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| Do you or would you go to a race that has no visible clock? I went to a race today that has no visible timer and yeh I don't like it. I won't be going again.
How expensive is a timer(clock) for a large production company? It has to be minor for a big production company like this, right? 
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| How did they time the race, a flag man? |
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| I'm guessing you meant the clock is not visible. I'd be willing to bet I know which race/producer you're talking about. |
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| luckyjo - 2015-06-13 5:17 PM I'm guessing you meant the clock is not visible. I'd be willing to bet I know which race/producer you're talking about.
yeh sorry no visible clock |
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| My understanding is the timer board ranges from 700-1500.
It really doesn't bother me if the event doesn't have one, times are tough right now, I am happy that there are still added money events |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Shoot in the old days we didnt have a clock to see, heck we barley got real timers, hated to run against a flag, LOL.. But if a flag was the only way, we ran  |
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Location: Montana | So far none of the races I have gone to around here have a timer board/clock. I didn't know it was that big of a deal. 
ETA: We do have electric eye timers, just not hanging clocks/timer boards.
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| I guess we are just spoiled here in Texas that we are use to having a clock at big shows. I personally don't like not having one at the big arenas where other producers usally have them. JMPO |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-06-13 7:20 PM Shoot in the old days we didnt have a clock to see, heck we barley got real timers, hated to run against a flag, LOL.. But if a flag was the only way, we ran
heeeheee Oh I remember the old days and flags but it's 2015 and weird to not have one at a big show |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | kramerica - 2015-06-13 9:43 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-06-13 7:20 PM Shoot in the old days we didnt have a clock to see, heck we barley got real timers, hated to run against a flag, LOL.. But if a flag was the only way, we ran
Awww the good old days  but you are so right we have gotton spoiled, it would be really weird to go to a big show and not have a clock to watch the runs with. |
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| I went to an APHA show and they were timing with a IPhone. They never called out the times just the winners. I guess I have been running where there were timers for at least 40 years. Some places have timers some don't. I don't care, but a hand held IPhone is a little backwards to me. |
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| No board doesn't bother me, but I want to see more than 1 person keeping score up there.
I do expect it at the big 200+ entry type shows.
No TIMERS and I wouldn't go back - I get the good old days and the flag, but it's 2015 now and things can just be too close to call |
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| Up here in MN there's really not very many arenas that have the timer board most likely due to cost, the ones that do are usually only out at big events or where it's worth it to spend the time/money to put them up lol I guess it's never been a big deal in our area! I do like to see them at big events though not because I don't trust them just because it's cool to see your time running out of the arena and when watching to see others :) |
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Location: SE Missouri | Most of our little local shows don't have the timer display but all have the electronic eye timer and have for many many years.. The time is announced after each run. (80-130 in open)
I would think its odd if a bigger show didn't have the display. I figure if they are charging an office/processing fee and keeping 20-25% of the money they should be able to budget for one of those small electronic displays..
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Location: CTX | Wow, I guess we are spoiled rotten here in CTX..... most races we go to nowadays have a clock hanging. And that includes the weekday races that have 30-50 runners. And the ones that don't have a clock, do have the electronic timers.
Can't imagine having to use an iphone.... at least a flag is visible for everyone to see.
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Location: In a happy place | Seriously?????????????? |
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| Makes you wonder why large rodeo contractors don't have a visible running clock display. This should be required at all WPRA approved barrel races at pro rodeos. |
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| A visible clock does not mean that they will get your time correct. At a show with approximately 600 entries, a friend's time was called out wrong. She happened to buy her video ànd the time was announced different from the display. It dropped her from 3rd in the 1D to 7th in the 1D and cost her the 1D average. She called them and they said they did not make mistakes. She took a picture of the display and sent it to them. They ended up paying her the difference in the two places and the average money.
The idea here is that it does not make any difference what the display says if they call your time out incorrectly your placeing will change. You better have someone listening for you or buy your video every time. |
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| A visible clock does not mean that they will get your time correct. At a show with approximately 600 entries, a friend's time was called out wrong. She happened to buy her video ànd the time was announced different from the display. It dropped her from 3rd in the 1D to 7th in the 1D and cost her the 1D average. She called them and they said they did not make mistakes. She took a picture of the display and sent it to them. They ended up paying her the difference in the two places and the average money.
