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Location: The edge of no where | Whiteboy - 2015-08-06 2:32 PM I hoping for a breakout moment for Carson. I love the way he thinks. Hopefully he has the strength to stand out and express those ideas. It's time for a REAL black president rather than a pathetic community organizer.
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| FlyingJT - 2015-08-06 2:51 PM
Anyone know much on Carly Fiorina?
What I have seen so far I like. | |
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| BamaCanChaser - 2015-08-06 3:11 PM
I think tonight is going to be a circus.....
First debate in my life I'm excited to watch.
That might happen. All depends on what somebody has to say. Could get a little HEATED!!!! | |
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Anyone know much on Carly Fiorina?
What I have seen so far I like.
That's how i'm feeling. Curious to see how this evening goes for her... | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | FLITASTIC - 2015-08-06 2:17 PM
Hopefully Trump got some coaching on poise and how to get his agenda across without putting his foot in his mouth. I sure like most of his ideas!
I don't expect Trump to do well at all. He is not a debater. He is a CEO. He gives orders and sees that they get done He does not debate. When he says he will get The Wall built and Mexico will pay for it, I believe him.... He won't say how.... wisely so. I can figure it out but the usual idiot politically correct nitwit in DC cannot imagine what he will do.... It will be beyond their belief. As president, he will squeeze Mexico until they do it. Diplomacy will be out the window. He'll close the whole darn border to everything. He'll kill nafta too... | |
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| FlyingJT - 2015-08-06 2:51 PM
Anyone know much on Carly Fiorina?
Mom told me she didn't make the cut, so she will be in the early debate at 5 I think. My mom stays up with this and she loves her. | |
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I don't care what Trump says tonight, who he offends, how he acts or if he goes down in flames. He has my vote for the Presidency!!
This will be the first time in MANY years that I have truly voted "FOR" someone, and not just voted "AGAINST" someone. I want to see what the businessman will do for us.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I'm going to be watching, if possible. I can't predict how Trump will do, but I expect people will be trying to trip him up. The guys popularity is rising more than anyone, and there must be a reason. He represents people who are fed up with the status quo throughout our government.....both sides of the isle. I think a lot of powerful people in the US and around the world are afraid of him.
I like quite a few of the candidates, for different reasons. Any of them would be a vast improvement to the dink we have now.
As far as Carly, I really like her a lot. She's a breath of fresh air and I'm convinced she'd be a good president.
I think the senators Cruz and Rubio ought to remain in the senate, but they are good men as well.
I like Scott Walker, but I want to see how he holds up to harsh critics.
For some reason, I don't know if Perry has what it takes. | |
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Location: Dubach, LA | It NEEDs to be a circus. The Republican party needs to freshen its image. The circus always draws a crowd. | |
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Location: Kansas | When I hear people call Trump an "unlikely" candidate without the wherewithall to win the Presidency, I think back to a ridiculous totally unqualified Kenyan named Barack Hussein Obama who managed to pull it off. Why not a bright, intelligent and successful businessman who is actually a true American. I like Mr. Trump. | |
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Location: So. California | FlyingJT - 2015-08-06 12:51 PM Anyone know much on Carly Fiorina?
She is smart, educated, has a strong business background and gave Boxer a good run here in CA. I voted for Carly, hoping...
I like her, a LOT. Reading some of the blog posts, she is definitely hitting key points and making herself known. Go Carly! | |
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| Whiteboy - 2015-08-06 2:32 PM
I hoping for a breakout moment for Carson. I love the way he thinks. Hopefully he has the strength to stand out and express those ideas. It's time for a REAL black president rather than a pathetic community organizer.
Carson definitely has some good ideas and iis obviously very well intelligent. Really can't wait to hear his ideas. In a true debate he could truly hold his own. For those who do not know who he is, you need to get the movie about his life titled GIFTED HANDS. HE did come from modest beginnings. | |
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| streakysox - 2015-08-06 5:45 PM Whiteboy - 2015-08-06 2:32 PM I hoping for a breakout moment for Carson. I love the way he thinks. Hopefully he has the strength to stand out and express those ideas. It's time for a REAL black president rather than a pathetic community organizer. Carson definitely has some good ideas and iis obviously very well intelligent. Really can't wait to hear his ideas. In a true debate he could truly hold his own. For those who do not know who he is, you need to get the movie about his life titled GIFTED HANDS. HE did come from modest beginnings.
What I like most about him is that his life has been guided by principals...and he sticks by them...the inverse of that is what has turned me off on trump. I wish trump had Carson's morals...that would be the perfect candidate in my world. | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Whiteboy - 2015-08-06 5:50 PM
streakysox - 2015-08-06 5:45 PM Whiteboy - 2015-08-06 2:32 PM I hoping for a breakout moment for Carson. I love the way he thinks. Hopefully he has the strength to stand out and express those ideas. It's time for a REAL black president rather than a pathetic community organizer. Carson definitely has some good ideas and iis obviously very well intelligent. Really can't wait to hear his ideas. In a true debate he could truly hold his own. For those who do not know who he is, you need to get the movie about his life titled GIFTED HANDS. HE did come from modest beginnings.
Principals will get you nowhere in DC. Carter had all of those and he was the biggest pussy we've ever had in the White House. Great man, but not president material. | |
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streakysox - 2015-08-06 5:45 PM Whiteboy - 2015-08-06 2:32 PM I hoping for a breakout moment for Carson. I love the way he thinks. Hopefully he has the strength to stand out and express those ideas. It's time for a REAL black president rather than a pathetic community organizer. Carson definitely has some good ideas and iis obviously very well intelligent. Really can't wait to hear his ideas. In a true debate he could truly hold his own. For those who do not know who he is, you need to get the movie about his life titled GIFTED HANDS. HE did come from modest beginnings.
Principals will get you nowhere in DC. Carter had all of those and he was the biggest pussy we've ever had in the White House. Great man, but not president material.
Liberalism is not a principle.....it's a scourge. Carter is a nice man and he has a good heart, but his fatal flaw was his unabashed liberalism. Ronald Reagan crushed him in one of the biggest landslides in history.
I heard Carly Fiorina blew everyone away in the JV game. I'm not surprised.
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FlyingJT - 2015-08-06 12:51 PM Anyone know much on Carly Fiorina?
She is smart, educated, has a strong business background and gave Boxer a good run here in CA. I voted for Carly, hoping...
I like her, a LOT. Reading some of the blog posts, she is definitely hitting key points and making herself known. Go Carly!
Agreed! Watch and see.....she's going to emerge as a serious contender.
She has more balls and moxy than 99% of the men and women in either house.
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streakysox - 2015-08-06 5:45 PM Whiteboy - 2015-08-06 2:32 PM I hoping for a breakout moment for Carson. I love the way he thinks. Hopefully he has the strength to stand out and express those ideas. It's time for a REAL black president rather than a pathetic community organizer. Carson definitely has some good ideas and iis obviously very well intelligent. Really can't wait to hear his ideas. In a true debate he could truly hold his own. For those who do not know who he is, you need to get the movie about his life titled GIFTED HANDS. HE did come from modest beginnings.
Principals will get you nowhere in DC. Carter had all of those and he was the biggest pussy we've ever had in the White House. Great man, but not president material.
Liberalism is not a principle.....it's a scourge. Carter is a nice man and he has a good heart, but his fatal flaw was his unabashed liberalism. Ronald Reagan crushed him in one of the biggest landslides in history.
I heard Carly Fiorina blew everyone away in the JV game. I'm not surprised.
She reminds me of Maggie Thatcher.
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Location: Online | These debates are just something for people to talk about and discuss to death. Something for the Liberals to twist words and Conservatives to drool over. It doesn't matter how well any of them do. The idiotic Republican establishment will pick their golden child. Jeb Bush. God help us.....
I like Ben Carson, but I don't think he's flamboyant enough. I know that's sad. Trump can't be trusted, although he's not afraid. I don't know anything about Carly, other than the Liberals heads spin over her time at HP. I'm not sure what she did there, but they get their panties in a wad over it. The rest are old, tired career politicians that make me cringe. | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | It's been 'politics as usual' in DC for so long the people there can't see outside the box they live in. Trump spent his whole life living outside the box along with the rest of us. He is neither politically correct nor diplomatic. He speaks the people's language. None of the big league politicians or the press know what to do with a man like this.
They stand back and sling buckets of mud, just hoping some of it sticks. Yet none of it does. They can't figure out why this tactic isn't working. It always did before. Trump is the only one running for office that is thinking outside the box.
He's the only one that knows how. All the rest are career politicians and would sooner be caught walking the street naked than be caught in public saying something politically INcorrect or being undiplomatic.
Now you watch as the race continues. They will try doing the same thing and will fall flat on their faces because they can't 'think like common people...as fast as common people', and Trump can. They have to stop and get advice from experts before they can say anything outside of a script, for fear of offending someone in Madagascar. | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | LOL!!! This is going to leave everyone scratching their heads!!!!! 
**DRUDGE POLL**
WHO WON THE FIRST REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?
BUSH 2.1% (6,106 votes)
CARSON 8.51% (24,753 votes)
CHRISTIE 1.18% (3,429 votes)
CRUZ 13.12% (38,169 votes)
HUCKABEE 3% (8,716 votes)
KASICH 4.16% (12,096 votes)
PAUL 7.5% (21,814 votes)
RUBIO 8.14% (23,681 votes)
TRUMP 48.79% (141,923 votes)
WALKER 3.5% (10,214 votes)
Total Votes: 290,901
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Wow, it's hard to believe that poll. They went after Trump right out of the box and I thought it seemed pretty brutal. I didn't see the whole debate though. From what I hear, if Carly Fiorina doesn't at least move into the top 10 something is drastically wrong. | |
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LOL!!! This is going to leave everyone scratching their heads!!!!!
**DRUDGE POLL**
WHO WON THE FIRST REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?
