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Location: Texas | Some of the comments i've seen lately are just... Wow
Some from people I respect too!
There needs to be a proper explanation on saddle fit.
How bits work.
What products/companies are scams.
How you enter rodeos.
How you find barrel races.
How to tell if your horse is sore.
What you do about the soreness
The difference between PHT & BOT
I'm sure there is many more as well..
I completely understand when people are asking questions and are truly curious to learn, but I just saw someone try to say the difference between pht and bot and the amount of false information in the comment could not have been any greater.
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| I agree 100%! I can't imagine how hard it is these days to start barrel racing without having a rodeo background. There is false information and bad advise everywhere!! Anyone have the time to write a book?! Lol |
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| I never really thought about knowing the difference between BOT and PHT as being important information for beginning barrel racers. Good point. |
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| outrundaizy - 2015-07-03 8:47 PM
Some of the comments i've seen lately are just... WowSome from people I respect too!
There needs to be a proper explanation on saddle fit.
How bits work.
What products/companies are scams.
How you enter rodeos.
How you find barrel races.
How to tell if your horse is sore.
What you do about the soreness
The difference between PHT & BOT
I'm sure there is many more as well..
I completely understand when people are asking questions and are truly curious to learn, but I just saw someone try to say the difference between pht and bot and the amount of false information in the comment could not have been any greater.
There's just so much to learn and so much that so many people don't know.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | We all started by asking questions and by trial and error, I'm always happy to answer a question if I can answer it for a beginner, I'm always learning something new |
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Location: Texas | streakysox - 2015-07-03 9:16 PM I never really thought about knowing the difference between BOT and PHT as being important information for beginning barrel racers. Good point.
Im not sure it's a necessity, im just shocked by how little people know about the products and still use them on their horses.. I think we should know what the different therapies do for the horse before using them and mixing them. I imagine if you use BOT & PHT together or in the wrong order it could seriously hurt a horse.
I also by no means think I know everything about barrel racing either, if someone who does wants to write a book I'd buy it! I think it would be really neat to see some pro's come together and write a book. Trainers, NFR girls, Futurity riders, Super show winners, etc. And then maybe a section from some of their parents and what they learned? I think it would be a great asset that would be cost efficient too. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Barrel Racing For Dummies. You folks should pool your knowledge and write this....We can let RWR spell-check it..
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| Kaycee - 2015-07-03 9:53 PM
There is a beginner's book, it's called- The internet.
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Location: Texas | There are lots of books & Internet sites. The problem is: 1) some people are too lazy to read. 2) barrel racing (& other horse events) is difficult to learn without a mentor. I learned from an older gentleman that taught me so many things that were probably not written anywhere. In exchange, I rode his horses, cleaned his stalls, groomed his horses, washed his truck & trailers, unloaded his feed & hay, etc. etc. etc. I am so grateful for that opportunity (about 5 years of my teenage life).
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| outrundaizy - 2015-07-03 8:47 PM
Some of the comments i've seen lately are just... WowSome from people I respect too!
There needs to be a proper explanation on saddle fit.
How bits work.
What products/companies are scams.
How you enter rodeos.
How you find barrel races.
How to tell if your horse is sore.
What you do about the soreness
The difference between PHT & BOT
I'm sure there is many more as well..
I completely understand when people are asking questions and are truly curious to learn, but I just saw someone try to say the difference between pht and bot and the amount of false information in the comment could not have been any greater.
There's just so much to learn and so much that so many people don't know.
I missed the misinformation on the pht or bot comments.
The problem is there are so many philosophies on each topic, no one is correct or wrong.
How bits work, if you go by Mylers philosophy the port needs to be 3" or more to hit the roof of the mouth and the port is for tongue relief. Talk to many barrel racers, any port will hit the roof.
Les Vogt philosophy is a chain bit is very harsh due to all the ridges and no relief. Talk to many barrel racers and a chain bit is soft as it conforms to the mouth.
