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Barrel saddles that ride like a Cutting saddle....
Whoop Z Day Z
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Posted 2015-06-18 2:50 PM
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Tami semas by Jeff Smith.
It is a cross between his cutter and the Pozzi
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Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2015-06-18 2:51 PM
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Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2015-06-18 3:20 PM
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Tatum2 - 2015-06-18 2:50 PM

Tami semas by Jeff Smith.
It is a cross between his cutter and the Pozzi

Or just buy one of his barrel saddles on a cutting tree. ^^
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-06-18 3:22 PM
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I have two Jeff Smith cutters that I had made single skirted with in skirt rigging to look like a barrel saddle.  Both of my saddles are on the Buster Welch tree and have a really nice pocket to sit in.  I allllllllmost sold one a couple weeks ago but I decided I just couldn't let them go.  I was scared it would take me too long to get another one. 

I've not sat in Tami's saddle, but it has a higher cantle than my saddle does. I do ride a bit bigger seat in this saddle.  I usually ride a 14.5" barrel saddle but ride a 15" in this saddle. 

Prior to the JS cutter I had made, I was riding a Joey Jemison cutter and I still have an old Rickey Green that belongs to my mother.  I use it to ride outside horses and colts in.  LOOOOOVE the way a cutter rides and don't think I could go back to a traditional barrel saddle. 



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Whoop Z Day Z
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2015-06-18 3:32 PM
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Herbie - 2015-06-18 2:22 PM

I have two Jeff Smith cutters that I had made single skirted with in skirt rigging to look like a barrel saddle.  Both of my saddles are on the Buster Welch tree and have a really nice pocket to sit in.  I allllllllmost sold one a couple weeks ago but I decided I just couldn't let them go.  I was scared it would take me too long to get another one. 

I've not sat in Tami's saddle, but it has a higher cantle than my saddle does. I do ride a bit bigger seat in this saddle.  I usually ride a 14.5" barrel saddle but ride a 15" in this saddle. 

Prior to the JS cutter I had made, I was riding a Joey Jemison cutter and I still have an old Rickey Green that belongs to my mother.  I use it to ride outside horses and colts in.  LOOOOOVE the way a cutter rides and don't think I could go back to a traditional barrel saddle. 

This is what I was thinking of having done- I have been ridding a Masters on a Pheonix tree. I have sat in 15638946393 barrel saddles and hate them all but mine until I sat in a cutter and it had the same "feel"
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Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-06-18 3:57 PM
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I have a Billy Cook that has a Buster Welch tree. Love it.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-06-18 4:44 PM
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I love the looks of Herbies saddles, If I ever got another saddle would love to try out the Jeff Smith  
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cowgirl_3207
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-06-18 8:58 PM
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I too feel in love with a cutting saddle while saddle shopping. My friends ROO HIDE...ahhhhhhh. I really have been talking with my SO about me getting a Jeff Smith as well.
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Reg. May 2011
Posted 2015-06-19 6:27 AM
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Allen Ranch-I believe he has started making some barrel saddles on a cutting tree..I have a regular Allen Ranch cutting saddle & love,love it! After many barrel saddles this is the first time in years that I have actually felt comfortable! Not being thrown forward or fighting to keep my feet under me....
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Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2015-06-19 8:38 AM
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lindseylou2290
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2015-06-19 9:43 AM
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cowgirl_3207 - 2015-06-18 8:58 PM I too feel in love with a cutting saddle while saddle shopping. My friends ROO HIDE...ahhhhhhh. I really have been talking with my SO about me getting a Jeff Smith as well.

Oh girl ... if I had the money for a new Roo ..... lemme wipe the drool off my chin!   
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-06-19 9:44 AM
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lindseylou2290 - 2015-06-19 9:43 AM
cowgirl_3207 - 2015-06-18 8:58 PM I too feel in love with a cutting saddle while saddle shopping. My friends ROO HIDE...ahhhhhhh. I really have been talking with my SO about me getting a Jeff Smith as well.
Oh girl ... if I had the money for a new Roo ..... lemme wipe the drool off my chin!   

If ya'll like the Roo, better NEVER ride a Joey Jemison.  Ohhhhhhh my!  That woudl be my saddle of choice to have built if money were no object. The one I had was 100% worn out and still rode like a dream!   
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Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-06-19 9:46 AM
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I have a Roohide and it really is just amazing to sit in, so comfortable!
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Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2015-06-19 10:04 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-06-18 4:44 PM I love the looks of Herbies saddles, If I ever got another saddle would love to try out the Jeff Smith  

Me too!  This is on my wish list.  
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-06-19 11:08 AM
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teed - 2015-06-19 6:27 AM Allen Ranch-I believe he has started making some barrel saddles on a cutting tree..I have a regular Allen Ranch cutting saddle & love,love it! After many barrel saddles this is the first time in years that I have actually felt comfortable! Not being thrown forward or fighting to keep my feet under me....

