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Location: Texas | I posted earlier in june that w sold our mare "Daizy" the sad thing is we didn't get to say goodbye, someone showed up with cash and took her home and the lady that sold her for us won't tell us any info on where she is or who bought her all I know is she is within 100 of the dallas area and she went to a little girl that is gonna jr rodeo on her.
She was my little sisters horse for the past 3 years and the first horse we ever bought, she just has a lot of sentimental value, and the deal was, we would get to meet the new owners and say goodbye, and my sister is just heartbroken over it. I know with her going to a rodeo family there is a chance someone on here could help me.
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Location: Texas | FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!!
I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Well...I don't give out other people's info without their permission...so maybe that's her thinking. Try asking her to pass on a letter or message to the new owners for you. That way if they know you would like to say goodbye or be in contact they can decide if they want to do that.
Honestly...I get that you all may just want that closure...but the new owners may not want to deal with the past owner. They don't know you...and didn't even deal with you on the sale...you had someone sell her for you. So it may just seem odd and a cause for concern that you want to have their info now.
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Location: Texas | TrailGirl - 2015-07-13 2:31 PM Well...I don't give out other people's info without their permission...so maybe that's her thinking. Try asking her to pass on a letter or message to the new owners for you. That way if they know you would like to say goodbye or be in contact they can decide if they want to do that. Honestly...I get that you all may just want that closure...but the new owners may not want to deal with the past owner. They don't know you...and didn't even deal with you on the sale...you had someone sell her for you. So it may just seem odd and a cause for concern that you want to have their info now.
I completely understand that. We asked for her to ask them if it was okay, no reply.
I would much rather know "No they don't want to talk to me" then just not knowing anything at all. The whole situation would make sense if this was the case. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends.
What it tells me is that this seller is selling the horses for a LOT more than requested and pocketing the rest.....she doesn't want that information out.......... |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends.
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outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends.
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That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I would not buy a horse if I could not talk to the previous owner and I would not sell one (I liked, lol) without talking to the buyer. Everybody does things different I guess.
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| grinandbareit - 2015-07-13 6:42 PM That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I would not buy a horse if I could not talk to the previous owner and I would not sell one (I liked, lol) without talking to the buyer. Everybody does things different I guess.
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM
outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends.
You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. |
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| Dynasty Equine sold a palomino paint mare this past week and I know Fallon does a lot of trading. (I've bought two "NFR caliber" horses from her. Both are able to run as advertised, but like other people have said, the second one I bought is BatSh**t crazy; I don't know if she didn't know that about him, but we all know Dynasty "turns over their product quickly")." Thus, it's not improbable your mare may have landed up at Dynasty and was sold again shortly thereafter. Might be worth it to inquire. Good luck! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met.
NO....I DON'T have a problem with that ....as long as she is honest about her selling tactics. Most sales are a on percentage basis......I would "guess" that since she doesn't want any contact between sellers and buyers that she is being "deceitful" about something! |
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komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met.
A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently. |
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Location: Texas | komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM
NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM
outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends.
You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met.
Actually, I DO have a problem with that... Let's say you have a horse worth $10K, you give it to someone to sell and they jack up the price to $20K... someone buys your horse and finds out the horse has an issue and it's only a $10K horse. Who is responsible for that? The owner or the broker? As the owner, you get sued for $20K. It's not good business practice not to have a contract when selling a horse. There needs to be a specific price set and a contract that says how much commission the broker will get and a disclosure from the owner with all the horse's information in it. Just like when you sell a house. Maybe I'll start a horse brokering business and perhaps a new trend in this industry. Someone sure needs to.
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Location: The edge of no where | BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
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| grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 7:48 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. Actually, I DO have a problem with that... Let's say you have a horse worth $10K, you give it to someone to sell and they jack up the price to $20K... someone buys your horse and finds out the horse has an issue and it's only a $10K horse. Who is responsible for that? The owner or the broker? As the owner, you get sued for $20K. It's not good business practice not to have a contract when selling a horse. There needs to be a specific price set and a contract that says how much commission the broker will get and a disclosure from the owner with all the horse's information in it. Just like when you sell a house. Maybe I'll start a horse brokering business and perhaps a new trend in this industry. Someone sure needs to.
