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       Location: Montana | Added 8-22-15: Soooo, I think because ASOF went up so much this year, I'm going to step back and go with something a little more affordable for a stud choice for my mare. My personal 2 choices are...drum roll please Firewater Finale http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/firewater+finale Aint Seen Nothin Yet http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/aint+seen+nothin+yet
Big question, which of the 2 would cross best on my mare to get a barrel prospect? I'm hoping to get a blond filly, but that's part of the fun of the gamble. :) I think I'm finally going to be in a position to breed mare in 2016. This year didn't work out, but oh well. I think she would be a good cross on ASOF, from what I've heard, but am not sure. I have also heard his fees going up in 2016, and I heard it from the James Ranch, although I don't know what to. So I wanted to see what you guys thought would be a good cross on her.
She's about 14.2 hh (depending on if she has shoes on or not, LOL) fairly short backed, nice, nice disposition (one of those horses you can stick anyone on and not worry about them getting hurt), but a little head strong and stubborn, but we get along good. Here's her pedigree: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/reds+foxxe+lady+bug I'll attach a pretty good side photo so you can see how she is built. She is slightly cowhocked on the back, but has yet to cause any issues. She's not fast fast, but she can really get down and boogie around the barrels...she turns SOOO tight.
Personally would prefer to cross her on something more speed bred, but with a good attitude/easy to work with. I'd like to budget around $3000 stud fee and shipping, plus vet fees, but less is always welcome. Color's a plus, but not a must, and I'm not worried about size as...if I had another horse Pebbles' size (that's my mare) but could run I'd be happy. Thanks in advance!
ETA: If it is a colt, it will likely be sold, but if a filly it will be a keeper.
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Take a good look at Fulton's junior stallion A Dash Ta Streak. We bred to him this year rather then ASOF. He has a great pedigree, his Dam is and was a heck of a mare, he's got the color, and he is better balanced and ( straight from the horses mouth) better minded then his sire, ASOF. |
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       Location: Montana | ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 12:17 PM Take a good look at Fulton's junior stallion A Dash Ta Streak. We bred to him this year rather then ASOF. He has a great pedigree, his Dam is and was a heck of a mare, he's got the color, and he is better balanced and ( straight from the horses mouth) better minded then his sire, ASOF. I like your idea, thank you! I looked him up and it says frozen semen only...does that have the same motility or is a special process required? Not as familiar with that.
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         Location: Where I am happiest | mtcanchazer - 2015-06-27 2:16 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 12:17 PM Take a good look at Fulton's junior stallion A Dash Ta Streak. We bred to him this year rather then ASOF. He has a great pedigree, his Dam is and was a heck of a mare, he's got the color, and he is better balanced and ( straight from the horses mouth) better minded then his sire, ASOF. I like your idea, thank you! I looked him up and it says frozen semen only...does that have the same motility or is a special process required? Not as familiar with that.
It depends on if he's at James ranch or not at the time. We were prepared for frozen, but they said we could have cooled when we shipped so did that. He shipped really well and it only took one shipment and we were confirmed in foal. |
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       Location: Montana | ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 6:33 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-06-27 2:16 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 12:17 PM Take a good look at Fulton's junior stallion A Dash Ta Streak. We bred to him this year rather then ASOF. He has a great pedigree, his Dam is and was a heck of a mare, he's got the color, and he is better balanced and ( straight from the horses mouth) better minded then his sire, ASOF. I like your idea, thank you! I looked him up and it says frozen semen only...does that have the same motility or is a special process required? Not as familiar with that. It depends on if he's at James ranch or not at the time. We were prepared for frozen, but they said we could have cooled when we shipped so did that. He shipped really well and it only took one shipment and we were confirmed in foal.
Good to know! Thank you...it would probably be through the James Ranch as that is where I understand they want that type of inquiry directed to. |
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     Location: Texas | we are hoping to breed out Jet of Honor daughter to ASOF next year. I am going to try and breed one of my mares next year that I run but not sure how I am going to do that.. but I really like Corona Caliente and if I can afford the ET will try to ET Lucy to him.
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        Location: Carpenter, WY | I'm really interested in Tres My Fame. Young and unproven but by Tres Seis out of a Dash Ta Fame daughter on the bottomside http://treasurestatequarterhorses.com/tres_my_fame.html
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       Location: Montana | Teehaha: Tres My Fame is right in my backyard! Maybe he'll go on the list. :)
As far as the frozen goes, I'm just not familiar with the process. We have a local vet with a very good recommendation for AI that I plan on using.
I'm really looking for ideas as my idea was ASOF, but there are SOOO many studs out there, and good ones, I can't possibly know them all. |
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        Location: Carpenter, WY | mtcanchazer - 2015-06-28 10:10 AM Teehaha: Tres My Fame is right in my backyard! Maybe he'll go on the list. :)
As far as the frozen goes, I'm just not familiar with the process. We have a local vet with a very good recommendation for AI that I plan on using.
