|
|
What Name?
Posts: 1994
   
| ?? I'm really wanting to start some activities with bug, but aside from the occasional very low key trail competition, I'm clueless of the rest of the beginner entry world. I thought maybe giving him a go at poles. I want to try him at a bunch of different things. Nothing I'll have to"send him to a trainer" for. Just fun stuff to do and grow together. Low key and low cost. My biggest issue. No horse family, and no real close horse friends. So I'm clueless where to look, regulations, entry fee standards, blah blah blah. Just simply clueless. Lol ideas, tips any of the above appreciated. :D | |
| | |
Extreme Veteran
Posts: 550
| Our local saddle clubs have fun shows. I think I'm going to take mine to some of those. They have walk/trot classes, GAYP, and speed events.
I figure the walk/trot & GAYP will be a good way to get her used to going to shows, but without much pressure. The fees are usually $4-$7 a class, or a set price for all day, so about the cost of an exhibition to do one, a little more than the cost of a run to do unlimited. | |
| | |
 Elite Veteran
Posts: 713
Location: ND | I would go to a saddle club or family rodeo.. they usually have things like keyhole, poles, barrels, etc. and the entry fees are usually really cheap, like $5 per event around here. | |
| | |
 Serious Snap Trapper
Posts: 4275
Location: In The Snow, AZ | I'm taking my greener gelding to the local gymkhanas. He's getting out there, being in the commotion. Horses and people everywhere. Loud intercom. Flags. Kids. People bring goats and cows, dogs, etc. And then a friendly competition at that. It's great exposure. | |
| | |
The Advice Guru
Posts: 6419
| Are you wanting to futurity when your horse is of age? | |
| | |
What Name?
Posts: 1994
| cheryl makofka - 2015-05-16 11:28 AM Are you wanting to futurity when your horse is of age?
yea. But I'm not introducing him to barrels until he's 4. I'm using this year to build a good foundation with everything else. He's going to be my all around first and foremost. So far no saddle clubs have responded to any inquiries I've made. =/ | |
| | |
 Regular
Posts: 55
Location: Middle TN | americanpride08 - 2015-05-16 4:36 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-05-16 11:28 AM Are you wanting to futurity when your horse is of age?
yea. But I'm not introducing him to barrels until he's 4. I'm using this year to build a good foundation with everything else. He's going to be my all around first and foremost. So far no saddle clubs have responded to any inquiries I've made. =/
Girl, you need to head north 50-100 miles and go with me as I am re-entering the horse world this year (: There's tons of saddle clubs and rodeos in this area, plus lots of trails.. enough to keep us occupied as much as we'd ever want! The saddle clubs you just show up with clean coggins and maybe 20 bucks and your in for a whole night of fun from halter classes to western pleasure, to ranch classes, walk trot, and speed events + some fun games on some occasions (: | |
| | |
What Name?
Posts: 1994
| lookyheremac - 2015-05-16 5:50 PM americanpride08 - 2015-05-16 4:36 PM cheryl makofka - 2015-05-16 11:28 AM Are you wanting to futurity when your horse is of age? yea. But I'm not introducing him to barrels until he's 4. I'm using this year to build a good foundation with everything else. He's going to be my all around first and foremost. So far no saddle clubs have responded to any inquiries I've made. =/ Girl, you need to head north 50-100 miles and go with me as I am re-entering the horse world this year (: There's tons of saddle clubs and rodeos in this area, plus lots of trails.. enough to keep us occupied as much as we'd ever want! The saddle clubs you just show up with clean coggins and maybe 20 bucks and your in for a whole night of fun from halter classes to western pleasure, to ranch classes, walk trot, and speed events + some fun games on some occasions (:
I would def do it though. I know with the new baby things are a bit crazy for you! ha ha
Edited by americanpride08 2015-05-16 9:53 PM
| |
| | |
The Advice Guru
Posts: 6419
| americanpride08 - 2015-05-16 4:36 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-05-16 11:28 AM Are you wanting to futurity when your horse is of age?
yea. But I'm not introducing him to barrels until he's 4. I'm using this year to build a good foundation with everything else. He's going to be my all around first and foremost. So far no saddle clubs have responded to any inquiries I've made. =/
Just incase you don't know
You cannot compete in any barrel racing till the December before your competition year.