BUSH 2.1% (6,106 votes )
CARSON 8.51% (24,753 votes )
CHRISTIE 1.18% (3,429 votes )
CRUZ 13.12% (38,169 votes )
HUCKABEE 3% (8,716 votes )
KASICH 4.16% (12,096 votes )
PAUL 7.5% (21,814 votes )
RUBIO 8.14% (23,681 votes )
TRUMP 48.79% (141,923 votes )
WALKER 3.5% (10,214 votes )
Total Votes: 290,901
It does me! I found Trump to be aggressive, angry, lost, lacked depth in his answers, and dodged just as well of not better than the career politicians next to him. Cruz I expected. I really figured of see Rubio and Huckabee up at the top! | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Bear - 2015-08-07 6:29 AM
Wow, it's hard to believe that poll. They went after Trump right out of the box and I thought it seemed pretty brutal. I didn't see the whole debate though. From what I hear, if Carly Fiorina doesn't at least move into the top 10 something is drastically wrong.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | When we see some of these so-called "polls" we need to remember that most really aren't scientific polls. They are meaningless because they aren't designed to give an accurate representation of public sentiments across the board. The real polls like Quinnipiac are designed to at least attempt to be accurate. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | After watching that debate, I guess that I don't "get" the Trump Band Wagon either........... he gave me NOTHING....and now this morning he is "boo-hooing" about how unfair they were to him. I saw tougher questions to the others and there are quite a few who stood out ahead of him. I see him only as a "spoiler"......there is a BIG difference in being "poitically correct" and just being RESPECTFUL ! ! | |
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| NJJ - 2015-08-08 6:08 AM After watching that debate, I guess that I don't "get" the Trump Band Wagon either........... he gave me NOTHING....and now this morning he is "boo-hooing" about how unfair they were to him. I saw tougher questions to the others and there are quite a few who stood out ahead of him. I see him only as a "spoiler"......there is a BIG difference in being "poitically correct" and just being RESPECTFUL ! !
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Location: Florida.. | komet. - 2015-08-07 1:19 AM It's been 'politics as usual' in DC for so long the people there can't see outside the box they live in. Trump spent his whole life living outside the box along with the rest of us. He is neither politically correct nor diplomatic. He speaks the people's language. None of the big league politicians or the press know what to do with a man like this. They stand back and sling buckets of mud, just hoping some of it sticks. Yet none of it does. They can't figure out why this tactic isn't working. It always did before. Trump is the only one running for office that is thinking outside the box. He's the only one that knows how. All the rest are career politicians and would sooner be caught walking the street naked than be caught in public saying something politically INcorrect or being undiplomatic. Now you watch as the race continues. They will try doing the same thing and will fall flat on their faces because they can't 'think like common people...as fast as common people', and Trump can. They have to stop and get advice from experts before they can say anything outside of a script, for fear of offending someone in Madagascar.
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Location: Florida.. | Trump is leading I think because people are ****ed.. He is aggressive and speaking for the people. hes not Politically correct as komet mentioned..I agree
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Location: Florida.. | FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 9:34 AM Did anyone listen to Fiorina's response to Trump's performance last night! Good for her!!!
do you have a link? I dont watch tv. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2015-08-07 7:18 AM When we see some of these so-called "polls" we need to remember that most really aren't scientific polls. They are meaningless because they aren't designed to give an accurate representation of public sentiments across the board. The real polls like Quinnipiac are designed to at least attempt to be accurate.
What I thought was interesting was the "Focus" group that they assembled to watch the debate.....coming into the debate it was a majority support for Trump....after the debate that group dropped him like a "hot potato".....Only two or three still saw him as a viable candidate. They had shifted to Cruz and Rubio.
Instead of answering the questions, Trump danced around them and tried to make jokes that fell flat! He puts out a lot of "hot air" about what he is going to do....forgetting that he has to have the backing of the Republicans in Congress, who, he has been very adept at p*ssing off.........As long as he stays in the race, IMO, it will take that much longer for a viable candidate to be able to take on Hillary. | |
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Location: West Texas | Here are my thoughts, Trump got hosed by Fox. More people are mad at Fox for what they tried to do to him and therefore it wont stick. He could have done better, he had some moments that were actually really good.
There is a really good field but politics may not get you anywhere this year. The only one that really pulls of being a good politician and a to the point realist is Ted Cruz. Fox purposefully gave him little time and he used it well. He is my candidate no doubt.
I am closet Trump fan and he is good for this process, take it to the media and say what needs to be said. I do think he could win, and if he does, he has a 50/50 chance at being a good President, but he certainly has the risk of being a terrible one. That is what concerns me most about him.
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| Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 8:35 AM
FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 9:34 AM Did anyone listen to Fiorina's response to Trump's performance last night! Good for her!!!
do you have a link? I dont watch tv.
http://m.kwch.com/fiorina-trumps-kelly-response-inappropriate/34592...
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | NJJ - 2015-08-07 8:40 AM
Bear - 2015-08-07 7:18 AM When we see some of these so-called "polls" we need to remember that most really aren't scientific polls. They are meaningless because they aren't designed to give an accurate representation of public sentiments across the board. The real polls like Quinnipiac are designed to at least attempt to be accurate.
What I thought was interesting was the "Focus" group that they assembled to watch the debate.....coming into the debate it was a majority support for Trump....after the debate that group dropped him like a "hot potato".....Only two or three still saw him as a viable candidate. They had shifted to Cruz and Rubio.
Instead of answering the questions, Trump danced around them and tried to make jokes that fell flat! He puts out a lot of "hot air" about what he is going to do....forgetting that he has to have the backing of the Republicans in Congress, who, he has been very adept at p*ssing off.........As long as he stays in the race, IMO, it will take that much longer for a viable candidate to be able to take on Hillary.
I did see that part last night, and I agree it was pretty striking. I think Trump resonates with a lot of people who are fed up with our "stupid leaders" as he refers to them. We gave the GOP a majority in both houses, and so far what have they accomplished? Obama is still running roughshod over them.
If Trump decides to pull a Perot, then the Democrat candidate will easily coast to a win. He will always have a pretty significant following because people are pis$ed off.
Fortunately the election is over a year away. That's an eternity in politics.
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Location: Florida.. | watch the entire thing hes using it for leverage.. to GOP..hannity is great in this interview and Donald makes some good points.....https://youtu.be/IwStSDWw-ks
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Location: Florida.. | FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 9:51 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 8:35 AM FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 9:34 AM Did anyone listen to Fiorina's response to Trump's performance last night! Good for her!!! do you have a link? I dont watch tv. This is it, I listened to it on the radio but heres an article on it
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Bear - 2015-08-06 10:05 AM
NJJ - 2015-08-07 8:40 AM
Bear - 2015-08-07 7:18 AM When we see some of these so-called "polls" we need to remember that most really aren't scientific polls. They are meaningless because they aren't designed to give an accurate representation of public sentiments across the board. The real polls like Quinnipiac are designed to at least attempt to be accurate.
What I thought was interesting was the "Focus" group that they assembled to watch the debate.....coming into the debate it was a majority support for Trump....after the debate that group dropped him like a "hot potato".....Only two or three still saw him as a viable candidate. They had shifted to Cruz and Rubio.
Instead of answering the questions, Trump danced around them and tried to make jokes that fell flat! He puts out a lot of "hot air" about what he is going to do....forgetting that he has to have the backing of the Republicans in Congress, who, he has been very adept at p*ssing off.........As long as he stays in the race, IMO, it will take that much longer for a viable candidate to be able to take on Hillary.
I did see that part last night, and I agree it was pretty striking. I think Trump resonates with a lot of people who are fed up with our "stupid leaders" as he refers to them. We gave the GOP a majority in both houses, and so far what have they accomplished? Obama is still running roughshod over them.
If Trump decides to pull a Perot, then the Democrat candidate will easily coast to a win. He will always have a pretty significant following because people are pis$ed off.
Fortunately the election is over a year away. That's an eternity in politics.
Lots can and will happen.
Just done sorry but we've had politicians that have all the right answers what has it got us.....That would be Obama. Twice.
Border is still basically open no one does nothing bout that.
Obamacare......it's not affordable sorry that's a lie. My premiums increase to a $1200.00 monthly $12k deductible for 2 people.
On and good lord let's ask the stupidest question of the night.....have you heard from God.
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Location: Beggs, OK | Tdove - 2015-08-07 8:43 AM Here are my thoughts, Trump got hosed by Fox. More people are mad at Fox for what they tried to do to him and therefore it wont stick. He could have done better, he had some moments that were actually really good. There is a really good field but politics may not get you anywhere this year. The only one that really pulls of being a good politician and a to the point realist is Ted Cruz. Fox purposefully gave him little time and he used it well. He is my candidate no doubt. I am closet Trump fan and he is good for this process, take it to the media and say what needs to be said. I do think he could win, and if he does, he has a 50/50 chance at being a good President, but he certainly has the risk of being a terrible one. That is what concerns me most about him. Go Ted Cruz!
They went after Trump on a personal level that they didn't stoop to with the other candidates. I've always liked Megyn, but last night was not one of her finer moments. She showed immediately that she didn't like Trump, and gushed over Carson. I like Carson as well, but last night showed that while he is a brilliant man, he is more than likely in over his head. He's confident about what he knows, but he doesn't know much about foreign policy. The presidency is backed up by more resources than ever before...and a non-politician can come into office and do a good job. They have to come in and act like they own the place though....That's how we ended up with a two term president who was previously a "community organizer" Senator with no actual record or experience. | |
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Location: The edge of no where | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 9:43 AM Tdove - 2015-08-07 8:43 AM Here are my thoughts, Trump got hosed by Fox. More people are mad at Fox for what they tried to do to him and therefore it wont stick. He could have done better, he had some moments that were actually really good. There is a really good field but politics may not get you anywhere this year. The only one that really pulls of being a good politician and a to the point realist is Ted Cruz. Fox purposefully gave him little time and he used it well. He is my candidate no doubt. I am closet Trump fan and he is good for this process, take it to the media and say what needs to be said. I do think he could win, and if he does, he has a 50/50 chance at being a good President, but he certainly has the risk of being a terrible one. That is what concerns me most about him. Go Ted Cruz! They went after Trump on a personal level that they didn't stoop to with the other candidates. I've always liked Megyn, but last night was not one of her finer moments. She showed immediately that she didn't like Trump, and gushed over Carson. I like Carson as well, but last night showed that while he is a brilliant man, he is more than likely in over his head. He's confident about what he knows, but he doesn't know much about foreign policy. The presidency is backed up by more resources than ever before...and a non-politician can come into office and do a good job. They have to come in and act like they own the place though....That's how we ended up with a two term president who was previously a "community organizer" Senator with no actual record or experience.