I'm really looking for ideas as my idea was ASOF, but there are SOOO many studs out there, and good ones, I can't possibly know them all.
I knew he must be close to you. If you go and check him out would appreciate your feedback. I just love that pedigree 
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would be checking out Slim Fittin Jeans love his pedigree and looks he was a very handsome fella, ask teehaha about him. I think that she does have his semen. And another BB on here is LRQHS El Scorcho he's another one that I really like and another handsome fella cant go wrong with his breeding. |
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       Location: Montana | Southtxponygirl - 2015-06-28 10:57 AM I would be checking out Slim Fittin Jeans love his pedigree and looks he was a very handsome fella, ask teehaha about him. I think that she does have his semen. And another BB on here is LRQHS
El Scorcho he's another one that I really like and another handsome fella cant go wrong with his breeding.
I knew Jennifer has El Scorcho, but didn't know if she shipped or not. I'll ask her. :) Slim Fittin Jeans would be nice too. :) |
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   Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | Firewater Ta Fame!! He is soooo nice. I have a weanling and a yearling by him. He is absolutely gorgeous in person. He puts his great disposition on all of his babies. |
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    Location: Missouri | I got a deal that I couldn't pass up on this guy: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sizzlin+red+corona (Fishers Dash x Corona Wild, full sister to Corona Chick -- dam of Corona Cash and Corona Cartel.) I didn't really know what I was doing when I agreed to the breeding, but I couldn't be more excited about the foal now! He's has three track records in Canada and his offspring are doing well on the track, too. I saw him in person and liked him more than his photo. He seemed kind and well-mannered. He's in Oklahoma now.
Oooh!!! And my yearling by Mr Jess Charger (who used to be in MT, but now in Canada) is a dream!!! Love her! Sweet personality and plenty of run... but, she's not very big.
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       Location: SE Missouri | just4fun - 2015-06-29 10:12 AM
I got a deal that I couldn't pass up on this guy: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sizzlin+red+corona(Fishers Dash x Corona Wild, full sister to Corona Chick -- dam of Corona Cash and Corona Cartel. ) I didn't really know what I was doing when I agreed to the breeding, but I couldn't be more excited about the foal now! He's has three track records in Canada and his offspring are doing well on the track, too. I saw him in person and liked him more than his photo. He seemed kind and well-mannered. He's in Oklahoma now. Oooh!!! And my yearling by Mr Jess Charger (who used to be in MT, but now in Canada ) is a dream!!! Love her! Sweet personality and plenty of run... but, she's not very big. Just some thoughts... Good luck in your search!!!
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    Location: Missouri | abrooks - 2015-06-29 10:15 AM just4fun - 2015-06-29 10:12 AM I got a deal that I couldn't pass up on this guy: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sizzlin+red+corona
(Fishers Dash x Corona Wild, full sister to Corona Chick -- dam of Corona Cash and Corona Cartel. ) I didn't really know what I was doing when I agreed to the breeding, but I couldn't be more excited about the foal now!
He's has three track records in Canada and his offspring are doing well on the track, too. I saw him in person and liked him more than his photo. He seemed kind and well-mannered. He's in Oklahoma now.
Oooh!!! And my yearling by Mr Jess Charger (who used to be in MT, but now in Canada ) is a dream!!! Love her! Sweet personality and plenty of run... but, she's not very big.
Just some thoughts... Good luck in your search!!!
Boy, he looks nice.
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I will say, the more you ask about stallions, and the more sudgestions you get and the more you look at the list will only grow. There are a TON of nice stallions. And i like to book early, you sometmes get a bit of a discount or get this years price before it goes up for next year.
Another one thats really nice and has a great mind (asside from all the ones mentoned already) is The Card shark 229 he's a AAA son of special leader out of a streakin six daughter. They dont ship on him and im not sure where you are but he's a nice boy.
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| casualdust07 - 2015-06-28 9:17 AM
we are hoping to breed out Jet of Honor daughter to ASOF next year. I am going to try and breed one of my mares next year that I run but not sure how I am going to do that.. but I really like Corona Caliente and if I can afford the ET will try to ET Lucy to him.
Then I have my Stoli mare who I am not sure what to do with next year. She's in foal to slick by design for a 2016 baby. She has had a first down french and a firewater ta fame so far.
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| What about Aint Seen Nothing Yet. We bred a mare to him this year and very excited to see what we get next year. He is stunning!
We took our mare to La Salle Vet Clinic in Kalispell, MT. Semen was shipped from Wyoming.
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       Location: Montana | Coop - 2015-06-29 12:22 PM Just looking at her conformation, ASOF would not be my pick. In no way am I saying your mare has poor conformation, I just don't think he would be the ideal cross on her...