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Location: Texas | MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM
BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT
So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
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Location: The edge of no where | grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
I am. Doing the research and pricing your horse at what the market will bear is your responsibility. I am NOT condoning any dishonesty, the broker needs to be aware of and disclose any issues the horse might have to the buyers.... but yes, if I tell someone I want a certain dollar amount and they're able to sell for more, then they're entitled to pocket whatever they've made. Call it the price of connections. I don't care. |
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grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
That is what commission on the horse is for. They take a certain percentage off of what the owner says that they want to sell the horse for. If they say $50k and the broker says they keep 20% of the sale price then they should be getting $10k. Not $30k if they jack up the price to $80k (They should be getting $16k then). |
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| grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
I agree with you Joy, I would not want to business with someone who did not have the integrity to tell me you have your horse priced too low, I can get more than what you are asking. It is up to the seller to then decide if they are good getting X amount and broker gets anything above it or price the horse higher and broker gets a comission. |
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ORD, post some pics of her for those of us around DFW.
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Location: Texas | outrundaizy - 2015-07-15 4:55 PM
These were on her sale ad so most recent I have.
She is tooooo cute! Have you posted pics on FB? Unless someone just bought her as a pet, I'm sure that if somebody saw her they would recognize her. Good luck!
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Thank you to everyone who is willing to help... This has left my little sister devastated and I know if we could just be reassured she went to a good home(im sure did, but you never know) it would be a much more peaceful situation.
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grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
That is what commission on the horse is for. They take a certain percentage off of what the owner says that they want to sell the horse for. If they say $50k and the broker says they keep 20% of the sale price then they should be getting $10k. Not $30k if they jack up the price to $80k (They should be getting $16k then ).
Well this is silly. I'm a broker and you bring a horse with a 10k price tag with me getting 20%. So I buy the horse from you for 8k, someone comes along and offers me 15k for it. Who gets the other 7k?
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Location: Texas | komet. - 2015-07-15 9:26 PM Tatum2 - 2015-07-15 1:44 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 1:33 PM grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious. That is what commission on the horse is for. They take a certain percentage off of what the owner says that they want to sell the horse for. If they say $50k and the broker says they keep 20% of the sale price then they should be getting $10k. Not $30k if they jack up the price to $80k (They should be getting $16k then ). Well this is silly. I'm a broker and you bring a horse with a 10k price tag with me getting 20%. So I buy the horse from you for 8k, someone comes along and offers me 15k for it. Who gets the other 7k?
I think that depends how the contract is, if the said broker is buying the horse and reselling then they are free to do as they please with the horse. If you are just contracted to sell the horse for the owner then you would make your commission and anymore would most likely be against the contract.
& yes the horse was sold for more than $1000, Im not too worried about her going to an auction, at least not right now. She was a good deal but not cheap. I'm just afraid if she gets in the wrong hands things might head south fast. I would not have sold her to a child that wasn't extremely confident because I think that's where things went wrong with her for us. And from what I understand she was sold to a young girl. It all just worries me, I know it's out of my control now, but you don't get into horses to make money or because the blood, sweat, and tears are fun, you do it because you love the animals. |
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Location: Texas | komet. - 2015-07-15 9:26 PM
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grinandbareit - 2015-07-15 12:41 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-15 9:06 AM BMW - 2015-07-14 11:05 PM NJJ - 2015-07-14 8:22 AM komet. - 2015-07-13 10:27 PM NJJ - 2015-07-13 2:56 PM outrundaizy - 2015-07-13 2:27 PM FlyingJT - 2015-07-13 1:56 PM why won't the lady give you the info? That seems fishy to me!!! I have no idea, I talked to someone that has bought a couple horses from her and apparently she won't give the buyers the previous owner information either.. It would be so easy if she would just tell us, or say the new owners don't wish to be contacted, something like that...