^^ I like Megyn as well....but thought that going after Trump for 'disparaging remarks toward women' was stupid and a cheap shot....total waste of tv time. | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Does anyone else find Rand Paul to come across as a bit of a weasel? ...I've liked some of the things he's had to say in the past, but last night was very off-putting. I thought Rubio did well and Cruz didn't get much of a chance to say anything.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | MS2011 - 2015-08-07 9:47 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 9:43 AM Tdove - 2015-08-07 8:43 AM Here are my thoughts, Trump got hosed by Fox. More people are mad at Fox for what they tried to do to him and therefore it wont stick. He could have done better, he had some moments that were actually really good. There is a really good field but politics may not get you anywhere this year. The only one that really pulls of being a good politician and a to the point realist is Ted Cruz. Fox purposefully gave him little time and he used it well. He is my candidate no doubt. I am closet Trump fan and he is good for this process, take it to the media and say what needs to be said. I do think he could win, and if he does, he has a 50/50 chance at being a good President, but he certainly has the risk of being a terrible one. That is what concerns me most about him. Go Ted Cruz! They went after Trump on a personal level that they didn't stoop to with the other candidates. I've always liked Megyn, but last night was not one of her finer moments. She showed immediately that she didn't like Trump, and gushed over Carson. I like Carson as well, but last night showed that while he is a brilliant man, he is more than likely in over his head. He's confident about what he knows, but he doesn't know much about foreign policy. The presidency is backed up by more resources than ever before...and a non-politician can come into office and do a good job. They have to come in and act like they own the place though....That's how we ended up with a two term president who was previously a "community organizer" Senator with no actual record or experience.
Why.......because it showed that he really does NOT respect most women.........and NOT just Rosie O'Donnell. Have you ever watched his TV show or really listened to him (about and his interactions with women)? He only respects those that he can intimidate! | |
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Location: NE Texas | MS2011 - 2015-08-07 9:47 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 9:43 AM Tdove - 2015-08-07 8:43 AM Here are my thoughts, Trump got hosed by Fox. More people are mad at Fox for what they tried to do to him and therefore it wont stick. He could have done better, he had some moments that were actually really good. There is a really good field but politics may not get you anywhere this year. The only one that really pulls of being a good politician and a to the point realist is Ted Cruz. Fox purposefully gave him little time and he used it well. He is my candidate no doubt. I am closet Trump fan and he is good for this process, take it to the media and say what needs to be said. I do think he could win, and if he does, he has a 50/50 chance at being a good President, but he certainly has the risk of being a terrible one. That is what concerns me most about him. Go Ted Cruz! They went after Trump on a personal level that they didn't stoop to with the other candidates. I've always liked Megyn, but last night was not one of her finer moments. She showed immediately that she didn't like Trump, and gushed over Carson. I like Carson as well, but last night showed that while he is a brilliant man, he is more than likely in over his head. He's confident about what he knows, but he doesn't know much about foreign policy. The presidency is backed up by more resources than ever before...and a non-politician can come into office and do a good job. They have to come in and act like they own the place though....That's how we ended up with a two term president who was previously a "community organizer" Senator with no actual record or experience.
I agree with all of you. I thought the after show was meant nothing more than to prove that Trump was not a viable person in this race. The focus group that the "Tommy Boy" look a like had gathered up was obviously a carefully hand picked group to prove a point, and that is that Trump isn't our guy. I was VERY disappointed in Megyn and her after debate show last night and how she chose to sway the situation. The Donald scares the HE!! out of these analysts and politicians because he won't dance like a chicken when the heat is turned up on the stage. He doesn't care about status quo, and he isn't going to be bullied into the popular decision. I'm so sick of politicians telling us what we want to hear and then doing nothing. Every one is so polished and so vanilla.....I want some Strawberry or orange sorbet, dang it!
I'm not saying that Trump is the guy, but he is refreshing and I think it would be interesting to see what he would get done in Washington. It may go very bad, but it may go very well. I hope he gets the shot to at least try! | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Herbie - 2015-08-07 9:56 AM MS2011 - 2015-08-07 9:47 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 9:43 AM Tdove - 2015-08-07 8:43 AM Here are my thoughts, Trump got hosed by Fox. More people are mad at Fox for what they tried to do to him and therefore it wont stick. He could have done better, he had some moments that were actually really good. There is a really good field but politics may not get you anywhere this year. The only one that really pulls of being a good politician and a to the point realist is Ted Cruz. Fox purposefully gave him little time and he used it well. He is my candidate no doubt. I am closet Trump fan and he is good for this process, take it to the media and say what needs to be said. I do think he could win, and if he does, he has a 50/50 chance at being a good President, but he certainly has the risk of being a terrible one. That is what concerns me most about him. Go Ted Cruz! They went after Trump on a personal level that they didn't stoop to with the other candidates. I've always liked Megyn, but last night was not one of her finer moments. She showed immediately that she didn't like Trump, and gushed over Carson. I like Carson as well, but last night showed that while he is a brilliant man, he is more than likely in over his head. He's confident about what he knows, but he doesn't know much about foreign policy. The presidency is backed up by more resources than ever before...and a non-politician can come into office and do a good job. They have to come in and act like they own the place though....That's how we ended up with a two term president who was previously a "community organizer" Senator with no actual record or experience.
I'm not saying that Trump is the guy, but he is refreshing and I think it would be interesting to see what he would get done in Washington. It may go very bad, but it may go very well. I hope he gets the shot to at least try!
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Location: North Dakota | Well I was totally enthrawled with this debate! I liked Trump coming into it but was NOT impressed with his performance. I was also not impressed with Rand although I do like him for the most part. Christi, Jeb, and Kasich all suck. I can NOT STAND any of them. I liked Scott Walker but he didn't really stand out that much. I was very impressed with how Huckabee, Kruse, and Fiorina and think Rubio and Carson are also in the top as well. Really I'd be happy to see any of them get the nomination. | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2015-08-07 9:51 AM
MS2011 - 2015-08-07 9:47 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 9:43 AM Tdove - 2015-08-07 8:43 AM Here are my thoughts, Trump got hosed by Fox. More people are mad at Fox for what they tried to do to him and therefore it wont stick. He could have done better, he had some moments that were actually really good. There is a really good field but politics may not get you anywhere this year. The only one that really pulls of being a good politician and a to the point realist is Ted Cruz. Fox purposefully gave him little time and he used it well. He is my candidate no doubt. I am closet Trump fan and he is good for this process, take it to the media and say what needs to be said. I do think he could win, and if he does, he has a 50/50 chance at being a good President, but he certainly has the risk of being a terrible one. That is what concerns me most about him. Go Ted Cruz! They went after Trump on a personal level that they didn't stoop to with the other candidates. I've always liked Megyn, but last night was not one of her finer moments. She showed immediately that she didn't like Trump, and gushed over Carson. I like Carson as well, but last night showed that while he is a brilliant man, he is more than likely in over his head. He's confident about what he knows, but he doesn't know much about foreign policy. The presidency is backed up by more resources than ever before...and a non-politician can come into office and do a good job. They have to come in and act like they own the place though....That's how we ended up with a two term president who was previously a "community organizer" Senator with no actual record or experience.
No. Because it was obviously mud slinging politics. She's still trying to get some to stick in a tactic that has ALWAYS worked before... She's madder than he|| about the fact a time proven method of operation is not working against what she believes to be a buffoon. And she wonders why he does not show more respect. | |
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Location: Florida.. | The way I see it you have to give respect to get respect and the women he has attacked are not respectable IMHO..they are just as disrespectful .. maybe not all
to judge off that is ludicroius. to make assumptions off a reality show to is farfetched.. but we knew mudslinging would happen | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 10:44 AM The way I see it you have to give respect to get respect and the women he has attacked are not respectable IMHO..they are just as disrespectful .. maybe not all
to judge off that is ludicroius. to make assumptions off a reality show to is farfetched.. but we knew mudslinging would happen
I can't think of one respected female that he has treated badly? He calls a spade a spade no matter the gender. We just aren't used to the gloves being off when a self righteous liberal feminist goes after a man and gets it right back. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 10:53 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 10:44 AM The way I see it you have to give respect to get respect and the women he has attacked are not respectable IMHO..they are just as disrespectful .. maybe not all
to judge off that is ludicroius. to make assumptions off a reality show to is farfetched.. but we knew mudslinging would happen I can't think of one respected female that he has treated badly? He calls a spade a spade no matter the gender. We just aren't used to the gloves being off when a self righteous liberal feminist goes after a man and gets it right back.
Get real.....those were just examples....apparently you have not watched this man over the last 20 years or so....he does NOT respect women (maybe ask his previous wives, girlfriends, or previous employees).
And he is the ONLY one, this morning, "whining and complaining" like a spoiled brat about how he was treated.....booo-hoooo!
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Location: NE Texas | I guess I have a different view of things, as we all do, and should. As an used car dealer once told me when I asked him why he even wasted his time cleaning up those old nasty Pintos back in the day, he replied, "There's an a$$ for every seat.", and that is a slogan I have found to apply to many different things in this world.
I don't typically get involved in politics, I don't watch Fox News or even have much of a clue as to what any of the candidates stand for beyond what is reported on my local morning news, so I really felt as if I was coming into the debate less biased than most. I didn't feel as though they picked on Trump during the debate whatsoever. I think they asked him questions and he answered them....sometimes in a slapstick way, but his way. I respect that. Yes, i've watched his TV show and he is an outspoken individual no matter the sex of his opponent, but I can't say that I believe he is a woman hater or has no respect for all women in this world. I think he has no respect for alot of people, men and women, and that it just happens to be some outspoken women who have pulled his chain and gotten called out for it. Again, just my opinion. Another skewed perception, as it gets more ratings if he's bashing a poor, pitiful woman rather than a red blooded American man. Come on.....
I'm not boo-hooing.....i'm calling it like I see it. There are other candidates on the stage I like ok, and some I really don't like at all and can't even stand to look at. I'm just replying based on my observations of the night, not as an overly political analyst who hangs on every word they all say. At the end of the day, democrats vs. republicans is nothing more than a Washington version of bloods vs. crypts, and their goal is to block each other from getting anything done in the House and Senate. I'm looking for someone who isn't die hard red or blue, i'm looking for someone who can and will straddle the line to maybe, just maybe, give these two "gangs" some common ground to stand on. That being said I was admittedly happy to see Trump raise his hand when the question was posed as to who would not pledge their support to whomever was chosen as the candidate. Finally someone who isn't going to back a person just because of what color they where, what animal represents them, or what is popular or expected.....I personally like it! I'm not going to blindly follow the masses either if I don't agree with them, so I applaud him for that statement.
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rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 10:53 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 10:44 AM The way I see it you have to give respect to get respect and the women he has attacked are not respectable IMHO..they are just as disrespectful .. maybe not all
to judge off that is ludicroius. to make assumptions off a reality show to is farfetched.. but we knew mudslinging would happen I can't think of one respected female that he has treated badly? He calls a spade a spade no matter the gender. We just aren't used to the gloves being off when a self righteous liberal feminist goes after a man and gets it right back.
And he is the ONLY one, this morning, "whining and complaining" like a spoiled brat about how he was treated.....booo-hoooo!