I would lean more towards something like Firewater Ta Fame (he's gorgeous and his get have been winning quite a bit) or possibly Judge Cash (depending on your budget) or a Tres Seis son. Thank you, this is exactly what I'd like to hear because as the owner of my mare, I'm biased, LOL! If I could get Judge Cash on special (like they do for the NFR and things like that) he may be in my budget. Great to know about Tres Seis sons, as one is in my backyard practically that's on my list, and has a nice dam's side too, although he's unproven.
I know my mare doesn't have perfect conformation, but she is good, and stocky, and sound. Things I would improve on her is speed and her feet...pretty good feet but, in the summer when it is hot and dry they crack and chip, so I keep her shod in the summer if I'm using her hard.
Kalispell is too far for me to go for AI, but thanks for the idea! :) There is one in Great Falls I've had recommended to me that I'll probably go with. Aint Seen Nothin Yet is on my long list, but not sure with the FG how it would cross on my mare. I am not concerned about temperament with the cross, but speed, although I know he is out of a DTF daughter, and FG and DTF seem to be a magic cross.
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Here's what I have coming for 2016 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/16+lsof+x+jm+draw+straws ..
I'm so happy with my other LSOF filly that it's hard not to go right back to him every year..
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | Streaking ta Fame is pretty awesome. I like Fly the Red Eye too. Pappasito is another one I would consider or maybe On a Gator, Eddie Stinson, or Lion's Share of Fame. There's a ton of nice DTF sons who can throw you some speed with turn. |
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       Location: Montana | oija - 2015-06-30 9:10 AM Streaking ta Fame is pretty awesome. I like Fly the Red Eye too. Pappasito is another one I would consider or maybe On a Gator, Eddie Stinson, or Lion's Share of Fame. There's a ton of nice DTF sons who can throw you some speed with turn.
I've been looking at quite a few sons of DTF, as I would like that cross, and sons of daughter's of DTF.
Here's a junior sire that hasn't proven himself yet, as his first foals I think will hit the ground in 2016 but has a strong maternal (out of a daughter of DTF) and paternal line (out of Tres Seis): http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/tres+my+fame Is it worth the gamble breeding to an unproven stud that has awesome bloodlines, and from a ranch with a good reputation for producing good barrel horses? |
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | mtcanchazer - 2015-06-30 11:52 AM
oija - 2015-06-30 9:10 AM Streaking ta Fame is pretty awesome. I like Fly the Red Eye too. Pappasito is another one I would consider or maybe On a Gator, Eddie Stinson, or Lion's Share of Fame. There's a ton of nice DTF sons who can throw you some speed with turn.
I've been looking at quite a few sons of DTF, as I would like that cross, and sons of daughter's of DTF.
Here's a junior sire that hasn't proven himself yet, as his first foals I think will hit the ground in 2016 but has a strong maternal (out of a daughter of DTF) and paternal line (out of Tres Seis): http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/tres+my+fame Is it worth the gamble breeding to an unproven stud that has awesome bloodlines, and from a ranch with a good reputation for producing good barrel horses?
Absolutely! Those are solid lines. I did really well when I gambled on Scrutinizer! |
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       Location: Montana | oija - 2015-06-30 11:02 AM
Just wanted to say there are smart gambles and bad ones. That's a smart one.
Thanks for the input! Teehaha mentioned Tres My Fame, and someone else mentioned breeding to a son of Tres Seis as a good cross for my mare, so I'm definitely leaning that way, proven or not as I think he'll probably produce pretty nice babies. :) |
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| scwebster - 2015-06-30 9:24 AM
trulyaroyaljem13 - 2015-06-29 3:37 PM What about Aint Seen Nothing Yet. We bred a mare to him this year and very excited to see what we get next year. He is stunning!  We took our mare to La Salle Vet Clinic in Kalispell, MT. Semen was shipped from Wyoming.
He IS stunning! I hope his babies perform as well as they look. That could be dangerous.
Yes it could be! the mare we bred to him is by Mountains Majesty (full brother to Stoli) and out of daughter of Special Leader.  |
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| Im from Canada and with the US dollar being so good......you could try breeding to LDS Unleashed. Ive bred to him 5 times and got amazing babies.
They ship semen into the states and his stud fee is only $1000. Look him up on www.allbreedpedigree.com
He is son of Dash Ta Fame and out of Streaking Dash daughter.
They have a facebook page......Laye Ranch
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Im from Canada and with the US dollar being so good......you could try breeding to LDS Unleashed. Ive bred to him 5 times and got amazing babies.
They ship semen into the states and his stud fee is only $1000. Look him up on www.allbreedpedigree.com
He is son of Dash Ta Fame and out of Streaking Dash daughter.
