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| So I have a gelding that looks poor honestly, he is about 100# under weight IMO. I had been feeding him a 1000# ration of BlueBonnet Intensify and it wasn't making him gain weight. I am now feeding him that plus 1/2 scoop of the growth.
My barrel mare is very prone to ulcer so I dug into the books at work the other day and I saw a part about horses that have ulcers won't keep weight well. I also saw where horses that burp a lot have an issue with gastric emptying, causing an issue with nutrient absorption. This horse burps ALL THE TIME. He is a little fractious when riding, like I have desensitized him to my body and strange objects like hoodies and such but occassionally if I go to pick something up or hand it off he will booger at first but then he's fine. He has never gone off feed and acted conchy but he looks like hell eating a very good feed/forage (turned out 24/7 on good grass) diet and burps mon stop. He is off the track.
I can treat him for ulcers with omeprazole but I am really wondering about gastric emptying issues with this horse. There was a med in the book that was said to be safe for long term use that helped with gastric emptying. Started with a M.
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| I would treat with omeprazole for 39 days min while not riding him
I would consult with my vet
After the omeprazole, I would put on probiotics for a few weeks
After the probiotics, I would deworm (my skinny horses, I give a different dewormer each week for a month)
After the worming then I would do probiotics again
When riding there is more research showing best practice is to administer a stomach soother 20 min prior to riding and 20 min prior to hauling
I would also look at the feeding regime to ensure it is not highly fermentable
If you don't have loose salt and a quality loose mineral, I would put this out for him, I don't force feed mineral |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Look at Omega Force as an alternative to feeding so much grain. The recommended amount is SO much less and contains more calories.
Also, I cannot stress enough that you need to put this horse on Transform DSI. It's a Bluebonnet supplement. The directions are 4oz a day for two weeks then 2oz a day to sustain. We fed ours 4oz a day for 30 days and they look like completely different animals.
If you're ever in the Tulsa area you can pick up Omnis cubes from me or they're also available in Pauls Valley. We have seen amazing results in horses with ulcer type symptoms as well as cribbers that have completely relaxed. |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-07-07 11:17 AM
Look at Omega Force as an alternative to feeding so much grain. The recommended amount is SO much less and contains more calories.
Also, I cannot stress enough that you need to put this horse on Transform DSI. It's a Bluebonnet supplement. The directions are 4oz a day for two weeks then 2oz a day to sustain. We fed ours 4oz a day for 30 days and they look like completely different animals.
If you're ever in the Tulsa area you can pick up Omnis cubes from me or they're also available in Pauls Valley. We have seen amazing results in horses with ulcer type symptoms as well as cribbers that have completely relaxed.
I looked at the transform. Have you seen the stableOne? Looks like the same thing but in powder and paste form. I have a call in to my feed store to order one of the other. Waiting on a call back. The StableOne says patent pending though? |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Transform is for more longterm use...and much more cost effective. It runs about $0.36 an ounce. We have all of ours on 1oz a day now that they seem to be stabilizing. Our horses had started gaining their weight back on Intensify, but it was when we put them on Transform that they really bloomed. Then after doing more investigation I figured out how much less of the Omega Force that we could feed them with better results. Now ours are only getting about half a scoop twice a day, which is maybe 4# total. |
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | another good product that is cheaper is CRS GOLD DFM i think you can get it from valley vet |
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Location: Here | rachellyn80 - 2015-07-07 11:17 AM Look at Omega Force as an alternative to feeding so much grain. The recommended amount is SO much less and contains more calories.
Also, I cannot stress enough that you need to put this horse on Transform DSI. It's a Bluebonnet supplement. The directions are 4oz a day for two weeks then 2oz a day to sustain. We fed ours 4oz a day for 30 days and they look like completely different animals.
If you're ever in the Tulsa area you can pick up Omnis cubes from me or they're also available in Pauls Valley. We have seen amazing results in horses with ulcer type symptoms as well as cribbers that have completely relaxed.
I agree!!! 100% Transform DSI works so much better than drugs.... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I guess I'm still old school, Fastrack is my go to probiotics when I feel like theres a problem, think goodness its been a long time since I needed it. But I like it well my horses do, LOL  |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Personally I prefer products that are formulated specifically for horses. Fastrak may do what you need it to do, but it's a multi-species product. You're comparing apples to oranges with most digestive supplements as far as guaranteed analysis, function, cost, and actual results.
http://bluebonnetfeeds.com/pdf/transform_dsi.pdf
Edited by rachellyn80 2015-07-09 10:26 AM
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Location: Oklahoma | I third the Transform DSI and Omega Force. It worked wonders for my gelding as far as putting weight on him. His teeth are fine, wormed, etc... just something was lacking and he was acting ulcery. DSI did him a 180 turnaround. Going to pick up my second container today! |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | rachellyn80 - 2015-07-09 10:25 AM Personally I prefer products that are formulated specifically for horses. Fastrak may do what you need it to do, but it's a multi-species product. You're comparing apples to oranges with most digestive supplements as far as guaranteed analysis, function, cost, and actual results.
http://bluebonnetfeeds.com/pdf/transform_dsi.pdf
Oh well it worked for me, but like I said its not offten I would need it and its been years since I used it, it did its job when I needed it |
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Gastric emptying, burping and weight loss (horse)