That's because he's the only one of the ten that the moderators tried to smear. BLATANTLY!! | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | NJJ - 2015-08-07 11:00 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 10:53 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 10:44 AM The way I see it you have to give respect to get respect and the women he has attacked are not respectable IMHO..they are just as disrespectful .. maybe not all
to judge off that is ludicroius. to make assumptions off a reality show to is farfetched.. but we knew mudslinging would happen I can't think of one respected female that he has treated badly? He calls a spade a spade no matter the gender. We just aren't used to the gloves being off when a self righteous liberal feminist goes after a man and gets it right back.
And he is the ONLY one, this morning, "whining and complaining" like a spoiled brat about how he was treated.....booo-hoooo!
Norma, I can see how you would have a problem with him. There are very few instances where I have seen you with any class or grace.
He WAS singled out last night. I have watched the interviews this morning and that man is anything but a whiner. Women who go toe to toe with a man should not expect to be treated like ladies. He might be obnoxious, but you cannot doubt that the man is extremely intelligent, successful, and a direct contrast from what we have ever seen in the White House. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Like it or not, in this day and age, if one makes ugly disparaging remarks about women, even if they deserve it, you are in trouble....particularly in the political arena. There weren't too many softball questions last night. Several candidates were called on to defend inconsistencies and deficiencies. I do think they were going after Trump, but that's OK.....in fact its probably good. The debate was hard hitting, fast moving, and reasonably well controlled. I usually like Megyn and I sure don't think she's a liberal. She sure as hell doesn't like Trump though. This is all good. We need some bare knuckles brawling.....big time. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2015-08-07 11:05 AM NJJ - 2015-08-07 11:00 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 10:53 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 10:44 AM The way I see it you have to give respect to get respect and the women he has attacked are not respectable IMHO..they are just as disrespectful .. maybe not all
to judge off that is ludicroius. to make assumptions off a reality show to is farfetched.. but we knew mudslinging would happen I can't think of one respected female that he has treated badly? He calls a spade a spade no matter the gender. We just aren't used to the gloves being off when a self righteous liberal feminist goes after a man and gets it right back.
And he is the ONLY one, this morning, "whining and complaining" like a spoiled brat about how he was treated.....booo-hoooo!
That's because he's the only one of the ten that the moderators tried to smear. BLATANTLY!!
SMEAR????? He made the statements.....why can't he back them? He acts like a spoiled child......prehaps he will try to sue Megan Kelly.....check out how many lawsuits he has filed because he couldn't bully and run over them.
By the way.....do you even vote?
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 11:07 AM NJJ - 2015-08-07 11:00 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 10:53 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 10:44 AM The way I see it you have to give respect to get respect and the women he has attacked are not respectable IMHO..they are just as disrespectful .. maybe not all
to judge off that is ludicroius. to make assumptions off a reality show to is farfetched.. but we knew mudslinging would happen I can't think of one respected female that he has treated badly? He calls a spade a spade no matter the gender. We just aren't used to the gloves being off when a self righteous liberal feminist goes after a man and gets it right back.
And he is the ONLY one, this morning, "whining and complaining" like a spoiled brat about how he was treated.....booo-hoooo!
He WAS singled out last night. I have watched the interviews this morning and that man is anything but a whiner. Women who go toe to toe with a man should not expect to be treated like ladies. He might be obnoxious, but you cannot doubt that the man is extremely intelligent, successful, and a direct contrast from what we have ever seen in the White House.
Well, apparently, you have no class either or are you just an A$$ ?
Good job on "personal" attacks".......
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2015-08-07 11:08 AM Like it or not, in this day and age, if one makes ugly disparaging remarks about women, even if they deserve it, you are in trouble....particularly in the political arena. There weren't too many softball questions last night. Several candidates were called on to defend inconsistencies and deficiencies. I do think they were going after Trump, but that's OK.....in fact its probably good. The debate was hard hitting, fast moving, and reasonably well controlled. I usually like Megyn and I sure don't think she's a liberal. She sure as hell doesn't like Trump though. This is all good. We need some bare knuckles brawling.....big time.
^^^^ THIS.....and if he is the candidate, he had better get used to it.....Hillary will be a whole lot nastier! | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | NJJ - 2015-08-07 11:12 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 11:07 AM NJJ - 2015-08-07 11:00 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 10:53 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 10:44 AM The way I see it you have to give respect to get respect and the women he has attacked are not respectable IMHO..they are just as disrespectful .. maybe not all
to judge off that is ludicroius. to make assumptions off a reality show to is farfetched.. but we knew mudslinging would happen I can't think of one respected female that he has treated badly? He calls a spade a spade no matter the gender. We just aren't used to the gloves being off when a self righteous liberal feminist goes after a man and gets it right back.
And he is the ONLY one, this morning, "whining and complaining" like a spoiled brat about how he was treated.....booo-hoooo!
He WAS singled out last night. I have watched the interviews this morning and that man is anything but a whiner. Women who go toe to toe with a man should not expect to be treated like ladies. He might be obnoxious, but you cannot doubt that the man is extremely intelligent, successful, and a direct contrast from what we have ever seen in the White House.
Good job on "personal" attacks".......
I didn't say ever....and I sure didn't call you any names. Just expressing my opinion like everyone else on here, based on what I've seen for the past 9 years. | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2015-08-07 11:09 AM
komet. - 2015-08-07 11:05 AM NJJ - 2015-08-07 11:00 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 10:53 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 10:44 AM The way I see it you have to give respect to get respect and the women he has attacked are not respectable IMHO..they are just as disrespectful .. maybe not all
to judge off that is ludicroius. to make assumptions off a reality show to is farfetched.. but we knew mudslinging would happen I can't think of one respected female that he has treated badly? He calls a spade a spade no matter the gender. We just aren't used to the gloves being off when a self righteous liberal feminist goes after a man and gets it right back.
And he is the ONLY one, this morning, "whining and complaining" like a spoiled brat about how he was treated.....booo-hoooo!
That's because he's the only one of the ten that the moderators tried to smear. BLATANTLY!!
By the way.....do you even vote?
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Location: Florida.. | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 11:53 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 10:44 AM The way I see it you have to give respect to get respect and the women he has attacked are not respectable IMHO..they are just as disrespectful .. maybe not all
to judge off that is ludicroius. to make assumptions off a reality show to is farfetched.. but we knew mudslinging would happen I can't think of one respected female that he has treated badly? He calls a spade a spade no matter the gender. We just aren't used to the gloves being off when a self righteous liberal feminist goes after a man and gets it right back.
I agree.. To much tiptoeing around the obnoxoius women because mnen are afraid to be called women bashers.. well if they can do it so can he.. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 11:15 AM NJJ - 2015-08-07 11:12 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 11:07 AM NJJ - 2015-08-07 11:00 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 10:53 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 10:44 AM The way I see it you have to give respect to get respect and the women he has attacked are not respectable IMHO..they are just as disrespectful .. maybe not all
to judge off that is ludicroius. to make assumptions off a reality show to is farfetched.. but we knew mudslinging would happen I can't think of one respected female that he has treated badly? He calls a spade a spade no matter the gender. We just aren't used to the gloves being off when a self righteous liberal feminist goes after a man and gets it right back.
And he is the ONLY one, this morning, "whining and complaining" like a spoiled brat about how he was treated.....booo-hoooo!
He WAS singled out last night. I have watched the interviews this morning and that man is anything but a whiner. Women who go toe to toe with a man should not expect to be treated like ladies. He might be obnoxious, but you cannot doubt that the man is extremely intelligent, successful, and a direct contrast from what we have ever seen in the White House.
Good job on "personal" attacks".......
Thank you for your kind words.....I guess attacking me regarding class, etc, bolsters YOUR opinions and makes you feel so much better about yourself....good for you! | |
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| I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress?
If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me....
I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions
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Now now! Easy girls...easy! Ima gonna have to jump in and separate the mares, I guess.
I love it when people give a sh!t.
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Location: SE Louisiana | FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 11:30 AM
I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress?
If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me....
I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions
When he has to deal with congress, he will treat them like the spoiled children they are. Haul them to the woodshed and spank their a$$es. If he gets elected he will be the people's president and congress will either work with him or he will go to the people and they will vote them out onto the street in two years. This is the first step of a journey that is long overdue. He can be the catalyst we need to change our government. He WILL use some of the secrets that are held in DC to get things done. | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Whiteboy - 2015-08-06 2:32 PM I hoping for a breakout moment for Carson. I love the way he thinks. Hopefully he has the strength to stand out and express those ideas. It's time for a REAL black president rather than a pathetic community organizer. I'm coming late to the party but I was very pleased the way Carson came across last night. He was speaking instead of whining like he does when he is on Fox News.
I agree with Trump on so many things and yes, he is crude but I don't care if he would call me a POS, fat old broad if he can get this country back on track. The political correctness is out of hand and I really think he could bring that BS back to the middle. I want to see this country come back to be a great nation instead of what it has become.
Carly was beyond awesome and I would love to see her go toe to toe with Hillary. I think she could make Hillary throw her sucker in the ground. Any male candidate going after Hillary will be labeled a bully.
What is really exciting is there weren't many losers last night in that group on the stage and many would make a good president. Most did well but what will kill many is if they continue the course of trying to end abortions. Late term abortions with all we have seen is a good thing. Trying to end abortion will hand the election over to the Dems.
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Location: Florida.. | komet. - 2015-08-07 12:39 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 11:30 AM I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress? If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me.... I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions When he has to deal with congress, he will treat them like the spoiled children they are. Haul them to the woodshed and spank their a$$es. If he gets elected he will be the people's president and congress will either work with him or he will go to the people and they will vote them out onto the street in two years. This is the first step of a journey that is long overdue. He can be the catalyst we need to change our government. He WILL use some of the secrets that are held in DC to get things done.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | rachellyn80 - 2015-08-07 9:43 AM Tdove - 2015-08-07 8:43 AM Here are my thoughts, Trump got hosed by Fox. More people are mad at Fox for what they tried to do to him and therefore it wont stick. He could have done better, he had some moments that were actually really good. There is a really good field but politics may not get you anywhere this year. The only one that really pulls of being a good politician and a to the point realist is Ted Cruz. Fox purposefully gave him little time and he used it well. He is my candidate no doubt. I am closet Trump fan and he is good for this process, take it to the media and say what needs to be said. I do think he could win, and if he does, he has a 50/50 chance at being a good President, but he certainly has the risk of being a terrible one. That is what concerns me most about him. Go Ted Cruz! They went after Trump on a personal level that they didn't stoop to with the other candidates. I've always liked Megyn, but last night was not one of her finer moments. She showed immediately that she didn't like Trump, and gushed over Carson. I like Carson as well, but last night showed that while he is a brilliant man, he is more than likely in over his head. He's confident about what he knows, but he doesn't know much about foreign policy. The presidency is backed up by more resources than ever before...and a non-politician can come into office and do a good job. They have to come in and act like they own the place though....That's how we ended up with a two term president who was previously a "community organizer" Senator with no actual record or experience.