They have a facebook page......Laye Ranch
Hes really nice too! My roan cutting breed mare is in foal to him right now ..... I can not wait to see what they produce. Come on 2016!!!
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       Location: Montana | della - 2015-06-30 9:10 PM trulyaroyaljem13 - 2015-06-30 2:39 PM Im from Canada and with the US dollar being so good......you could try breeding to LDS Unleashed. Ive bred to him 5 times and got amazing babies. They ship semen into the states and his stud fee is only $1000. Look him up on www.allbreedpedigree.com He is son of Dash Ta Fame and out of Streaking Dash daughter. They have a facebook page......Laye Ranch Hes really nice too! My roan cutting breed mare is in foal to him right now ..... I can not wait to see what they produce. Come on 2016!!! And Marci and Bill are absolutely fantastic people to deal with, I cant say enfough good things about the and thier boy!
How difficult is it to get that kind of thing across the line? Thanks for the idea, by the way. :) |
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| della - 2015-06-30 10:10 PM
trulyaroyaljem13 - 2015-06-30 2:39 PM
Im from Canada and with the US dollar being so good......you could try breeding to LDS Unleashed. Ive bred to him 5 times and got amazing babies.
They ship semen into the states and his stud fee is only $1000. Look him up on www.allbreedpedigree.com
He is son of Dash Ta Fame and out of Streaking Dash daughter.
They have a facebook page......Laye Ranch
Hes really nice too! My roan cutting breed mare is in foal to him right now ..... I can not wait to see what they produce. Come on 2016!!!
And Marci and Bill are absolutely fantastic people to deal with, I cant say enfough good things about the and thier boy!
yes i know them and they are awesome people. and the offspring i have gotten are nothing short of amazing! Very good looking too! And super athletes.  |
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| mtcanchazer - 2015-06-30 10:38 PM
della - 2015-06-30 9:10 PM trulyaroyaljem13 - 2015-06-30 2:39 PM Im from Canada and with the US dollar being so good......you could try breeding to LDS Unleashed. Ive bred to him 5 times and got amazing babies. They ship semen into the states and his stud fee is only $1000. Look him up on www.allbreedpedigree.com He is son of Dash Ta Fame and out of Streaking Dash daughter. They have a facebook page......Laye Ranch Hes really nice too! My roan cutting breed mare is in foal to him right now ..... I can not wait to see what they produce. Come on 2016!!! And Marci and Bill are absolutely fantastic people to deal with, I cant say enfough good things about the and thier boy!
How difficult is it to get that kind of thing across the line? Thanks for the idea, by the way. :)
I actually dont think its difficult at all from Canada to US. More difficult for us to get from the US. Inquire to Marci and ask her.......she will know. Tell her Shelley told you about him! :) |
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       Location: Montana | So, anyone have an opinion how Amy's stud Firewater Finale would cross on my mare? I have heard so many good things about him and about Amy with breeding to mares. :) Tres My Fame is still on the list too, just looking at all options. :) May consider Famous Charmer, but he looks like he has an awful short back for my mare, JMO. Opinions on that too would be great! |
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       Location: Montana | lindseylou2290 - 2015-08-13 7:25 PM To be super honest ... Dazzler was my first thought when I saw your mare! I'd breed her to him. Those Firewater Flit horses are super minded and he's out of a Bully Bullion mare that held her own too.
I am also biased and planning to breed my cow bred to him this next year
ETA - Call or message Amy ... she's super easy to talk to!
Thanks, I've liked him for a long time, but once again I think I'm finally going to be able to breed my mare (things didn't work out this year, but that wasn't my mare's fault...life got in the way). Biggest decision is picking the stud, LOL. |
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   Location: Texas | Royal and Famous is a 1D stallion. Ran the fastest time of the OKC Derby Finals 2014.Kelly's Chick 2014 NFR qualifier and Stoli My Guy whom needs no introduction are both breeding to Royal and Famous in 2015. He placed in the 1D at Waco at the ANHA and Jud Little Barrel Bash. Roy recently was 2nd at his first pro rodeo only Andria Cline on Moses bested us by a tenth. His dam Go Royal Scarlett LTE $300,000+3 time NFR qualifier has produced the horse that won the semi-finals qualifier at Mesquite and set the new arena record at OKC Derby with a 14.8. Royal Star Commander ridden by Erin Ricotti. His full sister was on the cover of Barrel Horse News last year as well Famous Scarlett. His sire is Dash Ta Fame. He would be a clear choice for your breeding program for 2015! Top 40 at the 2014 qualifier in Glen Rose outrunning the likes of The Red Dasher and JL Dash Ta Heaven. $1250
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    Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | trulyaroyaljem13 - 2015-06-29 2:28 PM
casualdust07 - 2015-06-28 9:17 AM
we are hoping to breed out Jet of Honor daughter to ASOF next year. I am going to try and breed one of my mares next year that I run but not sure how I am going to do that.. but I really like Corona Caliente and if I can afford the ET will try to ET Lucy to him.
