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$18 trillion in debt and what is our government up in arms about?
Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-07-09 2:23 PM
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Trump/Cruz 2016 is looking better and better everyday.
Has this administration done anything to bring this country together? The small divide is now looking like the Grand Canyon. 


 
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-07-09 2:29 PM
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2015-07-09 2:33 PM
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....and a beautiful young woman shot to death in San Francisco by an illegal Hispanic.  No reaction from the White House and no VP or aides sent to the funeral to show support for the family.  How's that open border policy working, Obama, how many future Dem voters do we have to import before you're happy?
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Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-07-09 2:39 PM
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Or even the person shot in Hollywood too?  Or the ones that shot each other in Chicago?   At least Trump tells it like it is - no sugar coating at all.   
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Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-07-09 2:47 PM
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Frodo - 2015-07-09 12:33 PM

....and a beautiful young woman shot to death in San Francisco by an illegal Hispanic.  No reaction from the White House and no VP or aides sent to the funeral to show support for the family.  How's that open border policy working, Obama, how many future Dem voters do we have to import before you're happy?

Yup, by a criminal who was deported 5x, claims not to speak english, says he FOUND a gun wrapped in a t-shirt that a sheriff LOST and that the gun went off accidentally. People like that need to DISAPPEAR... Literally, our government has ways of disposing of people and no trace left behind.
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 2:50 PM
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I'm glad he's willing to take the punches for speaking up. I just don't know if I could bring myself to vote for him. 
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-07-09 3:02 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-07-09 2:47 PM
Frodo - 2015-07-09 12:33 PM ....and a beautiful young woman shot to death in San Francisco by an illegal Hispanic.  No reaction from the White House and no VP or aides sent to the funeral to show support for the family.  How's that open border policy working, Obama, how many future Dem voters do we have to import before you're happy?
Yup, by a criminal who was deported 5x, claims not to speak english, says he FOUND a gun wrapped in a t-shirt that a sheriff LOST and that the gun went off accidentally. People like that need to DISAPPEAR... Literally, our government has ways of disposing of people and no trace left behind.

Kind of like this:

http://www.healthnutnews.com/3rd-alternative-prominent-doctor-from-florida-found-dead-in-2-weeks-authorities-say-md-was-murdered/
 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-07-09 3:14 PM
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The reason Trump's popularity is on the rise is that he is saying the same things we are all saying. He comes across as a highly successful citizen who will not apologize for his wealth and success.....who also happens to be fed up with politicians who talk a big game, while accomplishing nothing. He's fed up, just like the rest of us. The media pundits mock him and don't consider him to be a serious contender.......and that also works to his advantage, because we are as disgusted with the MSM almost as much as the politicians. People love the fact that he is beholding to nobody, because he's not pandering to donors. He owes nobody. We are witnessing how he is turning politics as usual upside down.
Mark my word, as God is my witness, scandals are going to emerge, as well as bimbos, and we all know who will be behind them. Just ask Herman Cain.
I'm paying attention to him, and I'm glad he's stirring the pot. In my opinion, his lack of experience in politics is a plus. If he ends up with the nomination, we will be faced with two choices.......Billary or Trump. I think the next 15 months will be very interesting. Who do you suppose is more capable of actually fixing things and getting us back on the right path?
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 3:21 PM
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Bear - 2015-07-09 3:14 PM The reason Trump's popularity is on the rise is that he is saying the same things we are all saying. He comes across as a highly successful citizen who will not apologize for his wealth and success.....who also happens to be fed up with politicians who talk a big game, while accomplishing nothing. He's fed up, just like the rest of us. The media pundits mock him and don't consider him to be a serious contender.......and that also works to his advantage, because we are as disgusted with the MSM almost as much as the politicians. People love the fact that he is beholding to nobody, because he's not pandering to donors. He owes nobody. We are witnessing how he is turning politics as usual upside down. Mark my word, as God is my witness, scandals are going to emerge, as well as bimbos, and we all know who will be behind them. Just ask Herman Cain. I'm paying attention to him, and I'm glad he's stirring the pot. In my opinion, his lack of experience in politics is a plus. If he ends up with the nomination, we will be faced with two choices.......Billary or Trump. I think the next 15 months will be very interesting. Who do you suppose is more capable of actually fixing things and getting us back on the right path?

You are sooo right, we need someone thats mad and sick like the rest of us of the going ons that they try to cover up. Trump is no fool and he scares the he** out of them  
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 3:29 PM
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I like Trump he's no wimp thats for sure, says it like it should have been said a really long time ago  
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-07-09 3:48 PM
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Do I like Trump as a person that I would want to be friends with? No...I want someone that can fix this country and we all know that a political person only does what is best for them to stay in office and it's all about them in the end. Trump has nothing to gain except pride in fixing our country and I'm sure he wouldn't want politics to be his life end career.
 


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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-07-09 4:15 PM
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While "the Donald" maybe entertaining in his statements. Many of them I agree on. There is no way I would vote for him. He has offered Zero plans to solve anything. He has been in the past A registered Rep, Dem., Ind., Unaf. and back to Rep. he heavily supported the Dem's in 2006 senate races that gave us the Nancy and Harry show which gave us Obama care. If Trump does get the nomination I will be sitting this election out for the first time in my live. Thanks but NO thanks.
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Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 4:21 PM
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jbhoot - 2015-07-09 4:15 PM While "the Donald" maybe entertaining in his statements. Many of them I agree on. There is no way I would vote for him. He has offered Zero plans to solve anything. He has been in the past A registered Rep, Dem., Ind., Unaf. and back to Rep. he heavily supported the Dem's in 2006 senate races that gave us the Nancy and Harry show which gave us Obama care. If Trump does get the nomination I will be sitting this election out for the first time in my live. Thanks but NO thanks.

^^^^ The truth........ It will be very interesting to see him in the debates because they will be "gunning" for him. He will have to come up with more than loud noises and stomping his feet.....

IMO, he is doing exactly what Palin got done....he is stirring the pot and getting people to take notice with politics but will never get the nomination.

 
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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-07-09 4:32 PM
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Frodo - 2015-07-09 3:33 PM ....and a beautiful young woman shot to death in San Francisco by an illegal Hispanic.  No reaction from the White House and no VP or aides sent to the funeral to show support for the family.  How's that open border policy working, Obama, how many future Dem voters do we have to import before you're happy?

i don/t get how san fran can be a a place where illegals go and the fed s  can not do something about it

 
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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-07-09 4:40 PM
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vjls - 2015-07-09 4:32 PM

Frodo - 2015-07-09 3:33 PM ....and a beautiful young woman shot to death in San Francisco by an illegal Hispanic.  No reaction from the White House and no VP or aides sent to the funeral to show support for the family.  How's that open border policy working, Obama, how many future Dem voters do we have to import before you're happy?

i don/t get how san fran can be a a place where illegals go and the fed s  can not do something about it

 

