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1D-2D with 6 months or less of hauling. HOW????
worktorodeo
Reg. Oct 2014
Posted 2015-05-14 1:01 PM
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I regularly see horses advertised as 1D-2D with 6 months' hauling or less. I'm no professional trainer, but I do like to train my own, and I have never had a horse that I'd call 1D-2D within a short period of time of hauling. My current horse has been hauling about a year and is 3D most anywhere and 2D sometimes. I think he has the potential to be 1D-2D/rodeo quality, but it's not happening overnight. I work full-time and have 2 kids with a busy youth rodeo schedule of their own, so that limits my ability to ride every day and enter consistently, but still, how do people get their horses to that point in short periods of time???? Am I missing something? I know there are exceptional horses out there who progress really quickly, but in all my years "tinkering", I've never come across one.
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mreklaw
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2015-05-14 1:05 PM
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Definitely can happen. May not be consistent but I have seen it.
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Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2015-05-14 1:08 PM
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CallMeSkidmark
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-05-14 1:09 PM
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I think there are a lot of people that push horses along too fast... so, while they may be clocking 1D-2D locally, their longevity at that level isn't guaranteed. In fact, I don't think I'd have any interest in a horse clocking those times after only 6 months on barrels. I absolutely believe there are those "freaks of nature" out there with tons of natural ability... but I'm a skeptic. I think it's a situation where I would have to truly KNOW the horse in order to believe that it's that talented. I'd rather have a horse that is solid, sound, and sane clocking a second off after 6 months, rather than a horse rushed along into the 1D/2D after 6 months.

But that's just me. I like a well rounded solid FUN horse. I don't want a horse that's going to fall apart after one season.

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Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2015-05-14 1:10 PM
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I've actually seen it happen a lot. Some horses it just comes natural to them. They aren't necessarily perfect, or consistently in the 1D or 2D, but there are a few people in this area who will start bringing a colt or futurity horse out and before I know it they're beating me lol
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-05-14 1:10 PM
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I had one..........only one, out of the tons I've riden.   He was a FREAK.  Came off the track and had been blown up as a rope horse.  Extremely light and kinda a run away but would hunt a barrel.  He immediately started clocking and was in the 1D or 2D unless he bled. 

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barrelbasher
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2015-05-14 1:33 PM
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I have one right now. He has NEVER been hauled before I bought him end of NOV. By the 4th time I enterd him he was in the 1d. Since then he has been consistantly 2d against RODEO horses. The girl that owned him and trained him did an amazing job. He is broke broke broke and is just getting used to the sights. I am not pushing him at all and he is having baby mistake but if he just has a smooth run he is going to be in the 2d against some nice horses. He is super smooth and has a long stride and makes it look effortless. I am looking forward to his future.

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CallMeSkidmark
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-05-14 1:34 PM
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I have no be right now. He has NEVER been hauled before I bought him end of NOV. By the 4th time I enterd him he was in the 1d. Since then he ha been consistantly 2d against RODEO horses. The girl that owned him and trained him did an amazing job. He is broke broke broke and is just getting used to the sight. I am not pushing him at all and he is having baby mistake but if he just has a smooth run he is going to be in the 2d against some nice horses. He is super smooth and has a long stride and makes it look effortless. I am looking forward to his future.

very exciting! I think the broker the horse, the more likely they can handle the speed.
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astreakinchic
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-05-14 1:37 PM
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If they are a good one usually it will come quick...this is the norm.

If it takes a year then I consider them not a good one and sale LOL Kidding but seriously if they aren't clocking after 6 months of hauling i'm going to sale to someone who doesn't play the futurity game.

Key word you said was hauling. Do you really mean just started?

I've seen just started being the case to and those types are wicked but hard to hold together.