Then I have my Stoli mare who I am not sure what to do with next year. She's in foal to slick by design for a 2016 baby. She has had a first down french and a firewater ta fame so far.
Have you seen any babies from Corona Caliente? I would love to breed to him as well! 
I like Corona Caliente. Ive seen a few of his foals run and they seem like pretty nice barrel horses.
Its esp a plus since hes a Future fortunes stud now.
I tried to contact them via email and havent heard anything back in a week or so now. Guess its time to call!
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I really like Streaking Ta Fame. A friend of mine has a gorg FSTV baby this year.
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        Location: Carpenter, WY | mtcanchazer - 2015-08-13 11:13 AM So, anyone have an opinion how Amy's stud Firewater Finale would cross on my mare? I have heard so many good things about him and about Amy with breeding to mares. :) Tres My Fame is still on the list too, just looking at all options. :) May consider Famous Charmer, but he looks like he has an awful short back for my mare, JMO. Opinions on that too would be great!
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    Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | barrelracr131 - 2015-08-14 6:30 AM
El Scorcho is awesome (I'm picking up one of his colts next month. SQUEEEE), but I'm not sure she will be standing him to outside mares next year. You'd have to ask Jennifer.
I really like Streaking Ta Fame. A friend of mine has a gorg FSTV baby this year.
I also very very much like the John Fame filly I saw. She was absolutely stunning. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204036570571371&set=o.201108020066449&type=1
LOVE JOHN FAME! Saw him in person this last May and MAN O MAN what a good looking guy. and his babies are REALLY performers! I have 2 Due for next April I Couldn't be more excited!
I ALSO have a Streaking Ta Fame foal due in May out of my Pritzi Dash Daughter. Another one i'm over the moon about!
I tried to breed my Meter Me GOne daughter to STF as well, but that mare didnt want to cycle right when it got hot. So next year I will catch her!
I've been wanting some DTF bred horses and Now I'll have THREE due for 2016! Needless to say I'm pretty excited about it all! |
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    Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | I also wanted to add that with Kelsey Lutjen owning two John Fames, I'm excited to see where he will go as a sire.
One is out of a Fire Water FLit daughter the other a Proudest effort. |
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    Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-15 10:40 AM
barrelracr131 - 2015-08-14 6:30 AM
El Scorcho is awesome (I'm picking up one of his colts next month. SQUEEEE), but I'm not sure she will be standing him to outside mares next year. You'd have to ask Jennifer.
I really like Streaking Ta Fame. A friend of mine has a gorg FSTV baby this year.
I also very very much like the John Fame filly I saw. She was absolutely stunning. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204036570571371&set=o.201108020066449&type=1
LOVE JOHN FAME! Saw him in person this last May and MAN O MAN what a good looking guy. and his babies are REALLY performers! I have 2 Due for next April I Couldn't be more excited!
I ALSO have a Streaking Ta Fame foal due in May out of my Pritzi Dash Daughter. Another one i'm over the moon about!
I tried to breed my Meter Me GOne daughter to STF as well, but that mare didnt want to cycle right when it got hot. So next year I will catch her!
I've been wanting some DTF bred horses and Now I'll have THREE due for 2016! Needless to say I'm pretty excited about it all!
I also have a John Fame foal coming next year! Very excited for next May to get here! Mine is out of a cutting bred mare
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | barrelracr131 - 2015-08-14 7:30 AM
El Scorcho is awesome (I'm picking up one of his colts next month. SQUEEEE), but I'm not sure she will be standing him to outside mares next year. You'd have to ask Jennifer.
I really like Streaking Ta Fame. A friend of mine has a gorg FSTV baby this year.
I also very very much like the John Fame filly I saw. She was absolutely stunning. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204036570571371&set=o.201108020066449&type=1
Thanks, buddy. I can't wait to see you riding him. He's got his daddy's personality and very friendly. I think he will rock Indiana :) |
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| Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-15 12:43 PM I also wanted to add that with Kelsey Lutjen owning two John Fames, I'm excited to see where he will go as a sire. One is out of a Fire Water FLit daughter the other a Proudest effort.
Also sounds like she may be choosing Nickster for one of her Embryos in the spring  
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                      Location: Here | mtcanchazer - 2015-06-27 9:12 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 6:33 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-06-27 2:16 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 12:17 PM Take a good look at Fulton's junior stallion A Dash Ta Streak. We bred to him this year rather then ASOF. He has a great pedigree, his Dam is and was a heck of a mare, he's got the color, and he is better balanced and ( straight from the horses mouth) better minded then his sire, ASOF. I like your idea, thank you! I looked him up and it says frozen semen only...does that have the same motility or is a special process required? Not as familiar with that. It depends on if he's at James ranch or not at the time. We were prepared for frozen, but they said we could have cooled when we shipped so did that. He shipped really well and it only took one shipment and we were confirmed in foal. Good to know! Thank you...it would probably be through the James Ranch as that is where I understand they want that type of inquiry directed to.