Obama and Holder said in his first term that they would not prosecute any of the sanctuary city's.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-07-09 4:41 PM
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Yes, it's true that he used to be a Democrat........so was Reagan.
I highly doubt Trump is worried about the debates. Palin did stir the pot, just like Trump, but she didn't feel so strongly about it that she was willing to throw her hat in the ring.
I remember how fired up I was when the Republicans blew the Democrats out of the water. They had all these conservative-sounding plans. They were going to do this, and they were going to do that. What have they done? Have they "defunded" anything, like they said?
I think Trump will hold some feet to the fire. He may not be my choice, but much of what he will say will have a lot of people fist pumping.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 4:41 PM
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I'm not a Trump fan either, but darn hes sure not chicken to say what hes thinking, I dont think I will be voting for him, but like his fire... But then I may change my mind when the time comes.. 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-07-09 4:55 PM
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If he wins the nomination, I will vote for him. I'm sure as hell not going to stay home because my candidate didn't get the nod, like some people did in 2012. Their candidate of choice wasn't on the ticket....so 3.5 million Republicans stayed home. That kind of apathy is why we are circling the drain.
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Anniemae
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-07-09 5:40 PM
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jbhoot - 2015-07-09 2:15 PM While "the Donald" maybe entertaining in his statements. Many of them I agree on. There is no way I would vote for him. He has offered Zero plans to solve anything. He has been in the past A registered Rep, Dem., Ind., Unaf. and back to Rep. he heavily supported the Dem's in 2006 senate races that gave us the Nancy and Harry show which gave us Obama care. If Trump does get the nomination I will be sitting this election out for the first time in my live. Thanks but NO thanks.

Donald is not shy about stating his opinion or sticking to his guns.  My guess is that he will be on several debate stages, then will eventually bow out of the race.  The RNC has already 'asked' him to tone down his rhetoric.  That tells me he is making too many people squirm on BOTH sides of the isle...   
The positives are the he is placing hot topic/sensitive issues squarely in the forefront.  This may eventually force other candidates to make a stance, letting the chips fall where they may.  Give the Donald a nod, he is courageous in the fact that he is bringing up and talk about these hot topic issues.  Good for him!!
The down side is that Donald can't help himself, and jumps into the fray guns blazing.  He is completely and utterly unpredictable with his words and his actions.   In some ways a breath of fresh air in other ways a loose cannon, which is not always a good thing....  LOL 
He won't be the R candidate, but it'll one interesting race to watch!

As for skeltons in his closet, goodness it is the Donald. He probably has several walk in's full of skeltons in all shapes, sizes and colors! Hahahaha... 



 
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 5:44 PM
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I honestly would be shocked to see the GOP embrace Trump.  They have their machine, and that engine doesn't run on anything but bought and paid for blood.  If he got passed that, he'd never survive the media.   
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-07-09 7:09 PM
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Anniemae - 2015-07-09 5:40 PM
jbhoot - 2015-07-09 2:15 PM While "the Donald" maybe entertaining in his statements. Many of them I agree on. There is no way I would vote for him. He has offered Zero plans to solve anything. He has been in the past A registered Rep, Dem., Ind., Unaf. and back to Rep. he heavily supported the Dem's in 2006 senate races that gave us the Nancy and Harry show which gave us Obama care. If Trump does get the nomination I will be sitting this election out for the first time in my live. Thanks but NO thanks.
Donald is not shy about stating his opinion or sticking to his guns.  My guess is that he will be on several debate stages, then will eventually bow out of the race.  The RNC has already 'asked' him to tone down his rhetoric.  That tells me he is making too many people squirm on BOTH sides of the isle...   

The positives are the he is placing hot topic/sensitive issues squarely in the forefront.  This may eventually force other candidates to make a stance, letting the chips fall where they may.  Give the Donald a nod, he is courageous in the fact that he is bringing up and talk about these hot topic issues.  Good for him!!

The down side is that Donald can't help himself, and jumps into the fray guns blazing.  He is completely and utterly unpredictable with his words and his actions.   In some ways a breath of fresh air in other ways a loose cannon, which is not always a good thing....  LOL 

He won't be the R candidate, but it'll one interesting race to watch!



As for skeltons in his closet, goodness it is the Donald. He probably has several walk in's full of skeltons in all shapes, sizes and colors! Hahahaha... 






 

And we all know the MSM only looks into republican's closets. CNN has already reported that Trump had illegals working on one of his buildings 30 some years ago and of course says nothing about Killery or any other dem.
 
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Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-07-09 9:00 PM
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I agree with Scott .. we all have been wanting someone to speak for US we the PEOPLE and fight for what we WANT.... and not a career  politician with his hands in the money jar.. and or in bed with the dems..... well .................... 
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Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2015-07-09 9:19 PM
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Nevertooold - 2015-07-09 7:09 PM
Anniemae - 2015-07-09 5:40 PM
jbhoot - 2015-07-09 2:15 PM While "the Donald" maybe entertaining in his statements. Many of them I agree on. There is no way I would vote for him. He has offered Zero plans to solve anything. He has been in the past A registered Rep, Dem., Ind., Unaf. and back to Rep. he heavily supported the Dem's in 2006 senate races that gave us the Nancy and Harry show which gave us Obama care. If Trump does get the nomination I will be sitting this election out for the first time in my live. Thanks but NO thanks.
Donald is not shy about stating his opinion or sticking to his guns.  My guess is that he will be on several debate stages, then will eventually bow out of the race.  The RNC has already 'asked' him to tone down his rhetoric.  That tells me he is making too many people squirm on BOTH sides of the isle...   

The positives are the he is placing hot topic/sensitive issues squarely in the forefront.  This may eventually force other candidates to make a stance, letting the chips fall where they may.  Give the Donald a nod, he is courageous in the fact that he is bringing up and talk about these hot topic issues.  Good for him!!

The down side is that Donald can't help himself, and jumps into the fray guns blazing.  He is completely and utterly unpredictable with his words and his actions.   In some ways a breath of fresh air in other ways a loose cannon, which is not always a good thing....  LOL 

He won't be the R candidate, but it'll one interesting race to watch!



As for skeltons in his closet, goodness it is the Donald. He probably has several walk in's full of skeltons in all shapes, sizes and colors! Hahahaha... 






 
And we all know the MSM only looks into republican's closets. CNN has already reported that Trump had illegals working on one of his buildings 30 some years ago and of course says nothing about Killery or any other dem.

 

MSNBC is kind of pathetic the way they latch on to a Republican who just had an "incident."  I thought they would never ever get over Chris Christie and that Bridgegate thing.   It was the news of the day every time I surfed past their ridiculous station.

 
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Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-07-09 9:32 PM
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Personally, I love Trump as a presidential nominee. This country NEEDS a businessman in the White House, not a politician. As for his political bouncing around, who cares? I can understand why he would do that. At various points in various discussions, I too find myself identifying with more than one party. Do I change my registration? No, but that's because I will vote with my pocketbook (Republican) before I vote with anything else. I identify most strongly as a Libertarian, but I want to have a say in the Republican primary - so I register Republican. I tend to have very conservative financial beliefs, and pretty liberal social beliefs - I'm right with God, I don't think it is the government's job to force everybody else to attempt to get right by pushing through legislation.

I would like to see the end of people in general, but most definitely the liberal-minded, looking for things to be offended by; and also the end of government strong arming various people/organizations/agencies into adjusting to their mold of "correct."