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CarrieH77
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-05-14 1:39 PM
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The gal I have my 4yo with has many horses like this...but she doesn't aim for futurities they are usually older and are BROKE.  So soft in the rib cage it's sad my 4yo is more broke than my finished horse!  She does such a good job with them, she hold arena records, won big races and they usually clock low 2d/high 3d in first few runs and come on from there.  Plus her horses get exposed to a ton.  I'm kinda sad I have sell my gelding. LOL.  But because hers are so broke it doesn't take them long.  Most are off the track she has as well.   
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-05-14 1:44 PM
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I guess it depends on the situation. I could say my gelding is clocking .5 off against rodeo winners and has been hauled 6 months. That would be true, but he is 7, been roped off of a lot and used in the pasture. Not to mention I brought him on slow at home for about 2 years prior to entering rodeos. lol. I do have a tendancy to shy away from a horse I believe to be rushed because I question their ability to stay sound minded long term. Some can handle it though. I have always heard Pozzi pretty much takes them an runs with them. It works out for her lol.

 


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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-05-14 2:12 PM
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 Depends on the horse and how much they want to be a barrel horse. My daughters made was maybe exhibitioned 5 times. First 3 times she hit the 2D. After that it was the 1D and we started entering her. Within 2 years she was winning and placing at pro rodeos. She is just a natural, has always liked her job and has always wanted to be a barrel horse. I don't think horses like her are near as common as what people claim.
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SpaceCowboy
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2015-05-14 2:21 PM
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Not surprising especially if they are running in the same arena(s) every week. It doesn't take many runs on the same pattern and surroundings to improve dramatically. Something to think about when inquiring on a horse for sale, IMO. It can be a whole different world when you are talking about big shows, new arenas, outdoor pens, rodeos, etc.

I started one that was super broke and 8 years old several years ago. Patterned him for two months, hauled him to a winter series in Feb. Jackpot in the same arena every two weeks. He literally moved up a D every time and we were placing in the 1D in 5 runs. It was August before we won a rodeo check though, and the following March before I could say that he consistently won checks at all rodeos unless I screwed something up.
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-05-14 2:27 PM
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 I've had 3.  One started winning horseshows 6 weeks after I started him and won 10 in a row before winning his first rodeo--he was a team penning horse before I got him.  One was winning and placing in good sized jackpots 6 months after I started him even tho he spent 3 of those months recovering from a stifle injury--he worked cattle for a living before I got him.  One I spent a year at home getting him trained because he had no previous job and he ran in the bottom of the 1d the first time we entered and started placing from there.  And another that was hitting the 2d 9 months after starting her and literally 90% of her barrel training was done at jackpots a couple of times a month because it rained a lot that year.

They train faster if they're really broke before you start and having a previous career makes it easier too.  You start having delusions of grandeur about your training abilities if you start with the right horse.  LOL
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wa.cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-05-14 2:32 PM
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CallMeSkidmark - 2015-05-14 1:34 PM
barrelbasher - 2015-05-14 1:33 PM I have no be right now. He has NEVER been hauled before I bought him end of NOV. By the 4th time I enterd him he was in the 1d. Since then he ha been consistantly 2d against RODEO horses. The girl that owned him and trained him did an amazing job. He is broke broke broke and is just getting used to the sight. I am not pushing him at all and he is having baby mistake but if he just has a smooth run he is going to be in the 2d against some nice horses. He is super smooth and has a long stride and makes it look effortless. I am looking forward to his future.
very exciting! I think the broker the horse, the more likely they can handle the speed.

Or if they already learned to handle speed on the track. The fastest horse i ever trained had a great, long career on the track. She won the 3D on her first open run. Clocked in 2D next race... With no pushing... She never looked back. Wish i had 10 more like her. She is not all that broke! Just being honest lol
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-05-14 2:33 PM
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Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-14 2:27 PM  I've had 3.  One started winning horseshows 6 weeks after I started him and won 10 in a row before winning his first rodeo--he was a team penning horse before I got him.  One was winning and placing in good sized jackpots 6 months after I started him even tho he spent 3 of those months recovering from a stifle injury--he worked cattle for a living before I got him.  One I spent a year at home getting him trained because he had no previous job and he ran in the bottom of the 1d the first time we entered and started placing from there.  And another that was hitting the 2d 9 months after starting her and literally 90% of her barrel training was done at jackpots a couple of times a month because it rained a lot that year.