I don't think Stanley has any of them done yet.  Mine is going to be on a Bob Marshall cutting tree and will look like a stripped down cutter.  I'm really looking forward to working on it once the tree is completed.   They're having to carve the bars by hand since they don't usually make trees that small.  Mine is a 14.5" 
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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2015-06-19 11:22 AM
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Why not just run in a cutting saddle? If you're comfortable in it, I say use it. I've rode cutters in my barrel saddles plenty of times. I like it better.

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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-06-19 11:25 AM
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It's tough to find a cutting saddle smaller than a 16"....  That's why I'm having a 14.5" built. 
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-06-19 11:29 AM
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grinandbareit - 2015-06-19 11:22 AM Why not just run in a cutting saddle? If you're comfortable in it, I say use it. I've rode cutters in my barrel saddles plenty of times. I like it better.

For me, it was hard to find a true cutter in a seat any smaller than a 15" other than having one made.  I was running in a 15.5 Joey Jemison.  Had a 16" Marty Byrd and it was just too big.  I typically ride a 14.5" barrel saddle.  Plus, the cutters are mostly double skirted, long skirted and full double rigged.  My horse is pretty small, so I wanted the shorter single skirt so it wasn't hitting him at the top of the hip, and also wanted the in skirt rigging to get as close of a "close contact" feel as possible.  I did ride and run in my true cutters for a while before I had mine made, but was able to make the changes I wanted to best suit my needs after I knew the ride and the seat size I wanted. 
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-06-19 11:30 AM
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rachellyn80 - 2015-06-19 11:08 AM
teed - 2015-06-19 6:27 AM Allen Ranch-I believe he has started making some barrel saddles on a cutting tree..I have a regular Allen Ranch cutting saddle & love,love it! After many barrel saddles this is the first time in years that I have actually felt comfortable! Not being thrown forward or fighting to keep my feet under me....
I don't think Stanley has any of them done yet.  Mine is going to be on a Bob Marshall cutting tree and will look like a stripped down cutter.  I'm really looking forward to working on it once the tree is completed.   They're having to carve the bars by hand since they don't usually make trees that small.  Mine is a 14.5" 
Darn, I was hoping you had it already!  Please post pics of this when you get it; i'm super excited and interested to see it! I had an old, worn out, 16" Bob Marshall cutter years ago that rode really nice!  A little flatter seated than the Joey or Ricky, but it rode and fit a horse great.

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gypsy1997
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2015-06-19 11:56 AM
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I have a Jeff Smith barrel saddle and love it. We recently bought a used Marty Byrd ranch cutter that is a 15" and I have threatened to steal it from hubby. I could definitely run barrels in it.  
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-06-19 12:07 PM
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 Not sure where you are located but I have had 2 saddles made by L?R in Terrel. They are made in a modified Buster Welch tree. Fit everything and sit wonderfully. Easy to work with and VERY reasonable.
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-06-19 12:13 PM
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Herbie - 2015-06-19 11:30 AM
rachellyn80 - 2015-06-19 11:08 AM
teed - 2015-06-19 6:27 AM Allen Ranch-I believe he has started making some barrel saddles on a cutting tree..I have a regular Allen Ranch cutting saddle & love,love it! After many barrel saddles this is the first time in years that I have actually felt comfortable! Not being thrown forward or fighting to keep my feet under me....
I don't think Stanley has any of them done yet.  Mine is going to be on a Bob Marshall cutting tree and will look like a stripped down cutter.  I'm really looking forward to working on it once the tree is completed.   They're having to carve the bars by hand since they don't usually make trees that small.  Mine is a 14.5" 
Darn, I was hoping you had it already!  Please post pics of this when you get it; i'm super excited and interested to see it! I had an old, worn out, 16" Bob Marshall cutter years ago that rode really nice!  A little flatter seated than the Joey or Ricky, but it rode and fit a horse great.

