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Location: Texas | My sweet and wonderful, once in a lifetime horse Bunny has a suspensory injury. My mom is the eternal optimist and thinks she will heal fast but the vet and I are not as much... he's saying 6 months at least and I'm saying I might as well breed her next year and not even try to rush her back on a schedule. She started running kind of "off" in early June and our 6th vet trip since June we finally got a strong answer. Since this has been going on for at least two months he's saying its not going to be a quick fix and I absolutely agree. I have to go back to get a better ultrasound to see the extent of everything because she had a lot of fluid from the nerve blocks- it was making it hard to visualize her suspensory. So as of now it's strict stall rest until we go back to see the severity of it. |
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Location: Minnesota | So very sorry to hear this. Many prayers for you and your horse.  |
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Location: MI | So sorry...hope she heals quick for you, but I know it's better not to rush... |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | So sorry for your unfortunate circumstances!! My guy had a hind injury last September and I brought him back slow (didn't run until July) and then found out both fronts are now bothering him. It's a never ending cycle it seems like. Good luck! |
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You get what you give
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Location: Texas | Lucy tore the same one 3?4? years ago and the best thing I did for her was breed her. I did PRP and rehabbed her and she still just wasn't coming back quite right.. I think just letting her relax for a year was good for her body and mind. I'm going to be so busy with school anyway, I wasn't sure how much I would get to run next year anyway. |
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I just read the headlines
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| Hugs to you, I am so sorry. On the other hand, you always amaze me with your upbeat attitude. |
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| So sorry Lauren . You have had more than your fair share of horse injuries. Sweat her leg while she is stalled. You never know,LM healed from his first tear much quicker than collier expected, his had been hurt for a while too before finally diagnosed. I think you have a pen of once in a lifetime horses, you have some NICE young ones!
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  That's White "Man" to You
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| Sorry to hear this Lauren. |
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The Resident Destroyer of Liberal Logic
Location: PNW | Oh Lauren :( hugs to you and Bunny.... I'm so sorry to hear this. |
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The Advice Guru
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| I would look into stem cells, less scar tissue and speeds up the healing.
Good luck |
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Location: Texas | Have heard great things from people who have used runners relief. |
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 My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | Sorry to hear this----I'll add her to the (unfortunately) growing list of hurt or sick horses of our barrel buddies that are on my prayer list. And I'm gonna vote with your mom on this!!! |
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Location: Montana | I'm sorry Lauren. Hope she heals soon, but I'm sure she would have a nice baby should your give her some rest. |
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You get what you give
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Location: Texas | I have runners relief which i will use.
I can't afford stem cells on her at this time. |
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UGH! I know it's disappointing, but remember, God has a plan! Keep your chin up and keep moving forward... Your time will come sweet pea!
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Location: The edge of no where | I'm so sorry....I think trying to keep horses sound is the most frustrating part of this crazy stupid wonderful sport. She would have an awfully nice baby if you chose to breed her. Definitely warrants a good long cry and probably ice cream and wine. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | I just started riding my mare again after being off her for over one year. She had EPM, a suspensory injury and probably some other stuff that we were not able to pin-point after multiple vet visits and thousands of dollars later.
It has been a very long and rough year, so I can really understand how you are feeling. Evaluate how she is later this year and then consider breeding her if she is not right yet. I tried to get back on my mare a few times over the past year, but she made it clear that she was not ready yet. This time around she is doing much better, however I'm still not sure of she will return to her previous level.
Good luck and hugs. |
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| casualdust07 - 2015-08-03 9:11 PM I have runners relief which i will use. I can't afford stem cells on her at this time.
If its not torn then shockwave will help a lot...and its about 250/treatment so way cheaper than stem cells etc.
I feel your pain....mine strained her collateral ligament just as she really started working awesome this spring. So she's bred....at first I was really depressed and then I got a 3yr old to start and now that I see her belly growing I am getting excited....good luck to you! |
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Location: NE Texas | So sorry, Lauren. I hope that she comes back strong for you! Keep you chin up and know that there is plan for you and your outstanding ponies. I will sure say a prayer for your mare....and for you as I know you have alot on your plate.
You seriously might think about giving Dr. Schell at www.nouvelleresearch.com a shout. He too is a vet, but has continued his education beyond traditional medicine, and he truly healed my horse when 4 other very competent vets were left scratching their heads. I think with you being in vet school, you and he might have some interesting conversations regarding your mare. :) |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | So sorry. My gelding did that last year and we've just given him some time. Hopefully they'll both come back strong. |
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Location: Never in one place long | I had the same thing happen to a gelding I had JUST bought for 10k and I was heartbroken as well, the vet said he didn't know if he'd ever run again but I did exactly as the vet instructed and more and less than 4 mos later, I got the approval to leg him back up! I was nervous at first, took a while for me to convince myself he was ok but now he's been running over 3yrs with NO incidentsw whatsoever, he made a complete recovery, the vet couldn't believe it. Hopefully this is an inspiring story for you! |
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Location: Northern CA | Find a "lameness" vet, if you aren't already working with one. The fact that it took 6 visits to pin point a suspensory worries me. I did the same thing with a couple horses I have had, now I will not use anyone other than a lameness/ performance horse vet for legs. It's like going to a general practioner for an orthopedic injury, just isn't the same.
I have a lot of faith in stem cell, and a GOOD/proven rehab program, many times no justice is done with time off. |
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| So sorry ..... is it a hind or front? The prognosis for hind limbs is worse unfortunately.
