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        Location: on my horse | After Roanieponie11's thread about neutrena, which is what i've been feeding and thinking is safe, what's out there that's milled 100% ionophore free. Blue Bonnet isn't available in my area, LMF is, purina is, and triple crown is, etc.
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      Location: Beggs, OK | You'd probably be better off sourcing great quality forage and supplementing with grain if necessary. Even being here in the middle of the country in Oklahoma, I've pulled away from commercially mixed grain. It's been too much trouble, too expensive to fix the damage that has been done before you even know they've been affected, and too stressful to constantly worry about. |
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    Location: 31 lengths farms | I can't get Blue Bonnet where I'm at either so I stayed with Renew Gold which is clean. With CC's kidney issues I won't take a chance with other feeds. |
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    Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | So does this mean that no one knows about LMF? I have fed their ration balancer in the past and LOVED it for my horses. Would like to know if this is something that is "safe" as I have thought about going back to using it.
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         Location: North Dakota | Renew Gold, Standlee Hay products, according to another thread Progressive Nutrition is. I guess Purina is but I'm not a fan of their feeds. I'm going to try one of my horses on the Progressive and see how he does. The other is on a mix of RG, whole oats, and alfalfa pellets, plus a multivitamin/mineral supplement to balance it out. |
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        Location: on my horse | rachellyn80 - 2015-07-20 3:25 PM
You'd probably be better off sourcing great quality forage and supplementing with grain if necessary. Even being here in the middle of the country in Oklahoma, I've pulled away from commercially mixed grain. It's been too much trouble, too expensive to fix the damage that has been done before you even know they've been affected, and too stressful to constantly worry about.
I thought about that, we have excellent hay and pasture but they need a little more, not for weight but to help with bloom as the summer goes on as hard as we work I like to keep some kind of extra fat supplement on board. What would you recommend? Do you know anything about LMF? I remember that your horses were personally affected by ionophore poisoning and you've done an enormous amount of research. Please educate me! What type of grain would I supplement with if I avoided commercially mixed feeds? |
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       Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | I recently switched to Tribute Kalm Ultra. I talked with two different reps before making the change. Tribute feeds are processed in ionophore free facilities, the Kalm Ultra is 12% protein and 12% fat. It's really helping my older gals.
I was feeding Purina Ultium, I did really like it (especially on my young horses) but it seemed like everytime I turned around the price was going up again. :( |
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Great stuff - this is what I feed:
At Seminole Feed®, we are proud to have a plant that is free of all medications and ionophores. While we do manufacture a handful of livestock feeds, these feeds are made with the same ingredients as our horse feeds, so there is never a chance of contamination with an ingredient that will cause a horse harm.
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    Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | Many of the feeds that people mention are not available to those of us on the west coast. (Which is the area LMF is available AND formulated for.) |
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         Location: North Dakota | RacingQH - 2015-07-21 10:58 AM
Many of the feeds that people mention are not available to those of us on the west coast. (Which is the area LMF is available AND formulated for.)
Well that would explain why I've never heard of it. Try contacting the company if you want to know for sure |
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| I would call Steve Duran he works for LMF his number is on their site. I live close to him and personally know him he is a very nice guy, I'm sure they would love to answer your questions.
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| LMF is ionophore free - I checked into as I can get here too Tracy. I have fed Equine Senior for years and decided to try a bag of LMF - it made my gelding a bit hot and my older mare did not do well on it - I used the Showtime formula - back to equine senior. LMF only makes equine feeds and it is 100% safe. I would try it on another horse but it didn't work for the two I currently have. :) |
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    Location: MD | rachellyn80 - 2015-07-20 4:25 PM You'd probably be better off sourcing great quality forage and supplementing with grain if necessary. Even being here in the middle of the country in Oklahoma, I've pulled away from commercially mixed grain. It's been too much trouble, too expensive to fix the damage that has been done before you even know they've been affected, and too stressful to constantly worry about.
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    Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | brlraceaddict - 2015-07-21 12:44 PM LMF is ionophore free - I checked into as I can get here too Tracy. I have fed Equine Senior for years and decided to try a bag of LMF - it made my gelding a bit hot and my older mare did not do well on it - I used the Showtime formula - back to equine senior. LMF only makes equine feeds and it is 100% safe. I would try it on another horse but it didn't work for the two I currently have. :)
Thanks. :)
I only feed the Super Suppliment as it is a ration balancer. I don't feed regular "processed feeds". (Other than I did feed my orphan the LMF Development Concentrate. But only until hse was about 5 months old. Then I switched her to the Super Suppliment too. |
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      Location: Beggs, OK | CE's wrapn3 - 2015-07-21 2:51 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-07-20 4:25 PM You'd probably be better off sourcing great quality forage and supplementing with grain if necessary. Even being here in the middle of the country in Oklahoma, I've pulled away from commercially mixed grain. It's been too much trouble, too expensive to fix the damage that has been done before you even know they've been affected, and too stressful to constantly worry about. What do you feed Rachel?
We are still feeding Bluebonnet Intensify Senior to my old girls and Intensify Growth to my yearlings. They all get Omnis cubes free choice.
Our horses that are being used for competition have recently been transitioned off of grain and are 100% on Omnis Complete Performance cubes. When they go into their stalls in the morning they're getting approximately 10# of cubes and then in the evening before they go out they get another 5#. We give them a flake of grass hay as well and they rarely ever eat it. They are on pasture at night and have loose mineral and salt. I've never used Flax Seed as a fat source prior to this and have been very impressed with how the horses look and the mane and tail growth that we've seen.
I haven't sorted out what I want to use for the others just yet. Ultimately I want them off of commercially mixed grains and onto something that I can more carefully monitor myself. |
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      Location: Beggs, OK | This is definitely a feed company that I would have to check into for mine if I were in your area. I would want to know about the facilities that they mention in this quote:
Since 1981, LMF Feeds has been dedicated to providing high quality horse feeds for horsemen of the western United States. With cooperation of two independently owned product facilities, one in Spokane, WA and one in Keyes, CA. LMF continues to lead the way in producing the highest-quality feed formulas.
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-07-22 10:06 AM This is definitely a feed company that I would have to check into for mine if I were in your area. I would want to know about the facilities that they mention in this quote:Since 1981, LMF Feeds has been dedicated to providing high quality horse feeds for horsemen of the western United States. With cooperation of two independently owned product facilities, one in Spokane, WA and one in Keyes, CA. LMF continues to lead the way in producing the highest-quality feed formulas.http://lmffeeds.com/ Rachel - I checked into it as Spokane is only 90 miles from me - they only process horse feed and are telling me no ionophores are present in the manufacturing facility - period. As I told Tracy I did try a bag of the Showtime and it was way more than my gelding needed - I am back to Purina Equine Senior. Having said that though, I would try it on another horse - it just didn't work for the two I have. I also think there is too much molasses in it for my taste. I can take a picture of the feed if you want to see what it looks like. I need to find someone to give away half this bag to. :) I want to add that I may give a bag of the senior a try on my 22 year old mare - it's a pelleted form. I'll snap a picture of the Showtime formula for you this evening.
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