I think what she meant is the stallion is sometimes away competing. So at those times Frozen is used. He is a very nice stallion and you can't go wrong with anything from James Ranch I am in love with First Timber. I have one of his coming next year. He would give your mare some run. |
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    Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | hank520 - 2015-08-15 10:16 PM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-15 10:40 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-08-14 6:30 AM El Scorcho is awesome (I'm picking up one of his colts next month. SQUEEEE), but I'm not sure she will be standing him to outside mares next year. You'd have to ask Jennifer.
I really like Streaking Ta Fame. A friend of mine has a gorg FSTV baby this year.
I also very very much like the John Fame filly I saw. She was absolutely stunning.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204036570571371&set=o.201108020066449&type=1 LOVE JOHN FAME! Saw him in person this last May and MAN O MAN what a good looking guy. and his babies are REALLY performers! I have 2 Due for next April I Couldn't be more excited! I ALSO have a Streaking Ta Fame foal due in May out of my Pritzi Dash Daughter. Another one i'm over the moon about! I tried to breed my Meter Me GOne daughter to STF as well, but that mare didnt want to cycle right when it got hot. So next year I will catch her! I've been wanting some DTF bred horses and Now I'll have THREE due for 2016! Needless to say I'm pretty excited about it all! I also have a John Fame foal coming next year! Very excited for next May to get here! Mine is out of a cutting bred mare http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/miss+pay+to+play
WOOOO! I really like that cross on her. Nice little pedigree your mare has! The two i have coming is from a Strawflyin buds daughter and the other one is the paint mare in my photo to the left. She's Cow/ halter/rope pedigree, but was a nice solid 2 D mare when i just started running her on the barrels.
His babies seem really consistent, so im excited at the chance of having 1.
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       Location: Montana | SG. - 2015-08-19 12:25 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-06-27 9:12 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 6:33 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-06-27 2:16 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 12:17 PM Take a good look at Fulton's junior stallion A Dash Ta Streak. We bred to him this year rather then ASOF. He has a great pedigree, his Dam is and was a heck of a mare, he's got the color, and he is better balanced and ( straight from the horses mouth) better minded then his sire, ASOF. I like your idea, thank you! I looked him up and it says frozen semen only...does that have the same motility or is a special process required? Not as familiar with that. It depends on if he's at James ranch or not at the time. We were prepared for frozen, but they said we could have cooled when we shipped so did that. He shipped really well and it only took one shipment and we were confirmed in foal. Good to know! Thank you...it would probably be through the James Ranch as that is where I understand they want that type of inquiry directed to. I think what she meant is the stallion is sometimes away competing. So at those times Frozen is used.
He is a very nice stallion and you can't go wrong with anything from James Ranch
I am in love with First Timber. I have one of his coming next year. He would give your mare some run.
Okay, thanks for the explanation! I was thinking maybe they moved him between Fultonss and the James'. :-) |
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    Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-19 12:09 PM
hank520 - 2015-08-15 10:16 PM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-15 10:40 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-08-14 6:30 AM El Scorcho is awesome (I'm picking up one of his colts next month. SQUEEEE), but I'm not sure she will be standing him to outside mares next year. You'd have to ask Jennifer.
I really like Streaking Ta Fame. A friend of mine has a gorg FSTV baby this year.
I also very very much like the John Fame filly I saw. She was absolutely stunning.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204036570571371&set=o.201108020066449&type=1 LOVE JOHN FAME! Saw him in person this last May and MAN O MAN what a good looking guy. and his babies are REALLY performers! I have 2 Due for next April I Couldn't be more excited! I ALSO have a Streaking Ta Fame foal due in May out of my Pritzi Dash Daughter. Another one i'm over the moon about! I tried to breed my Meter Me GOne daughter to STF as well, but that mare didnt want to cycle right when it got hot. So next year I will catch her! I've been wanting some DTF bred horses and Now I'll have THREE due for 2016! Needless to say I'm pretty excited about it all! I also have a John Fame foal coming next year! Very excited for next May to get here! Mine is out of a cutting bred mare http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/miss+pay+to+play
WOOOO! I really like that cross on her. Nice little pedigree your mare has! The two i have coming is from a Strawflyin buds daughter and the other one is the paint mare in my photo to the left. She's Cow/ halter/rope pedigree, but was a nice solid 2 D mare when i just started running her on the barrels.
His babies seem really consistent, so im excited at the chance of having 1.
Cant wait to see yours next year!