How to tell if a horse is sore, this needs to be a discussion that rider has with their vet. My vet has taken me step by step on what to look for, what to feel for, so I can determine when my horse needs a vet assessment. Again not all vets are created equal, so some vets will pass a horse on a soundness exam, and others will fail the horse horribly.
Saddle fit there are also two philosophies to this as well, most saddle makers build the saddle to fit on the shoulder, Martin (possibly coats) design their saddle to fit behind the shoulder. You can tell by where the rigging is placed on the saddle.
What new horse owners, or any barrel racer should look at is the source of the information.
Written
The author
Credentials
Peer reviewed
Published in scholarly journals/texts
Not older then 3 yrs in journal
Not older then 10 in text
Research based, where are the clinical trials?
The limitations of the article
What does the author have to gain, are they selling the product, are they sponsored by the company who makes the product, any monetary gain?
Then look for similar articles on the same topic to prove or disprove the first.
Verbal
Same as the above
Also what is the individuals experience, if it is a product,
What was the experience positive or negative
Did they use the product as directed
How long did they use the product for
What are their credentials. Training, years of experience, continuing education
Then go back and try to find the literature to prove and disprove
This is all I can think of off the top of my head.
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| This isn't a pure 'chain bit' but I thought the description of this bit from Les Vogt was interesting
http://www.lesvogt.com/the-developer-a2/
He even says it is on the 'Milder end of the spectrum'
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Location: Gainesville, TX | americanpride08 - 2015-07-03 10:06 PM
So I started training with someone, taking lessons to improve my riding and start bug on the pattern. Beginner all the way around. She actually told me the swirls on a horses forehead indicated weather they were good horses or not. Two swirls smart and good. Three insane. One lazy... After that statement i honestly don't know if she's the right person to take lessons from...
O.o
Actually the whorl theory is an old one that a number of trainers put stock in. Personally I'm skeptical but it's not an unusual theory if you were worried. Here's an article that details most of it.
http://www.horsesciencenews.com/horse-behavior/temperament/hair-rev...
ETA: http://www.foxpointfarm.com/site/mobile?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxpoi...
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Location: Red Raiderland | streakysox - 2015-07-03 10:07 PM
Kaycee - 2015-07-03 9:53 PM
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| bennie1 - 2015-07-03 11:13 PM
This isn't a pure 'chain bit' but I thought the description of this bit from Les Vogt was interesting
http://www.lesvogt.com/the-developer-a2/
He even says it is on the 'Milder end of the spectrum'
From my understanding is this would be mild due to the tongue relief, there are only 2 links of chain per side, which may not even reach the tongue, they may only work on the bars.
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| Agree that there is a tremendous amount of information on the web and it is helpful and it has helped me tremendously as I do not have access to a trainer or barrel clinics. I do read as much as I can get my hands on but there are times when having someone eles's eyes would be great. My horse's tell me when something is not right and I am learning to have confidence in our communication. Charmayne James has some good books and I do nope to get Dena Kirkpatrick's DVD's soon .... this board is helpful as well...even though I don't ask a lot of questions now I do learn from those here willing to share their knowledge and experience. |
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| Agree that there is a tremendous amount of information on the web and it is helpful and it has helped me tremendously as I do not have access to a trainer or barrel clinics. I do read as much as I can get my hands on but there are times when having someone eles's eyes would be great. My horse's tell me when something is not right and I am learning to have confidence in our communication. Charmayne James has some good books and I do nope to get Dena Kirkpatrick's DVD's soon .... this board is helpful as well...even though I don't ask a lot of questions now I do learn from those here willing to share their knowledge and experience. |
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| Kaycee - 2015-07-03 11:27 PM streakysox - 2015-07-03 10:07 PM Kaycee - 2015-07-03 9:53 PM There is a beginner's book, it's called- The internet.
I think you and I could be good friends.
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Location: Lost in the swamps | rodeomom3 - 2015-07-04 8:16 AM
Kaycee - 2015-07-03 11:27 PM streakysox - 2015-07-03 10:07 PM Kaycee - 2015-07-03 9:53 PM There is a beginner's book, it's called- The internet.
I think you and I could be good friends. My vet laughs when I refer to my "internet" degree.
