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How do you get a horse on the track??
RoughstockKennel
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2015-05-24 8:04 PM
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So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma.
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Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-05-24 8:48 PM
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Following. I'll have a FDD X MJP X Takin On The Cash foal next year that I would like to run on the track some
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-24 8:58 PM
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I can tell you guy's this Its not cheap to have one running..LOL   
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RoughstockKennel
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2015-05-24 9:12 PM
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Haha..I assumed as much! But whats a monthly average ??
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-24 9:24 PM
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LOL I'm not even going to try to answer that one, may be some of the BB's on here that run will come on here and tell you.. We have more then a few that run racehorses...  
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Reg. Apr 2006
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I was told $1500 in the really nice barns. I think $850 a month would be on the cheapest side. That covers vet and farrier stuff too I think. I wouldn't even think of trying a 3 yr old that hasn't started. Get a yearling. 3's are racing against 2's that have so much more experience. So much money involved. And unless you are trying an own son/daughter of a proven/popular race stud, many of the top trainers won't even give you the time of day. If you have a money tree and just want to have some fun, go for it. I also would love to have one on the track, but here in WY it is not very cost effective due to paying so much for training vs any return if you win a race. Purses are fairly small. 
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-24 9:40 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-24 9:28 PM I was told $1500 in the really nice barns. I think $850 a month would be on the cheapest side. That covers vet and farrier stuff too I think. I wouldn't even think of trying a 3 yr old that hasn't started. Get a yearling. 3's are racing against 2's that have so much more experience. So much money involved. And unless you are trying an own son/daughter of a proven/popular race stud, many of the top trainers won't even give you the time of day. If you have a money tree and just want to have some fun, go for it. I also would love to have one on the track, but here in WY it is not very cost effective due to paying so much for training vs any return if you win a race. Purses are fairly small. 

I would love to have a money tree  
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wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-24 9:28 PM I was told $1500 in the really nice barns. I think $850 a month would be on the cheapest side. That covers vet and farrier stuff too I think. I wouldn't even think of trying a 3 yr old that hasn't started. Get a yearling. 3's are racing against 2's that have so much more experience. So much money involved. And unless you are trying an own son/daughter of a proven/popular race stud, many of the top trainers won't even give you the time of day. If you have a money tree and just want to have some fun, go for it. I also would love to have one on the track, but here in WY it is not very cost effective due to paying so much for training vs any return if you win a race. Purses are fairly small. 

I would love to have a money tree  

Me too! I'd probably drown it giving it too much water.....grow baby grow!!! lol
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Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-05-24 9:52 PM
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Leo - 2015-05-24 8:48 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-24 9:40 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-24 9:28 PM I was told $1500 in the really nice barns. I think $850 a month would be on the cheapest side. That covers vet and farrier stuff too I think. I wouldn't even think of trying a 3 yr old that hasn't started. Get a yearling. 3's are racing against 2's that have so much more experience. So much money involved. And unless you are trying an own son/daughter of a proven/popular race stud, many of the top trainers won't even give you the time of day. If you have a money tree and just want to have some fun, go for it. I also would love to have one on the track, but here in WY it is not very cost effective due to paying so much for training vs any return if you win a race. Purses are fairly small. 
I would love to have a money tree  
Me too! I'd probably drown it giving it too much water.....grow baby grow!!! lol

Me three!!! LOL. 
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-24 9:59 PM
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Leo - 2015-05-24 9:48 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-24 9:40 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-24 9:28 PM I was told $1500 in the really nice barns. I think $850 a month would be on the cheapest side. That covers vet and farrier stuff too I think. I wouldn't even think of trying a 3 yr old that hasn't started. Get a yearling. 3's are racing against 2's that have so much more experience. So much money involved. And unless you are trying an own son/daughter of a proven/popular race stud, many of the top trainers won't even give you the time of day. If you have a money tree and just want to have some fun, go for it. I also would love to have one on the track, but here in WY it is not very cost effective due to paying so much for training vs any return if you win a race. Purses are fairly small. 
I would love to have a money tree  
Me too! I'd probably drown it giving it too much water.....grow baby grow!!! lol

