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Location: In the Hills of Texas | My husband and I can't wrap our heads around all of this. Sick. The main stream media is staying away from this story. Cowards. |
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Location: Florida.. | absolutely pathetic monstors. Im speechless to. I dont see how this can be legal and others turn a blind eye to this.. |
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Location: Up and over to the right | What is SUPPOSED to be done with the fetal bodies and matter once it has been removed from the mother? Donating parts for research (perhaps to help with disabilities or so) I can understand but selling is wrong. |
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| ChasingCans04 - 2015-07-28 8:22 PM
What is SUPPOSED to be done with the fetal bodies and matter once it has been removed from the mother? Donating parts for research (perhaps to help with disabilities or so) I can understand but selling is wrong.
How about showing respect for the human beings they are. |
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Location: Up and over to the right | That's not the question I asked…
Why is it any different for the bodies to be thrown into the garbage and be forgotten about rather than be used for science research to help future children/fetus'/mothers? As I said - donating and selling are different, making $ is wrong in the matter. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Well Chasingcans - hello - late term abortions - crazy if you don't think they are babies. Here is a picture of my grandbaby at just 20 weeks taken Friday. Don't tell me it is just nothing. BTW - my daughter is a NICU nurse and has saved many a baby at age 23 weeks and forward term babies - who are now 5 and 6 years old with no problems. Tell that to her and her team of nurses. For a person to perform an abortion just because - they are a complete sicko and in my opinion are going straight to hell for it. And, please if I read your question wrong and you consider late term wrong, I am sorry I jumped on you. But, if I read it right, - well it is what it is.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Not even Planned Parenthood disputes the substance of this expose'.......just the "tone".
Note in the video how the fetus is dismembered.....basically drawn and quartered, and the little arms, legs, and head are dissected on a Petri dish for tissues and organs that generate revenue.
Note the contrast in today's twisted world. A man hunts and kills a beloved lion and there is an outcry for his hanging. Meanwhile we are forced to fund PP, so they can continue to use abortion and infanticide as a political tool for fooling gullible women. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Bear - 2015-07-29 9:00 AM Not even Planned Parenthood disputes the substance of this expose'.......just the "tone". Note in the video how the fetus is dismembered.....basically drawn and quartered, and the little arms, legs, and head are dissected on a Petri dish for tissues and organs that generate revenue. Note the contrast in today's twisted world. A man hunts and kills a beloved lion and there is an outcry for his hanging. Meanwhile we are forced to fund PP, so they can continue to use abortion and infanticide as a political tool for fooling gullible women.
That is what my husband and I were talking about last night. How could they "convince" women or "go along with" or even say it is all right to do at that stage of life? Sick bastards is what they are.
And, you are so right. Up in arms about a lion? It has gotten more attention. Or the smoke from BBQ's in some counties in FL. The list goes on and on. But not the important ones like life.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Of course this should be about the "Woman's right to choose" and "women's reproductive health". Forget the fact that the baby is being treated like a fresh arrival at Auschwitz......some selected to be gassed, while others are allowed to live. Forget the fact that the baby has no right to choose.
It's those damm extremists trying to control your uterus. |
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Location: The edge of no where | I don't understand how anyone can watch this and not be sickened. How do they justify continuing to fund PP? If I had my way, they'd be closed down and people would be serving jail time, but it doesn't appear that will happen.
Can't they go after them for admiting on camera that they change the procedure used depending on which parts they're going after? I just don't understand how this isn't a bigger issue. It's a terrifying statement about our society.
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Location: Beggs, OK | Bear - 2015-07-29 8:59 AM Of course this should be about the "Woman's right to choose" and "women's reproductive health". Forget the fact that the baby is being treated like a fresh arrival at Auschwitz......some selected to be gassed, while others are allowed to live. Forget the fact that the baby has no right to choose. It's those damm extremists trying to control your uterus.
Am I wrong to think that they aren't stopping these babies hearts before they begin the dissection? Wouldn't digoxin or any other drug damage the tissue that they would want to sell?