I'm pretty excited for this foal as is my friend that I leased the mare from! Mare is a nice barrel horse herself. Should be an awesome cross! |
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SG. - 2015-08-19 12:25 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-06-27 9:12 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 6:33 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-06-27 2:16 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 12:17 PM Take a good look at Fulton's junior stallion A Dash Ta Streak. We bred to him this year rather then ASOF. He has a great pedigree, his Dam is and was a heck of a mare, he's got the color, and he is better balanced and ( straight from the horses mouth) better minded then his sire, ASOF. I like your idea, thank you! I looked him up and it says frozen semen only...does that have the same motility or is a special process required? Not as familiar with that. It depends on if he's at James ranch or not at the time. We were prepared for frozen, but they said we could have cooled when we shipped so did that. He shipped really well and it only took one shipment and we were confirmed in foal. Good to know! Thank you...it would probably be through the James Ranch as that is where I understand they want that type of inquiry directed to. I think what she meant is the stallion is sometimes away competing. So at those times Frozen is used.
He is a very nice stallion and you can't go wrong with anything from James Ranch
I am in love with First Timber. I have one of his coming next year. He would give your mare some run.
Okay, thanks for the explanation! I was thinking maybe they moved him between Fultonss and the James'. :-)
I had two super 2015 babies this year by A DASH TA STREAK ... both sold so quick it was crazy .... a gray/bay roan colt and a peach colored filly with white body hairs ...
ADTS started training for 5 yo futurities and will be MIA all of 2016 breeding season so they are using frozen semen in 2016...
There are 5 of his babies listed in the up coming Fulton and CSR Ranch sale in August ...
catalogue is online at Fulton Ranch FB or net site ...
I may have sold mine too cheap ...
free live auction streaming video too ...
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       Location: Montana | BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-08-21 2:18 AM
mtcanchazer - 2015-08-19 2:44 PM
SG. - 2015-08-19 12:25 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-06-27 9:12 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 6:33 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-06-27 2:16 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-06-27 12:17 PM Take a good look at Fulton's junior stallion A Dash Ta Streak. We bred to him this year rather then ASOF. He has a great pedigree, his Dam is and was a heck of a mare, he's got the color, and he is better balanced and ( straight from the horses mouth) better minded then his sire, ASOF. I like your idea, thank you! I looked him up and it says frozen semen only...does that have the same motility or is a special process required? Not as familiar with that. It depends on if he's at James ranch or not at the time. We were prepared for frozen, but they said we could have cooled when we shipped so did that. He shipped really well and it only took one shipment and we were confirmed in foal. Good to know! Thank you...it would probably be through the James Ranch as that is where I understand they want that type of inquiry directed to. I think what she meant is the stallion is sometimes away competing. So at those times Frozen is used.
He is a very nice stallion and you can't go wrong with anything from James Ranch
I am in love with First Timber. I have one of his coming next year. He would give your mare some run.
Okay, thanks for the explanation! I was thinking maybe they moved him between Fultonss and the James'. :-)
I had two super 2015 babies this year by A DASH TA STREAK ... both sold so quick it was crazy .... a gray/bay roan colt and a peach colored filly with white body hairs ...
ADTS started training for 5 yo futurities and will be MIA all of 2016 breeding season so they are using frozen semen in 2016...
There are 5 of his babies listed in the up coming Fulton and CSR Ranch sale in August ...
catalogue is online at Fulton Ranch FB or net site ...
I may have sold mine too cheap ...
free live auction streaming video too ...
Thanks for the advice, and good information to know! Like I said in an earlier post, if it's a filly I want to keep it, but a colt I want to sell, so that's some great info. |
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     Location: Alabama | I'm bumping this up for more suggestions! I am looking for a unicorn. I've got a cow bred mare I would like to breed to a future fortunes stallion who does not have frenchmans guy or dash for cash in their immediate pedigree. :) |
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    Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | Sockittoemred - 2015-08-22 3:36 PM
I'm bumping this up for more suggestions! I am looking for a unicorn. I've got a cow bred mare I would like to breed to a future fortunes stallion who does not have frenchmans guy or dash for cash in their immediate pedigree. :)
We a need a little more info than that your mare is cowbred and you dont want FG or DFC.
PIctures, Pedigree, what does she need some help with maybe disposition or running style ( IE Rate or speed).
If you want to pick that perfect cross on her you dont just go eeny meeny miney moe. ( Well I guess you could)
My other suggetion is if you ONLY want a Future FOrtunes stallion. Go to the future fortunes website and look at their stallion list. it has all of their enrolled studs listed. Most have pictures. FInd one that floats your boat. |
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     Location: Alabama | Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-22 6:30 PM
Sockittoemred - 2015-08-22 3:36 PM
I'm bumping this up for more suggestions! I am looking for a unicorn. I've got a cow bred mare I would like to breed to a future fortunes stallion who does not have frenchmans guy or dash for cash in their immediate pedigree. :)
We a need a little more info than that your mare is cowbred and you dont want FG or DFC.
