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      Location: The edge of no where | RFD's Randy Bernard Talks 2016 American Changes, 2015 Calf Roping Controversy Bernard talks about challenges and triumphs of the 2014 and 2015 American. Share on Facebook Share on Twitter RFD-TV announced Wednesday that the 2016 American will rock AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, Feb. 28, and we got a chance to speak candidly with CEO of RFD Events Randy Bernard about his plans for the third edition of the $2.5-million event and some controversy surrounding it in 2015. What has kept you from announcing the dates for the 2016 American until now?We wanted to make sure we had our title in place, and we wanted to make sure we had some new and exciting elements this year. We wanted to make sure we had those in place as well. With that in place, what have been your favorite highlights of the last two Americans?Paying out the money that we have. It’s great to see cowboys being treated as athletes and making the kind of money they deserve. I wish we could do four or five of these events. I love the fact that it’s in the greatest stadium in the world. The pressure we put on those guys is like a major sport. To me, I’ve put on over 3,500 events, this is my favorite event I’ve ever produced. It has everything. It has the greatest in the world, it has the underdogs, and there’s always going to be great storylines. We saw June Holeman, Justin McBride, Charmayne James, and last year we saw Chayni Chamberlain and Amberley Snyder fulfill their dreams. That’s what it’s about—creating role models and heroes and building on the sport. We have so much greatness in the Western lifestyle, it’s so fun to showcase these role models in our sport. Stories like Chayni Chamberlain and Amberley Snyder have definitely drawn national attention to rodeo. Can you give us some other examples of how The American has helped grow the sport of rodeo with outside sponsorship and outside fans?Our overall production budget is over $5.8 million— excluding what we have to pay Cowboy Stadium--so we’re putting $5.8 million into the Western economy. We’ve brought in non-endemic sponsors like Animal Health and Polaris. We introduced Polaris to the sport, and they were blown away with the response they got. Now they’re in the PRCA, which is great! I’m a huge believer that all boats rise on a high tide. It’s also created awareness in a lot of places. We’ve had people come from 49 different states the last two years. It’s not just 125-mile radius around the city of Dallas. It’s a national event. To me, that brings awareness up like what we did with the PBR. It really elevates it. And the fact that we create weekly shows on Wednesday on RFD, trying to create stars. My goal is that when Trevor Brazile walks down the street in Fort Worth or Dallas, people know who he is. You don’t do it by having him on TV one week out of every month. You have to have repetitious television and start creating and building your fan base. I’m not asking for him to walk down the street in New York, I just want him to walk down in Fort Worth. We’ve got a long way to go with the sport before we can get our superstars really prominent. Advertisement How have your numbers been in the team roping qualifiers? They’re about even from last year, but they pick up starting in September. What we’re doing is really waiting for the fall to make our strong push on events like we did the first year. Last year we had 4,000 entries, we’ll do more than that this year. About last year; at The American Finals, there were accusations of wrongdoing among some of the Final Four contestants in the calf roping. Have you had any resolution to that situation?No. What we’ve done is turned it over to the proper legal authorities and have asked them to address the issue. As far as I know, there’s still an investigation going on. Has there been any money awarded to the winners in that event yet? Nope, not in the calf roping. Will anybody be barred from competing as a result in 2016?That’s really hard. I never want to be a person who puts doubt in our own industry. If the proper authorities came back and said, “There is something here,” then we would have to address it. But until that time, my opinion is that we have to move forward until something is handed down. When you reference “proper authorities,” could you clarify who you mean?We put this out to several different law authorities, everyone from the FBI to the Texas Rangers to the Arlington Police Department. Have you received any updates from any of those agencies on their investigation?We’ve had some discussions with some, but at this point, until everything has been completed, it’s not fair to talk about it. What rulebook and procedural changes have you made for the coming year to keep those problems at bay?We have a plan, but we won’t announce it until October. But this is something we’ve sat down in many meetings to determine a plan that makes this the best for the fans and to make sure the event has the utmost integrity. - See more at: http://spintowinrodeo.com/article/rfds-randy-bernard-talks-2016-ame... |
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      Location: The edge of no where | 3canstorun - 2015-08-20 9:38 AM He didn't answer anything. All he did was "spin". Rumour mill has it that paperwork has been served to offending parties....................
