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Horse Shoppin :) Bloodline help please
IowaCanChaser
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Posted 2015-05-04 8:19 PM
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I am so excited, I am going to a sale soon, and have been trying to find my next project horse. Based on bloodlines alone, which are your favorite. Looking for a barrel prospect, and just an all around performance horse. I may work with it for a couple years, and then sell it, so I want good bloodlines to help with the resale value. Please put them in order from best to worst. Thanks!

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smartlilwhiz

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pff+firewater+hustlr

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mr+dry+freckles

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/poco+jessie+dry+doc

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/buck+jet+smooth
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uno-dos-tres!
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2015-05-04 8:35 PM
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The second horse.
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IowaCanChaser
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2015-05-04 9:31 PM
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uno-dos-tres! - 2015-05-04 8:35 PM

The second horse.

He's my first choice too :)
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-04 9:38 PM
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I would have to see how they are built, really none of them ring my bell. Maybe the second one if put together right. 
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-05-04 9:43 PM
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Ill take a Whiz.
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Tn_Barrelracer
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2015-05-04 9:44 PM
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For barrels the second is the only one with "barrel" bloodlines
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Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-05-04 10:23 PM
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Of the choices you put out there, here is the order I would put them in from favorite to least favorite on bloodlines alone (on the list, for me 3 and 4 would be interchangeable depending on how I liked the horse and how he looked):
#1: 
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pff+firewater+hustlr
#2:http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/poco+jessie+dry+doc
#3: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smartlilwhiz
#4: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mr+dry+freckles
#5: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/buck+jet+smooth
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Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2015-05-04 10:39 PM
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My husband used to own Smart Lil Whiz. That is a colt who fell through the crack due to no fault of his own.We sold him as a just turning 2 , and ended up reposessing him winter of his 3 yr old year. He should have went to the snaffle bit futurity, he was that talented.  My husband still regrets selling that colt.
 I came back to add. I just typed his name into google and watched a video. Looks like they had the kids riding him and he came dull and unbroke but I dont doubt the talent he had, he was born with and is still there underneith it all.

 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-04 10:44 PM
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On the second one, Stallion... Perks Firewater Flit belongs to a board buddy on here. I cant remember her name right off..  Ok I was thinking hard but I think her name is Chelsea Tanner maybe, but I think she got married and living in OK now adays. I'm thinking her board name is Circle C, but I could be wrong 

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Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2015-05-05 5:56 AM
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My pick would be the first one. 
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Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2015-05-05 6:16 AM
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mtcanchazer - 2015-05-04 10:23 PM Of the choices you put out there, here is the order I would put them in from favorite to least favorite on bloodlines alone (on the list, for me 3 and 4 would be interchangeable depending on how I liked the horse and how he looked):

#1: 
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pff+firewater+hustlr

#2:http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/poco+jessie+dry+doc

#3: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smartlilwhiz

#4: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mr+dry+freckles

#5: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/buck+jet+smooth

this ^^^^^
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EqualRanch
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-05-05 7:10 AM
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I like the third one best, but I'm partial to the cow horse bloodlines. 

What sale are you going to? 
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2015-05-05 7:15 AM
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EqualRanch - 2015-05-05 7:10 AM I like the third one best, but I'm partial to the cow horse bloodlines. 



What sale are you going to? 

 http://www.houckhorsecompany.com/2015catalogspring.pdf
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-05-05 7:39 AM
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I love the pedigree of the first one Smartlilwhiz

ETA: the right number I was looking at the wrong post.

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lhighquality
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2015-05-05 7:43 AM
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1, 2 or 2, 1, those 2 are interchangeable
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Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-05-05 7:46 AM
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Itsme - 2015-05-04 9:43 PM Ill take a Whiz.

heck I second that. Can't go wrong with something that has hollywood dun it ON papers.....that's resale value right there 
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Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-05-05 8:12 AM
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To me in quality, #1 & #2 are the best, esp. if you are thinking resale. I'm not a huge fan of the bottom side of #2 but PFF is a solid barrel sire. The Hollywood Dun It on #1 had me jazzed but that one has a lot of nice foundation lines up close top and bottom. Honestly, even though I prefer running blood, that's probably the one I'd be taking home, Smartlilwhiz.