What some people don't seem to be grasping is that these people are killing viable babies as well. They can't deliver them and then kill them for their organs because that would be "illegal". They have to kill the baby before it's removed from the female (I cannot use the term mother in this instance) to follow protocol. You can "terminate" a pregnancy at any time....meaning you can kill a baby anytime before it's actually removed from it's mother....then reduce the female's emotional turmoil by telling her that she can donate the useable "tissue" for research to help others. SICK SICK SICK |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | rachellyn80 - 2015-07-29 9:35 AM
Bear - 2015-07-29 8:59 AM Of course this should be about the "Woman's right to choose" and "women's reproductive health". Forget the fact that the baby is being treated like a fresh arrival at Auschwitz......some selected to be gassed, while others are allowed to live. Forget the fact that the baby has no right to choose. It's those damm extremists trying to control your uterus.
Am I wrong to think that they aren't stopping these babies hearts before they begin the dissection? Wouldn't digoxin or any other drug damage the tissue that they would want to sell?
What some people don't seem to be grasping is that these people are killing viable babies as well. They can't deliver them and then kill them for their organs because that would be "illegal". They have to kill the baby before it's removed from the female (I cannot use the term mother in this instance) to follow protocol. You can "terminate" a pregnancy at any time....meaning you can kill a baby anytime before it's actually removed from it's mother....then reduce the female's emotional turmoil by telling her that she can donate the useable "tissue" for research to help others. SICK SICK SICK
I'm no expert, and I've never even seen an abortion, but I'm familiar with most of their techniques. I can tell you what they do.....then you can understand why they are opposed to fully informed consent.
1.) D&C.....simplest. Done in early term. The fetus is mascerated and scraped out. This is probably what most uninformed people envision.
2.) suction-aspiration. A bit more " crunchy". Uses a suction tube with a sharp end so the baby can be removed in chunks, so as to avoid traumatizing the mother. The fetus and placenta are neatly sucked into a bottle for handy disposal.
Neither of the above methods would be useful for "harvesting" organs. It pretty much looks like hamburger and blood clots......maybe with an occasional thumb that the baby was sucking, but you have to look closely.
3.) Dilation and Evacuation. Dried seaweed is inserted into the cervical canal, and as it absorbs moisture it expands and dilates the cervix, sufficient enough to allow the abortionist to reach up inside and tear the baby's limbs off one at a time. Eventually, the head is all that remains. That gets smashed and removed. To be sure they have removed the baby completely, they place the limbs and body parts on a tray or dish and put them together like a puzzle to be sure everything has been removed.
4.) Prostaglandin Extraction. This is a handy little tool for getting rid of a pesky burdensome urchin. Usually it is done in mid to late term abortions. Prostaglandin induces labor, which is pretty forceful and traumatic to the baby, which usually kills them in the process. Once in a while, and older, stronger baby is born alive. They avoid this "complication" by injecting a feticide into the baby's heart under ultrasound guidance. That euthanizes them. Then the prostaglandin is given to induce labor.....producing an intact dead baby. I think these were the ones Kermit Gosnell used to enjoy collecting like butterflies. I'm sure they varied in appearance, just like butterflies. Maybe some were cuter than others.
5.) Dilation and Extraction. Another reserved for later term abortions. Using ultrasound the abortionist manipulates the baby in the uterus to be sure it is coming out as a breech. He uses a long forceps and grabs a leg or arm to do this maneuver. The baby is then pulled out the birth canal feet first. Often the baby is still alive so the legs will be kicking, etc.... Since one cannot kill the baby once it is born alive, they cleverly devised a neat technique of exterminating the life of the baby right before the head is delivered, which is the only part remaining in the mother. They insert a blunt surgical scissors into the base of his/her skull and jam them into the head....opening and closing the scissors to mascerate the brain. Once that is done, the brain is sucked out, the skull collapses, and the brainless baby is otherwise removed intact. This is another handy late term technique. |
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Location: The edge of no where | Bear - 2015-07-29 11:46 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-07-29 9:35 AM Bear - 2015-07-29 8:59 AM Of course this should be about the "Woman's right to choose" and "women's reproductive health". Forget the fact that the baby is being treated like a fresh arrival at Auschwitz......some selected to be gassed, while others are allowed to live. Forget the fact that the baby has no right to choose. It's those damm extremists trying to control your uterus. Am I wrong to think that they aren't stopping these babies hearts before they begin the dissection? Wouldn't digoxin or any other drug damage the tissue that they would want to sell?