LOL, yep me too, I would kill it with to much love.. I would be giving it to much water and fertilizer. I do have a plant on my back porch that is called the Money Tree, but hav'ent seen any money come off of it yet and I have had that sucker going on 5 years  
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-24 10:00 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-24 9:40 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-24 9:28 PM I was told $1500 in the really nice barns. I think $850 a month would be on the cheapest side. That covers vet and farrier stuff too I think. I wouldn't even think of trying a 3 yr old that hasn't started. Get a yearling. 3's are racing against 2's that have so much more experience. So much money involved. And unless you are trying an own son/daughter of a proven/popular race stud, many of the top trainers won't even give you the time of day. If you have a money tree and just want to have some fun, go for it. I also would love to have one on the track, but here in WY it is not very cost effective due to paying so much for training vs any return if you win a race. Purses are fairly small. 
I would love to have a money tree  
Me too! I'd probably drown it giving it too much water.....grow baby grow!!! lol
Me three!!! LOL. 

If only we could find one right?!!!! 
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Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-05-24 10:07 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-24 9:40 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-24 9:28 PM I was told $1500 in the really nice barns. I think $850 a month would be on the cheapest side. That covers vet and farrier stuff too I think. I wouldn't even think of trying a 3 yr old that hasn't started. Get a yearling. 3's are racing against 2's that have so much more experience. So much money involved. And unless you are trying an own son/daughter of a proven/popular race stud, many of the top trainers won't even give you the time of day. If you have a money tree and just want to have some fun, go for it. I also would love to have one on the track, but here in WY it is not very cost effective due to paying so much for training vs any return if you win a race. Purses are fairly small. 
I would love to have a money tree  
Me too! I'd probably drown it giving it too much water.....grow baby grow!!! lol
Me three!!! LOL. 
If only we could find one right?!!!! 

Sure, we could all over water it and share, right???  
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-24 10:08 PM
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Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-05-24 10:26 PM
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I would lose money buying a money tree because I can ruin silk flowers. Might have to look for a sugar daddy instead. 
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Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2015-05-24 11:43 PM
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Training is about $35 a day. That will not include any vet bills. Vet bills can vary greatly from horse to horse and month to month. Jockey and trainer each get 10% of purses won (generally). I personally would not start a (quarter) horse this late in the year. Remington Park has the largest purse structure in Oklahoma and will finish this season next week. All that to say, it takes a strong will and a stronger bank account to have a racehorse...

But I have never had a feeling like that of walking to a winners circle when your horse wins...
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Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-05-25 12:25 AM
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A friend had one at one of the cheaper trainers and I believe it was $35 a day plus I think $10 a day for an exercise boy. Many trainers keep the horses injected as a preventative. I know that there is a constant stream of race horses at my vet. He is located near LA Downs and only treats horses.

They tattoo them at the track.
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Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2015-05-25 1:21 AM
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My last one in training two years ago in Louisiana: $45 a day trainer fees, plus $90 month ulcer meds, plus $90 month clenbuterol, plus the cost of the special supplements I wanted her on, $150 month farrier, $20 per ride for exercise jock when she was off track, vet bills just about equaled training fees or more every month, jock mount, pony fees, workmanship comp fees, hauling fees, etc etc etc... 8 months of being in training ran me close to $25,000.
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Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-05-25 5:26 AM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-24 9:28 PM I was told $1500 in the really nice barns. I think $850 a month would be on the cheapest side. That covers vet and farrier stuff too I think. I wouldn't even think of trying a 3 yr old that hasn't started. Get a yearling. 3's are racing against 2's that have so much more experience. So much money involved. And unless you are trying an own son/daughter of a proven/popular race stud, many of the top trainers won't even give you the time of day. If you have a money tree and just want to have some fun, go for it. I also would love to have one on the track, but here in WY it is not very cost effective due to paying so much for training vs any return if you win a race. Purses are fairly small. 
I would love to have a money tree  
Me too! I'd probably drown it giving it too much water.....grow baby grow!!! lol

Me three!!! LOL. 

I have some seeds, but I don't know how to fertilize them to make them viable. I don't believe the standard method would work.
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Posted 2015-05-25 8:15 AM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-24 9:28 PM I was told $1500 in the really nice barns. I think $850 a month would be on the cheapest side. That covers vet and farrier stuff too I think. I wouldn't even think of trying a 3 yr old that hasn't started. Get a yearling. 3's are racing against 2's that have so much more experience. So much money involved. And unless you are trying an own son/daughter of a proven/popular race stud, many of the top trainers won't even give you the time of day. If you have a money tree and just want to have some fun, go for it. I also would love to have one on the track, but here in WY it is not very cost effective due to paying so much for training vs any return if you win a race. Purses are fairly small. 

