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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | I'm glad somebody else asked because I must be living under that same rock. All I can figure out is I think some people were 'making fun of' or 'bullying' Sarah McDonald because of the way she rides Bling. I guess I don't get it. She is the reigning rookie of the year and will be making her first NFR appearance and don't forget her NBHA World Championship......so she must be doing something right (insert sarcasm)
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Location: Oklahoma | oija - 2015-08-04 8:47 PM
Have you ever done one of these?
This. From what I gather on Instagram there are some accounts/users that are taking pictures of random barrel racers w/out their permission and posting them to their "animal abuse" accounts and calling the girls bad horsewomen. They have been posting negatively about Fallon, Sarah, Lindsey McLeod.... The barrel racing community (Fallon and Co., Callie D., and Team McLeod) are all banding together and trying to stand against the "animal abuse" accounts from bullying. Atleast that's what I gather. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I thought it started with Fallon. I've been hearing it for several months now tho. It makes me laugh. |
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| Well what a shame. People can be rude. Makes me think of this certain FB group......with the word tack in it.
Anyways, thanks for letting me know. Sounds like a lame term made up by haters.
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Location: In the saddle enjoying the East Texas sky | Yes and the hate and criticisms are mostly from people who are not barrel racers. The ones who are (or claim they are) have not proved to be very successful, but still manage to label themselves as trainers. Just jealous kids getting "Instafamous".
ETA: I have never cared what other people do (as long as it doesn't affect me) , and now a days there are people investing their time into creating anonymous social media accounts to make fun of other people. I wish I had that kind of time on my hands. Lol
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| Cover your eyes but I was always under the impression star fishing was a sexual act much like the term "tossing your salad" paha |
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Location: My own little world! | Thistle2011 - 2015-08-05 8:08 PM
Cover your eyes but I was always under the impression star fishing was a sexual act much like the term "tossing your salad" paha
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Thistle2011 - 2015-08-05 8:08 PM
Cover your eyes but I was always under the impression star fishing was a sexual act much like the term "tossing your salad" paha
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Thistle2011 - 2015-08-05 8:08 PM
Cover your eyes but I was always under the impression star fishing was a sexual act much like the term "tossing your salad" paha
Um I thought that also.................
Well don't feel bad. I started out wondering if there was a market for these things that I'd never heard about.
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| Hahaha..... I hear they taste like poop... I mean the actual starfish not the act paha 
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Location: Phoenix | LOL star fishing to me is when I lay in bed like a starfish and don't let hubby in HAHA!!
but relating to horses, I haven't heard the term yet but I think it's pretty pathetic what people are doing on Instagram. |
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Location: North Dakota | Yeah I was thinking of an ENTIRELY different kind of starfishing... |
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| I could call my pictures bullfrogging because I look just exactly like a big fat bullfrog sitting up there running out. No way in this lifetime or another for that matter, would I buy a picture of me running out of the arena. Also there is no way I could possibly get my legs up that high. Just doesn't happen when you are 65. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | streakysox - 2015-08-04 11:21 PM
I could call my pictures bullfrogging because I look just exactly like a big fat bullfrog sitting up there running out. No way in this lifetime or another for that matter, would I buy a picture of me running out of the arena. Also there is no way I could possibly get my legs up that high. Just doesn't happen when you are 65.
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I don't know how folks have time to argue about barrel racing when they don't participate or know anything about it. Lol |
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Location: MD | This all started from some tacky little Facebook group and a "lady"(using this word loosely) talking about a steinhoff's picture. It's tasteless and ridiculous and it makes me sad that a group of people blindly follow this person for her behavior. |
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Location: Kentucky | I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel.
It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down.
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Location: Midwest | Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down.
I think a lot of the time, the pictures like that are the result of being popped up when a strong horse lunges, or being "up" in the saddle and kicking home. Of course others have a rougher style too.
It doesn't usually look dramatic on the video and they often aren't slamming on the horse, it just looks weird in a still.