I know!  I figure it will be next year before it's done, but I know it will be worth the wait.  We are doing it single skirt and cut down, because like you mentioned, we ride shorter backed horses and don't need the extra bulk.  I also want it as light as possible, lol  I figure if I absolutely hate it I can still sell it as a youth cutter.  
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-06-19 1:14 PM
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I love the looks of this saddle.  Purdy 
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Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2015-06-19 1:45 PM
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I purchased this saddle used as a colt/husband saddle, but I LOVE it! It's made by Kasperski Saddlery, as far as I know they do not have a website. 
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Whoop Z Day Z
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2015-06-19 4:07 PM
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just ordered a single skirted cutting saddle on the buster welch tree boy did i send them in a loop doing that! Ordered it from a smaller maker will post pics in 8 weeks and let you know how i like it!
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Reg. Apr 2008
Posted 2015-06-19 6:13 PM
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I have a Jeff Smith I want to get rid of. Pm for information.
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Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2015-06-21 4:27 PM
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I recently picked up an older Martin /Sherry Cervi.  It has a nice close contact & fairly flat seat like a cutter but it has a tad more "pocket" in the seat than a cutting saddle does.  I really like the way it rides & am super sad that it doesn't fit the horse I bought it for.  Now I'm really interested in trying out one of their newer models. 

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Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-06-26 1:53 AM
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Mike Green saddles sit like cutting saddles and I have an old talmadge green one that was built on a cutting tree. love both of them.
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Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-06-26 3:54 AM
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Just bought another MIKE green. It's mikes tree (same one he's had with Caldwell etc) and triple creek makes it now. Must go through janelle or MIKE to order and it's jus pure heaven.
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Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 3:32 PM
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On these Buster welch trees, how did you all know which bar angle to order? my saddle maker asking me now..and im feeling like a dope not knowing. and they come with a couple different size swells.. 
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cowgirl_3207
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-07-09 4:42 PM
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Also after posting on this a while back I discovered that ROOHIDE is now making a barrel racing saddle!!!! Started this year
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Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 4:55 PM
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I just got some great information that i have never been aware of. Ken Harrup from TOP HAND SADDLE CO, in Wi, sent me to a site to read up on exactly what i was looking for!! The angles of which one you should order, talks about the angles, twists, the rock, etc. And stuff about the Buster Welch tree that i never knew!! He also makes a saddle with the BW tree. Ordering Now!!

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Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-07-09 5:23 PM
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nettieb3 - 2015-07-09 4:55 PM

I just got some great information that i have never been aware of. Ken Harrup from TOP HAND SADDLE CO, in Wi, sent me to a site to read up on exactly what i was looking for!! The angles of which one you should order, talks about the angles, twists, the rock, etc. And stuff about the Buster Welch tree that i never knew!! He also makes a saddle with the BW tree. Ordering Now!!

What's the site??!!??
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Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-07-09 5:25 PM
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I know the KT balanced ride by shiloh is on a modified buster welch tree and has a flat seat. It's great for those who tend to ride a little more forward as it helps you stay on your butt. It also has forward hung stirrups
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Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 5:26 PM
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Dreamingofcans - 2015-07-09 5:23 PM
nettieb3 - 2015-07-09 4:55 PM I just got some great information that i have never been aware of. Ken Harrup from TOP HAND SADDLE CO, in Wi, sent me to a site to read up on exactly what i was looking for!! The angles of which one you should order, talks about the angles, twists, the rock, etc. And stuff about the Buster Welch tree that i never knew!! He also makes a saddle with the BW tree. Ordering Now!!
What's the site??!!??
whoops, i guess that information would have helped. lol...American Saddle Maker Assoc.

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Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 5:37 PM
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Guess i didnt realize that the Buster Welch Tree is just a bar type, you can put several different size swells on it. and different angles etc. I was thinking it was just a tree he designed and was all standard except for ordering your seat size. I 
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Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-07-09 10:33 PM
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Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-07-11 10:48 AM
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When I was at a clinic Sharon Camarillo told me that she modeled her Court's barrel saddles after cutters.
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Reg. Dec 2013
Posted 2015-12-20 3:19 PM
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Posted 2015-12-20 8:32 PM
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New in stock: 14.5" Allen Ranch cutter-cross barrel saddle. It's on a modified cutting tree and is fitting the cow-bred barrel horses really well. $3850.







Allen Ranch Saddle Shop's photo.

This was on the Allen Ranch facebook page. I tried to copy the picture but of course it didn't work. He had these saddles at the BFA also. You can go to their fb and see the pictures of them. I have an original Allen Ranch barrel saddle I have had for almost 12 years and I love it. Would love to have one of these new ones!
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Reg. Dec 2013
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I ordered one it will be my fourth Allen ranch I love them, I was hoping someone that has one would tell me how they like there's.
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