The idea here is that it does not make any difference what the display says if they call your time out incorrectly your placing will change. You better have someone listening for you or buy your video every time. |
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| It is best to cover all the bases and have a clock and two people in the booth. Extra measures certainly will not hurt. I have run at local jackpots that had no clock showing but it was a small group not even 100 runners and i would guess they could not afford a displayed clock. No big whoop, but a big show that has nearly 400 runners in one day-ridics! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | At a small jackpot I dont think it would really matter not having a clock to watch, now at a big race yes I would like to be able to see the times. |
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Location: In my own world | With all of the times I have heard of someone padding the times to move themselves into a good position I would prefer a visible clock. But that would leave me with very few races to go to around here. Back in the day I never thought much of it. But seems to be many dishonest people nowadays |
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Location: Arkansas | I mostly rodeo, so a visable clock is a novelty, not a neccessity, for me. |
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Location: The edge of no where | As long as they've got timers.... I don't care if they have a visible timer board posted or not. They do need to have 2 people working on times. Other than that, it's no big deal. |
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| streakysox - 2015-06-14 2:38 PM
A visible clock does not mean that they will get your time correct. At a show with approximately 600 entries, a friend's time was called out wrong. She happened to buy her video ànd the time was announced different from the display. It dropped her from 3rd in the 1D to 7th in the 1D and cost her the 1D average. She called them and they said they did not make mistakes. She took a picture of the display and sent it to them. They ended up paying her the difference in the two places and the average money.
The idea here is that it does not make any difference what the display says if they call your time out incorrectly your placeing will change. You better have someone listening for you or buy your video every time.
This happened to me a month ago. I thought FOR SURE my time would win me a check. I went and looked at the results after they were posted, my time on my video was not the same as the time listed on the results. Luckily, I was able to show the video and they fixed the results and wrote me a check. . . Electronic displays are becoming a necessity, IMO.
Times are changing, and people aren't always honest. |
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Location: Arkansas | I think sometimes errors may be a lack of total concentration on the task at hand. It can be hard to fb, text, and be accurate at all three each time, lol!! |
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| Just an FYI, if you ever greatly question your time that was called for whatever reason, most timing systems these days store the times in the memory, where the secretary should be able to go back and prove it to you (I assume if you get up there by the end of your drag, or somewhat soon.) I did not know this until recently. Pretty handy. |
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Location: The edge of no where | One more reason I love rodeogo......texts you instantly what your time was recorded as being. They can hook it up so that times are not manually input into the computer, it automatically reads the time from the timer.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | SpaceCowboy - 2015-06-15 10:47 AM Just an FYI, if you ever greatly question your time that was called for whatever reason, most timing systems these days store the times in the memory, where the secretary should be able to go back and prove it to you (I assume if you get up there by the end of your drag, or somewhat soon.) I did not know this until recently. Pretty handy.
They are also set up to PRINT out the times. That being said, there are and have been discrepancies between the actual timers and "scoreboard"......timer in the office wins! |
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Location: CentralTexas | I honestly don't think its a big deal. I recently went to Redbud AQHA show in OKC and they didn't have a clock. Every college rodeo I went to last year didn't have a clock. A lot of rodeos don't have a clock. I'm just happy if they have a timer and not a flagger. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | streakysox - 2015-06-13 9:59 PM I went to an APHA show and they were timing with a IPhone. They never called out the times just the winners. I guess I have been running where there were timers for at least 40 years. Some places have timers some don't. I don't care, but a hand held IPhone is a little backwards to me.
AQHA still does that here at all the shows. You have no idea who won until it is over and they call out placings. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | Sometimes we don't get to use the timer at the arena in my hometown. It's the county fairgrounds. For the longest time, the timer flat out didn't work. Then a lady whose daughter was in 4H convinced her boss to sponsor a clock with his business, but our 4H twisted the wording of the rules and completely took control over the equipment that goes WITH the timer. Anyone that wants to use the timer has to pay 4H Horse Council and then they will reimburse you or whatever if you don't break anything. It's absolutely stupid because the guy wasn't meaning to donate the timer and equipment JUST for 4H, he thought he was donating it to the fairgrounds, for everyone to use (the barrel racing associations, the posse who puts on the rodeo and playdays, high school equestrian team meets, etc).
For a long time associations had to bring their own timing system. But I noticed this year at the rodeo we were using the regular clock, so I don't know if someone convinced 4H to quit being jerks or what.
The point I was trying to make is I've ran a lot/watched a lot of races/rodeos/equestrian team meets where you didn't know the time until it was announced. It all worked out okay.
ETA we went without a visible clock for so long at my hometown rodeo that it became an annual contest amongst our group of friends to see who could be the closest at guessing the times throughout the events haha. This one older posse guy is freakishly good at guessing barrel racing times.
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Not sure why it would be an issue........m |
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Location: Texas | Does not bother me at all. I also love in central tx and a lot of arena have them so the producers will use them but could careless if they did not have them. |
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| With barrel racing having so much money to be won and the high prices these horses sale for I feel a print sheet from the timer being posted is the most fair way to keep mistakes from happening . When there is $100000 I feel it should always be posted ! |
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No visible clock?