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Posted 2015-07-09 9:47 PM
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svincent - 2015-07-09 9:32 PM Personally, I love Trump as a presidential nominee. This country NEEDS a businessman in the White House, not a politician. As for his political bouncing around, who cares? I can understand why he would do that. At various points in various discussions, I too find myself identifying with more than one party. Do I change my registration? No, but that's because I will vote with my pocketbook (Republican) before I vote with anything else. I identify most strongly as a Libertarian, but I want to have a say in the Republican primary - so I register Republican. I tend to have very conservative financial beliefs, and pretty liberal social beliefs - I'm right with God, I don't think it is the government's job to force everybody else to attempt to get right by pushing through legislation. I would like to see the end of people in general, but most definitely the liberal-minded, looking for things to be offended by; and also the end of government strong arming various people/organizations/agencies into adjusting to their mold of "correct."

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Posted 2015-07-09 11:10 PM
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jbhoot - 2015-07-09 4:15 PM While "the Donald" maybe entertaining in his statements. Many of them I agree on. There is no way I would vote for him. He has offered Zero plans to solve anything. He has been in the past A registered Rep, Dem., Ind., Unaf. and back to Rep. he heavily supported the Dem's in 2006 senate races that gave us the Nancy and Harry show which gave us Obama care. If Trump does get the nomination I will be sitting this election out for the first time in my live. Thanks but NO thanks.

So you would rather have Hillary if it comes down to that?   
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jbhoot
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Posted 2015-07-10 6:38 AM
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Barnmom - 2015-07-09 11:10 PM

jbhoot - 2015-07-09 4:15 PM While "the Donald" maybe entertaining in his statements. Many of them I agree on. There is no way I would vote for him. He has offered Zero plans to solve anything. He has been in the past A registered Rep, Dem., Ind., Unaf. and back to Rep. he heavily supported the Dem's in 2006 senate races that gave us the Nancy and Harry show which gave us Obama care. If Trump does get the nomination I will be sitting this election out for the first time in my live. Thanks but NO thanks.

So you would rather have Hillary if it comes down to that?   

You have to be kidding right! But to answer your question. If it comes down to the Hilda beast or the Donald I will be sitting the election out. I will not waste my vote on either one period. Everyone has their limit.
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Was watching an interview yesterday where the reporter asked Cruz and another canidate what they thought of Donald. They both danced around the questions so much it was rediculious. They were the typical spoon, fed politically correct answers. Neither one of them really answered the questions and it made me even more determined to find out more about Trump. I know that I like what he says and I LOVE that he has the balls to stand-up for what he believes in. However, I want to know more about him first.

I know this with a doubt though...I would never in a million years vote for Hillary and Trump was 200% right when he said "Hillary is the worst Secetary of State in US histroy and would make a horrible president." Tell like it is Trump!

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Rolling J - 2015-07-10 6:52 AM Was watching an interview yesterday where the reporter asked Cruz and another canidate what they thought of Donald. They both danced around the questions so much it was rediculious. They were the typical spoon, fed politically correct answers. Neither one of them really answered the questions and it made me even more determined to find out more about Trump. I know that I like what he says and I LOVE that he has the balls to stand-up for what he believes in. However, I want to know more about him first. I know this with a doubt though...I would never in a million years vote for Hillary and Trump was 200% right when he said "Hillary is the worst Secetary of State in US histroy and would make a horrible president." Tell like it is Trump!

When quizzed about Trump by a reporter Cruz said he refuses to play into the hands of the press and criticize his fellow Republican candidates.   Let's hope he stands by that because it's pretty admirable.
 
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Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-07-10 10:04 AM
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jbhoot - 2015-07-10 4:38 AM

Barnmom - 2015-07-09 11:10 PM

jbhoot - 2015-07-09 4:15 PM While "the Donald" maybe entertaining in his statements. Many of them I agree on. There is no way I would vote for him. He has offered Zero plans to solve anything. He has been in the past A registered Rep, Dem., Ind., Unaf. and back to Rep. he heavily supported the Dem's in 2006 senate races that gave us the Nancy and Harry show which gave us Obama care. If Trump does get the nomination I will be sitting this election out for the first time in my live. Thanks but NO thanks.

So you would rather have Hillary if it comes down to that?   

You have to be kidding right! But to answer your question. If it comes down to the Hilda beast or the Donald I will be sitting the election out. I will not waste my vote on either one period. Everyone has their limit.

It's people's political tantrums like this that allow politicians to keep playing their same old games. It's not ever fun to choose the lesser of two evils, but it needs to be done whether we like it or not. By NOT voting for Trump, you'd might as well just go vote for Clinton. Voting is not only a privilege but a responsibility, and to throw that right away just because your favorite didn't get the nod is irresponsible as a citizen of this country.
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svincent - 2015-07-10 10:04 AM

jbhoot - 2015-07-10 4:38 AM

Barnmom - 2015-07-09 11:10 PM

jbhoot - 2015-07-09 4:15 PM While "the Donald" maybe entertaining in his statements. Many of them I agree on. There is no way I would vote for him. He has offered Zero plans to solve anything. He has been in the past A registered Rep, Dem., Ind., Unaf. and back to Rep. he heavily supported the Dem's in 2006 senate races that gave us the Nancy and Harry show which gave us Obama care. If Trump does get the nomination I will be sitting this election out for the first time in my live. Thanks but NO thanks.

So you would rather have Hillary if it comes down to that?   

You have to be kidding right! But to answer your question. If it comes down to the Hilda beast or the Donald I will be sitting the election out. I will not waste my vote on either one period. Everyone has their limit.

It's people's political tantrums like this that allow politicians to keep playing their same old games. It's not ever fun to choose the lesser of two evils, but it needs to be done whether we like it or not. By NOT voting for Trump, you'd might as well just go vote for Clinton. Voting is not only a privilege but a responsibility, and to throw that right away just because your favorite didn't get the nod is irresponsible as a citizen of this country.

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The reason Trump's popularity is on the rise is that he is saying the same things we are all saying. He comes across as a highly successful citizen who will not apologize for his wealth and success.....who also happens to be fed up with politicians who talk a big game, while accomplishing nothing. He's fed up, just like the rest of us. The media pundits mock him and don't consider him to be a serious contender.......and that also works to his advantage, because we are as disgusted with the MSM almost as much as the politicians. People love the fact that he is beholding to nobody, because he's not pandering to donors. He owes nobody. We are witnessing how he is turning politics as usual upside down.
Mark my word, as God is my witness, scandals are going to emerge, as well as bimbos, and we all know who will be behind them. Just ask Herman Cain.
I'm paying attention to him, and I'm glad he's stirring the pot. In my opinion, his lack of experience in politics is a plus. If he ends up with the nomination, we will be faced with two choices.......Billary or Trump. I think the next 15 months will be very interesting. Who do you suppose is more capable of actually fixing things and getting us back on the right path?

I love him just because he is willing to push politics off the edge of a cliff to do what is good for the country....

and...... after Blowjob Bill and his antics in the Oral Office I doubt there is much left Trump could shock us with...
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jbhoot - 2015-07-09 4:15 PM While "the Donald" maybe entertaining in his statements. Many of them I agree on. There is no way I would vote for him. He has offered Zero plans to solve anything. He has been in the past A registered Rep, Dem., Ind., Unaf. and back to Rep. he heavily supported the Dem's in 2006 senate races that gave us the Nancy and Harry show which gave us Obama care. If Trump does get the nomination I will be sitting this election out for the first time in my live. Thanks but NO thanks.

