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| She's been a debate since birth just curious what she's looking like to others with a fresh perspective! She is fully shed out.
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Location: Lost in the swamps | Does she have any tipping (black points)on the ears, I don't see any on the legs, got me scratching my head?
She is a bit faded, but her darker areas make me wanna say maybe a liver chestnut?
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| I'm just guessing liver chestnut chocolate palimino. I'm scathing my head too?? |
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Location: Montana | Does she have a dorsel stripe (can't tell from pic) as she looks like a red dun to me. |
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| imturnin3 - 2015-07-01 7:32 PM
Does she have any tipping (black points)on the ears, I don't see any on the legs, got me scratching my head?
She is a bit faded, but her darker areas make me wanna say maybe a liver chestnut?
Know what the parents grand parents are?
No black points her legs have a red tint that makes me think liver too but the golden color and the chocolate head don't seem to go lol and where she's not bleached her mane and tail are jet black. Her dam is sorrel the one in my profile pic( her dam was a red dun her sire sorrel)and her sire is a very sooty buckskin (out of a bay by a palomino) |
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Location: Memphis, TN | I am guessing smoky black given colors of sire and dam |
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Location: SE Louisiana | That's a red horse. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | She looks like a washed out Grulla to me. |
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Location: So. California | She might have that Champagne or silver color gene... Champagne will dilute black points to brown.. interesting color. What color are her dam/sire?
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This is her sire just shared this since you can see multiple photos dam is the sorrel in my profile pic |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Southtxponygirl - 2015-07-01 10:29 PM
She looks like a washed out Grulla to me.
Quit looking in the mirror and focus on the computer screen... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | komet. - 2015-07-01 11:04 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-07-01 10:29 PM She looks like a washed out Grulla to me. Quit looking in the mirror and focus on the computer screen...
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Location: Arkansas | Oh Lord I almost swallowed my corn nuts. . . Too fuuny |
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Location: Arkansas | She's cute as can be--I love the ones with interesting colors you can't quite figure out. My mare is black, but right now she has black head and legs and hind quarters and then STPG's washed out grulla look everywhere else! Which is not too much darker than your girl here. . . |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Southtxponygirl - 2015-07-01 11:07 PM
komet. - 2015-07-01 11:04 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-07-01 10:29 PM She looks like a washed out Grulla to me. Quit looking in the mirror and focus on the computer screen...
FINALLY!!! You picked up on my sense of humor!!! |
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Location: NC | Sorta reminds me of my mare. She is registered as a chestnut so I just tell people she is liver chestnut. she gets really dark in the winter but then sheds out and bleaches out to about the same tanish color as your filly is. I will see if I can find some pictures...
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | sooty chestnut is my vote...
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Location: Carpenter, WY | I'd call her a dirty buckskin. I have a similiar mare that was out of a grulla and by a buckskin and has every shade of brown and gold on her you could imagine. |
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| I am having a heck of a time getting her registered because AQHA can't tell what color she is. I just sent off new photos so we will see what they say! |
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Location: sunny california | pedigree? maybe champagne?
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Location: sunny california | that stallion has some funny colors in his background. a grullo and dun producing a palomino, but buckskin farther back. i have a feeling this guy has so much color mixed up in him that for generations they didn't really know what they had |
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Location: Memphis, TN | wishes4kissez - 2015-07-02 11:19 AM
I am having a heck of a time getting her registered because AQHA can't tell what color she is. I just sent off new photos so we will see what they say!
Do you have pictures of her when she was born? What color are her eyes? |
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Location: So. California | You can always send in mane/tail hairs to UC Davis for color testing.
I would include testing for Champagne... |
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| Anniemae - 2015-07-02 11:50 AM
You can always send in mane/tail hairs to UC Davis for color testing.
I would include testing for Champagne...
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| kwanatha - 2015-07-02 9:44 AM
that stallion has some fuonny colors in his background. a grullo and dun producing a palomino, but buckskin farther back. i have a feeling this guy has so much color mixed up in him that for generations they didn't really know what they had
I thought that was odd too but upon further research the grulla that produced the Pali was identified as a smokey grulla and produced other cream offspring out of non cream mares it's just that AQHA doesn't allow colors such as smokey grulla. His sire was a buckskin and dam a red dun so he must have been Ee Dd. I don't know if the Pali was actually a dunalino as they don't register as that either and I have never found a photo but I also haven't found any dun offspring. His sires side has been ranch horses for many generations and its older blood so how accurate things are I am not entirely certain. |
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| barrelracin85 - 2015-07-02 9:48 AM
wishes4kissez - 2015-07-02 11:19 AM
I am having a heck of a time getting her registered because AQHA can't tell what color she is. I just sent off new photos so we will see what they say!
Do you have pictures of her when she was born? What color are her eyes?
Yes here's a few her eyes were and still are a grayish color
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Location: Memphis, TN | wishes4kissez - 2015-07-02 7:05 PM
barrelracin85 - 2015-07-02 9:48 AM
wishes4kissez - 2015-07-02 11:19 AM
I am having a heck of a time getting her registered because AQHA can't tell what color she is. I just sent off new photos so we will see what they say!
Do you have pictures of her when she was born? What color are her eyes?
Yes here's a few her eyes were and still are a grayish color
Okay so now I don't feel crazy. I stand by smoky black. This Morgan mare looks identical to your filly and she is a smoky black with the silver gene. Possible your mare had a silver gene that she passed on. I would definitely have her tested so you know what she could produce if ever bred. The cream gene can dilute the black color making it appear more like a liver chestnut.
http://www.brookridgemorgans.com/2007filly.htm
also this is from the aqha website:
WHAT ARE THE COLOR GENETICS OF BLACK?
A BLACK horse must have at least one parent that is BLACK, BROWN, or a color with black points. BLACK horses will either carry one copy of the BLACK gene (represented as Ee, meaning that it also carries one copy of the recessive RED gene) or it will carry two copies of the BLACK gene (represented as EE, meaning that it carries the BLACK gene only with no recessive RED gene). Ee BLACK horses may produce a foal with no black points if bred to another Ee BLACK or if bred to a horse with no black points. However, EE BLACK horses will produce a solid BLACK foal or a foal with black points 100 percent of the time, regardless of the color of the other parent. (The RED FACTOR test can be performed where such a question occurs. Contact AQHA for more information.)
Some BLACKS have a PALOMINO or BUCKSKIN parent. In many cases, these BLACKS will also carry the CREAM DILUTION inherited from one of these parents. These BLACKS will then have the color genetics similar to BUCKSKINS and may produce any of the DOUBLE DILUTE foals if bred to a PALOMINO, BUCKSKIN, or parent known to carry the CREAM DILUTION. BLACKS carrying the CREAM DILUTION may be slightly diluted themselves, usually giving them a color more classified as BROWN. However, some diluted BLACKS will also have their points diluted from ‘true’ black to a brownish appearance, at times being confused with the color CHESTNUT.
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| I definitely thought smokey black at birth and was pretty sure till this winter when the legs went that reddish shade. The stud owner was adamant that she was grulla even though moms a sorrel and dads just a buckskin. Now we just don't know what to think lol. |
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Location: Arkansas | wishes4kissez - 2015-07-02 7:32 PM
I definitely thought smokey black at birth and was pretty sure till this winter when the legs went that reddish shade. The stud owner was adamant that she was grulla even though moms a sorrel and dads just a buckskin. Now we just don't know what to think lol.
I think she's a pretty girl and only gonna get prettier, no matter what color she finally ends up being!! |
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Just for fun what color is this filly (pic added now)