Vet and farrier is in addition to day rate.  Find a small barn...bigger trainers keep 100-200 head. Not as hands on in my opinion.  
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Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2015-05-25 8:17 AM
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Bigtime mistake - 2015-05-25 1:21 AM My last one in training two years ago in Louisiana: $45 a day trainer fees, plus $90 month ulcer meds, plus $90 month clenbuterol, plus the cost of the special supplements I wanted her on, $150 month farrier, $20 per ride for exercise jock when she was off track, vet bills just about equaled training fees or more every month, jock mount, pony fees, workmanship comp fees, hauling fees, etc etc etc... 8 months of being in training ran me close to $25,000.

Holy bejesus!  We are know where near that costly for a months training.  
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Posted 2015-05-25 9:31 AM
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RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM

So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma.

My question would be how long has horse been galloping? Breeding?
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RoughstockKennel
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2015-05-25 10:01 AM
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His sire is Some Beaches (who is the sire of the 04 barrel futurity ch) and is a son of Stoli. Bottom side is top moon and special task.

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Posted 2015-05-25 10:16 AM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-24 9:28 PM I was told $1500 in the really nice barns. I think $850 a month would be on the cheapest side. That covers vet and farrier stuff too I think. I wouldn't even think of trying a 3 yr old that hasn't started. Get a yearling. 3's are racing against 2's that have so much more experience. So much money involved. And unless you are trying an own son/daughter of a proven/popular race stud, many of the top trainers won't even give you the time of day. If you have a money tree and just want to have some fun, go for it. I also would love to have one on the track, but here in WY it is not very cost effective due to paying so much for training vs any return if you win a race. Purses are fairly small. 
I would love to have a money tree  
Me too! I'd probably drown it giving it too much water.....grow baby grow!!! lol
Me three!!! LOL. 
If only we could find one right?!!!! 

Sure, we could all over water it and share, right???  

You guys need to plant a nickel tree??. Mine gives me three nickels a year lol
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RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-25 9:01 AM His sire is Some Beaches (who is the sire of the 04 barrel futility ch) and is a son of Stoli. Bottom side is top moon and special task.

I would just save the money and send him to a barrel futurity trainer at around $750. 
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RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM

So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma.

What is your horses registered name ...

to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ...

Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ...

I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun

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Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-05-25 1:28 PM
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If you bought a 3yr old stud off the track thats just started galloping there was probably a reason he didn't go on to get a gate card or have any schooling races. Now if you just bought him from someone and he has not been tattooed etc you may still have one that might be worth a flip but you'd still haft to find a race trainer that would take a chance on a 3yr old stud. We send ours to the trainer as a yearling, they are tattooed, and ready to go as 2 yr olds....by 3yrs we've already decided they are headed to the barrel pen, culled out of performance discipline entirely, or they are good enough to keep racing.

Find a trainer with few horses in the barn, if your dead set on this. You need to be very cautious, you can get took by someone in a heartbeat. Also the risk of injury to your horse. IMO if you have a good amount invested in him I would not risk it at this point because he has already pasted the ideal age for things to happen at the track.
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Posted 2015-05-25 6:00 PM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-05-25 12:42 PM
RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma.
What is your horses registered name ... to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ... Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ... I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!! http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun

 This is absolutely false. They do not have to be tattooed to get on the grounds. This is why they have days set up to do such on the backside. Usually takes place in the test barn.
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Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-05-25 6:44 PM
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Is this a chicken across the road type of question.

Haul him up there and walk him on. ;)



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Reg. Apr 2012
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oija - 2015-05-25 6:44 PM

Is this a chicken across the road type of question.