So you would rather have Hillary if it comes down to that?   

You have to be kidding right! But to answer your question. If it comes down to the Hilda beast or the Donald I will be sitting the election out. I will not waste my vote on either one period. Everyone has their limit.

It's people's political tantrums like this that allow politicians to keep playing their same old games. It's not ever fun to choose the lesser of two evils, but it needs to be done whether we like it or not. By NOT voting for Trump, you'd might as well just go vote for Clinton. Voting is not only a privilege but a responsibility, and to throw that right away just because your favorite didn't get the nod is irresponsible as a citizen of this country.

You call it a tantrum I call it conviction. And please don't call me a irresponsible citizen. I have never failed to vote in every election for the last 46 years. I have held my noise many times and voted for the lessor of two evils. There are 15 other people running some I like some not so much all of them I could vote for even if it is not my favorite. But Trump will not get my vote period.
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jbhoot - 2015-07-10 2:24 PM

svincent - 2015-07-10 10:04 AM

jbhoot - 2015-07-10 4:38 AM

Barnmom - 2015-07-09 11:10 PM

jbhoot - 2015-07-09 4:15 PM While "the Donald" maybe entertaining in his statements. Many of them I agree on. There is no way I would vote for him. He has offered Zero plans to solve anything. He has been in the past A registered Rep, Dem., Ind., Unaf. and back to Rep. he heavily supported the Dem's in 2006 senate races that gave us the Nancy and Harry show which gave us Obama care. If Trump does get the nomination I will be sitting this election out for the first time in my live. Thanks but NO thanks.

So you would rather have Hillary if it comes down to that?   

You have to be kidding right! But to answer your question. If it comes down to the Hilda beast or the Donald I will be sitting the election out. I will not waste my vote on either one period. Everyone has their limit.

It's people's political tantrums like this that allow politicians to keep playing their same old games. It's not ever fun to choose the lesser of two evils, but it needs to be done whether we like it or not. By NOT voting for Trump, you'd might as well just go vote for Clinton. Voting is not only a privilege but a responsibility, and to throw that right away just because your favorite didn't get the nod is irresponsible as a citizen of this country.

You call it a tantrum I call it conviction. And please don't call me a irresponsible citizen. I have never failed to vote in every election for the last 46 years. I have held my noise many times and voted for the lessor of two evils. There are 15 other people running some I like some not so much all of them I could vote for even if it is not my favorite. But Trump will not get my vote period.

I'm with Hoot here. I refuse to vote for a pile of $hit just because it's not as deep as the other one.
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All I keep thinking is how everyone said that there was no way that Obama would get elected and the same is now happening with Trump. Every station is talking about him.  
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 I'm very conservative, but the disparaging remark Trump made about Jeb Bush's wife turned me off.  She's a decent, tax paying, law abiding American citizen.   It's one thing to skip the sugar coating, but it's another thing to become crass and classless.  I'm not a fan of silver-tongued anything, but in terms of political candidacy, it just seems totally inappropriate and it's exactly what the Left is looking for as it's further polarized the parties and further stained the conservative image in the minds of those who already see us the enemy.  

 I agree with your argument, but like another said, I would definitely have a problem voting for Trump.  Anyone considered
Ben Carson? He's not a career politician, he does NOT sugar coat (having publicly admonished Obama and his policies right in front of both he and Michelle), he subscribes to REAGANOMICS (no Keynesians here!),  and he definitely has the leadership credentials given his surgical background. He's also a minority which convervatives need if we are ever going to take back the reins on the country.   If he can get past the primary, he has my vote.  He's actually in the top 3 of the recent Fox and Gallup polls, but he doesn't receive respectable media coverage.  I assume this stems from worries from the Left and their media outlets; I know they view him as a threat.  (Trump is slowly being turned into Sara Palin and we all know how that rodeo went.)


 

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So who thinks Trump will actually get the nomination?  
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 Even if he got the primary, he'd likely be shamed by Hillary or any other can-do-no-wrong democrat.  He's already alienated (no pun intended) too many liberals (the current U.S. majority) and demonized conservative politicians and many conservative voters. It doesn't seem he has too many allies in Washington.  It's not about who's going win the primary, but about who can beat out Hilary. I vote Dr. Carter, but I don't think he'll get past the primary. That leaves Cruz and Walker. IMO.  
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I don't see myself voting for Trump, but so much can change during the debates.  It will be interesting with this many people in. 
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 I'm very conservative, but the disparaging remark Trump made about Jeb Bush's wife turned me off.  She's a decent, tax paying, law abiding American citizen.   It's one thing to skip the sugar coating, but it's another thing to become crass and classless.  I'm not a fan of silver-tongued anything, but in terms of political candidacy, it just seems totally inappropriate and it's exactly what the Left is looking for as it's further polarized the parties and further stained the conservative image in the minds of those who already see us the enemy.  

 I agree with your argument, but like another said, I would definitely have a problem voting for Trump.  Anyone considered
Ben Carson? He's not a career politician, he does NOT sugar coat (having publicly admonished Obama and his policies right in front of both he and Michelle), he subscribes to REAGANOMICS (no Keynesians here!),  and he definitely has the leadership credentials given his surgical background. He's also a minority which convervatives need if we are ever going to take back the reins on the country.   If he can get past the primary, he has my vote.  He's actually in the top 3 of the recent Fox and Gallup polls, but he doesn't receive respectable media coverage.  I assume this stems from worries from the Left and their media outlets; I know they view him as a threat.  (Trump is slowly being turned into Sara Palin and we all know how that rodeo went.)


 

Huge fan of Ben Carson. Have you read any of his books? He doesn't suffer from the same sins as Trump, who I'm not a particular fan of.
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I sure agree Trump doesn't have very much class but he sure is bringing up what a lot of us are thinking and there isn't any other candidate that will speak the truth as to what is happening in fear of not getting re-elected. I'm so tired of the lies and we the people getting taken for a ride.

Obama is going to finish destroying this country with his pen. He has done another land grab and has pardoned 46 drug convicted convicts with another 50 coming soon. Calling them non-violent offenders. What does he think all the killings in Chicago are over? What does he think when he sells drugs and the user dies? Dead is dead and because the dealer didn't shoot them it's non-violent.
Where does he think the users that don't work get the money to buy the drugs? Robberies, home invasions etc. There is a reason that crime goes down when the prison population goes up.

 
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Nevertooold - 2015-07-14 12:09 PM I sure agree Trump doesn't have very much class but he sure is bringing up what a lot of us are thinking and there isn't any other candidate that will speak the truth as to what is happening in fear of not getting re-elected. I'm so tired of the lies and we the people getting taken for a ride.



Obama is going to finish destroying this country with his pen. He has done another land grab and has pardoned 46 drug convicted convicts with another 50 coming soon. Calling them non-violent offenders. What does he think all the killings in Chicago are over? What does he think when he sells drugs and the user dies? Dead is dead and because the dealer didn't shoot them it's non-violent.

Where does he think the users that don't work get the money to buy the drugs? Robberies, home invasions etc. There is a reason that crime goes down when the prison population goes up.


