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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | What kind of dog food does she feed? There have been so many issues lately with certain brands that it could be a factor. |
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Location: Memphis, TN | My first thought is a tick disease. There are a few different diseases caused by ticks that have these symptoms. |
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| barrelracin85 - 2015-05-07 12:16 PM
My first thought is a tick disease. There are a few different diseases caused by ticks that have these symptoms.
Anaplasmosis |
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| They feed the cheap stuff from the local coop. They just got home from the vet and they said he just has Hip Dysplasia, and put him on aspirin. Why would he go from being fine to not able to move in a day?He's has Hip Dysplasia his whole life. Just about makes me sick. :( |
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Location: North Dakota | Definitely check him for ticks RIGHT NOW, if there are any imbedded close to his spine, it could be causing his symptoms too "tick bite paralysis" almost immediate relief for the dog.
Could be liver/kidney issues, diabetes. They become so weak or toxic it takes too much effort to stand (think of an old person) animal diseases seem to sneak up on us. |
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| FlyingJT - 2015-05-07 12:19 PM
barrelracin85 - 2015-05-07 12:16 PM
My first thought is a tick disease. There are a few different diseases caused by ticks that have these symptoms.
Anaplasmosis
We picked off about 6 ticks a few days ago, I'll google those diseases! |
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Location: North Dakota | IowaCanChaser - 2015-05-07 12:23 PM They feed the cheap stuff from the local coop. They just got home from the vet and they said he just has Hip Dysplasia, and put him on aspirin. Why would he go from being fine to not able to move in a day?He's has Hip Dysplasia his whole life. Just about makes me sick. :(
****! Did they xray him? I think I'd get a different opinion, while I know aspirin 'Might" help, there are better things for arthritic dogs that "do" help. |
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| LMS - 2015-05-07 12:24 PM
IowaCanChaser - 2015-05-07 12:23 PM They feed the cheap stuff from the local coop. They just got home from the vet and they said he just has Hip Dysplasia, and put him on aspirin. Why would he go from being fine to not able to move in a day?He's has Hip Dysplasia his whole life. Just about makes me sick. :(
****! Did they xray him? I think I'd get a different opinion, while I know aspirin 'Might" help, there are better things for arthritic dogs that "do" help.
They don't want to spend the money, he's also on Glucosamine pills |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | IowaCanChaser - 2015-05-08 11:29 AM LMS - 2015-05-07 12:24 PM IowaCanChaser - 2015-05-07 12:23 PM They feed the cheap stuff from the local coop. They just got home from the vet and they said he just has Hip Dysplasia, and put him on aspirin. Why would he go from being fine to not able to move in a day?He's has Hip Dysplasia his whole life. Just about makes me sick. :( ****! Did they xray him? I think I'd get a different opinion, while I know aspirin 'Might" help, there are better things for arthritic dogs that "do" help. , he's also on Glucosamine pills
i will never understand this.....especially for an animal in distress.....
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Location: Kansas | This exact thing happened to my friend's Corgi here in eastern Kansas a couple of weeks ago. I went to the vet with her and the vet was stumped and just advised my friend to put her down. Very sad.
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| I had one do this turned out to be poisoning from antifreeze. Mine were going under neighbors tractor which leaked then licking off their paws. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | barrelracr131 - 2015-05-07 12:57 PM Did they deworm anything recently?
This was my first thought too or deworm horses that may have spit some out that the dogs may have eaten? Poor dogs :( |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-07 2:08 PM barrelracr131 - 2015-05-07 12:57 PM Did they deworm anything recently? This was my first thought too or deworm horses that may have spit some out that the dogs may have eaten? Poor dogs :(
My first thought as well. Are the pupils dialated? |
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Location: Where you need a paddle... Oregon! | Had this happen when our mini-aussie ate some poo from a day that I dewormed. It took me a lot of convincing to get the vet to consider that I was right and I had to send him documentation and information I got from the internet. He is a good large animal vet, but said he had never heard of this happening. |
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Location: MD | my first thought is antifreeze.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Sounds like he may have sliped some disks in his back, had a heeler that did this, after a few months of treatments I still had to but him down. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Not trying to be mean but I don't understand the owners "Not wanting to spend money" when the dog is clearly in distress....
I understand not having the money at all because i've been there before and it sucks. But not wanting to spend the money is just mean to the dog in my opinion...
I would be getting the dog more than just asprin.... Asprin isn't going to do much but make the owner feel better about not getting the dog a real pain medication.....
That's like breaking your femur and being told to just keep ice on it.....
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | There is a big difference and not wanting to spend money and not having the money to spend. I would find and call a Collie rescue and see if they would surrender the dog to them and they would get done what needed to be done. |
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Location: Ohio | I question any vet who prescribes aspirin to dogs who need long term relief from something like hip dysplasia as continued use can cause ulcers and kidney damage because their systems can't break it down properly. I would be getting a second opinion. |
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| I hope people will refrain from attacking OP about the money issue. She's here to get advice for dogs that do not belong to her, but her grandmother who is probably on a fixed income as most seniors are. If we focus on the money, we're going to sabotage an effort to get the dog some help.
Asprin in this case is like a cheap band aid. Obviously, this vet knows your gma isn't going to spend the money and so, he/she isn't going to waste writing a prescription or order xrays etc. See if you can get the dog to a collie rescue. One thing to look for if it the dog is able to control it's bowels etc. Sounds to me like both dogs ingested something. Good luck, I hope you are able to get the help that the pup needs. |
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Location: Florida.. | RidenFly - 2015-05-08 4:11 AM I hope people will refrain from attacking OP about the money issue. She's here to get advice for dogs that do not belong to her, but her grandmother who is probably on a fixed income as most seniors are. If we focus on the money, we're going to sabotage an effort to get the dog some help.