Hahahhaha mine too! They prob roll their eyes when I'm not looking.
But I love to read and it's mostly about horses,horse health and barrel racing.
Which is why I love this forum so much!
I love helping people when I can! I don't honestly have near
the knowledge as some on here but I'm always eager to soak up something new, or
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | bennie1 - 2015-07-03 11:13 PM This isn't a pure 'chain bit' but I thought the description of this bit from Les Vogt was interesting http://www.lesvogt.com/the-developer-a2/ He even says it is on the 'Milder end of the spectrum'
My daughter is riding her mare in a ported chain. Not something I ever in a million years would have thought would make her horse happy AND give her plenty of control, but her previous owner made the recommendation and by God, she was right. LOL. I've always disliked chains, but had to reconsider. You never stop learning... |
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Location: Phoenix | Three 4 Luck - 2015-07-04 6:48 AM
bennie1 - 2015-07-03 11:13 PM This isn't a pure 'chain bit' but I thought the description of this bit from Les Vogt was interesting http://www.lesvogt.com/the-developer-a2/ He even says it is on the 'Milder end of the spectrum'
I LOVE this type of bit. My horse hates anything across his tongue and loves any sort of roping bit with a port. |
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Location: Phoenix | A book would be helpful for all the girls I see on these tack swap sites asking for advice.....Their horse probably can't lope a collected circle and yet they are trying to barrel race on grass.....no Bueno. I hate to judge but eeeeesh. |
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| Most people want to go from beginner to pro overnight but cant remember to feed Monday thru Thursday. Second they don't want to set aside the NORMAL LIFE Monday thru Thursday to get better and learn they just want to be BETTY BARREL RACER on Friday - sunday. Third they want everyone else to do the work, research, studying, mistakes, the well craps that didn't works, for them and just give them the info that others put a lot of time, money, effort , money, and money , and more money into to come up with a program that works for them. So to say there is a science to it is true but there are several way " that work" to train a barrel horse, to feed and care for a barrel horse, and to ride a barrel horse. My last rant is nothing drives me more nuts than going to a show and parents strapping these kids in a saddle on a horse they have no business being on. PEOPLE put your kids on horses they can learn and grow on not something to get your own fix filled for the weekend... |
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Location: Florida.. | Its the Journey of learning that makes it rewarding , even with a book it doesnt mean its all going to work or be correct for you and your horse.. its all a bunch of words and knowledge put together . Always take what you learn and store it away and add more to it from other trainers and riders , take what makes sense and take what works for the horse and if you ever think your done learning.... you should hang up your bridle and walk away... as far as scammers etc.. we as riders need to be smart.. and sites like this.. have a wealth of information... some correct, some not .. think, research, and Inquire .. as far as making fun of others that are learning, well we all started somewhere .. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2015-07-04 12:45 PM Its the Journey of learning that makes it rewarding , even with a book it doesnt mean its all going to work or be correct for you and your horse.. its all a bunch of words and knowledge put together . Always take what you learn and store it away and add more to it from other trainers and riders , take what makes sense and take what works for the horse and if you ever think your done learning.... you should hang up your bridle and walk away... as far as scammers etc.. we as riders need to be smart.. and sites like this.. have a wealth of information... some correct, some not .. think, research, and Inquire .. as far as making fun of others that are learning, well we all started somewhere ..
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There is a beginner's book, it's called- The internet.
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There are tons and tons of books and articles on many of the topics listed, but books are just words we dont all learn that way either. But I do like reading and have tons of equine / barrel racing books and videos to referance. I like the really old ones too how things used to be done and treated. We have a medical vet advice type one from many moons ago. Its very intresting, not at all practical anymore ..... as preg checking involved mice if the vet could not palpate lol. But intresting for sure.
I don't mind when people ask questions, I helped a young girl get her first membership and how to enter, what to do when you get toyour first rodeo. What to expect in slack v rs perf ext ext ext. Just answred all her questions the best i could, Its a big scarry step if its all new and you know nobody there.