 

Amen.  I too am tired of career politicians. The thing with Obama is he had no substantial leadership experience prior to his appointment.  He's SEVERLY wounded the nation with his policies, but I also beleive he's a puppet of George Soros.  That's where the pudding gets weird.  
If you don't mind my asking, what specific issues are you hoping the next presidential candidate will address? Obviously you are concerned with balancing the budget, but I wonder if we are beyond that.  Most economists subscribe to Keynesian economics which essentially stipulates that in order to contain the budget we need to spend more.  Idiotic, but they use the graphs and the math to sell it and they teach it in higher education, and students and the uninformed (zero common sense) public buy it, so what can we expect? When people fail to question "their betters" we land up in the situation we're now.  I questioned Keynesian economics throughout my studies and it landed me in some very hot water with certain professors, but at least I didn't drink that Kool-Aid.

Unfortunately, this great nation, on the precipice of higher social education and liberal preoccupation has quickly become a confederacy of dunces. 
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heartswideopen - 2015-07-13 9:19 PM  I'm very conservative, but the disparaging remark Trump made about Jeb Bush's wife turned me off.  She's a decent, tax paying, law abiding American citizen.   It's one thing to skip the sugar coating, but it's another thing to become crass and classless.  I'm not a fan of silver-tongued anything, but in terms of political candidacy, it just seems totally inappropriate and it's exactly what the Left is looking for as it's further polarized the parties and further stained the conservative image in the minds of those who already see us the enemy.  



 I agree with your argument, but like another said, I would definitely have a problem voting for Trump.  Anyone considered
Ben Carson? He's not a career politician, he does NOT sugar coat (having publicly admonished Obama and his policies right in front of both he and Michelle), he subscribes to REAGANOMICS (no Keynesians here!),  and he definitely has the leadership credentials given his surgical background. He's also a minority which convervatives need if we are ever going to take back the reins on the country.   If he can get past the primary, he has my vote.  He's actually in the top 3 of the recent Fox and Gallup polls, but he doesn't receive respectable media coverage.  I assume this stems from worries from the Left and their media outlets; I know they view him as a threat.  (Trump is slowly being turned into Sara Palin and we all know how that rodeo went.)




 
Huge fan of Ben Carson. Have you read any of his books? He doesn't suffer from the same sins as Trump, who I'm not a particular fan of.

  Huge fan of Ben Carson. Have you read any of his books? He doesn't suffer from the same sins as Trump, who I'm not a particular fan of. 

 I read Gifted Hands awhile back.  Recommend any specific titles?  I agree with you.  A lot of people disagree with me, but I would also appreciate another president who has the capacity to acknowledge and put God before him.   Carter does so and he never apologizes for it.  It is in no way up to me to condemn any man for his beliefs, but I can't say I've ever heard Trump publicly thank God for what he has, nor Obama.  It's quite sad that believing in a higher power is now associated with sub par intelligence. 
 
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My concerns are:

Close the border. Come in legal or don't come in at all. I agree with Ann Coulter..Adios America...We are becoming a third world country. Tired of paying for illegals while our Veterans are treated like crap.

The economy. It won't affect us too much because of our age. I'm concerned about what part of the America that I grew up in will be there for our daughter and grandson.

Healthcare. I see more and more people not being able to afford the affordable healthcare. We are both on Medicare now and it cost us between what SS takes out, RX and Supplement over $600.00 a month and I feel we are blessed as last year we were paying $500.00 a month with a $6,000.00 deductible. That is not health insurance. That is catastrophic insurance.

These are the most important items but I do have more. LOL Obama's land grabbing needs to end. The EPA is out of control. Quit punishing people that work. Stop with all the PC correctness BS.

 
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heartswideopen - 2015-07-14 8:40 PM
oija - 2015-07-14 6:29 AM
heartswideopen - 2015-07-13 9:19 PM  I'm very conservative, but the disparaging remark Trump made about Jeb Bush's wife turned me off.  She's a decent, tax paying, law abiding American citizen.   It's one thing to skip the sugar coating, but it's another thing to become crass and classless.  I'm not a fan of silver-tongued anything, but in terms of political candidacy, it just seems totally inappropriate and it's exactly what the Left is looking for as it's further polarized the parties and further stained the conservative image in the minds of those who already see us the enemy.  



 I agree with your argument, but like another said, I would definitely have a problem voting for Trump.  Anyone considered
Ben Carson? He's not a career politician, he does NOT sugar coat (having publicly admonished Obama and his policies right in front of both he and Michelle), he subscribes to REAGANOMICS (no Keynesians here!),  and he definitely has the leadership credentials given his surgical background. He's also a minority which convervatives need if we are ever going to take back the reins on the country.   If he can get past the primary, he has my vote.  He's actually in the top 3 of the recent Fox and Gallup polls, but he doesn't receive respectable media coverage.  I assume this stems from worries from the Left and their media outlets; I know they view him as a threat.  (Trump is slowly being turned into Sara Palin and we all know how that rodeo went.)




 
Huge fan of Ben Carson. Have you read any of his books? He doesn't suffer from the same sins as Trump, who I'm not a particular fan of.
  Huge fan of Ben Carson. Have you read any of his books? He doesn't suffer from the same sins as Trump, who I'm not a particular fan of. 



 I read Gifted Hands awhile back.  Recommend any specific titles?  I agree with you.  A lot of people disagree with me, but I would also appreciate another president who has the capacity to acknowledge and put God before him.   Carter does so and he never apologizes for it.  It is in no way up to me to condemn any man for his beliefs, but I can't say I've ever heard Trump publicly thank God for what he has, nor Obama.  It's quite sad that believing in a higher power is now associated with sub par intelligence. 

 

What I find sad is that the very educated blacks are hated by other blacks. They demonize them instead of looking at them as role models.
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I heard Clinton was speaking about La Raza. One of the big players in La Raza is the new HUD secretary Julian Castro. His mother was one of the founders. They are prepping him to be Clinton's VP. Changing America into a Socialist country, providing housing for the ghetto forced within our communities.  
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Nevertooold - 2015-07-14 1:09 PM I sure agree Trump doesn't have very much class but he sure is bringing up what a lot of us are thinking and there isn't any other candidate that will speak the truth as to what is happening in fear of not getting re-elected. I'm so tired of the lies and we the people getting taken for a ride.



Obama is going to finish destroying this country with his pen. He has done another land grab and has pardoned 46 drug convicted convicts with another 50 coming soon. Calling them non-violent offenders. What does he think all the killings in Chicago are over? What does he think when he sells drugs and the user dies? Dead is dead and because the dealer didn't shoot them it's non-violent.

Where does he think the users that don't work get the money to buy the drugs? Robberies, home invasions etc. There is a reason that crime goes down when the prison population goes up.


 

 No the President did not Pardon them.  He did cummute their sentences.  With strict conditions.  They must serve a minimum of ten years, NO problems while inside, serve probation as they would have.  And many are going to half way houses.  
The reason for this is these people are serving terms MUCH longer than they would have if they had been sentenced now.  Many are serving terms longer for selling marijuana than someome who is convicted of second degree murder.  
The President is not the first nor last politican to do this.  Huckabee has a couple of rather famous re offenders that he released.
karen  

 
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Nevertooold - 2015-07-14 1:09 PM

I sure agree Trump doesn't have very much class but he sure is bringing up what a lot of us are thinking and there isn't any other candidate that will speak the truth as to what is happening in fear of not getting re-elected. I'm so tired of the lies and we the people getting taken for a ride.