My good horse has been off for the last 6 months with bilateral hind limb suspensory branch tears. Last u/s showed just scarring, now I am stressing on what to do to try to cut down on the scar tissue - as you know they are much more likely to tear at the scar tissue again. I have heard good things about stem cell injections, but have never tried them myself. ... I took the IVAS acupuncture course a few years ago, so I may look up some acupoints to needle or moxa. I've had good luck needling ligament damage in dogs, so may as well experiment on my own horse, LOL....anyway...sending prayers for healing your way!! |
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You get what you give
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Location: Texas | 2H~QH - 2015-08-04 2:42 PM
So sorry ..... is it a hind or front? The prognosis for hind limbs is worse unfortunately.
My good horse has been off for the last 6 months with bilateral hind limb suspensory branch tears. Last u/s showed just scarring, now I am stressing on what to do to try to cut down on the scar tissue - as you know they are much more likely to tear at the scar tissue again. I have heard good things about stem cell injections, but have never tried them myself. ... I took the IVAS acupuncture course a few years ago, so I may look up some acupoints to needle or moxa. I've had good luck needling ligament damage in dogs, so may as well experiment on my own horse, LOL....anyway...sending prayers for healing your way!!
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Location: Texas | halter_ego - 2015-08-04 11:51 AM
Find a "lameness" vet, if you aren't already working with one. The fact that it took 6 visits to pin point a suspensory worries me. I did the same thing with a couple horses I have had, now I will not use anyone other than a lameness/ performance horse vet for legs. It's like going to a general practioner for an orthopedic injury, just isn't the same.
I have a lot of faith in stem cell, and a GOOD/proven rehab program, many times no justice is done with time off.
I have several really good lameness vets. I'm in vet school myself so I'm really picky on who my horses go to as I know a lot of the inside knowledge on people. LOL.
First vet visit- routine hock injections based on her history and what has normally worked for her. lameness exam supported LH lameness.
2nd visit- came back when hock injections didnt get the results I wanted/expected. used the lameness locator, blocked her stifle, got improvement on lameness locator so we injected both stifles. also had some LF lameness so radiographed her feet and adjusted her front shoes to get her angles a little better.
3rd visit- dental only no lameness exam
4th visit- different vet had her back re injected and re radiographed to check on her one kissing lesion.
5th visit- back to original vet, lameness locator again, LH lame again, did a low 6 block and she got a little better. did a suspensory block and lameness is gone. ultrasounded once but too much fluid from the nerve blocks to get a great picture.
Okay so I guess it's 5, not 6 visits. So she will be going back for visit #6 in two weeks.
ETA- also, as previously said.. Stem Cells are out of the question. Just not in my budget. Even with whatever discounts I get at school. PRP is a thought but given the duration of her injury they wouldn't give that great of a benefit and it is a lot shorter lived than stem cells. I do have runners relief. The other real world realization here is... with my schedule and course work.. and my pending graduation.. realistically speaking I may not get to run very much anymore, so I'm not sure it's worth the investment in stem cells when I may be so busy she's turned out and bred regardless.
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Location: Bandera, TX | casualdust07 - 2015-08-04 5:42 PM
halter_ego - 2015-08-04 11:51 AM
Find a "lameness" vet, if you aren't already working with one. The fact that it took 6 visits to pin point a suspensory worries me. I did the same thing with a couple horses I have had, now I will not use anyone other than a lameness/ performance horse vet for legs. It's like going to a general practioner for an orthopedic injury, just isn't the same.
I have a lot of faith in stem cell, and a GOOD/proven rehab program, many times no justice is done with time off.
I have several really good lameness vets. I'm in vet school myself so I'm really picky on who my horses go to as I know a lot of the inside knowledge on people. LOL.
First vet visit- routine hock injections based on her history and what has normally worked for her. lameness exam supported LH lameness.
2nd visit- came back when hock injections didnt get the results I wanted/expected. used the lameness locator, blocked her stifle, got improvement on lameness locator so we injected both stifles. also had some LF lameness so radiographed her feet and adjusted her front shoes to get her angles a little better.
3rd visit- dental only no lameness exam
4th visit- different vet had her back re injected and re radiographed to check on her one kissing lesion.
5th visit- back to original vet, lameness locator again, LH lame again, did a low 6 block and she got a little better. did a suspensory block and lameness is gone. ultrasounded once but too much fluid from the nerve blocks to get a great picture.
Okay so I guess it's 5, not 6 visits. So she will be going back for visit #6 in two weeks.
ETA- also, as previously said.. Stem Cells are out of the question. Just not in my budget. Even with whatever discounts I get at school. PRP is a thought but given the duration of her injury they wouldn't give that great of a benefit and it is a lot shorter lived than stem cells. I do have runners relief. The other real world realization here is... with my schedule and course work.. and my pending graduation.. realistically speaking I may not get to run very much anymore, so I'm not sure it's worth the investment in stem cells when I may be so busy she's turned out and bred regardless.
My mare was never really lame... We ended up doing a bone scan and that's when they found it.... |
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Location: Texas | I think it sounds smart to turn her out next year, it worked with Lucy!
Plus you won't have to worry about her as much, you have Lucy to make a few fun runs on next year and you can focus on school, then in 2-3 years when you start getting settled in to your career you will have an awesome baby to start!
I know this must be horrible to deal with, but I know she will recover and come back stronger than ever! Just remember god always has a plan.. |
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You get what you give
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Location: Texas | Yep!! I am seeing the positive in all of this. I was really pleased when after I did everything with Lucy, giving her a year off just really helped her. I'm not going to just chunk Bunny in a pasture- believe me she runs and plays too hard and she wouldn't make any progress on her own! |
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Can I cry now?? So heartbroken