What some people don't seem to be grasping is that these people are killing viable babies as well. They can't deliver them and then kill them for their organs because that would be "illegal". They have to kill the baby before it's removed from the female (I cannot use the term mother in this instance) to follow protocol. You can "terminate" a pregnancy at any time....meaning you can kill a baby anytime before it's actually removed from it's mother....then reduce the female's emotional turmoil by telling her that she can donate the useable "tissue" for research to help others. SICK SICK SICK I'm no expert, and I've never even seen an abortion, but I'm familiar with most of their techniques. I can tell you what they do.....then you can understand why they are opposed to fully informed consent. 1. ) D&C.....simplest. Done in early term. The fetus is mascerated and scraped out. This is probably what most uninformed people envision. 2. ) suction-aspiration. A bit more " crunchy". Uses a suction tube with a sharp end so the baby can be removed in chunks, so as to avoid traumatizing the mother. The fetus and placenta are neatly sucked into a bottle for handy disposal. Neither of the above methods would be useful for "harvesting" organs. It pretty much looks like hamburger and blood clots......maybe with an occasional thumb that the baby was sucking, but you have to look closely. 3. ) Dilation and Evacuation. Dried seaweed is inserted into the cervical canal, and as it absorbs moisture it expands and dilates the cervix, sufficient enough to allow the abortionist to reach up inside and tear the baby's limbs off one at a time. Eventually, the head is all that remains. That gets smashed and removed. To be sure they have removed the baby completely, they place the limbs and body parts on a tray or dish and put them together like a puzzle to be sure everything has been removed. 4. ) Prostaglandin Extraction. This is a handy little tool for getting rid of a pesky burdensome urchin. Usually it is done in mid to late term abortions. Prostaglandin induces labor, which is pretty forceful and traumatic to the baby, which usually kills them in the process. Once in a while, and older, stronger baby is born alive. They avoid this "complication" by injecting a feticide into the baby's heart under ultrasound guidance. That euthanizes them. Then the prostaglandin is given to induce labor.....producing an intact dead baby. I think these were the ones Kermit Gosnell used to enjoy collecting like butterflies. I'm sure they varied in appearance, just like butterflies. Maybe some were cuter than others. 5. ) Dilation and Extraction. Another reserved for later term abortions. Using ultrasound the abortionist manipulates the baby in the uterus to be sure it is coming out as a breech. He uses a long forceps and grabs a leg or arm to do this maneuver. The baby is then pulled out the birth canal feet first. Often the baby is still alive so the legs will be kicking, etc.... Since one cannot kill the baby once it is born alive, they cleverly devised a neat technique of exterminating the life of the baby right before the head is delivered, which is the only part remaining in the mother. They insert a blunt surgical scissors into the base of his/her skull and jam them into the head....opening and closing the scissors to mascerate the brain. Once that is done, the brain is sucked out, the skull collapses, and the brainless baby is otherwise removed intact. This is another handy late term technique.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I also understand when you go into research, medicine etc., you perform certain things. But, how in the world, would you actually have the nerve, guts, stomach, balls to pick up these little dead babies after these procedures and cut them into the pieces to sell?
This part is way too mind boggling for me to even comprehend. |
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| And here is the kicker. It looks like the IG is going to investigate .......Wait for it ........The group that made the video's!!!!! Looks like PP skates again.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | It isn't about the babies. The pro abortion people will chastise you for your ignorance, because they know these are just masses of cells. They aren't alive to begin with. At the most, they are fetuses. They can't feel their arms and legs being torn off. They may kick a little, but it's just a reflex by a clump of cells. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Bear - 2015-07-29 3:32 PM It isn't about the babies. The pro abortion people will chastise you for your ignorance, because they know these are just masses of cells. They aren't alive to begin with. At the most, they are fetuses. They can't feel their arms and legs being torn off. They may kick a little, but it's just a reflex by a clump of cells.