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| Everyone of us has been popped up in a run. Some of us are lucky enough that it wasnt caught on video or captured in a photo. This "starfishing" was first after the Steinhoff girls and it was horrible cyber bullying. It is so disgusting that these kids/adults get away with his behavior because it hurt my feelings and i wasnt even the one being attacked.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Let me see if I can get this pic to post. This is my very own "baby-starfish" pic from a high school rodeo.  I don't know why I did it here, turning a barrel of all places, because it wasn't usual for me, but it happened. If you looked hard enough, and screen shotted some vids, I imagine most people have had a moment.  I don't like seeing those type pics held up as "good riding" because they're not, but public ridicule isn't the right thing to do either.
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Location: Kansas | Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 9:01 AM
Try not to laugh too hard at my colored rockies. That was 1992. Dang, I'm old.
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Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 9:01 AM
Try not to laugh too hard at my colored rockies. That was 1992. Dang, I'm old.
whats that fleece thing over your horses nose? I've seen alot, kind of like them!!!!
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-08-05 10:08 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 9:01 AM Try not to laugh too hard at my colored rockies. That was 1992. Dang, I'm old. whats that fleece thing over your horses nose? I've seen alot, kind of like them!!!!
lol i call it a shawdow roll but.. love the color jeans love rockies
i think its got blown way out of portion
people have always talked let it roll off just small minded but she is right a lot of young girl think it a good think to jump up and down
the need to get down on all 4 and have a little kid get on their back and jump up and down
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Location: Deep South | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 8:42 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down.
We have ALL done this, whether or not a photographer caught it on camera during the snap second you may have gotten out of position.
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Location: Beggs, OK | BamaCanChaser - 2015-08-05 9:17 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 8:42 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down. We have ALL done this, whether or not a photographer caught it on camera during the snap second you may have gotten out of position.
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BamaCanChaser - 2015-08-05 9:17 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 8:42 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down. We have ALL done this, whether or not a photographer caught it on camera during the snap second you may have gotten out of position.
Her legs are just as far off stingray as the others pictures...
NO ONE is bashing Sherry, we're saying every single person has a picture. I've done it where I losen my leg coming off a barrel to kick, midjudge where there stride is and it pops me right out of the saddle in kicking position. Even though my legs actually never follow through with the kick. Its bad timing...
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 9:01 AM
Try not to laugh too hard at my colored rockies. That was 1992. Dang, I'm old.
hahaha, I had every color under the sun, I think even a pleather pair... 
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| The cyber bullying going on has gotten horrible, they steal photos of barrel racers and claim they're all animal abusers, and the newest thing is how horrible whipping is! I just stay off those pages, the people are ignorant and most of them are twelve year old girls wanting to start trouble. From the way they sound, they have no right to talk, some of them have probably ridden a horse three times in their life... Starfishing happens, the photos might look like they're gonna knock the wind out of them, but 90% of the people in the photos probably don't come down kicking as hard as they can, and really the NFR girls know what they're doing!! |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-08-05 9:08 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 9:01 AM Try not to laugh too hard at my colored rockies. That was 1992. Dang, I'm old. whats that fleece thing over your horses nose? I've seen alot, kind of like them!!!!
Yep, a shadow roll on a (gasp) steel noseband and a fairly tight tiedown with a barely there hackamore. He won a ton for me and several others after me in that headgear. One of the most honest horses I've ever ridden. |
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Location: Deep South | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 9:20 AM
BamaCanChaser - 2015-08-05 9:17 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 8:42 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down. We have ALL done this, whether or not a photographer caught it on camera during the snap second you may have gotten out of position.
I'm aware the top pic is Brittany, that's why I named the attachment Sherry and Pozzi.
No, she is not out of position as bad or kicking as hard as some of the pictures that have been shared. My point was simply that it does happen to even the best. No one is perfect. Which is the whole reason behind the #stopthebullying campaign.
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Location: Kansas | Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 9:33 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-08-05 9:08 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 9:01 AM Try not to laugh too hard at my colored rockies. That was 1992. Dang, I'm old. whats that fleece thing over your horses nose? I've seen alot, kind of like them!!!!
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-08-05 9:40 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 9:33 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-08-05 9:08 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 9:01 AM Try not to laugh too hard at my colored rockies. That was 1992. Dang, I'm old. whats that fleece thing over your horses nose? I've seen alot, kind of like them!!!!
