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| A friend of mine's daughter has decided she no longer wants to do horses and he is having to sell her horse, a well bred 6yo gelding that is very talented BUT is a cribber. Cribs on fence.
He knows what he wants for him due to who the horse is and what he can do but I'm curious how much the cribbing would effect his price. |
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Cribbing definitely negatively affects the price of a horse. Many buyers will quit reading the ad when they see the word 'cribber'.
However, I think the only cribbers that are granted amnesty are the true 1D barrel horses, understandably.
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Location: Canada | I think it depends on the horse and the buyer. I think every buyer has a "no list." For example no mares, no over age 10, nothing over 15.2, no paints, no left horses, etc.
If the horse is talented, keeps weight, has no other major issues from the cribbing then it wouldn't deter me from buying it. I have a cribber... he will DESTROY fences if he doesn't have a crib collar on. I'm treating him for ulcers to see if that helps but as it stands he wears a collar at all times. His saving grace is he's beyond athletic, can smoke a pattern, and he ropes as well.
If he wasn't as talented or well trained, or if he was only a trail type horse I wouldn't buy but athletic and well rounded I'll look past a lot of things.
My pass is rearing... I REFUSE to buy one that rears. |
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  The Color Specialist
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | I'm not that stops reading as soon as I see "cribber". I won't take one for FREE. (No matter how nice of a horse it is.) |
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Location: Vinton, La. | I won't look twice at a cribber either. I own one, have owned her for 18 years. No way, no how, would never own another. Too many torn up buckets, fences, barns. Just NO. |
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| If your set up for a cribber, a cribber is not a problem. |
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Location: Texas | When I see 'cribber' in the ad, I stop reading. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I have had a few cribbers in my life and really dont ever want to get another one, but it just depends on how awesome of a horse it is befor I would even think about owning another one. I hate that horrible sound they make sucking that air, and I really hate seeing one sitting at a fence post are what ever and just standing there sucking. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | I also stop reading when I see it's a cribber. Sorry.
But, at the level I'm at, there are just too many trouble free easy keepers to buy a cribber.
I would make the exception in a couple of situations...
If I could afford a pro rodeo, 1D everywhere type horse, and it was everything else i wanted and got along with, I would consider it. Or, if it was a truly bomb proof kid's horse. It would still effect the price in either case. I just *really* don't want to own a cribber! |
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| Since I've known many cribbers who were jam-up, 1D horses, it probably wouldn't deter me at all but I have owned several myself - it's not that big of a deal to me. |
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| Thank you everyone. I guess it's just a matter of getting him out there on the market and the right person will find him :) |
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| I think it's so funny that people won't even look at a cribber. I've owned two... one of which is now 32, happy, healthy, fat, and sassy. The other is 10 and a wonderful animal. Neither have had issues. They both just wear a cribbing collar. I don't have to "set up" for a cribber. I can see the problem with a chewer, but both of mine were windsuckers. Never an issue. In fact, I often forget that they're cribbers because they don't even try with their collars on.
I suppose I just don't understand the stigma around them as I've had two that are no different than every other horse in our barn.
So for me, I wouldn't be deterred from a horse that is a cribber as long as the horse is what I want. |
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| I give zero cares about a cribber. I can name horses that were sold in the past few years with 200k price tags that r cribbers. Never had a cribber in the barn that wasn't at least decent and could win a local show.
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Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | Best horse I ever ran is a cribber. NEVER taught another how to do it. I have kept her with many others and not one picked it up. I just actually bought another cribber but she hasn't cribbed since moving her home...... |
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| whohasaplan - 2015-05-19 9:10 AM
Best horse I ever ran is a cribber. NEVER taught another how to do it. I have kept her with many others and not one picked it up. I just actually bought another cribber but she hasn't cribbed since moving her home......
Multiple horses a year in and out of the barn and never had a cribber teach another one, ever. I think the teaching thing is total bull i've spoke to numerous ppl and not one person has had that happen.
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Location: MD | I think most confuse the words cribber and chewer. so for that I would further inquire. How easily is she maintained and how destructive is she? If shes a terrible cribber... I would opt out entirely. If you can put a collar on her and she is staying quiet then I don't really care.
Also GREATLY depends on how talented the horse is. anything less then finished I would turn away from it. |
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Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | astreakinchic - 2015-05-19 9:13 AM
whohasaplan - 2015-05-19 9:10 AM
Best horse I ever ran is a cribber. NEVER taught another how to do it. I have kept her with many others and not one picked it up. I just actually bought another cribber but she hasn't cribbed since moving her home......
Multiple horses a year in and out of the barn and never had a cribber teach another one, ever. I think the teaching thing is total bull i've spoke to numerous ppl and not one only person has had that happen.
Agree 100%! |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow | Before last year I would have breezed by an ad with "cribber' in the description. Now that I know more about it, I would consider depending on other factors like talent and bloodlines etc... mine is a wind sucker but she wears a collar and it presents no issues at all.