Competition means any chance of acquiring, points, prizes or cash, so novice classes, only exhibition | |
| | |
What Name?
Posts: 1994
| So If I want to compete with him next year then I have to start this December? | |
| | |
Regular
Posts: 55
Location: Middle TN | americanpride08 - 2015-05-16 9:50 PM
lookyheremac - 2015-05-16 5:50 PM americanpride08 - 2015-05-16 4:36 PM cheryl makofka - 2015-05-16 11:28 AM Are you wanting to futurity when your horse is of age? yea. But I'm not introducing him to barrels until he's 4. I'm using this year to build a good foundation with everything else. He's going to be my all around first and foremost. So far no saddle clubs have responded to any inquiries I've made. =/ Girl, you need to head north 50-100 miles and go with me as I am re-entering the horse world this year (: There's tons of saddle clubs and rodeos in this area, plus lots of trails.. enough to keep us occupied as much as we'd ever want! The saddle clubs you just show up with clean coggins and maybe 20 bucks and your in for a whole night of fun from halter classes to western pleasure, to ranch classes, walk trot, and speed events + some fun games on some occasions (:
I would def do it though. I know with the new baby things are a bit crazy for you! ha ha
I know what you mean on the trailer issue.. I sold BOTH of mine. Idk what I was thinking :( I know plenty of people that have them but I hate asking! If I had easier access to one I'd totally be down there riding with you! I think your little guy has tons of potential and I can't wait to see all that you and him accomplish!!! | |
| | |
The Advice Guru
Posts: 6419
| americanpride08 - 2015-05-17 7:16 AM
So If I want to compete with him next year then I have to start this December?
You don't HAVE to start, but don't start any sooner or your horse will be in eligible. | |
| | |
 Take a Picture
Posts: 12841
| cheryl makofka - 2015-05-17 9:18 AM
americanpride08 - 2015-05-17 7:16 AM
So If I want to compete with him next year then I have to start this December?
You don't HAVE to start, but don't start any sooner or your horse will be in eligible.
If you want to futurity your horse next year, it better be winning the local 1D iwhen you enter in December. That is what it is going to take to be competitive.
Edited by streakysox 2015-05-17 4:33 PM
| |
| | |
Expert
Posts: 1561
| streakysox - 2015-05-17 4:31 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-05-17 9:18 AM
americanpride08 - 2015-05-17 7:16 AM
So If I want to compete with him next year then I have to start this December?
You don't HAVE to start, but don't start any sooner or your horse will be in eligible.
If you want to futurity your horse next year, it better be winning the local 1D iwhen you enter in December. That is what it is going to take to be competitive.
I hate this talk...Why does "local 1d" matter?
They just need to be competitive against contenders PERIOD. | |
| | |
 Total Germophobe
Posts: 6443
Location: Montana | I'd start with play days/omoksees. I hope to take mine to some this year for fun.  | |
| | |
Take a Picture
Posts: 12841
| I go to the little local riding club and run exhibitions in barrels and poles so I don't interfere with the people who are accumulating points for awards. It is close and is cheap. | |
| | |
Take a Picture
Posts: 12841
| Itsme - 2015-05-17 4:39 PM
streakysox - 2015-05-17 4:31 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-05-17 9:18 AM
americanpride08 - 2015-05-17 7:16 AM
So If I want to compete with him next year then I have to start this December?
You don't HAVE to start, but don't start any sooner or your horse will be in eligible.
If you want to futurity your horse next year, it better be winning the local 1D iwhen you enter in December. That is what it is going to take to be competitive.