Asprin in this case is like a cheap band aid. Obviously, this vet knows your gma isn't going to spend the money and so, he/she isn't going to waste writing a prescription or order xrays etc. See if you can get the dog to a collie rescue. One thing to look for if it the dog is able to control it's bowels etc. Sounds to me like both dogs ingested something. Good luck, I hope you are able to get the help that the pup needs.
I agree.. in this case... and it does sound like hit by car or injested poison..
even the frogs we here can cause paralysis..
Ops trying to help and vet may be just trying to do what he can for the situation.. I have seen this before with elderly.. if dogs in pain Id euthanize him or take to a collie rescue.. there is help out there.. but I understand the situation as well..
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Location: Winging It in KY | Just a thought but some flea / tick collars or stuff you put on their backs can cause this. Some dogs have seizures and some just loose control of their bodies. Have seen this happen. Good luck with the dog. |
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Location: Arkansas | Had one do this that had eaten a dead mouse that was killed by rat poison.. He came out of it just fine once we got him to the vet. Vet had us give him Albion (for three days I believe?) and wormed him. He was good in two. It does look like hip dysplasia at FIRST.. but then they become lethargic and lose all muscle control. |
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Location: North Dakota | cuckleburr - 2015-05-08 8:16 AM Just a thought but some flea / tick collars or stuff you put on their backs can cause this. Some dogs have seizures and some just loose control of their bodies. Have seen this happen. Good luck with the dog.
YES! AND collies are usually a little more susceptible to that as well. Hope the dog is feeling better no matter what treatment plan you're following. AND I can totally understand the money side of this, I'm sorry if I ruffled feathers, that was not my intent. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Bibliafarm - 2015-05-08 7:58 AM
RidenFly - 2015-05-08 4:11 AM I hope people will refrain from attacking OP about the money issue. She's here to get advice for dogs that do not belong to her, but her grandmother who is probably on a fixed income as most seniors are. If we focus on the money, we're going to sabotage an effort to get the dog some help.
Asprin in this case is like a cheap band aid. Obviously, this vet knows your gma isn't going to spend the money and so, he/she isn't going to waste writing a prescription or order xrays etc. See if you can get the dog to a collie rescue. One thing to look for if it the dog is able to control it's bowels etc. Sounds to me like both dogs ingested something. Good luck, I hope you are able to get the help that the pup needs.
I agree.. in this case... and it does sound like hit by car or injested poison..
even the frogs we here can cause paralysis..
Ops trying to help and vet may be just trying to do what he can for the situation.. I have seen this before with elderly.. if dogs in pain Id euthanize him or take to a collie rescue.. there is help out there.. but I understand the situation as well..
Poison was my first thought as well... |
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He never threw up or had diarrhea, the vet explained that the damp weather caused a flare up with his joints. The pills seem to be helping a little bit, and he can almost get all the way uip. If you help him up, he can walk a little. Praying he will continue to get better. Must be a strange coincidence that he started getting bad a few days after the other one died. Thanks for all the help guys! |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Thanks for the update.
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Location: Arkansas | IowaCanChaser - 2015-05-08 7:45 PM
Update!
He never threw up or had diarrhea, the vet explained that the damp weather caused a flare up with his joints. The pills seem to be helping a little bit, and he can almost get all the way uip. If you help him up, he can walk a little. Praying he will continue to get better. Must be a strange coincidence that he started getting bad a few days after the other one died. Thanks for all the help guys!
Please keep us updated. Praying for the Collie and your grandma |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | IowaCanChaser - 2015-05-08 7:45 PM Update! He never threw up or had diarrhea, the vet explained that the damp weather caused a flare up with his joints. The pills seem to be helping a little bit, and he can almost get all the way uip. If you help him up, he can walk a little. Praying he will continue to get better. Must be a strange coincidence that he started getting bad a few days after the other one died. Thanks for all the help guys!
Prayers that he will get better so that he can get around and be a happy fella |
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Location: Florida | He may be depressed over losing his buddy to contribute to the problem. Humans can be paralyzed with depression, so can dogs. |
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Location: Central Arkansas | Ask the vet about Tramadol. It is a pain med that might work better than aspirin. We have an old dog on it. The vet can call in the prescription to the
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Kristy - 2015-05-09 2:43 AM
Ask the vet about Tramadol. It is a pain med that might work better than aspirin. We have an old dog on it. The vet can call in the prescription to the
pharmacy. It is not expensive and is actually cheaper at the pharmacy than at the vets.
I agree with this. This med made a tremendous improvement on my daughter's doxie. |
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Location: Arkansas | IowaCanChaser - 2015-05-08 7:45 PM
Update!
He never threw up or had diarrhea, the vet explained that the damp weather caused a flare up with his joints. The pills seem to be helping a little bit, and he can almost get all the way uip. If you help him up, he can walk a little. Praying he will continue to get better. Must be a strange coincidence that he started getting bad a few days after the other one died. Thanks for all the help guys!
How is he today? |
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | My mom is on social security and this is what her old sheltie is on for his arthritis pain. She gets the prescription at pharmacy and it saves her a lot of money. She also takes it herself for arthritis and always has her prescription as a back-up for him. That said I think they have to keep an eye on kidney or liver values if they take it regularly. |
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| my dog got like that and he had vestibular disease. He was so bad I thought he had a stroke. Could not walk. it is in the inner ear. He layed around and I took care of him to make a full recovery but it was very critical I think most people would have put him down the symptoms are so bad. Best of luck to her and maybe ask about vestibular. His eyes were spinning around in his head and he was dizzy. He threw up his food. Tell her to look at his eyes and see if they are spinning. |
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