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Location: Kansas | Too much line breeding? She's a perlino too......
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | Seems a bit excessive to me :/ normally crossing back that close up is only done once, not twice. The only good thing about it, is there are any flaws, they should be glaring at you. |
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Location: Kansas | kind of what I was thinking, waiting on pictures now. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | That's a lot of line breeding. I'd definitely want to take a look before moving, especially a perlino. What are your goals? |
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Location: Kansas | well the mare hasn't even been started LOL, so probably going to look past her. Lady was wanting a bay roan filly I have....but I like my roans breeding. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would be passing on this one to much going on there for me.. |
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Location: Desert Land | I like my family trees to have a few more branches on them. |
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| I love Zan Parr Bar but wow, too much going on for me! |
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Location: Kansas | FlyingJT - 2015-05-11 2:56 PM I love Zan Parr Bar but wow, too much going on for me!
agreed.
She wants this filly that I have....but I don't think I can part with her
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Location: Texas | I would usually agree with Whiteboy 100%, but in this instance I disagree. Too much and too close especially with that particular sire. It would also help, if she had been started or had 30+ days. I would pass. Lot more options, with better breeding, in the same price range. JMO |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | WOW! The inbreeding going on is insane. I like mine to be a little more diversed so I would personally pass. |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-05-11 2:58 PM
FlyingJT - 2015-05-11 2:56 PM I love Zan Parr Bar but wow, too much going on for me!
agreed.
She wants this filly that I have....but I don't think I can part with herhttp://www.allbreedpedigree.com/chuckers+quick+fox
I would definitely talk to someone that has more knowledge in Linebreeding. I'm not 100% sure what Zan Parr Bar passes down the most, as far as conformational issues, health, etc, so you may talk to someone that knows more about it and him. The thing with linebreeding is it brings out ailments in offspring that that particular line carries, doesn't cause them but displays them out in the offspring. |
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Location: Texas | I like the diversity in the second better than the fence post family tree of the first. A family tree needs to branch. The linebreeding may work, but that crosses over into inbreeding for me.  |
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Location: Kansas | haha I'm glad I'm not the only one....I pulled it up on allbreed once she sent me the name....i was like W....T....F?? lol |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | Still would like to see pictures though...when I look at the pedigree I picture a third eye for some reason. |
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Location: Texas | FlyingJT - 2015-05-11 3:27 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-05-11 2:58 PM FlyingJT - 2015-05-11 2:56 PM I love Zan Parr Bar but wow, too much going on for me! agreed.
She wants this filly that I have....but I don't think I can part with her
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/chuckers+quick+fox I would definitely talk to someone that has more knowledge in Linebreeding. I'm not 100% sure what Zan Parr Bar passes down the most, as far as conformational issues, health, etc, so you may talk to someone that knows more about it and him. The thing with linebreeding is it brings out ailments in offspring that that particular line carries, doesn't cause them but displays them out in the offspring.
I do agree with Flying, talk to someone who knows more about linebreeding than I do.. Lol
I have seen it work well for others, but they also had a different sire. Not saying anything is wrong with Zan Bar, but he isn't a sire a would take the chance on. Find out what some flaws are that show in the offspring and look at some colts who have been linebred using Zan Bar.
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| EqualRanch - 2015-05-11 3:59 PM
FlyingJT - 2015-05-11 3:27 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-05-11 2:58 PM FlyingJT - 2015-05-11 2:56 PM I love Zan Parr Bar but wow, too much going on for me! agreed.
She wants this filly that I have....but I don't think I can part with her
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/chuckers+quick+fox I would definitely talk to someone that has more knowledge in Linebreeding. I'm not 100% sure what Zan Parr Bar passes down the most, as far as conformational issues, health, etc, so you may talk to someone that knows more about it and him. The thing with linebreeding is it brings out ailments in offspring that that particular line carries, doesn't cause them but displays them out in the offspring.
I have seen it work well for others, but they also had a different sire. Not saying anything is wrong with Zan Bar, but he isn't a sire a would take the chance on. Find out what some flaws are that show in the offspring and look at some colts who have been linebred using Zan Bar.
You shouldn't tuck your tail and run, just do a little research.
If someone told me that she was conformationally correct, no health issues and sane.... I could only imagine the athlete she could be. Zan Parr Bar was an amazing athlete and he sired some great and talented horses too! |
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| I'm pretty sure he has sired more AQHA champions than any other horse even though died at age 13.
hall of fame write up http://aqha.com/Museum/Explore/Hall-of-Fame/Horses/Z/Zan-Parr-Bar.aspx
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Do you by chance have pics of both? I'd love to see them.
Too much line breeding going on but i'm curious what the Perlino looks like.
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | If she is comformationally correct, I would get her for a broodmare then outcross her on racing lines ( maybe a more line bred first down dash). Hybrid vigor should come out of that sort of cross. |
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Location: Kansas | My roan Chuckers Quick Fox. She's shedding off darker now. I still haven't gotten a picture of the mare LOL
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-05-12 3:52 PM My roan Chuckers Quick Fox. She's shedding off darker now. I still haven't gotten a picture of the mare LOL
Shes cute, now why would you want to trade her off? |
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Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-12 4:09 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-05-12 3:52 PM My roan Chuckers Quick Fox. She's shedding off darker now. I still haven't gotten a picture of the mare LOL Shes cute, now why would you want to trade her off?
I wasn't wanting too, I posted her on a roan group showing her off/asking if she would stay that roan...and a lady messaged me interested in her asking if I would be interested in trading her for the mare I posted. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-05-12 4:19 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-12 4:09 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-05-12 3:52 PM My roan Chuckers Quick Fox. She's shedding off darker now. I still haven't gotten a picture of the mare LOL Shes cute, now why would you want to trade her off?
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