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Location: North Dakota | There is indeed a ton of misinformation out there! I see it all the time on here and other forums and websites. The thing is, you just can't expect to learn from a book or a website. I read a million books about horse care and ownership all throughout my childhood/teen years. I took riding lessons since I was 6 but nothing could have prepared me for evertyhing I've gone through owning horses. It's something you have to experience and learn as you go, hopefully with a good mentor. Just like learning to barrel race, you can't learn everything from a book or website. It's also your personal responsibility to research the products you use on your horse. Taking the BOT/PHT example, the real info is READILY available if people bother to look. |
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| BBLO - 2015-07-04 12:13 PM
Most people want to go from beginner to pro overnight but cant remember to feed Monday thru Thursday. Second they don't want to set aside the NORMAL LIFE Monday thru Thursday to get better and learn they just want to be BETTY BARREL RACER on Friday - sunday. Third they want everyone else to do the work, research, studying, mistakes, the well craps that didn't works, for them and just give them the info that others put a lot of time, money, effort , money, and money , and more money into to come up with a program that works for them. So to say there is a science to it is true but there are several way " that work" to train a barrel horse, to feed and care for a barrel horse, and to ride a barrel horse. My last rant is nothing drives me more nuts than going to a show and parents strapping these kids in a saddle on a horse they have no business being on. PEOPLE put your kids on horses they can learn and grow on not something to get your own fix filled for the weekend...
Lots of truth in what you typed here. I know people who give lots of lip service to learning and getting better, but devote very little time and sweat.
Lots of people have jobs and life events that limit them, I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about people who have no motivation to improve and when they ask for help, they really don't want to hear anything but good news and pats on the back. |
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| You could kinda call me a beginner barrel racer. I've ridden a lot before (trail riding, cutting, showing saddle seat, etc) and bought a beginner barrel horse about 2 years ago and tried learning. She was wonderful, but stupid me bought a horse during a time that I really didn't have time for one so I didn't ever get the experience that I wanted or needed. I sold my horses last year and am now starting from scratch again learning to barrel race with out my own horses. I would actually LOVE if they had a beginner barrel racing book. Luckily I try and watch a lot of videos, gather helpful information from everyone on here, google, and am getting lessons and listening to people who have barrel raced before. It still would be nice if there was a book with all of the nitty gritty details that one needs to know! ETA that there could never be a book with all of the information you need to know but it sure would be nice. Kind of a book that replenished itself and added more pages in different chapters. Lol
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Location: Florida.. | blccwgl55 - 2015-07-05 6:52 PM You could kinda call me a beginner barrel racer. I've ridden a lot before (trail riding, cutting, showing saddle seat, etc) and bought a beginner barrel horse about 2 years ago and tried learning. She was wonderful, but stupid me bought a horse during a time that I really didn't have time for one so I didn't ever get the experience that I wanted or needed. I sold my horses last year and am now starting from scratch again learning to barrel race with out my own horses. I would actually LOVE if they had a beginner barrel racing book. Luckily I try and watch a lot of videos, gather helpful information from everyone on here, google, and am getting lessons and listening to people who have barrel raced before. It still would be nice if there was a book with all of the nitty gritty details that one needs to know! ETA that there could never be a book with all of the information you need to know but it sure would be nice. Kind of a book that replenished itself and added more pages in different chapters. Lol
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | blccwgl55 - 2015-07-05 5:52 PM You could kinda call me a beginner barrel racer. I've ridden a lot before (trail riding, cutting, showing saddle seat, etc) and bought a beginner barrel horse about 2 years ago and tried learning. She was wonderful, but stupid me bought a horse during a time that I really didn't have time for one so I didn't ever get the experience that I wanted or needed. I sold my horses last year and am now starting from scratch again learning to barrel race with out my own horses. I would actually LOVE if they had a beginner barrel racing book. Luckily I try and watch a lot of videos, gather helpful information from everyone on here, google, and am getting lessons and listening to people who have barrel raced before. It still would be nice if there was a book with all of the nitty gritty details that one needs to know! ETA that there could never be a book with all of the information you need to know but it sure would be nice. Kind of a book that replenished itself and added more pages in different chapters. Lol