Haul him up there and walk him on. ;)




My first thought was "practice, practice, practice". lol
...like How do you get to Carnegie Hall?
But, I liked the money tree idea better.
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Posted 2015-05-25 8:29 PM
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We use a smaller trainer in Tx bc he's the ones actually training the horse vs a big name with a 100 head in their barn in which case your horses training is only as good as as the hired help. Here's a breakdown of a monthly bill for the Derby horse who is actually winning:
Trainer bill:
Training- $1100
Shoes- $110
Vet:
Adequan - $60
Ulcer gard- $100 ???
Lasix -$20
That was for one month! It takes several to prep one and he won his first and only out at Houston.
Nomination fees for upcoming sire race is $1000, I think and I've already paid the first 2 payment. His SI is in the high 80s lower 90s. EVERYTIME they win they have to "move up" in competition
The 2 fillies we have at the track have the same training/shoeing bill however one suffered from a bout with ulcers and the other got sick. Another $2185. Both had one out and only one placed 3rd.

It's EXPENSIVE
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Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-05-26 6:42 AM
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Since your in Oklahoma.....yes I raced my boy at Remington.....I like Mike Howell, he races in Oklahoma and Texas. He is real good with the colts, a real down home horseman. Prices are better then most.

Pm me and Imwill give you his contact information.


Good luck with your horse it is so exciting to see your own horse run and sometimes win!

They get tattooed on the back side.....they CAN get on the track without a tattoo.



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RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM

So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma.

What is your horses registered name ...

to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ...

Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ...

I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun

My experience has been a lot different. I've been running horses for about 15 years and I've yet to have one run a good SI # on their 1st race. In fact, my best horse ran a SI 59 in his 1st race and ended up running SI 106 as his best. Won over $100,000 too. Different tracks/trainers, who knows? I just thought I'd add the other side of the thought process.

I do agree with whoever said that it's a little late. If he didn't have some outs as a 2 yr old, he lacks experience and it's difficult to make up. I'd also want to know why he didn't have an out or two. Was he hurt? Immature?



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RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma.
What is your horses registered name ... to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ... Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ... I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!! http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun
My experience has been a lot different. I've been running horses for about 15 years and I've yet to have one run a good SI # on their 1st race. In fact, my best horse ran a SI 59 in his 1st race and ended up running SI 106 as his best. Won over $100,000 too. Different tracks/trainers, who knows? I just thought I'd add the other side of the thought process. I do agree with whoever said that it's a little late. If he didn't have some outs as a 2 yr old, he lacks experience and it's difficult to make up. I'd also want to know why he didn't have an out or two. Was he hurt? Immature?
And with the crack down on illegal drugs SI's at Remington Park this year have been alot lower than in previous years.  I've seen horses win a race with a SI73.  

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RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma.
What is your horses registered name ... to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ... Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ... I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!! http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun
My experience has been a lot different. I've been running horses for about 15 years and I've yet to have one run a good SI # on their 1st race. In fact, my best horse ran a SI 59 in his 1st race and ended up running SI 106 as his best. Won over $100,000 too. Different tracks/trainers, who knows? I just thought I'd add the other side of the thought process. I do agree with whoever said that it's a little late. If he didn't have some outs as a 2 yr old, he lacks experience and it's difficult to make up. I'd also want to know why he didn't have an out or two. Was he hurt? Immature?
And with the crack down on illegal drugs SI's at Remington Park this year have been alot lower than in previous years.  I've seen horses win a race with a SI73.  
Time to get Ricky in a stake...I mean he's run two 9ths, surely they won't draw him out!  On second thought....let's just match him.  Tell Andy to dig his spurs out!  BLAHAHAHA   

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generally, how many months old are they when you send them to the trainer?

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booney - 2015-05-27 8:08 AM generally, how months old are they when you send them to the trainer?

I was wondering the same thing. My foals are April and May babies because I'm not set up to foal earlier. I'd like to race to get a good S.I. and then move on with their training.
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If you're going to run as a 2 YO then they need to be at the trainer no later than October - November of their yearling year.  It takes several months to prepare a horse to run down the race track.   
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Herbie - 2015-05-27 9:17 AM If you're going to run as a 2 YO then they need to be at the trainer no later than October - November of their yearling year.  It takes several months to prepare a horse to run down the race track.   

