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| I couldn't follow what he was saying.... he's going to ship them all off to slaughter just to spite those two lady's.... sounds like a winner! |
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| FlyingJT - 2015-08-21 11:57 AM I couldn't follow what he was saying.... he's going to ship them all off to slaughter just to spite those two lady's.... sounds like a winner!
I agree, makes no sense. Breeding for the track does create lots of throw away horses, one of the darker sides to the industry. Why let these 2 ladies dictate how you handle those who come through your barn, seems he is just proving their point. |
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| FlyingJT - 2015-08-21 11:57 AM I couldn't follow what he was saying.... he's going to ship them all off to slaughter just to spite those two lady's.... sounds like a winner! Yes its hard to understand his words, but in essesence..yes just for spite..and to cause everyone to lash out at the two women IMO. This guy and his brother are at the forefront of exportation to Mexico. He has trucks all over. He and his brother make a living soely on horses. I cant hate the guy for making a living, but his attempt at emotional blackmale is pretty shallow. ..and I dont believe for a minuet he cares about feeding people in Mexico. The ONLY reason he advertises horses to be purchased out of the pen is because he can make more than meat price on them.
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Location: Kansas | scwebster - 2015-08-21 12:10 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-21 11:57 AM I couldn't follow what he was saying.... he's going to ship them all off to slaughter just to spite those two lady's.... sounds like a winner! Yes its hard to understand his words, but in essesence..yes just for spite..and to cause everyone to lash out at the two women IMO. This guy and his brother are at the forefront of exportation to Mexico. He has trucks all over. He and his brother make a living soely on horses. I cant hate the guy for making a living, but his attempt at emotional blackmale is pretty shallow. ..and I dont believe for a minuet he cares about feeding people in Mexico. The ONLY reason he advertises horses to be purchased out of the pen is because he can make more than meat price on them.
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-08-21 12:33 PM scwebster - 2015-08-21 12:10 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-21 11:57 AM I couldn't follow what he was saying.... he's going to ship them all off to slaughter just to spite those two lady's.... sounds like a winner! Yes its hard to understand his words, but in essesence..yes just for spite..and to cause everyone to lash out at the two women IMO. This guy and his brother are at the forefront of exportation to Mexico. He has trucks all over. He and his brother make a living soely on horses. I cant hate the guy for making a living, but his attempt at emotional blackmale is pretty shallow. ..and I dont believe for a minuet he cares about feeding people in Mexico. The ONLY reason he advertises horses to be purchased out of the pen is because he can make more than meat price on them.
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| MS2011 - 2015-08-21 12:45 PM
I understand the need for slaughter, I really do.....but I will never believe anyone that truly loves horses is involved in the industry. They're in it only for profit and this guy is a POS.
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| MS2011 - 2015-08-21 12:45 PM
I understand the need for slaughter, I really do.....but I will never believe anyone that truly loves horses is involved in the industry. They're in it only for profit and this guy is a POS.
I wouldn't necessary say he's a POS because that's how he chooses to make his living... unfortunately there has to be someone that does it. We all want to say we don't oppose slaughter and we will drop a horse off at the sale barn if we deem the horse unsafe, unsound, etc. but then it's not necessary right of us to then demonize the person that actually ships them to the slaughter house. As far as his video goes..... he won't follow through, he can make twice the amount of money selling those horses to the bleeding hearts than loading them on a truck, and I highly doubt he'll pass that up.... His attempt at public shaming, or what ever it was he was attempting, was a complete FAIL! |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | FlyingJT - 2015-08-21 1:05 PM MS2011 - 2015-08-21 12:45 PM I understand the need for slaughter, I really do.....but I will never believe anyone that truly loves horses is involved in the industry. They're in it only for profit and this guy is a POS. I wouldn't necessary say he's a POS because that's how he chooses to make his living... unfortunately there has to be someone that does it. We all want to say we don't oppose slaughter and we will drop a horse off at the sale barn if we deem the horse unsafe, unsound, etc. but then it's not necessary right of us to then demonize the person that actually ships them to the slaughter house. As far as his video goes..... he won't follow through, he can make twice the amount of money selling those horses to the bleeding hearts than loading them on a truck, and I highly doubt he'll pass that up.... His attempt at public shaming, or what ever it was he was attempting, was a complete FAIL!
From what I've heard, he's been doing really well selling his "kill pen" horses. No way is he actually going to stop.
BTW, I agree it's not fair to demonize people who do the hard things that most of us don't want to have to think about, but are necessary nonetheless. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | What was happening is when a tattoed TB ended up in the kill pen, if they seemed sound and sane, they would be marketed online to anyone wishing to buy them for more than killer price. Now of course it sucks that they ended up in the kill pen, sometimes just days after thier last race, but the opportunity existed for the kill buyer to make a little extra and for someone to get an OTT TB cheap that otherwise may not have the racing connections to buy one.
Due to some of the TBs ending up badly injured btween the track and the kill pen and the uproar that followed, some people ended up researching the connections of the TBs in the kill pen using thier tattoo numbers. There were lots of trainers and owners getting harrassed and the tracks made new rules that any trainer caught selling or giving away horses that ultimately ended up in the kill pen would lose thier stalls at the track. Now of course none of this actually solves the problem of what to do with the horse when the owner tells the trainer to "get rid of him", there still are unwanted horses coming off the track (mostly TB) all the time.