Surely you jest. That little baby on Friday had the hiccups. Moved when they moved the wand etc. I will say it again, they are a bunch of crazy ass bastards if they truly believe it in their hearts.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | 3canstorun - 2015-07-29 2:54 PM
Bear - 2015-07-29 3:32 PM It isn't about the babies. The pro abortion people will chastise you for your ignorance, because they know these are just masses of cells. They aren't alive to begin with. At the most, they are fetuses. They can't feel their arms and legs being torn off. They may kick a little, but it's just a reflex by a clump of cells.
Surely you jest. That little baby on Friday had the hiccups. Moved when they moved the wand etc. I will say it again, they are a bunch of crazy ass bastards if they truly believe it in their hearts.
PS - I know you are being a smart ass.
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rachellyn80 - 2015-07-29 9:35 AM
Bear - 2015-07-29 8:59 AM Of course this should be about the "Woman's right to choose" and "women's reproductive health". Forget the fact that the baby is being treated like a fresh arrival at Auschwitz......some selected to be gassed, while others are allowed to live. Forget the fact that the baby has no right to choose. It's those damm extremists trying to control your uterus.
Am I wrong to think that they aren't stopping these babies hearts before they begin the dissection? Wouldn't digoxin or any other drug damage the tissue that they would want to sell?
What some people don't seem to be grasping is that these people are killing viable babies as well. They can't deliver them and then kill them for their organs because that would be "illegal". They have to kill the baby before it's removed from the female (I cannot use the term mother in this instance) to follow protocol. You can "terminate" a pregnancy at any time....meaning you can kill a baby anytime before it's actually removed from it's mother....then reduce the female's emotional turmoil by telling her that she can donate the useable "tissue" for research to help others. SICK SICK SICK
I'm no expert, and I've never even seen an abortion, but I'm familiar with most of their techniques. I can tell you what they do.....then you can understand why they are opposed to fully informed consent.
1. ) D&C.....simplest. Done in early term. The fetus is mascerated and scraped out. This is probably what most uninformed people envision.
2. ) suction-aspiration. A bit more " crunchy". Uses a suction tube with a sharp end so the baby can be removed in chunks, so as to avoid traumatizing the mother. The fetus and placenta are neatly sucked into a bottle for handy disposal.
Neither of the above methods would be useful for "harvesting" organs. It pretty much looks like hamburger and blood clots......maybe with an occasional thumb that the baby was sucking, but you have to look closely.
3. ) Dilation and Evacuation. Dried seaweed is inserted into the cervical canal, and as it absorbs moisture it expands and dilates the cervix, sufficient enough to allow the abortionist to reach up inside and tear the baby's limbs off one at a time. Eventually, the head is all that remains. That gets smashed and removed. To be sure they have removed the baby completely, they place the limbs and body parts on a tray or dish and put them together like a puzzle to be sure everything has been removed.
4. ) Prostaglandin Extraction. This is a handy little tool for getting rid of a pesky burdensome urchin. Usually it is done in mid to late term abortions. Prostaglandin induces labor, which is pretty forceful and traumatic to the baby, which usually kills them in the process. Once in a while, and older, stronger baby is born alive. They avoid this "complication" by injecting a feticide into the baby's heart under ultrasound guidance. That euthanizes them. Then the prostaglandin is given to induce labor.....producing an intact dead baby. I think these were the ones Kermit Gosnell used to enjoy collecting like butterflies. I'm sure they varied in appearance, just like butterflies. Maybe some were cuter than others.
5. ) Dilation and Extraction. Another reserved for later term abortions. Using ultrasound the abortionist manipulates the baby in the uterus to be sure it is coming out as a breech. He uses a long forceps and grabs a leg or arm to do this maneuver. The baby is then pulled out the birth canal feet first. Often the baby is still alive so the legs will be kicking, etc.... Since one cannot kill the baby once it is born alive, they cleverly devised a neat technique of exterminating the life of the baby right before the head is delivered, which is the only part remaining in the mother. They insert a blunt surgical scissors into the base of his/her skull and jam them into the head....opening and closing the scissors to mascerate the brain. Once that is done, the brain is sucked out, the skull collapses, and the brainless baby is otherwise removed intact. This is another handy late term technique.