Obama is going to finish destroying this country with his pen. He has done another land grab and has pardoned 46 drug convicted convicts with another 50 coming soon. Calling them non-violent offenders. What does he think all the killings in Chicago are over? What does he think when he sells drugs and the user dies? Dead is dead and because the dealer didn't shoot them it's non-violent.
Where does he think the users that don't work get the money to buy the drugs? Robberies, home invasions etc. There is a reason that crime goes down when the prison population goes up.

 

Preach it girl!!!!! You are SO on point with a lot of what's wrong with the nation right now.

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People need to recognize that Obama will continue to do everything possible to divide this country. His actions and words are designed to be incendiary and brazenly provocative. He is a lame duck, and is only concerned with his legacy.
He never lets any crisis go to waste, in true Saul Alinski fashion. His goal is to destroy what took 225 years to build, and reconstruct his own evil vision of a socialist utopia. He divides citizens by race, creed, religion, sexual orientation, and economic class. This is incontestable. People are taking the bait.
For example, he had the audacity to tell our own troops that global warming is our greatest existential threat. He knew this would agitate clear thinking people, given the current state of affairs around the world. He knows he will always be secure in the minds of at least 40% of the citizens, mainly because they are stupid, lazy, and malleable. He lives off strife and divisions, like a vampire lives off human blood.
Thugs get shot by cops, and he sends his condolences, as well as minions to attend funeral services. This beautiful Steinle girl is cut down on Fisherman's Wharf like a dog by some felonious dirt ball illegal alien and he is mum.....no letter, no call, no comments. That about sums it up. His lemmings go out with talking points and accuse his critics of trying to exploit this tragedy.....and they spew this with the help of the MSM.
Obama told us what he was going to do, and he's doing it.
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Stitch4k9 - 2015-07-14 10:27 PM
Nevertooold - 2015-07-14 1:09 PM I sure agree Trump doesn't have very much class but he sure is bringing up what a lot of us are thinking and there isn't any other candidate that will speak the truth as to what is happening in fear of not getting re-elected. I'm so tired of the lies and we the people getting taken for a ride.



Obama is going to finish destroying this country with his pen. He has done another land grab and has pardoned 46 drug convicted convicts with another 50 coming soon. Calling them non-violent offenders. What does he think all the killings in Chicago are over? What does he think when he sells drugs and the user dies? Dead is dead and because the dealer didn't shoot them it's non-violent.

Where does he think the users that don't work get the money to buy the drugs? Robberies, home invasions etc. There is a reason that crime goes down when the prison population goes up.


 
 No the President did not Pardon them.  He did cummute their sentences.  With strict conditions.  They must serve a minimum of ten years, NO problems while inside, serve probation as they would have.  And many are going to half way houses.  

The reason for this is these people are serving terms MUCH longer than they would have if they had been sentenced now.  Many are serving terms longer for selling marijuana than someome who is convicted of second degree murder.  

The President is not the first nor last politican to do this.  Huckabee has a couple of rather famous re offenders that he released.

karen  


 

You are right I did use the wrong word but the end is all the same. He is letting out 89 drug criminals in November and I will bet by January we will be hearing about some of them going back in.  

One of the San Antonio TV news outlets did a story on one of them and it was anything but heartwarming. He is where he belongs. Sad but true.

As far as Huckabee...He shouldn't have done it either and his actions once again proves why it's wrong. Many got sentenced for drug crimes but didn't get sentenced for all the other crap they have done. Most drug dealers don't just deal drugs. They do all the other nice things that go along with it.

 
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Bear - 2015-07-15 11:26 AM People need to recognize that Obama will continue to do everything possible to divide this country. His actions and words are designed to be incendiary and brazenly provocative. He is a lame duck, and is only concerned with his legacy. He never lets any crisis go to waste, in true Saul Alinski fashion. His goal is to destroy what took 225 years to build, and reconstruct his own evil vision of a socialist utopia. He divides citizens by race, creed, religion, sexual orientation, and economic class. This is incontestable. People are taking the bait. For example, he had the audacity to tell our own troops that global warming is our greatest existential threat. He knew this would agitate clear thinking people, given the current state of affairs around the world. He knows he will always be secure in the minds of at least 40% of the citizens, mainly because they are stupid, lazy, and malleable. He lives off strife and divisions, like a vampire lives off human blood. Thugs get shot by cops, and he sends his condolences, as well as minions to attend funeral services. This beautiful Steinle girl is cut down on Fisherman's Wharf like a dog by some felonious dirt ball illegal alien and he is mum.....no letter, no call, no comments. That about sums it up. His lemmings go out with talking points and accuse his critics of trying to exploit this tragedy.....and they spew this with the help of the MSM. Obama told us what he was going to do, and he's doing it.

Bingo!  
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Nevertooold - 2015-07-14 1:09 PM I sure agree Trump doesn't have very much class but he sure is bringing up what a lot of us are thinking and there isn't any other candidate that will speak the truth as to what is happening in fear of not getting re-elected. I'm so tired of the lies and we the people getting taken for a ride.



Obama is going to finish destroying this country with his pen. He has done another land grab and has pardoned 46 drug convicted convicts with another 50 coming soon. Calling them non-violent offenders. What does he think all the killings in Chicago are over? What does he think when he sells drugs and the user dies? Dead is dead and because the dealer didn't shoot them it's non-violent.

Where does he think the users that don't work get the money to buy the drugs? Robberies, home invasions etc. There is a reason that crime goes down when the prison population goes up.


 
 No the President did not Pardon them.  He did cummute their sentences.  With strict conditions.  They must serve a minimum of ten years, NO problems while inside, serve probation as they would have.  And many are going to half way houses.  

The reason for this is these people are serving terms MUCH longer than they would have if they had been sentenced now.  Many are serving terms longer for selling marijuana than someome who is convicted of second degree murder.  

The President is not the first nor last politican to do this.  Huckabee has a couple of rather famous re offenders that he released.

karen  


 

You are right I did use the wrong word but the end is all the same. He is letting out 89 drug criminals in November and I will bet by January we will be hearing about some of them going back in.  

One of the San Antonio TV news outlets did a story on one of them and it was anything but heartwarming. He is where he belongs. Sad but true.

As far as Huckabee...He shouldn't have done it either and his actions once again proves why it's wrong. Many got sentenced for drug crimes but didn't get sentenced for all the other crap they have done. Most drug dealers don't just deal drugs. They do all the other nice things that go along with it.

 

Didn't a major drug lord just dig a hole and get out of prison somewhere? Add one more to the list, Odumba sanctioned or not. . . . .
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Nevertooold - 2015-07-14 1:09 PM I sure agree Trump doesn't have very much class but he sure is bringing up what a lot of us are thinking and there isn't any other candidate that will speak the truth as to what is happening in fear of not getting re-elected. I'm so tired of the lies and we the people getting taken for a ride.



Obama is going to finish destroying this country with his pen. He has done another land grab and has pardoned 46 drug convicted convicts with another 50 coming soon. Calling them non-violent offenders. What does he think all the killings in Chicago are over? What does he think when he sells drugs and the user dies? Dead is dead and because the dealer didn't shoot them it's non-violent.