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| I know it! I'm learning new things every day in all aspects of life. It really is never ending. Some things I would rather learn easier but if I didn't learn it the hard way like I've had to with some things, I would never get any smarter or stronger. Horses are one of those things! |
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Location: Arkansas | I think the sport has evolved so much that the basics aren't just the basics anymore!!! I feel like I'm pretty knowledgable and then I get humbled every time!! It's a quickly evolving industry and it's hard to keep up! I may ask what seems like a dumb question to someone else, but to me it's a chance to learn something. There is plenty of material out there to get someone started, but in the beginning, who would even think about feeding schedules, recovery equipment and bits?? That just takes time and experience to learn. We all started somewhere and we had to learn somehow! |
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| Brrlracengirl - 2015-07-05 6:52 PM
I think the sport has evolved so much that the basics aren't just the basics anymore!!! I feel like I'm pretty knowledgable and then I get humbled every time!! It's a quickly evolving industry and it's hard to keep up! I may ask what seems like a dumb question to someone else, but to me it's a chance to learn something. There is plenty of material out there to get someone started, but in the beginning, who would even think about feeding schedules, recovery equipment and bits?? That just takes time and experience to learn. We all started somewhere and we had to learn somehow!
Evolved or devolved?
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Location: on my horse | As bibs and a few others have mentioned someone could write that book and by next week we would all think of something else to add.
As far as learning from things on the forum go I love this forum for the information and leads I can get. I take what I read works or doesn't work for certain people think it through, research it until my eyeballs are numb and then test it out if I feel my horses or myself will benefit. For example miss one board buddy sent me a link on Facebook that helped me immeasurably with keeping myself sucked down and centered around a barrel, while just last week I was stalking the forums reading old threads about bits and ended up getting a great recommendation from svincent as well as a wonderful pole exercise to help round out my horse. These things came after a lot of research however.
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Location: Arkansas | Itsme - 2015-07-05 8:02 PM
Brrlracengirl - 2015-07-05 6:52 PM
I think the sport has evolved so much that the basics aren't just the basics anymore!!! I feel like I'm pretty knowledgable and then I get humbled every time!! It's a quickly evolving industry and it's hard to keep up! I may ask what seems like a dumb question to someone else, but to me it's a chance to learn something. There is plenty of material out there to get someone started, but in the beginning, who would even think about feeding schedules, recovery equipment and bits?? That just takes time and experience to learn. We all started somewhere and we had to learn somehow!
Evolved or devolved?
I believe a lot of the new trends are BS and driven by social media and people with their hands in the cookie jar. A lot of the older class riders are still kicking butt and not spending a fortune on the so called latest and greatest gadgets.
That's a good point. If only our horses could speak and tell us what does and doesn't work for them!! Blanketed from head to toe in gear probably isn't very comfortable. They are horses and sometimes they need to be turned out and treated as such. But I also believe that the medicinal side of things has improved tremendously! |
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| The replies to all those questions are different according to what level you are on and everyone is right its a journey and overtime your answers will change according to what is going to work for your life and your horses at the time.
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Location: Texas | I'm glad I had the people in my life that I did that helped me learn. Most of what I've learned about bloodlines has been from the people I've met on BHW and the friendships I have cultivated. Same thing with bits. Funny, I actually have been selling a lot of bits and have found a select few I use all the time.. Don't need a ton of them anymore.
There's different training methods from how big a pocket to give, where to check, even the shape the horse makes around the barrel. There's not one correct way to do it. I learned from a few people and have figured out my way that works for me.
I bet if you were to look back on the posts I made when I joined here in what.. 2005... I would be really embarrassed about the questions I have asked. But I have learned a lot along the way.
I'm also glad I had friends who let me rodeo with them when I had no idea what to do, who explained the way things worked and let me tag along when I really had no business being out there with the horse I originally was on. They never judged me or told me I was under-mounted.