They train faster if they're really broke before you start and having a previous career makes it easier too.  You start having delusions of grandeur about your training abilities if you start with the right horse.  LOL
  

LOL - Isn't it the truth?    They are out there, better appreciate one if you get a chance to own them.
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CallMeSkidmark
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-05-14 2:37 PM
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barrelbasher - 2015-05-14 1:33 PM I have no be right now. He has NEVER been hauled before I bought him end of NOV. By the 4th time I enterd him he was in the 1d. Since then he ha been consistantly 2d against RODEO horses. The girl that owned him and trained him did an amazing job. He is broke broke broke and is just getting used to the sight. I am not pushing him at all and he is having baby mistake but if he just has a smooth run he is going to be in the 2d against some nice horses. He is super smooth and has a long stride and makes it look effortless. I am looking forward to his future.
very exciting! I think the broker the horse, the more likely they can handle the speed.

Or if they already learned to handle speed on the track. The fastest horse i ever trained had a great, long career on the track. She won the 3D on her first open run. Clocked in 2D next race... With no pushing... She never looked back. Wish i had 10 more like her. She is not all that broke! Just being honest lol

I have one that's ott as well, but I'd rather have one that is broke instead of one that knows how to run. It all comes down to personal preference on type I think. I can't muscle and don't like to muscle a horse around a turn. I like to use my legs and push them through the turn, so the ott horse had a hard time not trying to run out of leg contact. The broker he got, the easier he was to ride.

I've ridden a couple that all they knew were left, right, stop and go... and I ran them just fine. Clocked pretty well too, but I've found that if they get into a bind, I can't help them through it as easily as a horse with more of a handle on it.

And I'm a control freak... lol
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dream_chaser
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-05-14 2:37 PM
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 I believe it's possible, with the right rider and a horse with natural ability and a good training foundation.

I took my 5 yr old to his first jackpot Monday, with errors and not being pushed for speed he was a little over 2 seconds off....I believe with the natural talent he's showing it will be easy for him to clock 1D by fall...but see how it goes...fingers crossed!


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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-05-14 2:58 PM
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I think a lot of them are running 1D times at HOME before they are actually hauled/exhibitioned.
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rodeowithjoker
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-05-14 3:06 PM
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Clifford first saw the pattern mid-November 2013 and he was in the 2D on his 5th run ever (Jan. 2014), outran my rodeo horse on his 13th run (March 2014), clocked 1D at State NBHA (May 2014, 19th run) and won the 1D and a buckle at an added money race the end of May - his 25th run ever. At that point, he was capable of winning 1D & 2D money but he wasn't consistent yet. He got seasoned at rodeos that summer and was clocking well enough to place if I would have stopped pulling barrels over but we didn't start placing at rodeos until June 2014. He is definitely a freak who wants to be amazing.
If I were going to get one to that 1D/2D level in 6 months, I'd need a worked up arena at home to school them regularly.
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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-05-14 4:02 PM
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After six months of BARRELS, or six months of hauling? Those are two very different things.
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-05-14 4:56 PM
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My daughter had only ridden a 1d horse one time until she trained her own, green broke to squeaking into the 1d in 8 months. Now that we know her fading out of barrels is a "mare" issue they should be really solid this summer. Cant wait!
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crapshooter
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2015-05-14 5:14 PM
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Itsme - 2015-05-14 2:56 PM My daughter had only ridden a 1d horse one time until she trained her own, green broke to squeaking into the 1d in 8 months. Now that we know her fading out of barrels is a "mare" issue they should be really solid this summer. Cant wait!

Fading out of the barrels is a mare issue?  That's one of the most ridiculous things I've heard on the internet or IRL.  

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, I'd say that should be your motto from reading your posts. 