I have treated for ulcers and changed her diet so her cribbing (out of the collar) is dramatically reduced. Keeping her in a pasture and not stalled is a big plus too. I have been very honest with people about her cribbing and yet I have had several people tell me they would not be bothered by her cribbing and have made offers to buy her. She is so sweet and a great riding partner, super nice horse. Easy to keep weight on etc...she is def worth the price of a cribbing collar. The last offer I had on her was $7500 and she isn't for sale. Just based on how she acts at arena's and shows in Ranch Pleasure she has made a very nice name for herself.
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Location: Florida.. | If horse has no other issues due to the cribbing- wind sucking.. and was talented or what I exactly was looking for then it would affect price some but id look.. some horses are maintained .. others are neurotic.. like a person on crack needing that "fix" .. Id pass by that one....
but id look at horse if its maintained and Id look at medical history to make sure its not had alot of colic episodes etc... |
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| a vice i cannot stand. I would stop reading at "cribber" too. |
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Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | Bibliafarm - 2015-05-19 9:36 AM
If horse has no other issues due to the cribbing- wind sucking.. and was talented or what I exactly was looking for then it would affect price some but id look.. some horses are maintained .. others are neurotic.. like a person on crack needing that "fix" .. Id pass by that one....
but id look at horse if its maintained and Id look at medical history to make sure its not had alot of colic episodes etc...
When I had to board my Carly mare years ago- she would colic every dang holiday. Gas colic from cribbing. I finally took her up to MSU thinking we were headed to surgery but lucked out. MSU had me change her diet. Alfalfa 2nd cutting hay and (at the time) Triple Crown Complete grain. That was 9 years ago. Since then I have my own farm and she hasn't had one small belly ache.....she gets almost a bale of alfalfa hay a day and 3# of Kalm Ultra now but I learned her ulcer issues were the cause of her cribbing. I don't even put a collar on her anymore.....she cribs a ton but it doesn't help. Turn out and hay help. I guess being she filled all the dreams I never thought to have in barrel racing......cribbers attract me! LOL. Carly has her Blazin Jetolena foal and is being bred back.....cribber and all....she is priceless to me.
Guess what I am rambling on is - as bad as my mare is- I can keep issues arising from cribbing at bay. Most can if they talk to their vet. I do understand not wanting it as a trait but for me- I guess I take a SECOND look if they do, lol. |
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Location: South Georgia | I bought one, and I will never do it again. So, for me, its a deal breaker. Even a cheap price would not make me look at one more seriously. So, in other words, I'd lower the price slightly, but its going to come down to a buyer that is willing to deal with it. |
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Location: Florida.. | whohasaplan - 2015-05-19 9:51 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-05-19 9:36 AM If horse has no other issues due to the cribbing- wind sucking.. and was talented or what I exactly was looking for then it would affect price some but id look.. some horses are maintained .. others are neurotic.. like a person on crack needing that "fix" .. Id pass by that one....
but id look at horse if its maintained and Id look at medical history to make sure its not had alot of colic episodes etc... When I had to board my Carly mare years ago- she would colic every dang holiday. Gas colic from cribbing. I finally took her up to MSU thinking we were headed to surgery but lucked out. MSU had me change her diet. Alfalfa 2nd cutting hay and (at the time ) Triple Crown Complete grain. That was 9 years ago. Since then I have my own farm and she hasn't had one small belly ache.....she gets almost a bale of alfalfa hay a day and 3# of Kalm Ultra now but I learned her ulcer issues were the cause of her cribbing. I don't even put a collar on her anymore.....she cribs a ton but it doesn't help. Turn out and hay help. I guess being she filled all the dreams I never thought to have in barrel racing......cribbers attract me! LOL. Carly has her Blazin Jetolena foal and is being bred back.....cribber and all....she is priceless to me. Guess what I am rambling on is - as bad as my mare is- I can keep issues arising from cribbing at bay. Most can if they talk to their vet. I do understand not wanting it as a trait but for me- I guess I take a SECOND look if they do, lol.
 yes like i said some can be maintained.. with no issues at all.. others that have to be stalled and or not maintained can be a mess.. |
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| Bibliafarm - 2015-05-19 8:36 AM If horse has no other issues due to the cribbing- wind sucking.. and was talented or what I exactly was looking for then it would affect price some but id look.. some horses are maintained .. others are neurotic.. like a person on crack needing that "fix" .. Id pass by that one....
but id look at horse if its maintained and Id look at medical history to make sure its not had alot of colic episodes etc...
This, I own a cribber- he did not start cribbing till a few years after we owned him- we was stalled a lot for weather and that is when he started. He is a mild cribber though- does not need a collar when turned out and sometimes I do not put one on him when stalled. He will only crib a few minutes, has never coliced, is a true 1D horse, gorgeous and sweet. There are degrees as to how bad of a cribber a horse can be, if it was one like mine I would look, if it was a 24/7 cribber- would rather crib than graze, I would pass.
