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| I am so excited, I am going to a sale soon, and have been trying to find my next project horse. Based on bloodlines alone, which are your favorite. Looking for a barrel prospect, and just an all around performance horse. I may work with it for a couple years, and then sell it, so I want good bloodlines to help with the resale value. Please put them in order from best to worst. Thanks!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smartlilwhiz
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pff+firewater+hustlr
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mr+dry+freckles
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/poco+jessie+dry+doc
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/buck+jet+smooth |
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       Location: Bandera, TX | The second horse. |
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2015-05-04 8:35 PM
The second horse.
He's my first choice too :) |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would have to see how they are built, really none of them ring my bell. Maybe the second one if put together right. |
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| Ill take a Whiz. |
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| For barrels the second is the only one with "barrel" bloodlines |
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       Location: Montana | Of the choices you put out there, here is the order I would put them in from favorite to least favorite on bloodlines alone (on the list, for me 3 and 4 would be interchangeable depending on how I liked the horse and how he looked): #1: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pff+firewater+hustlr #2:http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/poco+jessie+dry+doc #3: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smartlilwhiz #4: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mr+dry+freckles #5: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/buck+jet+smooth |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | My husband used to own Smart Lil Whiz. That is a colt who fell through the crack due to no fault of his own.We sold him as a just turning 2 , and ended up reposessing him winter of his 3 yr old year. He should have went to the snaffle bit futurity, he was that talented. My husband still regrets selling that colt. I came back to add. I just typed his name into google and watched a video. Looks like they had the kids riding him and he came dull and unbroke but I dont doubt the talent he had, he was born with and is still there underneith it all.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | On the second one, Stallion... Perks Firewater Flit belongs to a board buddy on here. I cant remember her name right off.. Ok I was thinking hard but I think her name is Chelsea Tanner maybe, but I think she got married and living in OK now adays. I'm thinking her board name is Circle C, but I could be wrong 
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | My pick would be the first one. |
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this ^^^^^ |
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     Location: Texas | I like the third one best, but I'm partial to the cow horse bloodlines.
What sale are you going to? |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | EqualRanch - 2015-05-05 7:10 AM I like the third one best, but I'm partial to the cow horse bloodlines.
What sale are you going to?
http://www.houckhorsecompany.com/2015catalogspring.pdf |
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       Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | I love the pedigree of the first one Smartlilwhiz
ETA: the right number I was looking at the wrong post.
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     Location: SE KS | 1, 2 or 2, 1, those 2 are interchangeable |
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           Location: Kansas | Itsme - 2015-05-04 9:43 PM Ill take a Whiz.
heck I second that. Can't go wrong with something that has hollywood dun it ON papers.....that's resale value right there |
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | To me in quality, #1 & #2 are the best, esp. if you are thinking resale. I'm not a huge fan of the bottom side of #2 but PFF is a solid barrel sire. The Hollywood Dun It on #1 had me jazzed but that one has a lot of nice foundation lines up close top and bottom. Honestly, even though I prefer running blood, that's probably the one I'd be taking home, Smartlilwhiz.
The rest of them, esp 3 & 5, meh. |
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#1 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pff+firewater+hustlr
#2 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smartlilwhiz
#3 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mr+dry+freckles
#4 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/poco+jessie+dry+doc
#5 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/buck+jet+smooth |
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Those are my top 3 as well, based on pedigree. I would look at the actual horses before ranking them tho. The last 2, I wouldn't look at. The one with Jessie James twice fairly close on the top side would make me run due the possibility of being a bucker. LOL |
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I agree with this 100%. |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Treading on thin ice here. Here is the video of the PFF Firewater Hustlr. It took alot to guide him outside but that can be fixed with training. However what I really didnt like about him the most is he's a trashy mover and paddles something terrible. http://www.ehorsehotline.com/ClassifiedDetail.aspx?AdID=22442&user=499 |
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   Location: Oklahoma | I would go with the PFF because of the Future Fortunes incentives... that's gonna help with your resale and YOU if he's gets going nicely and you want to compete on him for yourself! |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ThreeCorners - 2015-05-05 10:20 AM Treading on thin ice here. Here is the video of the PFF Firewater Hustlr. It took alot to guide him outside but that can be fixed with training. However what I really didnt like about him the most is he's a trashy mover and paddles something terrible.
