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Location: South MS | My horse has got the WORST hooves - brittle, super thin walls and missing some wall. Looking for the most user-friendly glue on shoes for a barrel horse. Also, opinion on the best supplement to give horse with such bad feet? |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | We have not had luck with strictly glue-on shoes with one of my shelly footed TB's. We are now trying gluing a real shoe on with Equithane, building the adhesive up on the wall of the hoof as well, then nailing through that for extra attachment. Just got his first set a few days ago, will see how these do and chime in if the subject comes up again. As far as supplements, biotin deficiency is uncommon in horses as their natural diet in most cases provides it as does the fermentation process in their hindgut Quality of nutrition, genetics, farrier work, environment are the major factors in hoof quality. We found no noticeable improvement to his feet by adding biotin but we already feed strictly alfalfa which has it in high concentrations anyway, and he more recently also gets a senior pellet that also has it...only because I liked other things about the feed and he was needing more calories in general. He came to us in really bad shape crashing hard coming off the track, every cell of his being was in very bad shape and once we improved his diet in general, his hooves slowly all started holding shoes better...but he still loses them to shabby walls (horn) and when he does he'll take out a good chunk with it; he'll always be a poster child for spectacularly crappy TB feet.
And whatever you add or change, it'll take a year +/- for a hoof to fully show improvement so whatever you go with you have to stick with it a long while to do it's job and decide if it's working for your horse. I feel your pain! It's a slow and frustrating journey trying to figure out what works for sincerely crappy feet. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I have heard the glue on shoes can really be great. I don't have anyone in my area that would know how to use them :/
For supplements, THE has Hoof Growth. Has all the great nutrients to get their feet looking good. They also have a money back guarantee. |
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Location: South MS | Tilt, I have never had a horse with such poor feet! I guess it's encouraging to know there CAN be improvemen! We've tried a certain glue on, it's just horribly expensive and only lasts about four weeks (the glue cracks and shoe won't hold) - trying to find an alternative. Very interesting about the biotin. |
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Location: KS | Check out Dynamite Specialty Product's Dyna Hoof. I have an add in the retail section or you can PM me. High quality products made in the USA. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | I had the PLR race shoes glued on for two shoeing cycles and then went to the Flexx Sport because the glued on aluminums don't allow the heels to move due to the glue "locking" the heels to the shoe.
The only issues I had with the shoes staying on was one time when the weather was hot and the glue cured to quickly for the speed we were working at, the shoes came off at 2 and 3 weeks, chalk that up to a rookie mistake, lol. Other than that, they stay on for 6-8 weeks easy, even in the south Louisiana mud. We usually have to cut through the glue with nippers to get them off.
I would not hesitate to use them again, especially in a very wet climate. I know that is the exact opposite of what most people think but if you take the time to prepare the foot properly for glue on shoes, the quality of the foot can really improve in just a few months.
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| Barnmom - 2015-06-02 11:04 PM
I had the PLR race shoes glued on for two shoeing cycles and then went to the Flexx Sport because the glued on aluminums don't allow the heels to move due to the glue "locking" the heels to the shoe.
The only issues I had with the shoes staying on was one time when the weather was hot and the glue cured to quickly for the speed we were working at, the shoes came off at 2 and 3 weeks, chalk that up to a rookie mistake, lol. Other than that, they stay on for 6-8 weeks easy, even in the south Louisiana mud. We usually have to cut through the glue with nippers to get them off.
I would not hesitate to use them again, especially in a very wet climate. I know that is the exact opposite of what most people think but if you take the time to prepare the foot properly for glue on shoes, the quality of the foot can really improve in just a few months.
Do you have a picture of this Flex shoe? Is it in the same theory as the Razer shoe, allowing the heel to flex? |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | The Edge.