The rest of them, esp 3 & 5, meh.
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-05-05 8:23 AM
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#1 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pff+firewater+hustlr

#2 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smartlilwhiz

#3 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mr+dry+freckles

#4 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/poco+jessie+dry+doc

#5 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/buck+jet+smooth
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-05-05 8:33 AM
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 Those are my top 3 as well, based on pedigree.  I would look at the actual horses before ranking them tho.  The last 2, I wouldn't look at.  The one with Jessie James twice fairly close on the top side would make me run due the possibility of being a bucker.  LOL  
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2015-05-05 10:12 AM
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I agree with this 100%.
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2015-05-05 10:20 AM
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Treading on thin ice here. Here is the video of the PFF Firewater Hustlr.  It took alot to guide him outside but that can be fixed with training. However what I really didnt like about him the most is he's a trashy mover and paddles something terrible.
 
http://www.ehorsehotline.com/ClassifiedDetail.aspx?AdID=22442&user=499
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Longneck
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2015-05-05 10:24 AM
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I would go with the PFF because of the Future Fortunes incentives... that's gonna help with your resale and YOU if he's gets going nicely and you want to compete on him for yourself! 
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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-05-05 10:24 AM
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ThreeCorners - 2015-05-05 10:20 AM Treading on thin ice here. Here is the video of the PFF Firewater Hustlr.  It took alot to guide him outside but that can be fixed with training. However what I really didnt like about him the most is he's a trashy mover and paddles something terrible.

 
http://www.ehorsehotline.com/ClassifiedDetail.aspx?AdID=22442&user=499

 A lot of FWF horses have more knee and hock action than what I consider desirable, but they seem to clock anyway.
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-05-05 10:26 AM
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I know this is not what you asked, but quite honestly, I've been buying and selling horses for 40 years, and a sale like this is usually not the place to buy a prospect. I have not had very good luck with sale horses. Through the years I've found that they are usually at a sale for a reason (not always....but a lot of the time) and the really nice ones usually go for more than I want to pay and the mediocre ones often go for more than they would if sold other ways. I've had a lot better luck just buying from individuals because then I can ask all the questions I want, ride the horse if I want, and make a more informed decision. JMO

Edited to add: The only one I'd be interested in on bloodlines was the PFF horse, but after watching the video, he wouldn't be what I'd want unless I could get him REALLY cheap, and I doubt he'll go that cheap. He's just not broke enough for what I want to put on the barrels.....although I've owned a PFF and they ARE athletes. I don't like how badly he paddles, but Seabiscuit paddled, also, and look what he did. ;)


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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-05 10:29 AM
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ThreeCorners - 2015-05-05 10:20 AM Treading on thin ice here. Here is the video of the PFF Firewater Hustlr.  It took alot to guide him outside but that can be fixed with training. However what I really didnt like about him the most is he's a trashy mover and paddles something terrible.
 
http://www.ehorsehotline.com/ClassifiedDetail.aspx?AdID=22442&user=499
Holy wow, I would pass. See that's why I wont go just on blood lines I would have to see the horse how its put together and moves...  

Edited by Southtxponygirl 2015-05-05 10:35 AM
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Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2015-05-05 11:56 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-05 10:29 AM
ThreeCorners - 2015-05-05 10:20 AM Treading on thin ice here. Here is the video of the PFF Firewater Hustlr.  It took alot to guide him outside but that can be fixed with training. However what I really didnt like about him the most is he's a trashy mover and paddles something terrible.

 
http://www.ehorsehotline.com/ClassifiedDetail.aspx?AdID=22442&user=499
Holy wow, I would pass. See that's why I wont go just on blood lines I would have to see the horse how its put together and moves...  