So who knows what the real storey is.
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So who knows what the real storey is. I disagree, he acknowledged that there could've been illegal conduct and confirmed that the authorities are handling it. I'm not sure what else you could expect him to come out and say until the investigation is closed?
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| LRQHS - 2015-08-20 10:14 AM
Who were the final 4 and who won? I googled but it's taking too long and I figured you guys are better than google anyways...
Tie Down Roping: Preliminary Round: 1. Tuf Cooper, Decatur, Texas, 6.98 seconds; 2. Timber Moore, Aubrey, Texas, 7.12; 3. Reese Riemer, Stinnett, Texas, 7.25; 4. Cole Bailey, Okmulgee, Okla., 7.3.
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1. Reese Riemer, Stinnett, Texas, 7.59 seconds, $100,000 plus $500,000 bonus;
2. Tuf Cooper, Decatur, Texas, 8.38, $25,000.
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| Longneck - 2015-08-20 10:37 AM
I'm a complete novice about calf roping, so this is probably a dumb question... but would you really be able to slow yourself down for that little amount of time just to ensure you didn't win but also didn't make it blatantly obvious that you were slowing yourself down?
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      Location: Tulsa, Ok | rodeomom3 - 2015-08-20 9:50 AM MS2011 - 2015-08-20 9:43 AM 3canstorun - 2015-08-20 9:38 AM He didn't answer anything. All he did was "spin". Rumour mill has it that paperwork has been served to offending parties....................
So who knows what the real storey is. I disagree, he acknowledged that there could've been illegal conduct and confirmed that the authorities are handling it. I'm not sure what else you could expect him to come out and say until the investigation is closed? No longer just a rumor
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| rodeomom3 - 2015-08-20 8:41 AM
Wow, like I have said before, I understand the frustration of the pros not being eligible to share the pot of the million dollar prize money but what a shame for a few to try and play the system and potentially ruin a great thing for rodeo. I personally believe if wrong doing can be proven, those who participated should be barred. I hope the American continues to grow.
The pro's at the American compete at the NFR, Houston, Calgary and a lot of big money venues. Winning $50,000 at the American is still a chunk of change. They shouldn't get their panties wadded up and try to play the system by being greedy. I'm sorry but Tuf is fair from the choir boy everyone sees. He's a typical 20 some year old, good looking, rock star type kid. He does stupid things. |
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I'm a complete novice about calf roping, so this is probably a dumb question... but would you really be able to slow yourself down for that little amount of time just to ensure you didn't win but also didn't make it blatantly obvious that you were slowing yourself down?
Well and I feel like there would be no guarantee the qualifier would catch...?
I just also wonder how you would prove something like this? Espcecially if no money has been handed out. How would you know about the "plot" aside from hearsay? And then it is a he said, she said deal and could easily be a disgruntled compeititor.
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| SKM - 2015-08-20 10:56 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-08-20 8:41 AM Wow, like I have said before, I understand the frustration of the pros not being eligible to share the pot of the million dollar prize money but what a shame for a few to try and play the system and potentially ruin a great thing for rodeo. I personally believe if wrong doing can be proven, those who participated should be barred. I hope the American continues to grow. The pro's at the American compete at the NFR, Houston, Calgary and a lot of big money venues. Winning $50,000 at the American is still a chunk of change. They shouldn't get their panties wadded up and try to play the system by being greedy. I'm sorry but Tuf is fair from the choir boy everyone sees. He's a typical 20 some year old, good looking, rock star type kid. He does stupid things.
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| Longneck - 2015-08-20 10:37 AM
I'm a complete novice about calf roping, so this is probably a dumb question... but would you really be able to slow yourself down for that little amount of time just to ensure you didn't win but also didn't make it blatantly obvious that you were slowing yourself down?