 
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-05-14 5:21 PM
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 The trainer we use has clocked in the 1D after just a few months of hauling and entering.   She is very careful though and does not hesitate to throttle back her runs if she feels anything that makes her think the horse is not handling the pressure.  
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crapshooter
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2015-05-14 5:23 PM
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Every good horse I've ever had was in the 1D within 6 months.   But I have been extremely spoiled with good horses.  Possibly I've been the blind squirrel myself.  I know the first couple were freaks of nature since I didn't have a clue. 
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Posted 2015-05-14 5:24 PM
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I might be in the Senior 1D on Saturday....there's only 3 of us that run....one's my boyfriend and he can easily be eliminated.....it will, technically, be my second day of barrel racing. Fingers crossed  
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-05-14 5:52 PM
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Itsme - 2015-05-14 2:56 PM My daughter had only ridden a 1d horse one time until she trained her own, green broke to squeaking into the 1d in 8 months. Now that we know her fading out of barrels is a "mare" issue they should be really solid this summer. Cant wait!

Fading out of the barrels is a mare issue?  That's one of the most ridiculous things I've heard on the internet or IRL.  

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, I'd say that should be your motto from reading your posts. 


 

ahhhh what?

Our horse gets sore ovaries and that causes her pain and she doesnt turn a barrel clean at speed.

And I do believe there is one nut on this thread...
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Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2015-05-14 5:58 PM
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Itsme - 2015-05-14 4:56 PM My daughter had only ridden a 1d horse one time until she trained her own, green broke to squeaking into the 1d in 8 months. Now that we know her fading out of barrels is a "mare" issue they should be really solid this summer. Cant wait!

 wow!! I cant wait to see that myself!!! Do you have some videos you can share?
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crapshooter
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2015-05-14 6:02 PM
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Itsme - 2015-05-14 3:52 PM
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Itsme - 2015-05-14 2:56 PM My daughter had only ridden a 1d horse one time until she trained her own, green broke to squeaking into the 1d in 8 months. Now that we know her fading out of barrels is a "mare" issue they should be really solid this summer. Cant wait!
Fading out of the barrels is a mare issue?  That's one of the most ridiculous things I've heard on the internet or IRL.  



Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, I'd say that should be your motto from reading your posts. 




 
ahhhh what? Our horse gets sore ovaries and that causes her pain and she doesnt turn a barrel clean at speed. And I do believe there is one nut on this thread...

I thought you meant she was fading out because she was a mare, I didn't catch the reference to ovary pain. 

I'd like to see the videos also.  I love seeing naturally talented horses. 
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Itsme
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Posted 2015-05-14 6:27 PM
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message me your phone number, ive sent a couple vids to other members,
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Itsme
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Posted 2015-05-14 6:31 PM
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And i lied, it was 10 months...
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-14 6:32 PM
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Itsme - 2015-05-14 6:27 PM message me your phone number, ive sent a couple vids to other members,

Why dont you just put a video up here so we all can see this awesome mare  
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Posted 2015-05-14 6:33 PM
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I'm old, I don't have a smartphone, only a dumb one. 

I trained my first horse by hitting it on the shoulder with a whip to make her turn and I won money at WPRA rodeos on her.  So those horses exist.   
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-14 6:32 PM

Itsme - 2015-05-14 6:27 PM message me your phone number, ive sent a couple vids to other members,

Why dont you just put a video up here so we all can see this awesome mare  

I will if she wins one...
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Posted 2015-05-14 6:57 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-14 6:32 PM
Itsme - 2015-05-14 6:27 PM message me your phone number, ive sent a couple vids to other members,
Why dont you just put a video up here so we all can see this awesome mare  
I will if she wins one...

All righty  
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Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2015-05-14 6:59 PM
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Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-14 2:27 PM

 I've had 3.  One started winning horseshows 6 weeks after I started him and won 10 in a row before winning his first rodeo--he was a team penning horse before I got him.  One was winning and placing in good sized jackpots 6 months after I started him even tho he spent 3 of those months recovering from a stifle injury--he worked cattle for a living before I got him.  One I spent a year at home getting him trained because he had no previous job and he ran in the bottom of the 1d the first time we entered and started placing from there.  And another that was hitting the 2d 9 months after starting her and literally 90% of her barrel training was done at jackpots a couple of times a month because it rained a lot that year.