Ya that's a perfect example of  "you can't ride the papers."  Wow that's bad.   
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-05-05 1:25 PM
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For those interested - many have pictures in the catalog.

http://www.houckhorsecompany.com/2015catalogspring.pdf
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Rodeo_cowgirl
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2015-05-05 2:22 PM
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It really depends on what stile of rider you are......I personally would go with #2 . #1 has to much Hollywood Dun it they look great and are almost always a nice color but from my expericne they lack heart. Pocos are imo hot headed and very sensitive . well worth it if you can get along with them
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Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-05-05 2:57 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2015-05-04 10:39 PM My husband used to own Smart Lil Whiz. That is a colt who fell through the crack due to no fault of his own.We sold him as a just turning 2 , and ended up reposessing him winter of his 3 yr old year. He should have went to the snaffle bit futurity, he was that talented.  My husband still regrets selling that colt.

 I came back to add. I just typed his name into google and watched a video. Looks like they had the kids riding him and he came dull and unbroke but I dont doubt the talent he had, he was born with and is still there underneith it all.


 

 He is the one I like the best, based on the papers.
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Posted 2015-05-05 3:30 PM
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Bottom to top. On pedigree alone there isn't enough speed on the bottom side to get past a high lope. Keep looking.
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Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-05-05 3:33 PM
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cow pie - 2015-05-05 3:30 PM Bottom to top. On pedigree alone there isn't enough speed on the bottom side to get past a high lope. Keep looking.

 I took it as she wanted one to run barrels plus other western events, so I guess it depends on what she's looking for most
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Posted 2015-05-05 4:01 PM
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Rodeo_cowgirl - 2015-05-05 2:22 PM It really depends on what stile of rider you are......I personally would go with #2 . #1 has to much Hollywood Dun it they look great and are almost always a nice color but from my expericne they lack heart. Pocos are imo hot headed and very sensitive . well worth it if you can get along with them

You seriously just described my gelding... LOL whats funny is I picked his papered name Poco Buggy ( little bit buggy ) before I was ever familiar with that line.. HA. 

 
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EqualRanch
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-05-05 4:53 PM
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stayceem - 2015-05-05 1:25 PM For those interested - many have pictures in the catalog. http://www.houckhorsecompany.com/2015catalogspring.pdf

I only saw one horse in the catalog that I have to have. Doesn't even have a picture.
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Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-05-05 5:07 PM
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Of these, I'd go #1. Not really a fan of PFF, especially with that bottom side. If it had a running bottom, I'd probably like it more, but PFF just doesn't sit high on my list.
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Posted 2015-05-05 10:25 PM
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I have a daughter of Dun It With A Whiz she is also double bred Poco Bueno on the bottom side. She is as wide as she is tall and a true athlete with grit. She was a solid 1D horse and could stand up on any ground. My parents raised some Poco Bueno bred horses and I used them for everything all the ones we had were very user friendly and I used them in every event you can think of. My mare is a bit of a nut but really think that came from the reining trainer she was with before.
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Wondering about a update. Did you go to this sale and how did it go? Did you buy anything?  
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IowaCanChaser
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2015-05-10 8:11 PM
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Ha! none of the ones listed turned out to be what we were looking for, ended up with two unregistered horses from a ranch in Montana!
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Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2015-05-11 7:17 AM
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ThreeCorners - 2015-05-05 10:20 AM Treading on thin ice here. Here is the video of the PFF Firewater Hustlr.  It took alot to guide him outside but that can be fixed with training. However what I really didnt like about him the most is he's a trashy mover and paddles something terrible.

 
http://www.ehorsehotline.com/ClassifiedDetail.aspx?AdID=22442&user=499

 I have to agree...I don't like the way he travels either.
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