Yes, you can. Tuf missed the barrier by a long shot and to top it off put two wraps on his calf. If he was at the NFR and missed the barrier like he did at the American he would have hustled through his run a lot faster than he did at the American. His dad, Roy, was commentating the calf roping and was very confused as to why Tuf did what he did in that run. |
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| miss_n_cinch13 - 2015-08-20 9:41 AM Longneck - 2015-08-20 10:37 AM I'm a complete novice about calf roping, so this is probably a dumb question... but would you really be able to slow yourself down for that little amount of time just to ensure you didn't win but also didn't make it blatantly obvious that you were slowing yourself down? Yes, you can. Tuf missed the barrier by a long shot and to top it off put two wraps on his calf. If he was at the NFR and missed the barrier like he did at the American he would have hustled through his run a lot faster than he did at the American. His dad, Roy, was commentating the calf roping and was very confused as to why Tuf did what he did in that run.
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        Location: left field | Tuf has run enough calves he knows exactly how to be 8.3. He was off the barrier, took an extra swing and an extra wrap. No one gunning for $100k does that. |
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      Location: The edge of no where | hammer_time - 2015-08-20 1:06 PM I missed ALL of this...:so lost!!!
Short story - it's been rumored that the calf roping was fixed. Some of the runs were very suspicious. Seemed fixed so that a wild card would win a chunk of the$1,000,000 and then it was going to be split with the top guys. There really seems to be something to the rumors for all the law enforcement agencies to be involved....idk what laws are involved, but it seems rather serious. There was a LOT of talk about people getting away with it. They do state that NO money has been paid out in the calf roping as of yet....it's getting addressed. |
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        Location: The Oklahoma plains. | SpaceCowboy - 2015-08-20 1:32 PM I have heard a lot from both sides and I know who I personally believe, but it is all just hearsay from outsiders and one man's word (who has been summonsed and refuses to lie for them under oath) against the other three. I don't know how they will ever prove if anything happened or not, but I wish they would decide, get the investigation over with and move forward. I hate for the negativity to fall on The American. It is such a great event.. I can just see the PRCA Commissioners snickering in the background... ugh.
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | Dinero10 - 2015-08-20 3:18 PM There are a few in that top 4 that are NOT what people perceive them to be....
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       Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | So if Tuf had won he would have won how much? $100k? His share of 1/2 a million would be $125k so I'm sorry but that is not that much more. I don't get it. How many split the million last year?
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      Location: West Texas | Well, this is very interesting, of course. So is all the controversy around just Tuf? Doesn't it take all of them to play the game? It would be hard to pull off, no doubt. However, it seems like a scheme someone might be involved in. How do you prove it? I see no way to. Even if I planned on it, how does someone say that I followed through.
As far as Tuf is concerned, the only thing that looks suspicious to me is the tie. He could have taken one wrap yes and that is certainly what many would have done. But simply not doing one wrap isn't proof in itself. In the video it looked like he two handed the tie, although incredibly fast. I cant think of very many good reasons why he would do that in this situation. There are a few, but not sure any of them apply.
As far as being off the barrier and taking an extra swing, that isn't much of a case to me.
I am on the fence for sure. It does look suspicious though, but 4 runs in a big event like the American, can go just like it did, without any conspiracy too. It would not surprise me one bit, if it was at least discussed.
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| Tdove - 2015-08-20 3:23 PM
Well, this is very interesting, of course. So is all the controversy around just Tuf? Doesn't it take all of them to play the game? It would be hard to pull off, no doubt. However, it seems like a scheme someone might be involved in. How do you prove it? I see no way to. Even if I planned on it, how does someone say that I followed through.
As far as Tuf is concerned, the only thing that looks suspicious to me is the tie. He could have taken one wrap yes and that is certainly what many would have done. But simply not doing one wrap isn't proof in itself. In the video it looked like he two handed the tie, although incredibly fast. I cant think of very many good reasons why he would do that in this situation. There are a few, but not sure any of them apply.
As far as being off the barrier and taking an extra swing, that isn't much of a case to me.
I am on the fence for sure. It does look suspicious though, but 4 runs in a big event like the American, can go just like it did, without any conspiracy too. It would not surprise me one bit, if it was at least discussed.