Where does he think the users that don't work get the money to buy the drugs? Robberies, home invasions etc. There is a reason that crime goes down when the prison population goes up.


 
 No the President did not Pardon them.  He did cummute their sentences.  With strict conditions.  They must serve a minimum of ten years, NO problems while inside, serve probation as they would have.  And many are going to half way houses.  

The reason for this is these people are serving terms MUCH longer than they would have if they had been sentenced now.  Many are serving terms longer for selling marijuana than someome who is convicted of second degree murder.  

The President is not the first nor last politican to do this.  Huckabee has a couple of rather famous re offenders that he released.

karen  


 

You are right I did use the wrong word but the end is all the same. He is letting out 89 drug criminals in November and I will bet by January we will be hearing about some of them going back in.  

One of the San Antonio TV news outlets did a story on one of them and it was anything but heartwarming. He is where he belongs. Sad but true.

As far as Huckabee...He shouldn't have done it either and his actions once again proves why it's wrong. Many got sentenced for drug crimes but didn't get sentenced for all the other crap they have done. Most drug dealers don't just deal drugs. They do all the other nice things that go along with it.

 

Didn't a major drug lord just dig a hole and get out of prison somewhere? Add one more to the list, Odumba sanctioned or not. . . . .

He didn't tunnel out. Someone else tunneled in... and it's not a new tunnel. But this is all in one of Mexico's 2 max security prisons. He escaped from the other one several years ago.
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heartswideopen - 2015-07-13 9:19 PM  I'm very conservative, but the disparaging remark Trump made about Jeb Bush's wife turned me off.  She's a decent, tax paying, law abiding American citizen.   It's one thing to skip the sugar coating, but it's another thing to become crass and classless.  I'm not a fan of silver-tongued anything, but in terms of political candidacy, it just seems totally inappropriate and it's exactly what the Left is looking for as it's further polarized the parties and further stained the conservative image in the minds of those who already see us the enemy.  



 I agree with your argument, but like another said, I would definitely have a problem voting for Trump.  Anyone considered
Ben Carson? He's not a career politician, he does NOT sugar coat (having publicly admonished Obama and his policies right in front of both he and Michelle), he subscribes to REAGANOMICS (no Keynesians here!),  and he definitely has the leadership credentials given his surgical background. He's also a minority which convervatives need if we are ever going to take back the reins on the country.   If he can get past the primary, he has my vote.  He's actually in the top 3 of the recent Fox and Gallup polls, but he doesn't receive respectable media coverage.  I assume this stems from worries from the Left and their media outlets; I know they view him as a threat.  (Trump is slowly being turned into Sara Palin and we all know how that rodeo went.)




 
Huge fan of Ben Carson. Have you read any of his books? He doesn't suffer from the same sins as Trump, who I'm not a particular fan of.

  Huge fan of Ben Carson. Have you read any of his books? He doesn't suffer from the same sins as Trump, who I'm not a particular fan of. 

 I read Gifted Hands awhile back.  Recommend any specific titles?  I agree with you.  A lot of people disagree with me, but I would also appreciate another president who has the capacity to acknowledge and put God before him.   Carter does so and he never apologizes for it.  It is in no way up to me to condemn any man for his beliefs, but I can't say I've ever heard Trump publicly thank God for what he has, nor Obama.  It's quite sad that believing in a higher power is now associated with sub par intelligence. 
 

Check out America the Beautiful, Think Big, and One Vote. They'll tell you less about him personally and more about professionally/politically.
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Nevertooold - 2015-07-09 3:23 PM  A flag.

Trump/Cruz 2016 is looking better and better everyday.

Has this administration done anything to bring this country together? The small divide is now looking like the Grand Canyon. 




 

 Does anyone else see this a recipe for disaster - I will be very intersted to see how this plays out and if it plays out in a violent way what this current administration will have to say - both state and national. The divide is growing indeed. 


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Nevertooold - 2015-07-14 1:09 PM I sure agree Trump doesn't have very much class but he sure is bringing up what a lot of us are thinking and there isn't any other candidate that will speak the truth as to what is happening in fear of not getting re-elected. I'm so tired of the lies and we the people getting taken for a ride.



Obama is going to finish destroying this country with his pen. He has done another land grab and has pardoned 46 drug convicted convicts with another 50 coming soon. Calling them non-violent offenders. What does he think all the killings in Chicago are over? What does he think when he sells drugs and the user dies? Dead is dead and because the dealer didn't shoot them it's non-violent.

Where does he think the users that don't work get the money to buy the drugs? Robberies, home invasions etc. There is a reason that crime goes down when the prison population goes up.


 
 No the President did not Pardon them.  He did cummute their sentences.  With strict conditions.  They must serve a minimum of ten years, NO problems while inside, serve probation as they would have.  And many are going to half way houses.  

The reason for this is these people are serving terms MUCH longer than they would have if they had been sentenced now.  Many are serving terms longer for selling marijuana than someome who is convicted of second degree murder.  

The President is not the first nor last politican to do this.  Huckabee has a couple of rather famous re offenders that he released.

karen  


 
You are right I did use the wrong word but the end is all the same. He is letting out 89 drug criminals in November and I will bet by January we will be hearing about some of them going back in.  



One of the San Antonio TV news outlets did a story on one of them and it was anything but heartwarming. He is where he belongs. Sad but true.



As far as Huckabee...He shouldn't have done it either and his actions once again proves why it's wrong. Many got sentenced for drug crimes but didn't get sentenced for all the other crap they have done. Most drug dealers don't just deal drugs. They do all the other nice things that go along with it.


 
Didn't a major drug lord just dig a hole and get out of prison somewhere? Add one more to the list, Odumba sanctioned or not. . . . .

 Yes, in MEXICO.  Not sure how you can blame the President for that one.
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Nevertooold - 2015-07-14 1:09 PM I sure agree Trump doesn't have very much class but he sure is bringing up what a lot of us are thinking and there isn't any other candidate that will speak the truth as to what is happening in fear of not getting re-elected. I'm so tired of the lies and we the people getting taken for a ride.



Obama is going to finish destroying this country with his pen. He has done another land grab and has pardoned 46 drug convicted convicts with another 50 coming soon. Calling them non-violent offenders. What does he think all the killings in Chicago are over? What does he think when he sells drugs and the user dies? Dead is dead and because the dealer didn't shoot them it's non-violent.

Where does he think the users that don't work get the money to buy the drugs? Robberies, home invasions etc. There is a reason that crime goes down when the prison population goes up.


 
 No the President did not Pardon them.  He did cummute their sentences.  With strict conditions.  They must serve a minimum of ten years, NO problems while inside, serve probation as they would have.  And many are going to half way houses.  

The reason for this is these people are serving terms MUCH longer than they would have if they had been sentenced now.  Many are serving terms longer for selling marijuana than someome who is convicted of second degree murder.  

The President is not the first nor last politican to do this.  Huckabee has a couple of rather famous re offenders that he released.

karen  


 
You are right I did use the wrong word but the end is all the same. He is letting out 89 drug criminals in November and I will bet by January we will be hearing about some of them going back in.  



One of the San Antonio TV news outlets did a story on one of them and it was anything but heartwarming. He is where he belongs. Sad but true.