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RoughstockKennel - 2015-05-24 8:04 PM So..I just bought a 3 year old that's been started galloping. I tHink I'd like to see him run. This would be my first racehorse. What do I do to find a good trainer? How do i get tatood? Any info appreciated and sorry for the dumb questions! I'm located in Oklahoma.
What is your horses registered name ... to research his past works, schooling races etc etc .. this will tell you if the horse has any speed or not ... if they can't run in the low 80's at their first race ... time to sell them or take them home ... it is very tuff for a horse to increase their speed even 10 SI ... and needs to run high 80's 90's and 100+ to win anything with $$$'s enough to break even on training costs ... Raise his upper lip and look for a tattoo ... a horse has to be tattooed to even get on the grounds at a track ... AQHA has just now started printing the tattoo number on the back of the goofy worthless gold colored registration forms .... look on his papers after they print it out into your name ... I am tempted to get my trainers license and run this one myself ... he is one of the most exceptional colts I have raised ... or sell him to someone that likes him as much as I do!! http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/coronas+big+gun
My experience has been a lot different. I've been running horses for about 15 years and I've yet to have one run a good SI # on their 1st race. In fact, my best horse ran a SI 59 in his 1st race and ended up running SI 106 as his best. Won over $100,000 too. Different tracks/trainers, who knows? I just thought I'd add the other side of the thought process. I do agree with whoever said that it's a little late. If he didn't have some outs as a 2 yr old, he lacks experience and it's difficult to make up. I'd also want to know why he didn't have an out or two. Was he hurt? Immature?
And with the crack down on illegal drugs SI's at Remington Park this year have been alot lower than in previous years.  I've seen horses win a race with a SI73.  
Time to get Ricky in a stake...I mean he's run two 9ths, surely they won't draw him out!  On second thought....let's just match him.  Tell Andy to dig his spurs out!  BLAHAHAHA   

LMAO!!  Well, we do know your hubby wanted to put him in a stake right off!   
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I think there was a post on this within the last two weeks where several people talked about the cost! http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid...
Good luck! Im sure it would be exciting
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Herbie - 2015-05-27 9:17 AM If you're going to run as a 2 YO then they need to be at the trainer no later than October - November of their yearling year.  It takes several months to prepare a horse to run down the race track.   

What's all involved in their training/preparation?  
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Herbie - 2015-05-27 9:17 AM If you're going to run as a 2 YO then they need to be at the trainer no later than October - November of their yearling year.  It takes several months to prepare a horse to run down the race track.   
What's all involved in their training/preparation?  
Depending on if the horse is broke or not, that is the first step and getting them safe enough for a exercise rider to stand up on is the second.  That isn't as easy as it sounds, as when an exercise rider stands up, it's an entirely new feel for the colt.  They have to learn to pony, to go on the walker, get legs wrapped, etc.  Once the colt is broke enough to start galloping, he has to learn to gallop alone, with company, horses passing him, him passing other horses, etc.  He must learn to travel balanced and efficiently and there has to be enough steering to manuever down the race track at top speed.  It takes months of galloping to build and gradually increasing the colts work load for them to be fit enough to even begin speed work.  The the speed work has to be built and gradually increased as well as the distance with which the speed is held.  Then a horse has to have official works in company, get a tattoo, and get it's gate card at an official track.  Then hopefully get into a race.  There's a whole lot that goes into training a race horse and I know i'm leaving alot out here still probably, as i'm not a trainer. 

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Herbie - 2015-05-27 9:17 AM If you're going to run as a 2 YO then they need to be at the trainer no later than October - November of their yearling year.  It takes several months to prepare a horse to run down the race track.   
What's all involved in their training/preparation?  
Depending on if the horse is broke or not, that is the first step and getting them safe enough for a exercise rider to stand up on is the second.  That isn't as easy as it sounds, as when an exercise rider stands up, it's an entirely new feel for the colt.  They have to learn to pony, to go on the walker, get legs wrapped, etc.  Once the colt is broke enough to start galloping, he has to learn to gallop alone, with company, horses passing him, him passing other horses, etc.  He must learn to travel balanced and efficiently and there has to be enough steering to manuever down the race track at top speed.  It takes months of galloping to build and gradually increasing the colts work load for them to be fit enough to even begin speed work.  The the speed work has to be built and gradually increased as well as the distance with which the speed is held.  Then a horse has to have official works in company, get a tattoo, and get it's gate card at an official track.  Then hopefully get into a race.  There's a whole lot that goes into training a race horse and I know i'm leaving alot out here still probably, as i'm not a trainer. 
Let's back up a bit. You have to get them gate broke and leaving before you get a gate card. You put them in the gates with company, without company.  Ours generally walk through the gates every time they go to the track to gallop. Then you start shutting them up and hand open a couple times and see where your at. If they try to break the second or third time we will pop the gates next time. Some catch on quickly others take a few more times. We are at a training center so we can do this alot.   We want them thinking the gates are their friend.   They have to be broke to the pony horse and be able to pony with and without a rider on their back.