What you say makes a lot of sense, but after watching him and all the other ropers at the NFR and at other big rodeos, what he did was totally out of character. It also confounded his dad, too. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. |
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And after they went and "corrected" the steer wrestling and gave KC a third, it would have only been 333k to the calf ropers, split between the 3 of them would only be 111k. Of course they didn't know that until after the calf roping... and I guess it did guarantee them all a share, rather than just one. All this trouble for $11k difference? If they really did do it, I bet they are sure wishing they didn't.
Richmond Champion won the whole deal last year, 2014. Didn't have to split with anyone else (besides the IRS, haha). |
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       Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | SpaceCowboy - 2015-08-20 3:48 PM
mreklaw:
And after they went and "corrected" the steer wrestling and gave KC a third, it would have only been 333k to the calf ropers, split between the 3 of them would only be 111k. Of course they didn't know that until after the calf roping... and I guess it did guarantee them all a share, rather than just one. All this trouble for $11k difference? If they really did do it, I bet they are sure wishing they didn't.
Richmond Champion won the whole deal last year, 2014. Didn't have to split with anyone else (besides the IRS, haha).
But by the time they roped they would have already known that it was $500k so that doesn't seem like enuf to make them want to cheat. |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | mreklaw - 2015-08-20 4:04 PM SpaceCowboy - 2015-08-20 3:48 PM mreklaw: And after they went and "corrected" the steer wrestling and gave KC a third, it would have only been 333k to the calf ropers, split between the 3 of them would only be 111k. Of course they didn't know that until after the calf roping... and I guess it did guarantee them all a share, rather than just one. All this trouble for $11k difference? If they really did do it, I bet they are sure wishing they didn't. Richmond Champion won the whole deal last year, 2014. Didn't have to split with anyone else (besides the IRS, haha). But by the time they roped they would have already known that it was $500k so that doesn't seem like enuf to make them want to cheat.
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And after they went and "corrected" the steer wrestling and gave KC a third, it would have only been 333k to the calf ropers, split between the 3 of them would only be 111k. Of course they didn't know that until after the calf roping... and I guess it did guarantee them all a share, rather than just one. All this trouble for $11k difference? If they really did do it, I bet they are sure wishing they didn't.
Richmond Champion won the whole deal last year, 2014. Didn't have to split with anyone else (besides the IRS, haha).
But by the time they roped they would have already known that it was $500k so that doesn't seem like enuf to make them want to cheat.
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       Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | SKM - 2015-08-20 4:55 PM
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And after they went and "corrected" the steer wrestling and gave KC a third, it would have only been 333k to the calf ropers, split between the 3 of them would only be 111k. Of course they didn't know that until after the calf roping... and I guess it did guarantee them all a share, rather than just one. All this trouble for $11k difference? If they really did do it, I bet they are sure wishing they didn't.
Richmond Champion won the whole deal last year, 2014. Didn't have to split with anyone else (besides the IRS, haha).
But by the time they roped they would have already known that it was $500k so that doesn't seem like enuf to make them want to cheat.
You don't know that. They could have tried to seal the deal right after they learned the final 4 and before that last round even started.
This is true I'm just speculating like everyone else here is! I just like to hope for the best instead of the negative. I hate what it would say about our sport. I know there are bad apples in all sports. But I like the concept of innocent until proven guilty! Also, if Tuf is the rock star you say he is then I can't imagine his ego wanting to lose!
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     Location: Peach State | What would they have done had the "non pro" missed?, broken a barrier or calf got up? They didn't know the draw going into it so they couldn't make a real plan. And it would be a big gamble for the non pro he could ensure 111k but had he won out right it would have been 1/2 million (at that time) so seems to be like he wouldn't want to give that up
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Longneck - 2015-08-20 10:37 AM I'm a complete novice about calf roping, so this is probably a dumb question... but would you really be able to slow yourself down for that little amount of time just to ensure you didn't win but also didn't make it blatantly obvious that you were slowing yourself down?
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| RunninOnARooster - 2015-08-20 5:37 PM
What would they have done had the "non pro" missed?, broken a barrier or calf got up? They didn't know the draw going into it so they couldn't make a real plan. And it would be a big gamble for the non pro he could ensure 111k but had he won out right it would have been 1/2 million (at that time) so seems to be like he wouldn't want to give that up
It does seem suspicious for sure but too many moving parts for them to really think they could get away with cheating. Such a shame.