At first I was kind of ticked how Kelly went after Trump but then on the other hand it is now out there and he answered instead of the rumor mill talking about it. I think it helped him in the long run.
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Location: Red Raiderland | Herbie - 2015-08-07 11:03 AM I guess I have a different view of things, as we all do, and should. As an used car dealer once told me when I asked him why he even wasted his time cleaning up those old nasty Pintos back in the day, he replied, "There's an a$$ for every seat.", and that is a slogan I have found to apply to many different things in this world.
I don't typically get involved in politics, I don't watch Fox News or even have much of a clue as to what any of the candidates stand for beyond what is reported on my local morning news, so I really felt as if I was coming into the debate less biased than most. I didn't feel as though they picked on Trump during the debate whatsoever. I think they asked him questions and he answered them....sometimes in a slapstick way, but his way. I respect that. Yes, i've watched his TV show and he is an outspoken individual no matter the sex of his opponent, but I can't say that I believe he is a woman hater or has no respect for all women in this world. I think he has no respect for alot of people, men and women, and that it just happens to be some outspoken women who have pulled his chain and gotten called out for it. Again, just my opinion. Another skewed perception, as it gets more ratings if he's bashing a poor, pitiful woman rather than a red blooded American man. Come on.....
I'm not boo-hooing.....i'm calling it like I see it. There are other candidates on the stage I like ok, and some I really don't like at all and can't even stand to look at. I'm just replying based on my observations of the night, not as an overly political analyst who hangs on every word they all say. At the end of the day, democrats vs. republicans is nothing more than a Washington version of bloods vs. crypts, and their goal is to block each other from getting anything done in the House and Senate. I'm looking for someone who isn't die hard red or blue, i'm looking for someone who can and will straddle the line to maybe, just maybe, give these two "gangs" some common ground to stand on. That being said I was admittedly happy to see Trump raise his hand when the question was posed as to who would not pledge their support to whomever was chosen as the candidate. Finally someone who isn't going to back a person just because of what color they where, what animal represents them, or what is popular or expected.....I personally like it! I'm not going to blindly follow the masses either if I don't agree with them, so I applaud him for that statement.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 12:22 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 12:39 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 11:30 AM I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress? If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me.... I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions When he has to deal with congress, he will treat them like the spoiled children they are. Haul them to the woodshed and spank their a$$es. If he gets elected he will be the people's president and congress will either work with him or he will go to the people and they will vote them out onto the street in two years. This is the first step of a journey that is long overdue. He can be the catalyst we need to change our government. He WILL use some of the secrets that are held in DC to get things done.
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Location: Florida.. | someone had posted this on a thread I agree..
There are far more important issues to be discussing Megan Kelly: about your war on women question...
If I was Trump, I would have dumped that BS back in your lap.
Our nation is pushing 20 trillion in debt, Iran is getting nukes, ISIS is chopping off Americans heads and burning people alive in cages, our government is paying an agency to chop up and sell the body parts of aborted babies and YOU are asking a candidate to address an imaginary war on women issue created by the Democratic Party?
Can we please utilize our time to discuss REAL issues that are threatening to destroy this nation? | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2015-08-07 12:32 PM
Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 12:22 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 12:39 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 11:30 AM I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress? If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me.... I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions When he has to deal with congress, he will treat them like the spoiled children they are. Haul them to the woodshed and spank their a$$es. If he gets elected he will be the people's president and congress will either work with him or he will go to the people and they will vote them out onto the street in two years. This is the first step of a journey that is long overdue. He can be the catalyst we need to change our government. He WILL use some of the secrets that are held in DC to get things done.
I believe the PEOPLE are beginning to understand the significance of 19,000,000,000,000 (nineteen trillion) dollars. Please allow me to explain it in terms you will understand.
Today I will give you a check for $1,000,000 (one million). CONDITIONALLY!! The condition is you have to spend ALL of that today, so you can come back tomorrow and get another check for $1,000,000... which you HAVE to spend tomorrow... so you can come back the next day and we do it again...
At the end of one year, you have spent 365 millions dollars.... At this rate it will take you OVER fifty-two THOUSAND YEARS to spend 19 trillion dollars... Jesus Christ was born just a smidgeon over 2 thousand years ago. So lets start there and go back another 50 thousand years. Look it up for yourself.
All of this has been done right under our noses.... But only now do the people begin to smell a rat.. BUT!! At least now they can smell it now. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | The vast majority of candidates have little to no "experience" in actual foreign policy experience, including senators, governors, and congressmen.
The only candidate with real foreign policy experience is Hillary, and we know how well she's done in that area. That being said, Carly demonstrated a commanding mastery of the subject matter of all the subjects, including foreign policy. It sounds like she was absolutely flawless. Her foreign policy experience is in the private sector, but she sure sounds prepared.
Over the last 40 years, we've only had one president with a lot of foreign policy experience, and that was Gerorge HW Bush. Even Reagan had zero foreign policy experience prior to taking office.
Fiorina possesses all the key ideas and principles of a solid, sound, tough conservative. She's always impressed the hell out of me. I can't wait to see how she handles all the tricky, nasty, "unfair" questions that are headed her way...including personal questions and "gottcha" questions. People don't expect candidates to have a flawless record, nor to they expect them to be perfect....but they do expect honesty and resilience.
Here's how I see it. Candidates need to be able to withstand a withering, probing, assault from the press. It's good to see how they handle the pressure, because that pressure is a walk in the park compared to the real pressures they will experience as president. I think it's meaningful to see how candidates handle "unfair" tough questions. Life isn't fair. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2015-08-07 12:51 PM NJJ - 2015-08-07 12:32 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 12:22 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 12:39 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 11:30 AM I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress? If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me.... I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions When he has to deal with congress, he will treat them like the spoiled children they are. Haul them to the woodshed and spank their a$$es. If he gets elected he will be the people's president and congress will either work with him or he will go to the people and they will vote them out onto the street in two years. This is the first step of a journey that is long overdue. He can be the catalyst we need to change our government. He WILL use some of the secrets that are held in DC to get things done. I believe the PEOPLE are beginning to understand the significance of 19,000,000,000,000 (nineteen trillion ) dollars. Please allow me to explain it in terms you will understand. Today I will give you a check for $1,000,000 (one million ). CONDITIONALLY!! The condition is you have to spend ALL of that today, so you can come back tomorrow and get another check for $1,000,000... which you HAVE to spend tomorrow... so you can come back the next day and we do it again... At the end of one year, you have spent 365 millions dollars.... At this rate it will take you OVER fifty-two THOUSAND YEARS to spend 19 trillion dollars... Jesus Christ was born just a smidgeon over 2 thousand years ago. So lets start there and go back another 50 thousand years. Look it up for yourself. All of this has been done right under our noses.... But only now do the people begin to smell a rat.. BUT!! At least now they can smell it now.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2015-08-07 1:03 PM The vast majority of candidates have little to no "experience" in actual foreign policy experience, including senators, governors, and congressmen. The only candidate with real foreign policy experience is Hillary, and we know how well she's done in that area. That being said, Carly demonstrated a commanding mastery of the subject matter of all the subjects, including foreign policy. It sounds like she was absolutely flawless. Her foreign policy experience is in the private sector, but she sure sounds prepared. Over the last 40 years, we've only had one president with a lot of foreign policy experience, and that was Gerorge HW Bush. Even Reagan had zero foreign policy experience prior to taking office. Fiorina possesses all the key ideas and principles of a solid, sound, tough conservative. She's always impressed the hell out of me. I can't wait to see how she handles all the tricky, nasty, "unfair" questions that are headed her way...including personal questions and "gottcha" questions. People don't expect candidates to have a flawless record, nor to they expect them to be perfect....but they do expect honesty and resilience. Here's how I see it. Candidates need to be able to withstand a withering, probing, assault from the press. It's good to see how they handle the pressure, because that pressure is a walk in the park compared to the real pressures they will experience as president. I think it's meaningful to see how candidates handle "unfair" tough questions. Life isn't fair.
I really wish that I had watched the "pre" debates. She is sounding like she could rise up in the ranks and be in the next debate. I have seen some clips of her. | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2015-08-07 1:04 PM
komet. - 2015-08-07 12:51 PM NJJ - 2015-08-07 12:32 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 12:22 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 12:39 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 11:30 AM I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress? If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me.... I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions When he has to deal with congress, he will treat them like the spoiled children they are. Haul them to the woodshed and spank their a$$es. If he gets elected he will be the people's president and congress will either work with him or he will go to the people and they will vote them out onto the street in two years. This is the first step of a journey that is long overdue. He can be the catalyst we need to change our government. He WILL use some of the secrets that are held in DC to get things done. I believe the PEOPLE are beginning to understand the significance of 19,000,000,000,000 (nineteen trillion ) dollars. Please allow me to explain it in terms you will understand. Today I will give you a check for $1,000,000 (one million ). CONDITIONALLY!! The condition is you have to spend ALL of that today, so you can come back tomorrow and get another check for $1,000,000... which you HAVE to spend tomorrow... so you can come back the next day and we do it again... At the end of one year, you have spent 365 millions dollars.... At this rate it will take you OVER fifty-two THOUSAND YEARS to spend 19 trillion dollars... Jesus Christ was born just a smidgeon over 2 thousand years ago. So lets start there and go back another 50 thousand years. Look it up for yourself. All of this has been done right under our noses.... But only now do the people begin to smell a rat.. BUT!! At least now they can smell it now.