You can buy a regular shadow roll at a race track store. I have a plain one that I use on horses that don't need tie downs. You can make your own as well on a cavesson or tie down noseband. Get some halter fleece and stuff it to the size you need. |
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Location: Okemah,OK | BamaCanChaser - 2015-08-05 9:35 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 9:20 AM BamaCanChaser - 2015-08-05 9:17 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 8:42 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down. We have ALL done this, whether or not a photographer caught it on camera during the snap second you may have gotten out of position. I'm aware the top pic is Brittany, that's why I named the attachment Sherry and Pozzi. No, she is not out of position as bad or kicking as hard as some of the pictures that have been shared. My point was simply that it does happen to even the best. No one is perfect. Which is the whole reason behind the #stopthebullying campaign. Their purpose is not necessarily to promote starfishing as a good thing, but to take a stand against the cyberbullies.
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Location: Beggs, OK | BamaCanChaser - 2015-08-05 9:35 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 9:20 AM BamaCanChaser - 2015-08-05 9:17 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 8:42 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down. We have ALL done this, whether or not a photographer caught it on camera during the snap second you may have gotten out of position. I'm aware the top pic is Brittany, that's why I named the attachment Sherry and Pozzi. No, she is not out of position as bad or kicking as hard as some of the pictures that have been shared. My point was simply that it does happen to even the best. No one is perfect. Which is the whole reason behind the #stopthebullying campaign. Their purpose is not necessarily to promote starfishing as a good thing, but to take a stand against the cyberbullies.
But that's what's happening... I'm adamantly against the "bullying" which I'm not entirely sure is the correct term for this, but the promotion of this riding style is going to backfire. I've seen twenty pictures since last night of younger girls who can't even correctly sit a horse following this BS and chiming in with their awful pictures to fit in with an adult crowd that's telling them it's okay to be that far out of position and kick a horse that's only trying to stay under them. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 9:52 AM BamaCanChaser - 2015-08-05 9:35 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 9:20 AM BamaCanChaser - 2015-08-05 9:17 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 8:42 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down. We have ALL done this, whether or not a photographer caught it on camera during the snap second you may have gotten out of position. I'm aware the top pic is Brittany, that's why I named the attachment Sherry and Pozzi. No, she is not out of position as bad or kicking as hard as some of the pictures that have been shared. My point was simply that it does happen to even the best. No one is perfect. Which is the whole reason behind the #stopthebullying campaign. Their purpose is not necessarily to promote starfishing as a good thing, but to take a stand against the cyberbullies.
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I agree - just because it happens, it doesn't make it "cool."
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Any who, it isn't any body's business how a person rides. We all make mistakes, we all get out of position, if you claim you never have you're lying to yourself. We all have our opinions on how others ride BUT the adult thing to do is keep it to yourself unless your opinion is asked for. Cutting someone else down to make you feel better, pah-leese! Get a life. |
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Location: Peach State | I know it happens to everyone and a lot of people are posting their pictures "starfishing" to stand up agains bullying but there is a difference between hustling home with long legs kicking out and having your ass two feet out of the saddle leaving every barrel. Young kids think it's cool or mean they're trying harder than everyone else and they should be praised for how much air they can get. No. Stay with your horse. I know it happens it's happened to me and we can't control every movement in "the moment" but please don't aim for a sore horse.
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | hammer_time - 2015-08-04 10:50 PM LOL star fishing to me is when I lay in bed like a starfish and don't let hubby in HAHA!!
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Location: North Dakota | Trust me I do not "kick the air out of one" but I have pictures of me starfishing. If you have enough pictures taken of you then you will have them. It is mostly the first stride or two coming out of a barrel when it happens. If you are riding a poweful horse and they go to launch just at the right moment when you are loosening up to ride and kick you will get a little air for a split second and a photo taken at that exact moment can look bad. |
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the way to stop cyber bulling is ignore it more you talk about the better they feel hit delete button |
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Location: Kansas | I see the hunter/jumper gals have already started in on another forum. |
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| Has anyone actually looked up the meaning of star fishing? It's disgusting. I think someone needs to come up with a different name when talking about the rider. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | vjls - 2015-08-05 1:33 PM
the way to stop cyber bulling is ignore it more you talk about the better they feel hit delete button
I'm sorry... As a person that was bullied face to face when I was young, I have no sympathy for people that get in a twist when all they have to do to stop it is hit the "off" switch and go do something else. |
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| Well, I have been living under a rock and don't know the meaning of the other starfishing either. Not sure if I want to Google it and get porn on my tablet.....lol |
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Location: Cyberspace | Any comments regarding other peoples riding skills will be deleted and the authors will be monitered before posting. This needs to be a nice and safe place to visit.