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This is all very interesting!!
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Herbie - 2015-05-27 9:17 AM If you're going to run as a 2 YO then they need to be at the trainer no later than October - November of their yearling year.  It takes several months to prepare a horse to run down the race track.   
What's all involved in their training/preparation?  
Depending on if the horse is broke or not, that is the first step and getting them safe enough for a exercise rider to stand up on is the second.  That isn't as easy as it sounds, as when an exercise rider stands up, it's an entirely new feel for the colt.  They have to learn to pony, to go on the walker, get legs wrapped, etc.  Once the colt is broke enough to start galloping, he has to learn to gallop alone, with company, horses passing him, him passing other horses, etc.  He must learn to travel balanced and efficiently and there has to be enough steering to manuever down the race track at top speed.  It takes months of galloping to build and gradually increasing the colts work load for them to be fit enough to even begin speed work.  The the speed work has to be built and gradually increased as well as the distance with which the speed is held.  Then a horse has to have official works in company, get a tattoo, and get it's gate card at an official track.  Then hopefully get into a race.  There's a whole lot that goes into training a race horse and I know i'm leaving alot out here still probably, as i'm not a trainer. 
Let's back up a bit. You have to get them gate broke and leaving before you get a gate card. You put them in the gates with company, without company.  Ours generally walk through the gates every time they go to the track to gallop. Then you start shutting them up and hand open a couple times and see where your at. If they try to break the second or third time we will pop the gates next time. Some catch on quickly others take a few more times. We are at a training center so we can do this alot.   We want them thinking the gates are their friend.   They have to be broke to the pony horse and be able to pony with and without a rider on their back.

Another thing ppl need to understand is that sometimes its hard to get a horse into a race. The purses in IN right now are good and they have an over abundance of 2yr olds and 3yr olds trying to get into those IN bred races. You might pay a training bill for a year and only be able to get 2 outs on a horse because they can't get drawn into a race.

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Herbie - 2015-05-27 9:17 AM If you're going to run as a 2 YO then they need to be at the trainer no later than October - November of their yearling year.  It takes several months to prepare a horse to run down the race track.   
What's all involved in their training/preparation?  
Depending on if the horse is broke or not, that is the first step and getting them safe enough for a exercise rider to stand up on is the second.  That isn't as easy as it sounds, as when an exercise rider stands up, it's an entirely new feel for the colt.  They have to learn to pony, to go on the walker, get legs wrapped, etc.  Once the colt is broke enough to start galloping, he has to learn to gallop alone, with company, horses passing him, him passing other horses, etc.  He must learn to travel balanced and efficiently and there has to be enough steering to manuever down the race track at top speed.  It takes months of galloping to build and gradually increasing the colts work load for them to be fit enough to even begin speed work.  The the speed work has to be built and gradually increased as well as the distance with which the speed is held.  Then a horse has to have official works in company, get a tattoo, and get it's gate card at an official track.  Then hopefully get into a race.  There's a whole lot that goes into training a race horse and I know i'm leaving alot out here still probably, as i'm not a trainer. 
Let's back up a bit. You have to get them gate broke and leaving before you get a gate card. You put them in the gates with company, without company.  Ours generally walk through the gates every time they go to the track to gallop. Then you start shutting them up and hand open a couple times and see where your at. If they try to break the second or third time we will pop the gates next time. Some catch on quickly others take a few more times. We are at a training center so we can do this alot.   We want them thinking the gates are their friend.   They have to be broke to the pony horse and be able to pony with and without a rider on their back.
Another thing ppl need to understand is that sometimes its hard to get a horse into a race. The purses in IN right now are good and they have an over abundance of 2yr olds and 3yr olds trying to get into those IN bred races. You might pay a training bill for a year and only be able to get 2 outs on a horse because they can't get drawn into a race.

We only have that problem with 2 yr olds in Oklahoma.  Once they break their maiden or turn 3 it's not quite that hard.   
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