They train faster if they're really broke before you start and having a previous career makes it easier too.  You start having delusions of grandeur about your training abilities if you start with the right horse.  LOL

Completely agree that a really nice well broke horse with some "life" experience can hit the winner's circle quickly. Years ago I started an 8 year old on barrels after he had been a hunter/jumper and a rope horse -- he took to it immediately and was winning practically overnight. He was a sweet ride and if you just showed him what you wanted, he did it. Happily. Miss him.
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Posted 2015-05-14 8:19 PM
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I have on that was running in the 1-D with only 10 outs. it is possible once you understand the fundamentals and have a really broke horse that makes the difference in all the world.
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Posted 2015-05-14 10:59 PM
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The paint in my avatar fell just out of the money in the 2D the second time he was run in an open barrel race. (by my trainer) His very first run in any open was with me riding him at the Josey Reunion. He had not been exhibitioned very many times before that. Just have an exceptional trainer and an exceptional horse.
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Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-14 2:27 PM  I've had 3.  One started winning horseshows 6 weeks after I started him and won 10 in a row before winning his first rodeo--he was a team penning horse before I got him.  One was winning and placing in good sized jackpots 6 months after I started him even tho he spent 3 of those months recovering from a stifle injury--he worked cattle for a living before I got him.  One I spent a year at home getting him trained because he had no previous job and he ran in the bottom of the 1d the first time we entered and started placing from there.  And another that was hitting the 2d 9 months after starting her and literally 90% of her barrel training was done at jackpots a couple of times a month because it rained a lot that year.



They train faster if they're really broke before you start and having a previous career makes it easier too.  You start having delusions of grandeur about your training abilities if you start with the right horse.  LOL

 THIS for sure.  The horse in my avatar was on barrels for 30 days before I took him to an ARA/IPRA rodeo.  This was his first time EVER down an allyway--not even an exhibition anywhere.  He won a 3rd.  The first jackpot I took him to we placed in the 1D.  However, he was 5 when I started him, REALLY broke, and had been hauled as a team penning horse.

It DOES happen--sure wish it would happen to me again, lol.

 
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rodeochick382 - 2015-05-15 8:42 AM

Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-14 2:27 PM  I've had 3.  One started winning horseshows 6 weeks after I started him and won 10 in a row before winning his first rodeo--he was a team penning horse before I got him.  One was winning and placing in good sized jackpots 6 months after I started him even tho he spent 3 of those months recovering from a stifle injury--he worked cattle for a living before I got him.  One I spent a year at home getting him trained because he had no previous job and he ran in the bottom of the 1d the first time we entered and started placing from there.  And another that was hitting the 2d 9 months after starting her and literally 90% of her barrel training was done at jackpots a couple of times a month because it rained a lot that year.



They train faster if they're really broke before you start and having a previous career makes it easier too.  You start having delusions of grandeur about your training abilities if you start with the right horse.  LOL

 THIS for sure.  The horse in my avatar was on barrels for 30 days before I took him to an ARA/IPRA rodeo.  This was his first time EVER down an allyway--not even an exhibition anywhere.  He won a 3rd.  The first jackpot I took him to we placed in the 1D.  However, he was 5 when I started him, REALLY broke, and had been hauled as a team penning horse.

It DOES happen--sure wish it would happen to me again, lol.

 

For real, chicky!
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My 5 yo outran Kellies Chick at Denton over the winter in the first 30 days of hauling.  Granted both he and she hit barrels but i'm still gonna brag about it!  LOL  He's clocked in the 1D or top of the 2D at every big show he's been to thus far and was sick the majority of the time.  In all honesty this colt is a freak and can do things physically most horses can't.  I can't take credit for any special training, in fact I took more shortcuts with him than I have any other horse i've started before.  Then I had to swallow my pride and send him out to Gunnar Enlow to season when he tried to buck me off at a dead run from the third barrel because it scared the bejeebers out of me even though I managed to cover him.  LOL  He's by far the most talented horse i've ever seen naturally.  I just hope I do him justice (aka don't fall off) when this weather clears up! 
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I wish I had a 1d horse.