Actually. I'm pretty good with numbers in my head... I didn't have to whip the calculator out till it was time to divide 19 trillion by 365 million. Fortunately Windows 8.1 comes with a calculator that counts into the hundreds of trillions. Have you spent the million dollars yet.... Better HURRY!!! You have a long row to hoe if Trump looses. Nobody can do it in four years.... Anyone that says they can, prolly has ocean front property in Montana to sell. It's WAY TOO LATE to get a fix in even eight years... But I honestly believe he can bring it down and set us on the right path.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2015-08-07 1:20 PM NJJ - 2015-08-07 1:04 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 12:51 PM NJJ - 2015-08-07 12:32 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 12:22 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 12:39 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 11:30 AM I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress? If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me.... I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions When he has to deal with congress, he will treat them like the spoiled children they are. Haul them to the woodshed and spank their a$$es. If he gets elected he will be the people's president and congress will either work with him or he will go to the people and they will vote them out onto the street in two years. This is the first step of a journey that is long overdue. He can be the catalyst we need to change our government. He WILL use some of the secrets that are held in DC to get things done. I believe the PEOPLE are beginning to understand the significance of 19,000,000,000,000 (nineteen trillion ) dollars. Please allow me to explain it in terms you will understand. Today I will give you a check for $1,000,000 (one million ). CONDITIONALLY!! The condition is you have to spend ALL of that today, so you can come back tomorrow and get another check for $1,000,000... which you HAVE to spend tomorrow... so you can come back the next day and we do it again... At the end of one year, you have spent 365 millions dollars.... At this rate it will take you OVER fifty-two THOUSAND YEARS to spend 19 trillion dollars... Jesus Christ was born just a smidgeon over 2 thousand years ago. So lets start there and go back another 50 thousand years. Look it up for yourself. All of this has been done right under our noses.... But only now do the people begin to smell a rat.. BUT!! At least now they can smell it now. Actually. I'm pretty good with numbers in my head... I didn't have to whip the calculator out till it was time to divide 19 trillion by 365 million. Fortunately Windows 8.1 comes with a calculator that counts into the hundreds of trillions. Have you spent the million dollars yet.... Better HURRY!!! You have a long row to hoe if Trump looses. Nobody can do it in four years.... Anyone that says they can, prolly has ocean front property in Montana to sell. It's WAY TOO LATE to get a fix in even eight years...
No, I haven't......but I sure would like to....are you sending it to me via bank wire? LOL | |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | komet. - 2015-08-06 12:39 PM
FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 11:30 AM
I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress?
If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me....
I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions
When he has to deal with congress, he will treat them like the spoiled children they are. Haul them to the woodshed and spank their a$$es. If he gets elected he will be the people's president and congress will either work with him or he will go to the people and they will vote them out onto the street in two years. This is the first step of a journey that is long overdue. He can be the catalyst we need to change our government. He WILL use some of the secrets that are held in DC to get things done.
Exactly cause nice word ain't got nothing done and neither has the GOP | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2015-08-07 1:22 PM
komet. - 2015-08-07 1:20 PM NJJ - 2015-08-07 1:04 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 12:51 PM NJJ - 2015-08-07 12:32 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 12:22 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 12:39 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 11:30 AM I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress? If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me.... I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions When he has to deal with congress, he will treat them like the spoiled children they are. Haul them to the woodshed and spank their a$$es. If he gets elected he will be the people's president and congress will either work with him or he will go to the people and they will vote them out onto the street in two years. This is the first step of a journey that is long overdue. He can be the catalyst we need to change our government. He WILL use some of the secrets that are held in DC to get things done. I believe the PEOPLE are beginning to understand the significance of 19,000,000,000,000 (nineteen trillion ) dollars. Please allow me to explain it in terms you will understand. Today I will give you a check for $1,000,000 (one million ). CONDITIONALLY!! The condition is you have to spend ALL of that today, so you can come back tomorrow and get another check for $1,000,000... which you HAVE to spend tomorrow... so you can come back the next day and we do it again... At the end of one year, you have spent 365 millions dollars.... At this rate it will take you OVER fifty-two THOUSAND YEARS to spend 19 trillion dollars... Jesus Christ was born just a smidgeon over 2 thousand years ago. So lets start there and go back another 50 thousand years. Look it up for yourself. All of this has been done right under our noses.... But only now do the people begin to smell a rat.. BUT!! At least now they can smell it now. Actually. I'm pretty good with numbers in my head... I didn't have to whip the calculator out till it was time to divide 19 trillion by 365 million. Fortunately Windows 8.1 comes with a calculator that counts into the hundreds of trillions. Have you spent the million dollars yet.... Better HURRY!!! You have a long row to hoe if Trump looses. Nobody can do it in four years.... Anyone that says they can, prolly has ocean front property in Montana to sell. It's WAY TOO LATE to get a fix in even eight years...
We'll need a cost annalist and.... and a detailed description of what you plan to spend it on... OH!!! We require an environmental impact statement too. I'm sure you will spend it on horses and we want to know what you plan to do with all those horse-apples. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2015-08-07 1:30 PM NJJ - 2015-08-07 1:22 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 1:20 PM NJJ - 2015-08-07 1:04 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 12:51 PM NJJ - 2015-08-07 12:32 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 12:22 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 12:39 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 11:30 AM I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress? If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me.... I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions When he has to deal with congress, he will treat them like the spoiled children they are. Haul them to the woodshed and spank their a$$es. If he gets elected he will be the people's president and congress will either work with him or he will go to the people and they will vote them out onto the street in two years. This is the first step of a journey that is long overdue. He can be the catalyst we need to change our government. He WILL use some of the secrets that are held in DC to get things done. I believe the PEOPLE are beginning to understand the significance of 19,000,000,000,000 (nineteen trillion ) dollars. Please allow me to explain it in terms you will understand. Today I will give you a check for $1,000,000 (one million ). CONDITIONALLY!! The condition is you have to spend ALL of that today, so you can come back tomorrow and get another check for $1,000,000... which you HAVE to spend tomorrow... so you can come back the next day and we do it again... At the end of one year, you have spent 365 millions dollars.... At this rate it will take you OVER fifty-two THOUSAND YEARS to spend 19 trillion dollars... Jesus Christ was born just a smidgeon over 2 thousand years ago. So lets start there and go back another 50 thousand years. Look it up for yourself. All of this has been done right under our noses.... But only now do the people begin to smell a rat.. BUT!! At least now they can smell it now. Actually. I'm pretty good with numbers in my head... I didn't have to whip the calculator out till it was time to divide 19 trillion by 365 million. Fortunately Windows 8.1 comes with a calculator that counts into the hundreds of trillions. Have you spent the million dollars yet.... Better HURRY!!! You have a long row to hoe if Trump looses. Nobody can do it in four years.... Anyone that says they can, prolly has ocean front property in Montana to sell. It's WAY TOO LATE to get a fix in even eight years... We'll need a cost annalist and.... and a detailed description of what you plan to spend it on... OH!!! We require an environmental impact statement too. I'm sure you will spend it on horses and we want to know what you plan to do with all those horse-apples.
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2015-08-07 12:32 PM
Bibliafarm - 2015-08-07 12:22 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 12:39 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 11:30 AM I want to know what his plans are... He is really good at telling everyone what is wrong but I have yet to hear solutions come out of his mouth. For instance, his answers to: Budget? - Cut spending; Social Security & Medicare? - Grow the economy; Illegals? - Build a wall(and make Mexico pay for it); Education? - common core is a disaster, Health Care System? - Disaster(obviously). How is he going to implement changes in these things?! He's always bought his way, bullied his way, or sued his way into getting what he wants. How's he going to deal with Congress? If anyone knows his answers to the questions above please tell me.... I have found some answers to things such as; How to defeat ISIS - Take the oil back(which would mean ground troops), China - charge tariff, Iran - Tougher sanctions When he has to deal with congress, he will treat them like the spoiled children they are. Haul them to the woodshed and spank their a$$es. If he gets elected he will be the people's president and congress will either work with him or he will go to the people and they will vote them out onto the street in two years. This is the first step of a journey that is long overdue. He can be the catalyst we need to change our government. He WILL use some of the secrets that are held in DC to get things done.
No. It boils down to HOW he/she did it and what they had to trade off. (politics as usual) If we get lucky, this kind of behavior will change. And THAT'S what we need!!!
It's time to do away with 'You suck me and I'll suck you " and stand up and do what needs to be done to dig us out of this hole. | |
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Bear - 2015-08-07 1:03 PM The vast majority of candidates have little to no "experience" in actual foreign policy experience, including senators, governors, and congressmen. The only candidate with real foreign policy experience is Hillary, and we know how well she's done in that area. That being said, Carly demonstrated a commanding mastery of the subject matter of all the subjects, including foreign policy. It sounds like she was absolutely flawless. Her foreign policy experience is in the private sector, but she sure sounds prepared. Over the last 40 years, we've only had one president with a lot of foreign policy experience, and that was Gerorge HW Bush. Even Reagan had zero foreign policy experience prior to taking office. Fiorina possesses all the key ideas and principles of a solid, sound, tough conservative. She's always impressed the hell out of me. I can't wait to see how she handles all the tricky, nasty, "unfair" questions that are headed her way...including personal questions and "gottcha" questions. People don't expect candidates to have a flawless record, nor to they expect them to be perfect....but they do expect honesty and resilience. Here's how I see it. Candidates need to be able to withstand a withering, probing, assault from the press. It's good to see how they handle the pressure, because that pressure is a walk in the park compared to the real pressures they will experience as president. I think it's meaningful to see how candidates handle "unfair" tough questions. Life isn't fair.
I really wish that I had watched the "pre" debates. She is sounding like she could rise up in the ranks and be in the next debate. I have seen some clips of her.
Here's a good one NJJ. http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/fiorina--questions-were-toug... | |
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Bear - 2015-08-07 1:03 PM The vast majority of candidates have little to no "experience" in actual foreign policy experience, including senators, governors, and congressmen. The only candidate with real foreign policy experience is Hillary, and we know how well she's done in that area. That being said, Carly demonstrated a commanding mastery of the subject matter of all the subjects, including foreign policy. It sounds like she was absolutely flawless. Her foreign policy experience is in the private sector, but she sure sounds prepared. Over the last 40 years, we've only had one president with a lot of foreign policy experience, and that was Gerorge HW Bush. Even Reagan had zero foreign policy experience prior to taking office. Fiorina possesses all the key ideas and principles of a solid, sound, tough conservative. She's always impressed the hell out of me. I can't wait to see how she handles all the tricky, nasty, "unfair" questions that are headed her way...including personal questions and "gottcha" questions. People don't expect candidates to have a flawless record, nor to they expect them to be perfect....but they do expect honesty and resilience. Here's how I see it. Candidates need to be able to withstand a withering, probing, assault from the press. It's good to see how they handle the pressure, because that pressure is a walk in the park compared to the real pressures they will experience as president. I think it's meaningful to see how candidates handle "unfair" tough questions. Life isn't fair.
I really wish that I had watched the "pre" debates. She is sounding like she could rise up in the ranks and be in the next debate. I have seen some clips of her.
Here's a good one NJJ. http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/fiorina--questions-were-toug...
Ya know what? SCREW foreign policy!! Just like Trump says, let them deal with their own crap! How many Frenchmen and Russians do you see defending our border with criminal Mexico? it's time we stopped policing the world and focused on things HERE!! How can we police the world when we can't even police our own border?!?!!
We can close all our borders and shut off the whole rest of the world and survive just fine.. There is NOTHING we NEED that we cannot produce ourselves.