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Location: CTX | heidiinaz - 2015-08-05 5:06 PM Has anyone actually looked up the meaning of star fishing? It's disgusting. I think someone needs to come up with a different name when talking about the rider.
Lol, yup I googled it.... And the one you refer to is definitely not worth repeating.... But there are a couple of other ones, like sprawling out over the bed when your spouse/ better half gets up....
Didn't realize it had a name.... Yes, I've seen girls do the split on a horse but mostly it is when they get bumped out of the saddle.... And yes, I probably done it too. Just never got caught on camera.
while looking up the meaning I of course encoutered the multiple rants about racing.... and I had to refrain myself from commenting. Like someone else mentioned, every discipline has their extemes. So just let it go.
Also, educating them "horsepeople" will take a lifetime or two.... and I have better things to do with my time.... and some of them just don't want to be edumacated.....
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Location: Central Texas | Unfortunately, I am sure I have "starfished" but only because my old fat body can't keep up with my horse. Poor fella! |
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Location: The edge of no where | heidiinaz - 2015-08-05 5:06 PM Has anyone actually looked up the meaning of star fishing? It's disgusting. I think someone needs to come up with a different name when talking about the rider.
Uh - yeah. Check urban dictionary before proudly posting that 'starfish' picture. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not something you try to do, but really not worth picking on someone for....it happens to the best....move along.
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| I dont think we can control how kids respond to this situation.... I think the common person isnt going to TRY and make that pose. I havent seen anyone saying its cool or good... theyre saying it happens. If kids, teens wants to take that as its the thing to do, we cant control that. But we can control the bullying and meme's being posted using people pictures and plastered all over the internet. |
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Location: Oklahoma | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 8:42 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down.
Someone posted a pic of Sherry on facebook doing it. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | dianeguinn - 2015-08-06 10:23 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 8:42 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down. Someone posted a pic of Sherry on facebook doing it.
That picture isn't quite the same thing.... Comparing the two is ridiculous.
The admin has already deleted a post with the picture on here. |
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Location: Oklahoma | cyount2009 - 2015-08-05 10:14 AM
I have to say, I love this forum. This morning when I checked my facebook it was blown up with "starfish" pictures. I have been running for 27 years, I have been down the road both rodeoing and to jackpots and this is a term I have never, ever heard of. So I came here to find out the heck was going on!
Any who, it isn't any body's business how a person rides. We all make mistakes, we all get out of position, if you claim you never have you're lying to yourself. We all have our opinions on how others ride BUT the adult thing to do is keep it to yourself unless your opinion is asked for. Cutting someone else down to make you feel better, pah-leese! Get a life.
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Location: Oklahoma | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-06 10:26 AM
dianeguinn - 2015-08-06 10:23 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-05 8:42 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-05 8:30 AM Murphy - 2015-08-05 7:39 AM I was always under the impression it wasn't a good thing? I'm 150 pounds and know it wouldn't feel too great slamming back down on my horse like that. But I'm not riding an NFR horse and I can't imagine the torque they have coming off a barrel. It's not a good thing, but it happens. Sometimes habitually, sometimes just because you get popped up by a strong, hard-running horse in a bad moment. I do wish pics of winning riders doing it and being glorified for it would go away because it encourages kids to imitate it rather than learn to kick correctly from the knee down. Someone posted a pic of Sherry on facebook doing it.
The admin has already deleted a post with the picture on here.
