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     Location: Woodstown, NJ | I got a Reinsman Stop & Turn hackamore with 6 1/4" shanks from a garage sale, never used, for five bucks. At that price, I grabbed it. A girl can't have enough bits. What can you tell me about this bit? Reinsman's catalog describes it as "severe." |
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The Resident Destroyer of Liberal Logic
   Location: PNW | I would do a search for it on Barrel Horse News, there was a really great article in the magazine a long while back. They are "severe" in the fact that they are probably misused VERY often. They are used on a particular style of horse, by a particular style of rider, for a very particular reason - none of which I know.
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        Location: on my horse | If I'm remembering correctly diann guinn (BB on here I can't remember her name, think it's dianeguinn) uses them a lot and is a great resource for explaining.
ETA: or maybe it was a fast stop 
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | redmansmyman11 - 2015-05-04 10:51 PM If I'm remembering correctly diann guinn (BB on here I can't remember her name, think it's dianeguinn ) uses them a lot and is a great resource for explaining. ETA: or maybe it was a fast stop  You are right its Diane guinn that uses the Stop N Turn.And very good at explaining how it works. 
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        Location: MD | The Stop n Turn can indeed be very severe if misused, as can any piece of headgear. If a horse is properly broke to it, a rider is properly educated and the hack is properly adjusted, it can be a very good piece of equipment that allows a rider a great amount of feel with very minimal interaction. Many horses and people who use an Easy Stop/Quick Stop/ Fast Stop will also use a Stop n Turn for some horses, although they are very different pieces of equipment. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | WrapSnap - 2015-05-04 11:15 PM The Stop n Turn can indeed be very severe if misused, as can any piece of headgear. If a horse is properly broke to it, a rider is properly educated and the hack is properly adjusted, it can be a very good piece of equipment that allows a rider a great amount of feel with very minimal interaction. Many horses and people who use an Easy Stop/Quick Stop/ Fast Stop will also use a Stop n Turn for some horses, although they are very different pieces of equipment.
Oh and Andy is really good at explaining to, LOL |
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    Location: NW. Florida | People confuse a Stop n Turn with a Quick Stop. What I've seen Diane's pictures is a Quick Stop. |
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| Carbon Copy - 2015-05-05 8:40 AM
People confuse a Stop n Turn with a Quick Stop. What I've seen Diane's pictures is a Quick Stop.
Stop N turn just doesn't have as much as a quick stop. Either way with these hacks you must be someone who really stays out of a horses way and lets them work around the turn. Not hanging on them for balance or trying to handle them during the turn. |
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    Location: 31 lengths farms | I prefer the Quick Stop. |
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | run n rate - 2015-05-05 12:17 PM I prefer the Quick Stop.
I second that. I don't have the horse I rode with it any more, but that dude was so fun to ride because he was so broke to the quick stop. Loved working cows with that big guy. |
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| stop n turn is like a jim warner hackamore in feel. i love them. nothing like a quick stop though. wear them low and loose, almost hanging. bar in the back should not touch the chin and nose should be loose fitting not tight
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 Having Smokin Bandits
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     Location: Woodstown, NJ | Thanks guys. I'm just going to put it in my box and if I think I ever need to use it on someone, I'll get WrapNSnap's help! |
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