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Location: on my horse | casualdust07 - 2015-07-07 2:25 PM I'm glad I had the people in my life that I did that helped me learn. Most of what I've learned about bloodlines has been from the people I've met on BHW and the friendships I have cultivated. Same thing with bits. Funny, I actually have been selling a lot of bits and have found a select few I use all the time.. Don't need a ton of them anymore. There's different training methods from how big a pocket to give, where to check, even the shape the horse makes around the barrel. There's not one correct way to do it. I learned from a few people and have figured out my way that works for me. I bet if you were to look back on the posts I made when I joined here in what.. 2005... I would be really embarrassed about the questions I have asked. But I have learned a lot along the way. I'm also glad I had friends who let me rodeo with them when I had no idea what to do, who explained the way things worked and let me tag along when I really had no business being out there with the horse I originally was on. They never judged me or told me I was under-mounted.
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Location: North Dakota | outrundaizy - 2015-07-03 8:47 PM Some of the comments i've seen lately are just... Wow
Some from people I respect too!
There needs to be a proper explanation on saddle fit.
How bits work.
What products/companies are scams.
How you enter rodeos.
How you find barrel races.
How to tell if your horse is sore.
What you do about the soreness
The difference between PHT & BOT
I'm sure there is many more as well..
I completely understand when people are asking questions and are truly curious to learn, but I just saw someone try to say the difference between pht and bot and the amount of false information in the comment could not have been any greater.
There's just so much to learn and so much that so many people don't know.
Umm, there is?
http://www.amazon.com/Charmayne-Barrel-Racing-Western-Horseman/dp/0911647767/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1436366902&sr=1-1&keywords=charmayne+james
http://www.amazon.com/Barrel-Racing-Completely-Sharon-Camarillo/dp/0911647562/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1436366924&sr=1-6&keywords=barrel+racing+books
http://www.amazon.com/Barrel-Racing-Fun-Fast-Times/dp/1628737883/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1436366924&sr=1-7&keywords=barrel+racing+books
I know there are others, but I personally have all these books myself and they go through all of what you said... except maybe the PHT vs BOT.
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Location: The edge of no where | astreakinchic - 2015-07-06 1:46 PM The replies to all those questions are different according to what level you are on and everyone is right its a journey and overtime your answers will change according to what is going to work for your life and your horses at the time. Plus not everyone is as serious as some people. Some are in it for a hobby and some for a business making those answers different as well.
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| Itsme - 2015-07-05 8:02 PM
Brrlracengirl - 2015-07-05 6:52 PM
I think the sport has evolved so much that the basics aren't just the basics anymore!!! I feel like I'm pretty knowledgable and then I get humbled every time!! It's a quickly evolving industry and it's hard to keep up! I may ask what seems like a dumb question to someone else, but to me it's a chance to learn something. There is plenty of material out there to get someone started, but in the beginning, who would even think about feeding schedules, recovery equipment and bits?? That just takes time and experience to learn. We all started somewhere and we had to learn somehow!
Evolved or devolved?
I believe a lot of the new trends are BS and driven by social media and people with their hands in the cookie jar. A lot of the older class riders are still kicking butt and not spending a fortune on the so called latest and greatest gadgets.
Amen! And to think I've been riding and barrel racing for 40 years and I don't have BOT or PHT, yet the horse I have leased out is leading the northern KS NBHA 1D (although I will admit that gal I leased him to uses BOT products).
I think there are a lot more useful things for a beginner to know like nutrition, proper vet care, etc, than learning about the latest "gimmick." |
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | IowaCanChaser - 2015-07-03 9:16 PM I agree 100%! I can't imagine how hard it is these days to start barrel racing without having a rodeo background. There is false information and bad advise everywhere!! Anyone have the time to write a book?! Lol
is these days to start barrel racing without having a rodeo background
I don't agree with this.... I started out going to gymkhana shows then after that got old went straight into jackpot/barrelracing. I've only entered 1 open rodeo and that was after I had been running jackpots for 6 months or so. I would think a person would want to enter jackpots first then decide if they wanted to go the rodeo circuit. Rodeo is a lot tougher than jackpots imo. |
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Wow someone needs to write a "Barrel racing for beginners" book...