This is absolutely horrible! I cried reading this... How anyone can choose to murder an innocent little person is so beyond my comprehension. And to be making a huge profit on it just makes me sick..
I had an abortion suggested to me after they told me there might be something wrong with my baby.. They said I needed to decide quickly as I was already 19 weeks along. I can't understand how any woman can feel their baby moving for weeks, see ultrasounds of their perfect little baby and want to "get rid of it", as I've heard people say..
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Location: Broxton, Ga | MS2011 - 2015-07-28 2:15 PM
Bear - 2015-07-29 11:46 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-07-29 9:35 AM Bear - 2015-07-29 8:59 AM Of course this should be about the "Woman's right to choose" and "women's reproductive health". Forget the fact that the baby is being treated like a fresh arrival at Auschwitz......some selected to be gassed, while others are allowed to live. Forget the fact that the baby has no right to choose. It's those damm extremists trying to control your uterus. Am I wrong to think that they aren't stopping these babies hearts before they begin the dissection? Wouldn't digoxin or any other drug damage the tissue that they would want to sell?
What some people don't seem to be grasping is that these people are killing viable babies as well. They can't deliver them and then kill them for their organs because that would be "illegal". They have to kill the baby before it's removed from the female (I cannot use the term mother in this instance) to follow protocol. You can "terminate" a pregnancy at any time....meaning you can kill a baby anytime before it's actually removed from it's mother....then reduce the female's emotional turmoil by telling her that she can donate the useable "tissue" for research to help others. SICK SICK SICK I'm no expert, and I've never even seen an abortion, but I'm familiar with most of their techniques. I can tell you what they do.....then you can understand why they are opposed to fully informed consent. 1. ) D&C.....simplest. Done in early term. The fetus is mascerated and scraped out. This is probably what most uninformed people envision. 2. ) suction-aspiration. A bit more " crunchy". Uses a suction tube with a sharp end so the baby can be removed in chunks, so as to avoid traumatizing the mother. The fetus and placenta are neatly sucked into a bottle for handy disposal. Neither of the above methods would be useful for "harvesting" organs. It pretty much looks like hamburger and blood clots......maybe with an occasional thumb that the baby was sucking, but you have to look closely. 3. ) Dilation and Evacuation. Dried seaweed is inserted into the cervical canal, and as it absorbs moisture it expands and dilates the cervix, sufficient enough to allow the abortionist to reach up inside and tear the baby's limbs off one at a time. Eventually, the head is all that remains. That gets smashed and removed. To be sure they have removed the baby completely, they place the limbs and body parts on a tray or dish and put them together like a puzzle to be sure everything has been removed. 4. ) Prostaglandin Extraction. This is a handy little tool for getting rid of a pesky burdensome urchin. Usually it is done in mid to late term abortions. Prostaglandin induces labor, which is pretty forceful and traumatic to the baby, which usually kills them in the process. Once in a while, and older, stronger baby is born alive. They avoid this "complication" by injecting a feticide into the baby's heart under ultrasound guidance. That euthanizes them. Then the prostaglandin is given to induce labor.....producing an intact dead baby. I think these were the ones Kermit Gosnell used to enjoy collecting like butterflies. I'm sure they varied in appearance, just like butterflies. Maybe some were cuter than others. 5. ) Dilation and Extraction. Another reserved for later term abortions. Using ultrasound the abortionist manipulates the baby in the uterus to be sure it is coming out as a breech. He uses a long forceps and grabs a leg or arm to do this maneuver. The baby is then pulled out the birth canal feet first. Often the baby is still alive so the legs will be kicking, etc.... Since one cannot kill the baby once it is born alive, they cleverly devised a neat technique of exterminating the life of the baby right before the head is delivered, which is the only part remaining in the mother. They insert a blunt surgical scissors into the base of his/her skull and jam them into the head....opening and closing the scissors to mascerate the brain. Once that is done, the brain is sucked out, the skull collapses, and the brainless baby is otherwise removed intact. This is another handy late term technique.
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