I hate this talk...Why does "local 1d" matter?
They just need to be competitive against contenders PERIOD.
Well, you need something to judge how well your horse is doing. I am used to running against some of the toughest competition there is Futurity trainers who are winning everywhere like the futurity at the BBR. One friend that has placed in every futurity she has entered and she is not a professional trainer. One friend ran the fastest time at the Josey Reunion out of 880 run. She live here. The little girl who was second at Jr World this year, competes against us regularly. Josey's Jr World draws the VERY best from all over the US and Canada as does the Reunion. One friend rode the World Champion Paint Barrel Horse around here til she sold him. What I am saying is judge how you are doing against the people you run against locally. If you are running against people who hardly get out of a high lope, you better be beating them by a bunch. If you run against the competition that we normally have and can CONSISTENTLY run with them or even better beat them then your horse is ready to go to a futurity. Futurities are NOT cheap to enter. All the ones that I have checked out are $600+. The way I look at it, there is not much point in just making a contribution.
Use the local competition as a guideline! That is what I am talking about. And by the way, I have a futurity horse and she better be running comparable 1D times in exhibitions by the end of September. First payments are due Oct 1. | |
| | |
 Veteran
Posts: 148
| Find some local fun shows. Or saddle clubs | |
| | |
Expert
Posts: 1561
| streakysox - 2015-05-17 8:52 PM
Itsme - 2015-05-17 4:39 PM
streakysox - 2015-05-17 4:31 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-05-17 9:18 AM
americanpride08 - 2015-05-17 7:16 AM
So If I want to compete with him next year then I have to start this December?
You don't HAVE to start, but don't start any sooner or your horse will be in eligible.
If you want to futurity your horse next year, it better be winning the local 1D iwhen you enter in December. That is what it is going to take to be competitive.
I hate this talk...Why does "local 1d" matter?
They just need to be competitive against contenders PERIOD.
Well, you need something to judge how well your horse is doing. I am used to running against some of the toughest competition there is Futurity trainers who are winning everywhere like the futurity at the BBR. One friend that has placed in every futurity she has entered and she is not a professional trainer. One friend ran the fastest time at the Josey Reunion out of 880 run. She live here. The little girl who was second at Jr World this year, competes against us regularly. Josey's Jr World draws the VERY best from all over the US and Canada as does the Reunion. One friend rode the World Champion Paint Barrel Horse around here til she sold him. What I am saying is judge how you are doing against the people you run against locally. If you are running against people who hardly get out of a high lope, you better be beating them by a bunch. If you run against the competition that we normally have and can CONSISTENTLY run with them or even better beat them then your horse is ready to go to a futurity. Futurities are NOT cheap to enter. All the ones that I have checked out are $600+. The way I look at it, there is not much point in just making a contribution.
Use the local competition as a guideline! That is what I am talking about. And by the way, I have a futurity horse and she better be running comparable 1D times in exhibitions by the end of September. First payments are due Oct 1.
Exactly, so local or not you have to clock against the contenders.
People are always using "super shows" as a reason to dismiss someones "local" run or to prop themselves up when they clock 3d.
"I clocked 3d, but it was at a super show." What they mean..."I wouold have won a barrel race if it we were in the midwest."
"Oh really, you won a race with 100 riders?" What they mean..."You would have been 3d at a super show."
Tough horses and riders come from EVERYWHERE!
Sarah McDonald -GA
Laughlin,Loflin,Yates,Lord-CO
Anzik-MT?
Lockhart-SD
Hunter-UT
Bass-FL
The kid that won BBR Choust?-LA
Kruse-WY
We ALL know what tough horses run in our pens.
| |
| | |
  Twin Sister to Queen Boobie
Posts: 13315
Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Be careful of which open shows you go to, especially in TN. Some shows have a high number of gaited horses and they are flat out dangerous to ride around. Then some of the barrel racers can be just as bad too just because they don't know any better. You want a good experience with your young horse. A show with several Ranch & Western Pleasure classes is your best bet.