Ok. I really don't have a dog in the fight. I don't care if you do it or you don't. If it gets Sarah to the pay window, I doubt she cares what the haters say. lol I sure don't. If it would get me to the paywindow, I'd do it, but I'm kinda like the one that said they're too old and fat to stay with their horse....that's me! lol I wonder what that group would have to say about my magic seat? ROFLMAO |
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Location: Beggs, OK | I know that this centered on Sarah, but that isn't what my concern is with this issue. What I stated previously in this thread is that posting those pictures and praising it as good riding or "hustle" is sending the wrong message to young riders. Very few people have the physical strength or timing it takes to ride a horse that fast, kick that efficiently, and not be completely out of position and hindering their horse.
Yes, we have all been out of position and could have a photo snapped just like that, but it doesn't mean that you're doing anything right. |
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| I agree with rachellyn. I can see why Sarah Rose does it. I've watched Bling enough to say that very few people could stay clean on that mare. That's why her and Sarah are a great team. Fallon was very little at her first NFR. like most small kids, she learned to "hustle hustle kick kick". She still rides like she did at the age of 8. It works for her. With that said, there are a few exceptions to every rule. Sarah and Fallon are exceptions. Starfishing, IMHO, is not something for the normal people to aspire to do. It's hard on an average horse. It's really hard on a horse with a 160+ pound rider. I go to jackpots and cringe at the poor horsemanship as people kick for all their worth while ripping on heads. Most of those horses look miserable. Same with parents screaming to kick and hustle when the horse is clearly giving them everything it has. To each their own though. While I personally HATE the starfish...I'm certainly not going to bash any NFR girl (or anyone else for that matter) for doing it. Especially when it's obviously working for them. "Not my circus, not my monkeys". |
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Location: Kentucky | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-06 11:42 AM I know that this centered on Sarah, but that isn't what my concern is with this issue. What I stated previously in this thread is that posting those pictures and praising it as good riding or "hustle" is sending the wrong message to young riders. Very few people have the physical strength or timing it takes to ride a horse that fast, kick that efficiently, and not be completely out of position and hindering their horse.
Yes, we have all been out of position and could have a photo snapped just like that, but it doesn't mean that you're doing anything right.
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-08-06 10:42 AM
I know that this centered on Sarah, but that isn't what my concern is with this issue. What I stated previously in this thread is that posting those pictures and praising it as good riding or "hustle" is sending the wrong message to young riders. Very few people have the physical strength or timing it takes to ride a horse that fast, kick that efficiently, and not be completely out of position and hindering their horse.
Yes, we have all been out of position and could have a photo snapped just like that, but it doesn't mean that you're doing anything right.
This! I didn't know what in the world was going on until I searched the "hashtag" on Facebook. I see many young riders (and even quite a few experienced riders) saying it's a good thing and the only way you know you're really trying. Makes me worry for the future generations of barrel racing. There are already so many lacking in horsemanship and using nasty bits and shortcuts to win faster... |
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Location: Texas!! | I think the pictures are very deceptive. Most of the riders actually have their weight in their stirrups, they don't actually hit the saddle seat with their full weight. Lots of them ride with short stirrups, (picture a jockey) and use their saddle horn to get up and hustle the correct way. That's why you don't notice it in videos, they are not bouncing on the horses back. If you see a bareback starfish, that might be a little different, LOL!! |
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| lol i have seen a cuople of riders that do this all the time literally come off the horse and hit the ground as they were coming home they had already left the barrel and were half way home its the way they ride
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| rodeodelux - 2015-08-06 12:12 PM
I think the pictures are very deceptive. Most of the riders actually have their weight in their stirrups, they don't actually hit the saddle seat with their full weight. Lots of them ride with short stirrups, (picture a jockey) and use their saddle horn to get up and hustle the correct way. That's why you don't notice it in videos, they are not bouncing on the horses back. If you see a bareback starfish, that might be a little different, LOL!!
Nothing to add, except that the dog in your pic is ADORABLE!!! |
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| I had no idea what "starfishing" was, either. I thought it was falling off backwards and landing...SPLAT!!! All four limbs out like a starfish. Guess I was wrong!!! |
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Location: Oregon | It's not like barrel racing is the epitomy of good horsemanship or great equitation, it's our sport but I don't expect people in other disciplines to admire our riding style. Especially since most people don't know a great barrel racing jockey from a backyard barrel racer, they all get judged as the same sport.