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Location: Missouri | A couple years ago, I would never have owned a cribber after hearing all the horror stories, but now I have 2. They are both controlled with a collar, so they are no different than any of the others. I think the biggest thing is finding the right collar and tightness combination to prevent it.
For me, I do not feel it effects the price a ton, for those willing to deal with it will buy the horse anyway. A nice horse will still sell, cribber or not.
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Location: That part of Texas | astreakinchic - 2015-05-19 8:13 AM whohasaplan - 2015-05-19 9:10 AM Best horse I ever ran is a cribber. NEVER taught another how to do it. I have kept her with many others and not one picked it up. I just actually bought another cribber but she hasn't cribbed since moving her home...... Multiple horses a year in and out of the barn and never had a cribber teach another one, ever. I think the teaching thing is total bull i've spoke to numerous ppl and not one person has had that happen.
I have one so bad that I've caught him cribbing on t-posts and barb wire fences because he was too lazy to walk a mile up to the house to crib on the pipe fences. It's almost like a ritual thing with him -- closest I've seen is like what it is to humans and smoking and habitual routines of the sort. He's never taught anybody else to do it. He'll walk away from them to come up to the pens and nobody is interested in following him or what he's doing. He's never colicked either.
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What i mean, for thoes willing to purchase a cribber or windsucker if the price is worthy of everything else the horse is, it is willingly paid. For thoes who have an issue with it you will notget the price low enfough for them ever even if it is free.
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | Bibliafarm - 2015-05-19 8:36 AM
If horse has no other issues due to the cribbing- wind sucking.. and was talented or what I exactly was looking for then it would affect price some but id look.. some horses are maintained .. others are neurotic.. like a person on crack needing that "fix" .. Id pass by that one....
but id look at horse if its maintained and Id look at medical history to make sure its not had alot of colic episodes etc...
^^^Ditto this. It's so easy for a cribber to colic. I've lost my fair share of horses over the years (who hasn't?) and spent big money on the operating table for a few as well. I'm not looking at a cribber, not interested in something that may put itself on that table because of a bad habit. That's just me though. |
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Location: East of the Pecos | Cribbing is a deal breaker for me because no matter the price, there is always another out there just as good that doesn't crib. |
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| If you know how to deal with them it isn't a big deal at all! Definately not a deal breaker for me!! |
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| I definitely don't bat an eye when an ad says cribber. I have a cribber that is maintained with a collar, but still tries to crib. Granted she has definitely proven herself, but I look at it as a superficial quirk that can be easily managed, unlike pulling back/bucking etc..
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Location: Kansas | star1218 - 2015-05-19 8:51 AM a vice i cannot stand. I would stop reading at "cribber" too.
I agree......we've had two but only because they started cribbing "after" we bought them and learned to love them. I would never purposely buy one.
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Location: North Dakota | If they can be maintained and aren't too distructive I would consider a cribber. My runs are all metal fencing and the pastures don't have any wood fence so I don't think it would be too big an issue for me. I WON'T look at one that bucks, rears, pulls back, or is cold backed.
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Location: Ky | The best horse I've ever owned, and still own him today, is a cribber. It came with him. I wish he didn't but he does.
I knew it when I bought him but he was good enough to buy anyway. I've been offered twice what his market price should be and didn't sell him. That was back before he was retired. It's never affected him. He never coliced. He's 25 now and looks like he is ready to load up go compete right now. If anything he could stand to lose a few pounds.
I bought him when he was 7 years old. If I could buy another one just like him I would buy it today. Cribbing and all.
The people that always tried to buy him knew he cribbed. He was good enough to overlook the cribbing and eal with it.
That's the only kind of cribber I would deal with. A prospect that's cribbing? Hell no!! A horse with other faults and also cribs? Double hell no!!
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Location: Charlestown, IN | I honestly am surprised at how many say they stop reading if the ad says cribber. I own one. Had him 15 years. Does it get on my nerves, yes. Has he destroyed a few fence boards and stall doors, yes. His capabilities far outweigh the negatives of cribbing in my book. For the right horse, I don't care if they crib or weave or paw or whatever. |
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| My sister and I ran a mare that cribbed. We bought her when she was 5 and still own her at 27 today. She was the most honest, big hearted barrel horse we've owned qualified to Nationals in high school rodeo 6 times in barrels and poles between the two of us, and qualified for College national finals. She cribbed constantly, on the fences on her lead rope ect. At first we put a collar on her but that really didn't do anything and then we just decided it really was not a big deal. The whole 20+ years we have owned her she has never colic. I wouldn't change the price at all and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another if it was the right horse for me. |
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Location: So. Cali. | I have a mare I guess that falls under the labeling of 'cribber'. She doesnt suck wind, but she runs her teeth back & forth on her bars, thus causing her front teeth to be run down to her gums. Would it stop me from buying another like her? Not at all! I muzzle her inbetween meals, I guess if you dont want to be bothered to this than I understand. I file it under the title of 'quirks' and I'd rather take a second look at a cribber than have another horse that pulls like til it breaks something for no Godly reason. Just a preference like most other things.
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