She is still hung up on being politically correct. I would like to see her when she gets mad tho. I bet she could make some marks!! Edited by komet. 2015-08-07 3:21 PM
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| Bear - 2015-08-07 1:03 PM
The vast majority of candidates have little to no "experience" in actual foreign policy experience, including senators, governors, and congressmen.
The only candidate with real foreign policy experience is Hillary, and we know how well she's done in that area. That being said, Carly demonstrated a commanding mastery of the subject matter of all the subjects, including foreign policy. It sounds like she was absolutely flawless. Her foreign policy experience is in the private sector, but she sure sounds prepared.
Over the last 40 years, we've only had one president with a lot of foreign policy experience, and that was Gerorge HW Bush. Even Reagan had zero foreign policy experience prior to taking office.
Fiorina possesses all the key ideas and principles of a solid, sound, tough conservative. She's always impressed the hell out of me. I can't wait to see how she handles all the tricky, nasty, "unfair" questions that are headed her way...including personal questions and "gottcha" questions. People don't expect candidates to have a flawless record, nor to they expect them to be perfect....but they do expect honesty and resilience.
Here's how I see it. Candidates need to be able to withstand a withering, probing, assault from the press. It's good to see how they handle the pressure, because that pressure is a walk in the park compared to the real pressures they will experience as president. I think it's meaningful to see how candidates handle "unfair" tough questions. Life isn't fair.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | FlyingJT - 2015-08-07 2:54 PM NJJ - 2015-08-07 1:13 PM Bear - 2015-08-07 1:03 PM The vast majority of candidates have little to no "experience" in actual foreign policy experience, including senators, governors, and congressmen. The only candidate with real foreign policy experience is Hillary, and we know how well she's done in that area. That being said, Carly demonstrated a commanding mastery of the subject matter of all the subjects, including foreign policy. It sounds like she was absolutely flawless. Her foreign policy experience is in the private sector, but she sure sounds prepared. Over the last 40 years, we've only had one president with a lot of foreign policy experience, and that was Gerorge HW Bush. Even Reagan had zero foreign policy experience prior to taking office. Fiorina possesses all the key ideas and principles of a solid, sound, tough conservative. She's always impressed the hell out of me. I can't wait to see how she handles all the tricky, nasty, "unfair" questions that are headed her way...including personal questions and "gottcha" questions. People don't expect candidates to have a flawless record, nor to they expect them to be perfect....but they do expect honesty and resilience. Here's how I see it. Candidates need to be able to withstand a withering, probing, assault from the press. It's good to see how they handle the pressure, because that pressure is a walk in the park compared to the real pressures they will experience as president. I think it's meaningful to see how candidates handle "unfair" tough questions. Life isn't fair. I really wish that I had watched the "pre" debates. She is sounding like she could rise up in the ranks and be in the next debate. I have seen some clips of her. Here's a good one NJJ. http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/fiorina--questions-were-toug...
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | IB1UKNO - 2015-08-07 5:02 PM I continue to enjoy this circle jerk. Each of you pulling each other's pud and enjoying the cheers and screams of mass histeria, which you yourselves create just to perpetuate the jerk off. Never get tired of your incessant uninformed, uneducated dribble from which you each acknowledge the others stupidity. Please, carry on!
You have added so much to the discussion and sound so smaaaaaaart! Did you have to look up those words in the dictionary?  | |
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I continue to enjoy this circle jerk. Each of you pulling each other's pud and enjoying the cheers and screams of mass histeria, which you yourselves create just to perpetuate the jerk off. Never get tired of your incessant uninformed, uneducated dribble from which you each acknowledge the others stupidity. Please, carry on!
Boldly stated! It's been a long time since I've read something so informative and eloquent. Now that we've been admonished, please feel free to slither back under the rock from which you emerged. | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that. | |
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Location: Florida.. | komet. - 2015-08-08 5:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that.
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Location: So. California | komet. - 2015-08-08 2:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that.
I don't think Trump will get the nod. The RNC won't allow it, he is too unpredictable and just speaks his own mind, not the party line. He's his own man, and will not be owned by another...
Fox has replayed both debates. Watched the early debate today and Carly commanded the stage, was well prepared and just nailed every question with knowledge and class. All the others paled by comparison, they weren't even playing on the same field.
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komet. - 2015-08-08 2:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that.
I don't think Trump will get the nod. The RNC won't allow it, he is too unpredictable and just speaks his own mind, not the party line. He's his own man, and will not be owned by another...
Fox has replayed both debates. Watched the early debate today and Carly commanded the stage, was well prepared and just nailed every question with knowledge and class. All the others paled by comparison, they weren't even playing on the same field.
After watching both debates, right now, my pick would be a Rubio/Fiorina team.
When it comes down to it, I don't think he NEEDs the RNC. It might be easier that way. MIGHT be. He is not a straight line rethuglician thinker as he showed when he didn't rule out a single payer medical plan. There ARE democraps who will stand with him too. The RNC is having fits about his (accurate) comment about Kelly ragging on him from the start of the debate. People like her have been controlling the questions at events like this for decades and they think they can get away with anything. Not this time bieoch. Trump is willing to throw PC to the wind and say just exactly what he thinks about behavior like that. I find it to be quite refreshing. | |
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Location: So. California | komet. - 2015-08-08 8:58 PM Anniemae - 2015-08-08 10:24 PM komet. - 2015-08-08 2:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that. I don't think Trump will get the nod. The RNC won't allow it, he is too unpredictable and just speaks his own mind, not the party line. He's his own man, and will not be owned by another...
Fox has replayed both debates. Watched the early debate today and Carly commanded the stage, was well prepared and just nailed every question with knowledge and class. All the others paled by comparison, they weren't even playing on the same field.
After watching both debates, right now, my pick would be a Rubio/Fiorina team. When it comes down to it, I don't think he NEEDs the RNC. It might be easier that way. MIGHT be. He is not a straight line rethuglician thinker as he showed when he didn't rule out a single payer medical plan. There ARE democraps who will stand with him too. The RNC is having fits about his (accurate ) comment about Kelly ragging on him from the start of the debate. People like her have been controlling the questions at events like this for decades and they think they can get away with anything. Not this time bieoch. Trump is willing to throw PC to the wind and say just exactly what he thinks about behavior like that. I find it to be quite refreshing.
Agreed...
Politics is dirty business and you can bet the party machine will be cranking out BS/rumors/crap if Trump continues to rise in the polls. He has shaken up the political landscape and it has been interesting watching the others scramble to maintain a foothold, clawing to gain ground. Even the media has a love/hate relationship with Trump, doesn't matter the media affliation, all are fair game. Ultimately, the the Republican nominee will be a party line man....
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Anniemae - 2015-08-08 10:24 PM
komet. - 2015-08-08 2:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that.
I don't think Trump will get the nod. The RNC won't allow it, he is too unpredictable and just speaks his own mind, not the party line. He's his own man, and will not be owned by another...
Fox has replayed both debates. Watched the early debate today and Carly commanded the stage, was well prepared and just nailed every question with knowledge and class. All the others paled by comparison, they weren't even playing on the same field.
After watching both debates, right now, my pick would be a Rubio/Fiorina team.
When it comes down to it, I don't think he NEEDs the RNC. It might be easier that way. MIGHT be. He is not a straight line rethuglician thinker as he showed when he didn't rule out a single payer medical plan. There ARE democraps who will stand with him too. The RNC is having fits about his (accurate ) comment about Kelly ragging on him from the start of the debate. People like her have been controlling the questions at events like this for decades and they think they can get away with anything. Not this time bieoch. Trump is willing to throw PC to the wind and say just exactly what he thinks about behavior like that. I find it to be quite refreshing.
LOL......you are correct........even though I almost deleted it from my Ipad was Megyn Kelly's husband..book..... The Means......which I purchased due mostly in part from watching her and I respected her at the time......well just saying....it has way more truth to it than fiction..........Kelly by far went to any means to accomplish what the establishment wanted.....take Trump out..........and yes the book is somewhat based on her the media and politics......
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | CJE - 2015-08-09 12:07 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 11:58 PM Anniemae - 2015-08-08 10:24 PM komet. - 2015-08-08 2:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that. I don't think Trump will get the nod. The RNC won't allow it, he is too unpredictable and just speaks his own mind, not the party line. He's his own man, and will not be owned by another...
Fox has replayed both debates. Watched the early debate today and Carly commanded the stage, was well prepared and just nailed every question with knowledge and class. All the others paled by comparison, they weren't even playing on the same field.
After watching both debates, right now, my pick would be a Rubio/Fiorina team. When it comes down to it, I don't think he NEEDs the RNC. It might be easier that way. MIGHT be. He is not a straight line rethuglician thinker as he showed when he didn't rule out a single payer medical plan. There ARE democraps who will stand with him too. The RNC is having fits about his (accurate ) comment about Kelly ragging on him from the start of the debate. People like her have been controlling the questions at events like this for decades and they think they can get away with anything. Not this time bieoch. Trump is willing to throw PC to the wind and say just exactly what he thinks about behavior like that. I find it to be quite refreshing. LOL......you are correct........even though I almost deleted it from my Ipad was Megyn Kelly's husband..book..... The Means......which I purchased due mostly in part from watching her and I respected her at the time......well just saying....it has way more truth to it than fiction..........Kelly by far went to any means to accomplish what the establishment wanted.....take Trump out..........and yes the book is somewhat based on her the media and politics......
You know what.....if you think Megan Kelly was gunning for him, just WAIT.......it hasn't even started yet. He had better learn (and real fast) that if you are going to put your foot in your mouth, someone is going to make you chew it up and swallow it. What did he gain by snapping at her and making MORE rude comments....he showed that he acts like a bully and a "spoiled brat". | |
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CJE - 2015-08-09 12:07 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 11:58 PM Anniemae - 2015-08-08 10:24 PM komet. - 2015-08-08 2:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that. I don't think Trump will get the nod. The RNC won't allow it, he is too unpredictable and just speaks his own mind, not the party line. He's his own man, and will not be owned by another...
Fox has replayed both debates. Watched the early debate today and Carly commanded the stage, was well prepared and just nailed every question with knowledge and class. All the others paled by comparison, they weren't even playing on the same field.
After watching both debates, right now, my pick would be a Rubio/Fiorina team. When it comes down to it, I don't think he NEEDs the RNC. It might be easier that way. MIGHT be. He is not a straight line rethuglician thinker as he showed when he didn't rule out a single payer medical plan. There ARE democraps who will stand with him too. The RNC is having fits about his (accurate ) comment about Kelly ragging on him from the start of the debate. People like her have been controlling the questions at events like this for decades and they think they can get away with anything. Not this time bieoch. Trump is willing to throw PC to the wind and say just exactly what he thinks about behavior like that. I find it to be quite refreshing. LOL......you are correct........even though I almost deleted it from my Ipad was Megyn Kelly's husband..book..... The Means......which I purchased due mostly in part from watching her and I respected her at the time......well just saying....it has way more truth to it than fiction..........Kelly by far went to any means to accomplish what the establishment wanted.....take Trump out..........and yes the book is somewhat based on her the media and politics......
