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Babies...How fat is too fat???
ShortnRound
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-08-04 1:35 PM
Subject: Babies...How fat is too fat???


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I have a 2yo that is going to be big. Everyday when I go to feed I get fussed at that I am feeding too much. But she's so young. I want her to continue to grow and to have enough feed and nutrients so that she reaches her full potential. She is on alfalfa/grass mix and no grain. Yes, she is fat, but is that a bad thing?



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Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2015-08-04 2:08 PM
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Fat's the prettiest color there is!   
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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-08-04 2:35 PM
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blubber fat would be stressful on bones but i have not seen a really obese horse yet but

fat is a good color 
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DLV
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2015-08-04 2:38 PM
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At first I was wondering if you were talking babies or horses! :)
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linds
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-08-04 2:48 PM
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There are many medical implications associated with overweight horses.  I would think they apply to young ones as well.  i.e. promoting insulin resistance and laminitis.  I do not think fat is pretty... gross.  Check out the horse in my ad - now that is a good color!!

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ShortnRound
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-08-04 2:58 PM
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I added a picture for reference.
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-08-04 3:15 PM
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Ehhhh she's not like obese but a little chubby. I've ALWAYS read that it is not good for growing horses to be overweight and can cause a myriad of issues and put stress on their joints. IMO fat horses of any age are just as unhealthy as too thin ones. I try to keep just enough so their ribs don't show but can be felt.
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-08-04 3:16 PM
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Most youngsters finish growing by 2-2 1/2, and then will finish filling out for the next year or two. I would consider cutting yours back a little, you don't want to add more strain or stress to bones and joints.

Edited by FlyingJT 2015-08-04 3:17 PM
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-08-04 3:34 PM
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FlyingJT - 2015-08-04 3:16 PM

Most youngsters finish growing by 2-2 1/2, and then will finish filling out for the next year or two. I would consider cutting yours back a little, you don't want to add more strain or stress to bones and joints.

This^... While she's too fat to fit into the water tub like she's trying to do.... She's not obese yet.
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ShortnRound
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-08-04 3:43 PM
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Well I guess I can thank the Lord for an easy keeper. She only gets 2 flakes of hay twice a day. Poor girl is gonna starve!
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-08-04 3:50 PM
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My 2 YO is also fat.  She goes out on pasture at night and gets a flake of alfalfa in the morning when I bring her up.  She's still pretty tubby.  I'm not complaining....i'll take an easy keeper any day of the week!  I wouldn't be too worried if all your colt is getting is hay and grass.  If that bloom was from grain, then i'd say yes, you should probably back off.   
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ShortnRound
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-08-04 3:55 PM
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Yep, I live in the hi desert. Nothing grows here but rocks. That tubbiness is strictly from her hay lol
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-08-04 3:56 PM
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that is a fat baby lol
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ampratt
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-08-04 3:56 PM
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ShortnRound - 2015-08-04 3:43 PM

Well I guess I can thank the Lord for an easy keeper. She only gets 2 flakes of hay twice a day. Poor girl is gonna starve!

Did I miss reading something....She is on a dry lot and ONLY gets 2 flakes of hay twice a day? I want your feed/hay bill! lol
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ShortnRound
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-08-04 4:03 PM
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ampratt - 2015-08-04 2:56 PM

ShortnRound - 2015-08-04 3:43 PM

Well I guess I can thank the Lord for an easy keeper. She only gets 2 flakes of hay twice a day. Poor girl is gonna starve!

Did I miss reading something....She is on a dry lot and ONLY gets 2 flakes of hay twice a day? I want your feed/hay bill! lol

My others more than make up for it lol
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kakbarrelracer
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-08-04 6:47 PM
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 You are not over feeding. She is a little heavy but I bet she is not done growing yet. I'd rather have a little extra weight on them before a growth spurt rather than them being thin going into one.
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HorsesNHarleys
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2015-08-05 7:01 AM
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Send her to NC and you wont have to worry about it anymore!!!

SHE IS GORGEOUS!!!!!!

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ShortnRound
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-08-05 5:21 PM
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HorsesNHarleys - 2015-08-05 6:01 AM

Send her to NC and you wont have to worry about it anymore!!!

SHE IS GORGEOUS!!!!!!