http://www.ehorsehotline.com/ClassifiedDetail.aspx?AdID=22442&user=499
A lot of FWF horses have more knee and hock action than what I consider desirable, but they seem to clock anyway. |
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        Location: Oklahoma | I know this is not what you asked, but quite honestly, I've been buying and selling horses for 40 years, and a sale like this is usually not the place to buy a prospect. I have not had very good luck with sale horses. Through the years I've found that they are usually at a sale for a reason (not always....but a lot of the time) and the really nice ones usually go for more than I want to pay and the mediocre ones often go for more than they would if sold other ways. I've had a lot better luck just buying from individuals because then I can ask all the questions I want, ride the horse if I want, and make a more informed decision. JMO
Edited to add: The only one I'd be interested in on bloodlines was the PFF horse, but after watching the video, he wouldn't be what I'd want unless I could get him REALLY cheap, and I doubt he'll go that cheap. He's just not broke enough for what I want to put on the barrels.....although I've owned a PFF and they ARE athletes. I don't like how badly he paddles, but Seabiscuit paddled, also, and look what he did. ;)
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | ThreeCorners - 2015-05-05 10:20 AM Treading on thin ice here. Here is the video of the PFF Firewater Hustlr. It took alot to guide him outside but that can be fixed with training. However what I really didnt like about him the most is he's a trashy mover and paddles something terrible. http://www.ehorsehotline.com/ClassifiedDetail.aspx?AdID=22442&user=499 Holy wow, I would pass. See that's why I wont go just on blood lines I would have to see the horse how its put together and moves...
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-05 10:29 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-05-05 10:20 AM Treading on thin ice here. Here is the video of the PFF Firewater Hustlr. It took alot to guide him outside but that can be fixed with training. However what I really didnt like about him the most is he's a trashy mover and paddles something terrible.
http://www.ehorsehotline.com/ClassifiedDetail.aspx?AdID=22442&user=499 Holy wow, I would pass. See that's why I wont go just on blood lines I would have to see the horse how its put together and moves...
Ya that's a perfect example of "you can't ride the papers." Wow that's bad. |
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| For those interested - many have pictures in the catalog.
http://www.houckhorsecompany.com/2015catalogspring.pdf
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  Location: home for the winter...what a dumb idea | It really depends on what stile of rider you are......I personally would go with #2 . #1 has to much Hollywood Dun it they look great and are almost always a nice color but from my expericne they lack heart. Pocos are imo hot headed and very sensitive . well worth it if you can get along with them |
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    Location: Midwest | ThreeCorners - 2015-05-04 10:39 PM My husband used to own Smart Lil Whiz. That is a colt who fell through the crack due to no fault of his own.We sold him as a just turning 2 , and ended up reposessing him winter of his 3 yr old year. He should have went to the snaffle bit futurity, he was that talented. My husband still regrets selling that colt.
I came back to add. I just typed his name into google and watched a video. Looks like they had the kids riding him and he came dull and unbroke but I dont doubt the talent he had, he was born with and is still there underneith it all.
He is the one I like the best, based on the papers. |
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     Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Bottom to top. On pedigree alone there isn't enough speed on the bottom side to get past a high lope. Keep looking. |
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    Location: Midwest | cow pie - 2015-05-05 3:30 PM Bottom to top. On pedigree alone there isn't enough speed on the bottom side to get past a high lope. Keep looking.
I took it as she wanted one to run barrels plus other western events, so I guess it depends on what she's looking for most |
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| Rodeo_cowgirl - 2015-05-05 2:22 PM It really depends on what stile of rider you are......I personally would go with #2 . #1 has to much Hollywood Dun it they look great and are almost always a nice color but from my expericne they lack heart. Pocos are imo hot headed and very sensitive . well worth it if you can get along with them
You seriously just described my gelding... LOL whats funny is I picked his papered name Poco Buggy ( little bit buggy ) before I was ever familiar with that line.. HA.
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I only saw one horse in the catalog that I have to have. Doesn't even have a picture. |
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| Of these, I'd go #1. Not really a fan of PFF, especially with that bottom side. If it had a running bottom, I'd probably like it more, but PFF just doesn't sit high on my list. |
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| I have a daughter of Dun It With A Whiz she is also double bred Poco Bueno on the bottom side. She is as wide as she is tall and a true athlete with grit. She was a solid 1D horse and could stand up on any ground. My parents raised some Poco Bueno bred horses and I used them for everything all the ones we had were very user friendly and I used them in every event you can think of. My mare is a bit of a nut but really think that came from the reining trainer she was with before. |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Wondering about a update. Did you go to this sale and how did it go? Did you buy anything? |
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| Ha! none of the ones listed turned out to be what we were looking for, ended up with two unregistered horses from a ranch in Montana!  |
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       Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | ThreeCorners - 2015-05-05 10:20 AM Treading on thin ice here. Here is the video of the PFF Firewater Hustlr. It took alot to guide him outside but that can be fixed with training. However what I really didnt like about him the most is he's a trashy mover and paddles something terrible.
http://www.ehorsehotline.com/ClassifiedDetail.aspx?AdID=22442&user=499
I have to agree...I don't like the way he travels either. |
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