This was my thoughts exactly... seems like a big gamble. and wouldnt they only get about 83k because it would splt between the 4? |
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     Location: Texas | RunninOnARooster - 2015-08-20 5:37 PM What would they have done had the "non pro" missed?, broken a barrier or calf got up? They didn't know the draw going into it so they couldn't make a real plan. And it would be a big gamble for the non pro he could ensure 111k but had he won out right it would have been 1/2 million (at that time) so seems to be like he wouldn't want to give that up It does seem suspicious for sure but too many moving parts for them to really think they could get away with cheating. Such a shame.
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| jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 8:52 AM
If our rumor mill here in TX has a grain of truth to it NOT all 4 were in on it, one of the non pro ropers refused to go along with the deal. I have heard they have plenty of text messages prior to the finals to confirm there was going to throw the event in order for all the cowboys to get paid and the one was not going to go along with it. I personally think they should be banned from the American for life
I dont know why you would put that in writing/texts...dumb...
I just feel like that would be really hard to plan before The American because you never know who would be in the top 4... I dunno, I am interested to see how this all plays out because I feel like this is going to be a very difficult investigation. Were there 2 non-pros in the final 4? I only know a select few calf ropers. |
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       Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 8:52 AM
If our rumor mill here in TX has a grain of truth to it NOT all 4 were in on it, one of the non pro ropers refused to go along with the deal. I have heard they have plenty of text messages prior to the finals to confirm there was going to throw the event in order for all the cowboys to get paid and the one was not going to go along with it. I personally think they should be banned from the American for life
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| mreklaw - 2015-08-21 10:17 AM jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 8:52 AM If our rumor mill here in TX has a grain of truth to it NOT all 4 were in on it, one of the non pro ropers refused to go along with the deal. I have heard they have plenty of text messages prior to the finals to confirm there was going to throw the event in order for all the cowboys to get paid and the one was not going to go along with it. I personally think they should be banned from the American for life Then if there are texts you would think it would be a slam dunk case and already settled. I mean it's been awhile !
Unless they were more subtle and did not outright descibe their plan. IDK without concrete texts or facts how they can ever prove it, it seems to be a he said/he said situation. |
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| I agree SpaceCowboy I could not agree with you more I think all the final 4 are top notch ropers I used the term for a quick reference should have said qualifiers for the million and I really hate this situation its what made the American so GREAT to watch and compete. And am so proud of the ONE who said NO I will not be a part of this because someday I would have to explain this to my children. |
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| jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 10:46 AM I agree SpaceCowboy I could not agree with you more I think all the final 4 are top notch ropers I used the term for a quick reference should have said qualifiers for the million and I really hate this situation its what made the American so GREAT to watch and compete. And am so proud of the ONE who said NO I will not be a part of this because someday I would have to explain this to my children.
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    Location: That part of Texas | mreklaw - 2015-08-21 10:17 AM jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 8:52 AM If our rumor mill here in TX has a grain of truth to it NOT all 4 were in on it, one of the non pro ropers refused to go along with the deal. I have heard they have plenty of text messages prior to the finals to confirm there was going to throw the event in order for all the cowboys to get paid and the one was not going to go along with it. I personally think they should be banned from the American for life Then if there are texts you would think it would be a slam dunk case and already settled. I mean it's been awhile !
In a criminal investigation, it takes a long time to subpeona cell phone records and text messages. I'm not surprised at the timing. |
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      Location: The edge of no where | jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 10:46 AM I agree SpaceCowboy I could not agree with you more I think all the final 4 are top notch ropers I used the term for a quick reference should have said qualifiers for the million and I really hate this situation its what made the American so GREAT to watch and compete. And am so proud of the ONE who said NO I will not be a part of this because someday I would have to explain this to my children.
When you stop and think about it....it says a lot about his integrity. To be one of the wild cards and pressured by the big names and still stand your ground. There's some good guys out there. |
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| Has anyone taken the time to fact check Randy Bernard's statements? Just saying.... |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | run2run - 2015-08-22 10:47 AM Has anyone taken the time to fact check Randy Bernard's statements? Just saying....
What exactly should be "fact checked"? Would you care to enlighten us? |
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