As far as Huckabee...He shouldn't have done it either and his actions once again proves why it's wrong. Many got sentenced for drug crimes but didn't get sentenced for all the other crap they have done. Most drug dealers don't just deal drugs. They do all the other nice things that go along with it.


 
Didn't a major drug lord just dig a hole and get out of prison somewhere? Add one more to the list, Odumba sanctioned or not. . . . .

 Yes, in MEXICO.  Not sure how you can blame the President for that one.

Sure we can!!
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Nevertooold - 2015-07-14 12:09 PM I sure agree Trump doesn't have very much class but he sure is bringing up what a lot of us are thinking and there isn't any other candidate that will speak the truth as to what is happening in fear of not getting re-elected. I'm so tired of the lies and we the people getting taken for a ride.



Obama is going to finish destroying this country with his pen. He has done another land grab and has pardoned 46 drug convicted convicts with another 50 coming soon. Calling them non-violent offenders. What does he think all the killings in Chicago are over? What does he think when he sells drugs and the user dies? Dead is dead and because the dealer didn't shoot them it's non-violent.

Where does he think the users that don't work get the money to buy the drugs? Robberies, home invasions etc. There is a reason that crime goes down when the prison population goes up.


 

Amen.  I too am tired of career politicians. The thing with Obama is he had no substantial leadership experience prior to his appointment.  He's SEVERLY wounded the nation with his policies, but I also beleive he's a puppet of George Soros.  That's where the pudding gets weird.  
If you don't mind my asking, what specific issues are you hoping the next presidential candidate will address? Obviously you are concerned with balancing the budget, but I wonder if we are beyond that.  Most economists subscribe to Keynesian economics which essentially stipulates that in order to contain the budget we need to spend more.  Idiotic, but they use the graphs and the math to sell it and they teach it in higher education, and students and the uninformed (zero common sense) public buy it, so what can we expect? When people fail to question "their betters" we land up in the situation we're now.  I questioned Keynesian economics throughout my studies and it landed me in some very hot water with certain professors, but at least I didn't drink that Kool-Aid.

Unfortunately, this great nation, on the precipice of higher social education and liberal preoccupation has quickly become a confederacy of dunces. 

I think with a little research you will find that government use of Keynesian economics has many times worked fine in a short run, but 18 trillion dollars will NOT be a short run situation. We need something else, and it's gonna hurt.
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"Liberal preoccupation has become the Confederacy of the Dunces."

I must commit that to memory.
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komet. - 2015-07-16 3:39 AM 

 
Didn't a major drug lord just dig a hole and get out of prison somewhere? Add one more to the list, Odumba sanctioned or not. . . . . He didn't tunnel out. Someone else tunneled in... and it's not a new tunnel. But this is all in one of Mexico's 2 max security prisons. He escaped from the other one several years ago.
The cement didn't have any rebarb in it so I'm sure we can say that the corrupt Mexican government made it so he could escape. Drugs is the #1 money maker for Mexico followed by illegals and legals sending money back to Mexico. 
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Trump for me, too.  I don't care if he's offensive - that's just what we need right now.  We need the truth served straight up and we need a BUSINESS MAN to start fixing it. 

Trump is not a politician.  I think we've had enough Politicians coupled with Political Correctness, dont you?

I won't be "offended" if you don't agree, LOL!!




 

 
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Trump for me, too.  I don't care if he's offensive - that's just what we need right now.  We need the truth served straight up and we need a BUSINESS MAN to start fixing it. 

Trump is not a politician.  I think we've had enough Politicians coupled with Political Correctness, dont you?

I won't be "offended" if you don't agree, LOL!!




 

 

I certainly agree. We had another business man running for president several years ago and he warned us this was coming. But the politicians are busy playing politics again... Some reporter asked Trump if he thought mccain was a war hero and now they are trying to twist his answer into something he did not mean. Politics as usual. They stand back and sling mud and pray that some of it sticks. It's way past time for a change.
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Runaway - 2015-07-18 12:10 PM

Trump for me, too.  I don't care if he's offensive - that's just what we need right now.  We need the truth served straight up and we need a BUSINESS MAN to start fixing it. 



Trump is not a politician.  I think we've had enough Politicians coupled with Political Correctness, dont you?



I won't be "offended" if you don't agree, LOL!!









 


 
I certainly agree. We had another business man running for president several years ago and he warned us this was coming. But the politicians are busy playing politics again... Some reporter asked Trump if he thought mccain was a war hero and now they are trying to twist his answer into something he did not mean. Politics as usual. They stand back and sling mud and pray that some of it sticks. It's way past time for a change.

Wouldn't it be nice if when a politician spins and twists stuff that someone could go and beat the crap out of them for lying? There is never consequences for their actions.
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svincent - 2015-07-09 9:32 PM Personally, I love Trump as a presidential nominee. This country NEEDS a businessman in the White House, not a politician. As for his political bouncing around, who cares? I can understand why he would do that. At various points in various discussions, I too find myself identifying with more than one party. Do I change my registration? No, but that's because I will vote with my pocketbook (Republican) before I vote with anything else. I identify most strongly as a Libertarian, but I want to have a say in the Republican primary - so I register Republican. I tend to have very conservative financial beliefs, and pretty liberal social beliefs - I'm right with God, I don't think it is the government's job to force everybody else to attempt to get right by pushing through legislation. I would like to see the end of people in general, but most definitely the liberal-minded, looking for things to be offended by; and also the end of government strong arming various people/organizations/agencies into adjusting to their mold of "correct."

 Did you see this??  Gave me a giggle..  Gene is one that says it like it is too.. He never says one way or the other who he would vote for but, there are a bunch of people out there that are kind of in the middle that don't know what they are. Republican or Democrat?? Gene answers that question.. LOL http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4358678491001/gene-simmons-talks-donald-trump-2016-election/?fb_ref=Default#sp=show-clips
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Nevertooold - 2015-07-09 3:23 PM  A flag.

Trump/Cruz 2016 is looking better and better everyday.

Has this administration done anything to bring this country together? The small divide is now looking like the Grand Canyon. 




 

 Does anyone else see this a recipe for disaster - I will be very intersted to see how this plays out and if it plays out in a violent way what this current administration will have to say - both state and national. The divide is growing indeed. 


http://www.wyff4.com/news/gov-haley-issues-statement-ahead-of-planned-kkk-rally/34201274

How did the rally go?
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 http://wspa.com/2015/07/18/fights-arrests-outside-kkk-rally-black-educator-protest/

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 http://wspa.com/2015/07/18/fights-arrests-outside-kkk-rally-black-educator-protest/

It wouldn't open for me

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Chandler's Mom - 2015-07-19 11:24 PM

cruise - 2015-07-19 6:10 AM

 http://wspa.com/2015/07/18/fights-arrests-outside-kkk-rally-black-educator-protest/

It wouldn't open for me

http://wspa.com/2015/07/18/fights-arrests-outside-kkk-rally-black-e...
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komet. - 2015-07-20 1:39 AM

Chandler's Mom - 2015-07-19 11:24 PM

cruise - 2015-07-19 6:10 AM

 http://wspa.com/2015/07/18/fights-arrests-outside-kkk-rally-black-educator-protest/

It wouldn't open for me

http://wspa.com/2015/07/18/fights-arrests-outside-kkk-rally-black-e...
  Thank you, Komet

Thanks Komet and Cruise.
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