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arion - 2015-05-15 11:21 AM I wish I had a 1d horse.
Borrow one................................. from Jennifer

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3canstorun - 2015-05-15 10:22 AM
arion - 2015-05-15 11:21 AM I wish I had a 1d horse.
Borrow one................................. from Jennifer

Truth.....I'll be happy to loan you mine :
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arion - 2015-05-15 10:26 AM who is Jennifer?

Your Momma. 
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I've got one like that.. Had her 4 days and was in the 2d. Had her a month and won a jackpot, and was 4th in another. Weekend later was 4th in the 1d average.. And I've yet to ask to her to run, she is just coasting... (mind you we are talking 75 horses, not 300+).
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arion - 2015-05-15 10:21 AM I wish I had a 1d horse.

 Me too. Mine is a 1d2d3d4d horse, which is very exciting just because you never know which horse you're riding that day until you go down the alley.  I prefer boring horses. 
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It's very possible, and I've had several through the years. The hardest thing anyone will ever do is KEEP a horse at that level. A lot of talented horses can do it in a short while, but if they're not maintained, or have a savvy rider, they will develop issues which will impact their times....also, what rider is riding the horse makes a big difference. I have 3 at the house that I regularly ride 3D/sometimes 2D, sometimes 1D/sometimes 4D. lol I can put my younger, no fear, aggressive jockey on them, though, and she'll clock a full second faster than I do on the same horse, same pattern....also, where they're running 1D and who they're running against is a huge factor as well. If all the futurity horses show up right before Ft. Smith (like last night), a sometimes 1D/2D horse might be 3D/4D. Remember, it's just a half second....that's a half blink....I think we, as barrel racers forget that one or two missteps or a stumble can make the difference in a D (or two). Take everything you read in ads with a grain of salt and evaluate the horse for what YOU think you can do with it.....that's my motto. ;)
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It IS very possible! Will never happen at my house though as I like to take a good, long 5-10 years to season mine! LOL
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dianeguinn - 2015-05-15 10:53 AM It's very possible, and I've had several through the years. The hardest thing anyone will ever do is KEEP a horse at that level. A lot of talented horses can do it in a short while, but if they're not maintained, or have a savvy rider, they will develop issues which will impact their times....also, what rider is riding the horse makes a big difference. I have 3 at the house that I regularly ride 3D/sometimes 2D, sometimes 1D/sometimes 4D. lol I can put my younger, no fear, aggressive jockey on them, though, and she'll clock a full second faster than I do on the same horse, same pattern....also, where they're running 1D and who they're running against is a huge factor as well. If all the futurity horses show up right before Ft. Smith (like last night), a sometimes 1D/2D horse might be 3D/4D. Remember, it's just a half second....that's a half blink....I think we, as barrel racers forget that one or two missteps or a stumble can make the difference in a D (or two). Take everything you read in ads with a grain of salt and evaluate the horse for what YOU think you can do with it.....that's my motto. ;)

There's a lot of truth in those sentences. Hence my "up & down" process with Clifford. It seems that just when he would start to figure it out, something would happen and we'd have to back off the speed, do more slow work, go to the vet, etc. I have spent several hundred dollars finding out that I had a training issue not a pain issue with him, but I slept well at night knowing I wasn't tuning and or running a sore horse.
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My current mare did this. The hear of her 5 year old year I was patterning her and she was trotting and SLOW loping. I was having soundness issues due to saddle fit. She was patterned for 2-3 months. Her 6 year old year I had a saddle that fit her and ran at a large local race(300 entries) with tough 1D girls that hit the 1D pretty much where ever they go and I won the 4D. 5 Weeks later(and 4-5 runs later) I was 13th out of 300 entries and they placed the top 8. My mare is also well broke and has a good handle on her. So yes I would say it is possible to progress rapidly into the 1D-2D.
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