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Location: Bama | This is probably what barnmom was talking about.
http://www.soundhorse.com/flexxsport.htm |
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Location: Oklahoma | My farrier really likes Keratex Hoof Hardner. My (appendix) gelding stays barefoot, so I can't help with glue. I changed his diet and after about six months I started seeing improvement. It's a been a year now and with diet and farrier trimming style changes I have completely different feet. I did biotin supplements, but I was impatient... so I might should attribute some of that to the Biotin I fed last year. One farrier swore by alfalfa pellets, but he was already getting alfalfa flakes so I didn't think it would matter. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | I will ask my friend about the glue on shoe because her mustang gets glue on shoes. THE makes a really great Hoof Salve that I think you should try. Super efffective and have had great results. They say you should always pair it with THE Hoof Growth. I did and was happy with the results and so was my shoer. But I also have a few friends who just did the Hoof Salve and they also got super good results. The shoers were impressed with the salve and how well it work. |
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Location: Ky | highonsugar - 2015-06-02 4:21 PM My horse has got the WORST hooves - brittle, super thin walls and missing some wall. Looking for the most user-friendly glue on shoes for a barrel horse. Also, opinion on the best supplement to give horse with such bad feet?
Best hoof dressing I've ever used by far is Equine Relevare Hoof Dressing. It's gotten **** hard to get now. I've got a can on back order with Stockhoff's right now.
The World's Best Hoof Oil was second but it's a distant second.
I never saw anything like the Relevare. Not had my horseshoer whom had been the business 60 years. He said he never saw anything work that well. He used to have other clients of his call me to find out where to get it. |
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Location: Stephenville, TX | jd&ez - 2015-06-03 5:40 PM highonsugar - 2015-06-02 4:21 PM My horse has got the WORST hooves - brittle, super thin walls and missing some wall. Looking for the most user-friendly glue on shoes for a barrel horse. Also, opinion on the best supplement to give horse with such bad feet? Best hoof dressing I've ever used by far is Equine Relevare Hoof Dressing. It's gotten **** hard to get now. I've got a can on back order with Stockhoff's right now.
The World's Best Hoof Oil was second but it's a distant second.
I never saw anything like the Relevare. Not had my horseshoer whom had been the business 60 years. He said he never saw anything work that well. He used to have other clients of his call me to find out where to get it.
I live in the Bryan/College Station, TX area where Equine Relevare is made, and can't find it either. Lol! I found one can on the shelf at Producer's Co-op in Bryan last week and scooped it up and ran to the checkout like I was claiming a lottery ticket. Trust me, with all this rain it's a farrier's nightmare. You might try googling Emery Enterprises. |
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Location: Texas | I tried my first pair of easy care glue on yesterday, well my new farrier did. Today he's sore. I told her you can't take much off of him. My poor horse has been thru the wringer with farriers not listening to me. She's suppose to cme out tomorrow and look at him. Has anyone had success barrel racing in them or do they come off easily? |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | 3rdtimesacharm - 2015-06-04 12:42 AM I tried my first pair of easy care glue on yesterday, well my new farrier did. Today he's sore. I told her you can't take much off of him. My poor horse has been thru the wringer with farriers not listening to me. She's suppose to cme out tomorrow and look at him. Has anyone had success barrel racing in them or do they come off easily? Which ones did you use? Just curious because I am thinking about using the glue ons that have the frog support due to the fact you really can't use pour in pads with glue on shoes.
No, if the shoes are glued on properly, they should not come off easily. Because of the fact the heels are glued all the way to the end of the shoe they are much harder to grab if your horse overreaches.
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| 3rdtimesacharm - 2015-06-04 12:42 AM
I tried my first pair of easy care glue on yesterday, well my new farrier did. Today he's sore. I told her you can't take much off of him. My poor horse has been thru the wringer with farriers not listening to me. She's suppose to cme out tomorrow and look at him. Has anyone had success barrel racing in them or do they come off easily?
I can only imagine how sore your horse would be without the shoes for protection. Trimming your horse should not make your horse sore and I doubt all farriers that you have used are that inept. Sounds like a far more serious issue. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | I don't have any info on glue on shoes
But I can tell you
Animal Element's Foundation Detox helps hooves grow!!!! |
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Location: Texas | She used easy care performance shoes. My horse has little sole. She cut off a lot off toe and sole after I told her not to take much sole off. She came over today and said its just muscle soreness from the drama tic change. I call it bs |
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Location: South MS | jd&ez, yes the Relevare is a rare bird! LOL! Did a search and noone carries it! Sounds like it would be really good stuff to get hold of!
Thank you to all for the responses! |
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Best glue on shoe and best hoof supplement?