I start out with halter, showmanship and In-hand trail. Then I show walk/jog ranch and or Hunter, trail, horsemanship to get them going a little more solid under saddle. If I think they can handle it, I'll take them to an Extreme Cowboy Race, cattle sorting, ranch clinic, toppings. I show in anything and everything to get them solid and then haul to a barrel show and let them sit. Each environment offers something different to get them seasoned. If they're hauled to all the other stuff, then the barrels come easy. They focus a little better I think.
Edited by Fairweather 2015-05-18 3:06 PM
| |
| | |
 Expert
Posts: 3782
Location: Gainesville, TX | Find some play days to go to. They tend to have tons of fun things to do. BUT if you have any hope of competing in a futurity DO NOT COMPETE IN THE BARRELS. Not until December. Period.
You can do time only and exhibitions. But absolutely no competition for money, awards, trophies, etc.
When the one girl said you should running at the top of the 1D, you need to think about that as meaning you are running a 1D time NOT ACTUALLY COMPETING IN THE 1D.
If you compete before December in the barrels your horse will not be allowed to run in any of the futurities.
He can compete in poles, roping, trail, etc.
But if you have any real solid futurity plans, don't screw them up by jumping the gun in the barrels. :) | |
| | |
What Name?
Posts: 1994
| oija - 2015-05-18 3:38 PM
Find some play days to go to. They tend to have tons of fun things to do. BUT if you have any hope of competing in a futurity DO NOT COMPETE IN THE BARRELS. Not until December. Period.
You can do time only and exhibitions. But absolutely no competition for money, awards, trophies, etc.
When the one girl said you should running at the top of the 1D, you need to think about that as meaning you are running a 1D time NOT ACTUALLY COMPETING IN THE 1D.
If you compete before December in the barrels your horse will not be allowed to run in any of the futurities.
He can compete in poles, roping, trail, etc.
But if you have any real solid futurity plans, don't screw them up by jumping the gun in the barrels. :)
I have actually misinterpreted the use of this word. Since I've never ran barrels except goofing off with friends. I thought she meant as i planned on running him in barrels period. Next year I plan on doing just timed events, local stuff, very small barrel wise. Larger shows doing other things to get him set up in the correct atmosphere and still staying relaxed.
This year I dont even want to compete compete but just get into it. I have NO rodeo background. I come from a family that doesnt no jack about horses. I would like to get into it with a few ppl locally so I can emerse myself in 'the rodeo world' =P | |
| | |
Expert
Posts: 3782
Location: Gainesville, TX | americanpride08 - 2015-05-18 4:04 PM
oija - 2015-05-18 3:38 PM
Find some play days to go to. They tend to have tons of fun things to do. BUT if you have any hope of competing in a futurity DO NOT COMPETE IN THE BARRELS. Not until December. Period.
You can do time only and exhibitions. But absolutely no competition for money, awards, trophies, etc.
When the one girl said you should running at the top of the 1D, you need to think about that as meaning you are running a 1D time NOT ACTUALLY COMPETING IN THE 1D.
If you compete before December in the barrels your horse will not be allowed to run in any of the futurities.
He can compete in poles, roping, trail, etc.
But if you have any real solid futurity plans, don't screw them up by jumping the gun in the barrels. :)
I have actually misinterpreted the use of this word. Since I've never ran barrels except goofing off with friends. I thought she meant as i planned on running him in barrels period. Next year I plan on doing just timed events, local stuff, very small barrel wise. Larger shows doing other things to get him set up in the correct atmosphere and still staying relaxed.
This year I dont even want to compete compete but just get into it. I have NO rodeo background. I come from a family that doesnt no jack about horses. I would like to get into it with a few ppl locally so I can emerse myself in 'the rodeo world' =P
So you misunderstood the use of the word 'futurity' as being just any competition? It's a very specific kind of competition. Check out the BFA.