Thanks! Went to look at a 3yo gelding and came home with a 2yo mare! I love her though!
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-08-05 6:28 PM
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ShortnRound - 2015-08-05 5:21 PM

HorsesNHarleys - 2015-08-05 6:01 AM

Send her to NC and you wont have to worry about it anymore!!!

SHE IS GORGEOUS!!!!!!


Thanks! Went to look at a 3yo gelding and came home with a 2yo mare! I love her though!

I expect her to be a handful. You can almost SEE the gears turning as she thinks. People say they love smart horses and I do too.... but..... sometimes.......

Edited by komet. 2015-08-05 7:04 PM
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ShortnRound
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-08-05 11:26 PM
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komet. - 2015-08-05 5:28 PM

ShortnRound - 2015-08-05 5:21 PM

HorsesNHarleys - 2015-08-05 6:01 AM

Send her to NC and you wont have to worry about it anymore!!!

SHE IS GORGEOUS!!!!!!


Thanks! Went to look at a 3yo gelding and came home with a 2yo mare! I love her though!

I expect her to be a handful. You can almost SEE the gears turning as she thinks. People say they love smart horses and I do too.... but..... sometimes.......

Ha! She is opinionated but very smart. Just jumped right on this one without any ground work. 3rd ride I had her out at a barrel race riding her around. She learns FAST but is sure to remind you that she is baby and has a mind of her own!
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GoinJettin
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-08-06 12:04 AM
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FlyingJT - 2015-08-04 2:16 PM Most youngsters finish growing by 2-2 1/2, and then will finish filling out for the next year or two. I would consider cutting yours back a little, you don't want to add more strain or stress to bones and joints.

Sorry, but, I think that is totally false.  Most horses don't stop growing until 5-6, sometimes older.  I'm going to ask my vet for some references on it though. 

We've had discussions already on pushing young horses too fast too soon and the wear and tear it is causing.
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ShortnRound
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-08-06 8:59 AM
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I don't believe they stop growing til later as well. My guardians were small animal vets and I was always taught that a puppy can never be too fat as they are still growing. Just kind of curious with horses.
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Tdove
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-08-06 9:12 AM
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Your horse is absolutely not too fat and you are not feeding too much. I have never heard of a horse that was nearly done growing at 2 1/2. No way he is going to get health problems from being overweight. Hate to go against the grain so much in this post, but its the truth. Give it as much hay as it wants.
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-08-06 9:55 AM
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GoinJettin - 2015-08-06 12:04 AM

FlyingJT - 2015-08-04 2:16 PM Most youngsters finish growing by 2-2 1/2, and then will finish filling out for the next year or two. I would consider cutting yours back a little, you don't want to add more strain or stress to bones and joints.

Sorry, but, I think that is totally false.  Most horses don't stop growing until 5-6, sometimes older.  I'm going to ask my vet for some references on it though. 

We've had discussions already on pushing young horses too fast too soon and the wear and tear it is causing.

they have reached at least 90% of their adult height by 2-2 1/2. But you are correct, they will continue to grow until 3-5 but not at a significant rate, growth plates will finish fusing up to 5 years old and some horses longer.

Please share your vets references on this subject, I would love to read!
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Tdove
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-08-06 10:59 AM
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Very true, but it is misleading. Looking at it your way, it seems that the horse only has 10% left to grow and has grown 90% already. However, that is not the case. The reason is that they are born at 60-65% of their adult height. So lets take an average 15 hand horse that was born at 38 inches. It is 9.2 hands tall. That means from birth to maturity it will grow 5.2 hands.

If at 2 years of age, it is 90% grown to adult height, it will be 13.2 hands. Although it has grown to 90% of its adult height, it has only grown 4 hands since birth or 73% of its total growth to adult hood.

This means that at 2 years of age it still has 27% growth left (almost 4x the 10% perceived amount), PLUS maturity and filling out, which to me counts as growth as well.

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lopnaround
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2015-08-06 4:12 PM
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Get a feed rep to do some ration balancing calculations for ya....the main thing is protein.  I do believe that babies feed too much protein can develop OCD's...there is some research to indicate this.  She is gorgeous tho!  I come from reiners and they all look like that:)
 


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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-08-06 5:59 PM
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I wouldn't want them at a BCS over 7. They should have fat cover but they shouldn't be fat.

i would pull a little weight off by cutting back feed. OR if you don't want to do that, maybe lunge her or pony her so she can burn some of the calories
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