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CJE - 2015-08-09 12:07 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 11:58 PM Anniemae - 2015-08-08 10:24 PM komet. - 2015-08-08 2:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that. I don't think Trump will get the nod. The RNC won't allow it, he is too unpredictable and just speaks his own mind, not the party line. He's his own man, and will not be owned by another...
Fox has replayed both debates. Watched the early debate today and Carly commanded the stage, was well prepared and just nailed every question with knowledge and class. All the others paled by comparison, they weren't even playing on the same field.
After watching both debates, right now, my pick would be a Rubio/Fiorina team. When it comes down to it, I don't think he NEEDs the RNC. It might be easier that way. MIGHT be. He is not a straight line rethuglician thinker as he showed when he didn't rule out a single payer medical plan. There ARE democraps who will stand with him too. The RNC is having fits about his (accurate ) comment about Kelly ragging on him from the start of the debate. People like her have been controlling the questions at events like this for decades and they think they can get away with anything. Not this time bieoch. Trump is willing to throw PC to the wind and say just exactly what he thinks about behavior like that. I find it to be quite refreshing. LOL......you are correct........even though I almost deleted it from my Ipad was Megyn Kelly's husband..book..... The Means......which I purchased due mostly in part from watching her and I respected her at the time......well just saying....it has way more truth to it than fiction..........Kelly by far went to any means to accomplish what the establishment wanted.....take Trump out..........and yes the book is somewhat based on her the media and politics......
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | As far as the media goes, Megyn Kelly has been pretty consistently conservative. She can handle anything anyone throws at her. I like watching Trump and I like how he's stirring the pot, but I think what Kelly threw at him was fair game. Other candidates were given tough questions as well. As debates go, I think it was pretty well done, especially with 10 candidates.
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| Bear - 2015-08-09 12:41 PM
As far as the media goes, Megyn Kelly has been pretty consistently conservative. She can handle anything anyone throws at her. I like watching Trump and I like how he's stirring the pot, but I think what Kelly threw at him was fair game. Other candidates were given tough questions as well. As debates go, I think it was pretty well done, especially with 10 candidates.
We need some bare knuckles brawling, as far as I'm concerned. This is like spring training. The REAL season is a year away.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | CJE - 2015-08-09 12:41 PM NJJ - 2015-08-08 1:13 PM CJE - 2015-08-09 12:07 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 11:58 PM Anniemae - 2015-08-08 10:24 PM komet. - 2015-08-08 2:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that. I don't think Trump will get the nod. The RNC won't allow it, he is too unpredictable and just speaks his own mind, not the party line. He's his own man, and will not be owned by another...
Fox has replayed both debates. Watched the early debate today and Carly commanded the stage, was well prepared and just nailed every question with knowledge and class. All the others paled by comparison, they weren't even playing on the same field.
After watching both debates, right now, my pick would be a Rubio/Fiorina team. When it comes down to it, I don't think he NEEDs the RNC. It might be easier that way. MIGHT be. He is not a straight line rethuglician thinker as he showed when he didn't rule out a single payer medical plan. There ARE democraps who will stand with him too. The RNC is having fits about his (accurate ) comment about Kelly ragging on him from the start of the debate. People like her have been controlling the questions at events like this for decades and they think they can get away with anything. Not this time bieoch. Trump is willing to throw PC to the wind and say just exactly what he thinks about behavior like that. I find it to be quite refreshing. LOL......you are correct........even though I almost deleted it from my Ipad was Megyn Kelly's husband..book..... The Means......which I purchased due mostly in part from watching her and I respected her at the time......well just saying....it has way more truth to it than fiction..........Kelly by far went to any means to accomplish what the establishment wanted.....take Trump out..........and yes the book is somewhat based on her the media and politics...... I take it you don't like Trump...........lol........
I see him as a "spoiler". His "buffoon" tactics will overshadow the rest of the field. Eventually, he will get p*ffed off and run as a "third party" candidate and hand the Presidency to his "friend", Hillary, much like the third party candidate, Ross Perot, did for Bill.....JMO. | |
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Location: Florida | komet. - 2015-08-08 5:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that.
OMG, what world do you live in that you think that should or could happen? Trump has no use for women outside a bedroom. Do you really support that?
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Location: Broxton, Ga | NJJ - 2015-08-08 1:53 PM
CJE - 2015-08-09 12:41 PM NJJ - 2015-08-08 1:13 PM CJE - 2015-08-09 12:07 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 11:58 PM Anniemae - 2015-08-08 10:24 PM komet. - 2015-08-08 2:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that. I don't think Trump will get the nod. The RNC won't allow it, he is too unpredictable and just speaks his own mind, not the party line. He's his own man, and will not be owned by another...
Fox has replayed both debates. Watched the early debate today and Carly commanded the stage, was well prepared and just nailed every question with knowledge and class. All the others paled by comparison, they weren't even playing on the same field.
After watching both debates, right now, my pick would be a Rubio/Fiorina team. When it comes down to it, I don't think he NEEDs the RNC. It might be easier that way. MIGHT be. He is not a straight line rethuglician thinker as he showed when he didn't rule out a single payer medical plan. There ARE democraps who will stand with him too. The RNC is having fits about his (accurate ) comment about Kelly ragging on him from the start of the debate. People like her have been controlling the questions at events like this for decades and they think they can get away with anything. Not this time bieoch. Trump is willing to throw PC to the wind and say just exactly what he thinks about behavior like that. I find it to be quite refreshing. LOL......you are correct........even though I almost deleted it from my Ipad was Megyn Kelly's husband..book..... The Means......which I purchased due mostly in part from watching her and I respected her at the time......well just saying....it has way more truth to it than fiction..........Kelly by far went to any means to accomplish what the establishment wanted.....take Trump out..........and yes the book is somewhat based on her the media and politics...... I take it you don't like Trump...........lol........
Well a 3rd party sure didn't hurt the GOP last 2 elections..........they screwed that up all by themselves.......... | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I don't think Kelly hurt Trump very much at all. Her questions were things that have shown up on social media and now they have been answered. Trump acted like a big baby and his whining didn't help he a lot but again it also didn't hurt him.
The person that was hurt the most was Kelly. Her interview with Howard Stern from 5 years ago, sure doesn't do much for her image. | |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Eventually, he will get p*ffed off and run as a "third party" candidate and hand the Presidency to his "friend", Hillary, much like the third party candidate, Ross Perot, did for Bill.....JMO.
Well a 3rd party sure didn't hurt the GOP last 2 elections..........they screwed that up all by themselves..........
I found this........since I have always wondered........too did Perot cost Bush the election.......this appears to say not....some say it was those famous words "read my lips no new taxes".....
Now, let’s briefly consider the 1992 exit poll data and the actual composition of the Perot vote. According to the exit poll data, 38% of the Perot voters said they would have voted for Clinton in a two way race, 38% would have voted for Bush, 24% would not have voted. Perot won 30% of independents, 17% of Republicans, and 13% of Democrats. Put another way, of his 19% popular vote share, 8 percentage points came from independents, 6 from Republicans, and 5 from Democrats. Fully 53% of Perot’s vote came from self-defined moderates, 27% from conservatives and 20% from liberals; so about 10 points of his 19% came from self-described moderates, with 5 points coming from conservatives and 4 points from liberals. We also know from the exit polls that the Perot voters were angrier at the political system than supporters of the other candidates. Do these Perot supporters really look like voters that would have gone heavily to incumbent Bush in a two-candidate race?
It is just possible that Perot cost Bush a state here or there where Clinton squeezed out a very narrow plurality (Colorado, Montana, Ohio and Georgia come to mind as possibilities), but there is no empirical evidence that documents this that I am aware of. Even if true for all four states (a very unlikely probability), it merely reduces Clinton’s electoral vote majority from a near landslide to very comfortable.
http://www.pollingreport.com/hibbitts1202.htm
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I really don't believe it, because polls alone, in retrospect, do not tell the whole story. I remember the debates vividly. I remember Perot's infomercials vividly. Both Clinton and Perot campaigned aggressively against the status quo, so Bush had to defend against both. Clinton was elected with the smallest percentage of votes in modern history. It was very clear at the time that Perot's campaign was much more aligned against Bush than Clinton. I think Bush would have won if Perot hadn't run. At one point, Perot led both Clinton and Bush in the polls at on point in the summer of '92. | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Vickie - 2015-08-09 1:00 PM
komet. - 2015-08-08 5:27 AM Haters gonna hate. I got news for you. Trump is going to be the next president. And he will NOT forget all the major news agencies that dissed him along the way. He will be the one that decides who gets into the White House press room and who stands out in the street dipping out of the communal news trough/pool. This will be the first time in history that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TIME, Washington Post and a whole bunch of others will be standing out in the street dipping out of the "pool" because they spent so much time spreading bias and hate against Trump. You don't think he can and will do it... Just keep thinking that.
OMG, what world do you live in that you think that should or could happen? Trump has no use for women outside a bedroom. Do you really support that?
I don't know what his bedroom habits are, and don't care. I remember reading about women's suffrage and I lived through the women's liberation movement. You won!!! The last thing I want to hear is some woman whine and snivel when a man talks to her the same way he would to anther man. You wanted to be equal.. You got it!!! Trump was no more rude to her than he would have been to some man that got up in his face.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Bear - 2015-08-08 4:14 PM
I really don't believe it, because polls alone, in retrospect, do not tell the whole story. I remember the debates vividly. I remember Perot's infomercials vividly. Both Clinton and Perot campaigned aggressively against the status quo, so Bush had to defend against both. Clinton was elected with the smallest percentage of votes in modern history. It was very clear at the time that Perot's campaign was much more aligned against Bush than Clinton. I think Bush would have won if Perot hadn't run. At one point, Perot led both Clinton and Bush in the polls at on point in the summer of '92.
Read my lips no new taxes......the stats say otherwise.....but it is a great scare tactic I must admit. But choosing between the lesser of two evils has just bout sunk the ship.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Yep that "read my lips" pledge definitely hurt big time.
Still, exit polls have been glaringly wrong a number of times in recent years, both here as well as in Israel. Ask BeBe.
Google it.
The liberals have promoted the notion that Perot had no effect on the '92 election.....based on retrospective polling. | |
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