I'm at a loss here on what to do, this is only the 2nd horse we've ever sold and the 1st one went to our friends. You have a problem with that? Daizy gave her a price she had to have and anything more goes to the person that actually sold the horse. This is called Free Enterprise. I'm just wondering if these horses are going to a meat market. Not that THAT maters either as long as the base price was met. A prominent barrel horse trainer sold my mare. I told her what I wanted-she kept the mare about three weeks, called me one night and said the mare was sold. I got my full price-didn't ask what the mare sold for as I got what I wanted. It's done frequently.
At the end of the day, they're worth whatever someone will write a check for.
So sorry to be stealing this thread... BUT So let's say you want $50k for your horse. The broker keeps it for two weeks and sells it to some people for their daughter to do high school rodeos on, for $80k... You're good with that? Just curious.
That is what commission on the horse is for. They take a certain percentage off of what the owner says that they want to sell the horse for. If they say $50k and the broker says they keep 20% of the sale price then they should be getting $10k. Not $30k if they jack up the price to $80k (They should be getting $16k then ).
Well this is silly. I'm a broker and you bring a horse with a 10k price tag with me getting 20%. So I buy the horse from you for 8k, someone comes along and offers me 15k for it. Who gets the other 7k?
If you want to dish out the cash and assume all risk then more power to you. You can sell that horse for whatever price you want... It's your horse.
It would of course, be unethical for you to purchase the horse after the owner has come to you to sell the horse and you know that there is a buyer.
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Location: Driving, Grooming, or Saddling for a Kid! | Bawahaaaa!  Im sorry but you used unethical and barrel horse seller in the same sentence! |
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Location: sunny california | it is kinda funny that so many want to be seen as experts. when i go to an expert to sell my horse;I expect an honest transaction.Part of brokering a horse would be evaluating that horses worth. if i do not know what I have because I am a greenie then I expect the the expert will honestly evaluate the horse and get me the most money they can for the horse. upping the price and pocketing the extra is unethical on so many levels. |
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| The mare looks just like the mare on the dynasty equine site. She had her under the name of Buttercup. Im guessing Fallon was the broker? |
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Location: Texas | kramerica - 2015-07-17 1:05 AM The mare looks just like the mare on the dynasty equine site. She had her under the name of Buttercup. Im guessing Fallon was the broker?
No Fallon was not the broker, that's not the same horse. The one i'm looking for is a little bit lighter and she was sold by the name "Daizy", registered name "Cuttin Clarita" |
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Location: Where I am happiest | I just typed her name into google. I was hoping I would see a happy buyer post on her facebook page. If it was me, I'd post on that facebook page under the horse and ask who bought that horse.
http://valleyviewranch.net/sold_9.htm
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1579150539024262&id=100007879939207
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I keep hoping for that too.. It would make this much easier.
This a woman I see all the time in my area, I'm afraid if I take this to facebook it would look immature. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | outrundaizy - 2015-07-17 1:41 AM kramerica - 2015-07-17 1:05 AM The mare looks just like the mare on the dynasty equine site. She had her under the name of Buttercup. Im guessing Fallon was the broker? No Fallon was not the broker, that's not the same horse. The one i'm looking for is a little bit lighter and she was sold by the name "Daizy", registered name "Cuttin Clarita"
How funny... I've had several of the Clarita Frank horses. I have a grandson of his now. Frank stood in Oklahoma and produced a lot of really nice using horses. |
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Location: West Texas | I agree this is completely wrong. Did the seller contract have anything prohibiting you from the details of the sale or information of the buyer?
I had a customer that was interested in one of the valley view horses for sale. I will no longer be looking there at all or sending any business that way.
Also, to the people that think that it is ok to sell the horse above what the seller wants and keeping the money, what the hell is wrong with you? To the question wondering what to do with the extra money if you do sell it for more.....I have your answer:
YOU GIVE IT TO THE SELLER (YOUR CUSTOMER) AND KEEP THE COMMISSION ON THE FULL AMOUNT!!!
So if the seller wanted 5,000 and you sell for 10,000. The seller gets 8,000 instead of 4,000 and you get 2,000 instead of 1,000! I am a little worked up about the lack of morality that I am seeing here.
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