It's a timed event, the fastest rise to the top. Just like the best horses, they don't all have perfect style.
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| RodeoCowgirl4u - 2015-08-06 1:43 PM
I had no idea what "starfishing" was, either. I thought it was falling off backwards and landing...SPLAT!!! All four limbs out like a starfish. Guess I was wrong!!!
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Location: Kansas | I just googled what "starfishing" means......I do not ever want a mental picture of that EVER again. |
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| Like someone else said, barrel racing isn't a horsemanship competition. All that matters is keeping up the cans and hauling home. Fastest time wins. Why the hell do people care what they look like doing it? I don't see anyone judging winning championships.
This is coming from someone who can win horsemanship and equitation classes left and right, then goes and runs barrels and has plenty of 'starfishing' pictures. Who cares what you look like as long as you stop the clock? Why do people need to be such BULLIES?! No point to it.
ETA: Found a still from our last run on poles, my powerhouse of a mare can 'turn and burn', the results aren't always pretty when you PAUSE the video. haha
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-08-06 2:24 PM
Like someone else said, barrel racing isn't a horsemanship competition. All that matters is keeping up the cans and hauling home. Fastest time wins. Why the hell do people care what they look like doing it? I don't see anyone judging winning championships.
This is coming from someone who can win horsemanship and equitation classes left and right, then goes and runs barrels and has plenty of 'starfishing' pictures. Who cares what you look like as long as you stop the clock? Why do people need to be such BULLIES?! No point to it.
My barrel racing trainer says the same thing...no one is judging my equitation, I have plenty of medals from hunters back in the day. If I am so worried about my equitation and commenting on someone else's and they kick my behind...then I need to forget my equitation and do whatever it takes to stop the clock. Of course, appalling to me...but I agree that the less "movement" leaves less to be left behind when your horse really takes off. I guess my point is that when I get to the NFR I will judge other NFR qualifiers' equitation and riding styles. Until then I am gonna shut up. |
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Location: London Ontario | with that being said, if you truly are a good horsemanship rider, you should be able to somewhat maintain that level of riding regardless of what you are doing. Unfortunately I see way to many barrel racers who just plain cant ride....back to the OP, I think people should just mind their own business and we would all get along just fine! |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | Either way, I don't go fast enough to starfish. |
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Location: Texas!! | kboltwkreations - 2015-08-06 12:59 PM
rodeodelux - 2015-08-06 12:12 PM
I think the pictures are very deceptive. Most of the riders actually have their weight in their stirrups, they don't actually hit the saddle seat with their full weight. Lots of them ride with short stirrups, (picture a jockey) and use their saddle horn to get up and hustle the correct way. That's why you don't notice it in videos, they are not bouncing on the horses back. If you see a bareback starfish, that might be a little different, LOL!!
Nothing to add, except that the dog in your pic is ADORABLE!!!
THANKS! That's Trashy, she has been the best little traveling dog! Plus, she thinks she's famous...lol |
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Location: Sunnyland Florida | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-06 11:42 AM I know that this centered on Sarah, but that isn't what my concern is with this issue. What I stated previously in this thread is that posting those pictures and praising it as good riding or "hustle" is sending the wrong message to young riders. Very few people have the physical strength or timing it takes to ride a horse that fast, kick that efficiently, and not be completely out of position and hindering their horse.
Yes, we have all been out of position and could have a photo snapped just like that, but it doesn't mean that you're doing anything right.
Totally agree.
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | rockette - 2015-08-07 9:59 AM Either way, I don't go fast enough to starfish.
I was just thinking that...hopefully this year I can get any photo where it doesn't look like I'm loping western pleasure coming out of turn with my one mare. |
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Location: on my horse | Speedy Buckeye Girl - 2015-08-07 1:45 PM
rockette - 2015-08-07 9:59 AM Either way, I don't go fast enough to starfish.
I was just thinking that...hopefully this year I can get any photo where it doesn't look like I'm loping western pleasure coming out of turn with my one mare.
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| I always thought it was "flogging" a horse. ......... or if you are using it in a sentence...... "She was just a floggin' that horse all the way across the pen." lol
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