PIctures, Pedigree, what does she need some help with maybe dis position or running style ( IE Rate or speed ).
If you want to pick that perfect cross on her you dont just go eeny meeny miney moe. ( Well I guess you could )
My other suggetion is if you ONLY want a Future FOrtunes stallion. Go to the future fortunes website and look at their stallion list. it has all of their enrolled studs listed. Most have pictures. FInd one that floats your boat.
Her babies are ratey. Otherwise straight and correct. She is about 14.3-15h straight and correct. Could use a little refinement to the neck area although her babies have always had a nice neck. She is a very feminine boned mare. I wouldn't mine putting some more bone and bigger feet on her foals. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pockets+too+deep Here is her pedigree. She has only been bred to a cow bred stud prior to my buying her this year. (Dulin gunx peppy San x doc tari) She has produced a couple real nice rope horses and one nice barrel mare that a good friend owns. |
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       Location: Montana | Added 8-22-15: Soooo, I think because ASOF went up so much this year, I'm going to step back and go with something a little more affordable for a stud choice for my mare. My personal 2 choices are...drum roll please Firewater Finale http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/firewater+finale Aint Seen Nothin Yet http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/aint+seen+nothin+yet
Big question, which of the 2 would cross best on my mare to get a barrel prospect? I'm hoping to get a blond filly, but that's part of the fun of the gamble. :) |
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    Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | mtcanchazer - 2015-08-22 11:17 PM
Added 8-22-15: Soooo, I think because ASOF went up so much this year, I'm going to step back and go with something a little more affordable for a stud choice for my mare. My personal 2 choices are...drum roll please Firewater Finale http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/firewater+finaleAint Seen Nothin Yet http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/aint+seen+nothin+yetBig question, which of the 2 would cross best on my mare to get a barrel prospect? I'm hoping to get a blond filly, but that's part of the fun of the gamble. :)
I'd go with FireWater FInale.
I believe both are about the same stud fee if i remember right. and he'll give you more bang for your buck.
Proven Performer, I believe he IS a proven sire already. if not he will be. Amy has done SOOO many ETs on OUTSTANDING mares. Daughters of Tres Seis, DTF, FWF, Ivory James, FG) .
When a stud owner puts that much work into getting phenomenal babies on the ground you have a great chance to have a valuable foal in the future.
and if even if youre not planning on resale. Its a great thing to keep in mind"Just in case" |
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     Location: On top of a Hill, WA | Firewater Finale!
My two year old is NICE! Super sensible and built. Great bone, feet, and he's gorgeous! Looks just like dad!
Ive been looking to get my hands on another one...and let me tell you, they are hard to find! Keep me on the short list if you end up with a colt! |
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | Sockittoem what about Fire On Bug. He's by Firewater Flit and out of a nice Shawne Bug daughter. Not one bit of FG or DFC. |
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       Location: Montana | Awesome guys! That is what I was thinking too. I've liked him for a long time, but finally have a chance to breed. :) I love the look of Bully Bullion horses (to me they just have a "look" about them, as do Firewater Flit's) so I was leaning that way any ways. Thanks much for the input!!
Oobkeep, I'll keep you in mind if it is a colt. :)
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       Location: Georgia | Out of those two, I would definitely go with Firewater Finale. No question. I'm not impressed with ASNY. Just personal preference. I always like to throw sorrel on a colored stud and see if I still like them. LOL. FF is a great choice! |
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    Location: Midwest | LRQHS - 2015-08-16 2:58 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-08-14 7:30 AM El Scorcho is awesome (I'm picking up one of his colts next month. SQUEEEE), but I'm not sure she will be standing him to outside mares next year. You'd have to ask Jennifer.
I really like Streaking Ta Fame. A friend of mine has a gorg FSTV baby this year.
I also very very much like the John Fame filly I saw. She was absolutely stunning.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204036570571371&set=o.201108020066449&type=1 Thanks, buddy. I can't wait to see you riding him. He's got his daddy's personality and very friendly. I think he will rock Indiana : )
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       Location: Windy Wyoming | Runninbay - 2015-08-23 8:49 PM
Out of those two, I would definitely go with Firewater Finale. No question. I'm not impressed with ASNY. Just personal preference. I always like to throw sorrel on a colored stud and see if I still like them. LOL. FF is a great choice!
So sorry to hear you are not impressed with our stallion, can't please everyone. OP Thank you for considering ASNY, for your mare. His foal crops are very young and his very first foal to be born is a multiple check and buckle winner with NFR trainer Kari Dawn Johnson this year! We are very excited about his future as a sire and his upcoming babies. |
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