Running in futurities is expensive but there are some big payouts, especially if you are enrolled in incentives.
http://www.bfaworld.com/
Even if you do not feel like competing in these with your boy, it always helps to educate yourself on the different kind of competitions. I'm going to run my 3 year old in some 5 year old futurities so she won't see an actual competition, only exhibitions, until December before her 5 year old year.
When it comes to gaming and barrel racing there are several different types: juveniles (for 3 year olds), futurities (for 4 and some for 5 year olds), derbies (for 6-7 year olds), jackpots (usually your small local weekend stuff), supershows (the big payout, big attendance ones that last a week or more), playdays/gymkhanas (usually small stakes with ribbons and not paychecks, family oriented and multi-event), breed shows (like AQHA), and rodeos.
Some horses are good for one or more of the above, some are just jackpot horses. Some do well at rodeos. It's always good to know all your options.
ETA: You also have different divisions outside of just the different types. You can be in an amateur class, a seniors class (usually over 45, 55, or 65), a youth class, etc. It can get complicated quick. The toughest is usually in the Open classes at super shows.
Edited by oija 2015-05-18 4:51 PM
| |
| | |
What Name?
Posts: 1994
| oija - 2015-05-18 4:49 PM
americanpride08 - 2015-05-18 4:04 PM
oija - 2015-05-18 3:38 PM
Find some play days to go to. They tend to have tons of fun things to do. BUT if you have any hope of competing in a futurity DO NOT COMPETE IN THE BARRELS. Not until December. Period.
You can do time only and exhibitions. But absolutely no competition for money, awards, trophies, etc.
When the one girl said you should running at the top of the 1D, you need to think about that as meaning you are running a 1D time NOT ACTUALLY COMPETING IN THE 1D.
If you compete before December in the barrels your horse will not be allowed to run in any of the futurities.
He can compete in poles, roping, trail, etc.
But if you have any real solid futurity plans, don't screw them up by jumping the gun in the barrels. :)
I have actually misinterpreted the use of this word. Since I've never ran barrels except goofing off with friends. I thought she meant as i planned on running him in barrels period. Next year I plan on doing just timed events, local stuff, very small barrel wise. Larger shows doing other things to get him set up in the correct atmosphere and still staying relaxed.
This year I dont even want to compete compete but just get into it. I have NO rodeo background. I come from a family that doesnt no jack about horses. I would like to get into it with a few ppl locally so I can emerse myself in 'the rodeo world' =P
So you misunderstood the use of the word 'futurity' as being just any competition? It's a very specific kind of competition. Check out the BFA.
Running in futurities is expensive but there are some big payouts, especially if you are enrolled in incentives.
http://www.bfaworld.com/
Even if you do not feel like competing in these with your boy, it always helps to educate yourself on the different kind of competitions. I'm going to run my 3 year old in some 5 year old futurities so she won't see an actual competition, only exhibitions, until December before her 5 year old year.
When it comes to gaming and barrel racing there are several different types: juveniles (for 3 year olds ), futurities (for 4 and some for 5 year olds ), derbies (for 6-7 year olds ), jackpots (usually your small local weekend stuff ), supershows (the big payout, big attendance ones that last a week or more ), playdays/gymkhanas (usually small stakes with ribbons and not paychecks, family oriented and multi-event ), breed shows (like AQHA ), and rodeos.
Some horses are good for one or more of the above, some are just jackpot horses. Some do well at rodeos. It's always good to know all your options.
ETA: You also have different divisions outside of just the different types. You can be in an amateur class, a seniors class (usually over 45, 55, or 65 ), a youth class, etc. It can get complicated quick. The toughest is usually in the Open classes at super shows.
This is the kinda of information I need. Lord I feel clueless. Lol I was never aware of this. Or that it I participated in certain events I could not run him in futurities. | |
| |
|
what kind of light, easy, beginner competetions do you do with your green/young horses?