The man on the video is just stating that he has a nice, seemingly sound, TB that he can no longer market to the public because of the actions of a few people. A horse that may have been purchased by an individual that would have given the horse a second chance and of course made a little extra $$$$ for the kill buyer, will now get on the truck straight to Mexico. I don't think he was being spiteful at all, racing is expensive and when the horses career is over they have to go somewhere, now many will go straight to Mexico thanks to some well meaning but misguided individuals. There is not near the market for OTT TBs as there is for OTT QHs, many times the trainer is lucky to be able to give them away and of course when they are given away lots of them end up at the sale barn or kill pen.
We have a TB broodmare in the pasture that was given to us, I need to get a picture of her, she is gorgeous, sound and so very athletic. It is such a waste and so sad but these women really did nothing to help the horses in the end.
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-21 1:23 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-21 1:05 PM MS2011 - 2015-08-21 12:45 PM I understand the need for slaughter, I really do.....but I will never believe anyone that truly loves horses is involved in the industry. They're in it only for profit and this guy is a POS. I wouldn't necessary say he's a POS because that's how he chooses to make his living... unfortunately there has to be someone that does it. We all want to say we don't oppose slaughter and we will drop a horse off at the sale barn if we deem the horse unsafe, unsound, etc. but then it's not necessary right of us to then demonize the person that actually ships them to the slaughter house. As far as his video goes..... he won't follow through, he can make twice the amount of money selling those horses to the bleeding hearts than loading them on a truck, and I highly doubt he'll pass that up.... His attempt at public shaming, or what ever it was he was attempting, was a complete FAIL!
BTW, I agree it's not fair to demonize people who do the hard things that most of us don't want to have to think about, but are necessary nonetheless.
No, he won't stop but if they are tattooed I bet they will go straight to Mexico unless he has a private buyer that he can trust not to look up the tattoo and report the connections to racetrack management. |
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| Barnmom - 2015-08-21 1:27 PM
What was happening is when a tattoed TB ended up in the kill pen, if they seemed sound and sane, they would be marketed online to anyone wishing to buy them for more than killer price. Now of course it sucks that they ended up in the kill pen, sometimes just days after thier last race, but the opportunity existed for the kill buyer to make a little extra and for someone to get an OTT TB cheap that otherwise may not have the racing connections to buy one.
Due to some of the TBs ending up badly injured btween the track and the kill pen and the uproar that followed, some people ended up researching the connections of the TBs in the kill pen using thier tattoo numbers. There were lots of trainers and owners getting harrassed and the tracks made new rules that any trainer caught selling or giving away horses that ultimately ended up in the kill pen would lose thier stalls at the track. Now of course none of this actually solves the problem of what to do with the horse when the owner tells the trainer to "get rid of him", there still are unwanted horses coming off the track (mostly TB) all the time.
The man on the video is just stating that he has a nice, seemingly sound, TB that he can no longer market to the public because of the actions of a few people. A horse that may have been purchased by an individual that would have given the horse a second chance and of course made a little extra $$$$ for the kill buyer, will now get on the truck straight to Mexico. I don't think he was being spiteful at all, racing is expensive and when the horses career is over they have to go somewhere, now many will go straight to Mexico thanks to some well meaning but misguided individuals. There is not near the market for OTT TBs as there is for OTT QHs, many times the trainer is lucky to be able to give them away and of course when they are given away lots of them end up at the sale barn or kill pen.
We have a TB broodmare in the pasture that was given to us, I need to get a picture of her, she is gorgeous, sound and so very athletic. It is such a waste and so sad but these women really did nothing to help the horses in the end.
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| I took it as he was ticked that the idividuals were trying to have a policy put in place that would slow down traffic to his facility. He clearly is upset in the video, and calls the idividuals by name stating "you did good girl". He also stated that he "would not" post OTTBs for sale by choice because of those individuals involvement. Not because he cant. I know people who know him personally. I feel he made this out of spite. To me, there would be no other reason to post it. I wouldnt have said anything about him otherwies, I guess I am just appauled at his attempt to cast a guilt trip on people/strong arm them. I mean, how mature does he sound (when you can actually understand him and between the constant use of the word "there"). I guess I feel like he could have made his point without acting the way he did.
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| I beleive other states have this in place also... I think Minnesota is one (I am ashamed I dont know). Where any OTTB caught in slaughter pens, their trainer or owner would be punished.
I think the video was immature and unprofessional. I already have a hard time with people who do this for a living but by making this video, you've proven to be as disgusting as I judged you to be. |
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Location: The edge of no where | scwebster - 2015-08-21 1:43 PM I took it as he was ticked that the idividuals were trying to have a policy put in place that would slow down traffic to his facility. He clearly is upset in the video, and calls the idividuals by name stating "you did good girl". He also stated that he "would not" post OTTBs for sale by choice because of those individuals involvement. Not because he cant. I know people who know him personally. I feel he made this out of spite. To me, there would be no other reason to post it. I wouldnt have said anything about him otherwies, I guess I am just appauled at his attempt to cast a guilt trip on people/strong arm them. I mean, how mature does he sound (when you can actually understand him and between the constant use of the word "there"). I guess I feel like he could have made his point without acting the way he did.
You said this far better than I did. I really do understand the need for slaughter, I just wish it were in the states so it could be regulated and done humanely. I'm not saying that everyone involved in the industry is a POS, but I will stand behind my statement that no one that can own/run a kill pen is really a horse lover. |
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Location: Northern CA | Barnmom - 2015-08-21 11:27 AM What was happening is when a tattoed TB ended up in the kill pen, if they seemed sound and sane, they would be marketed online to anyone wishing to buy them for more than killer price. Now of course it sucks that they ended up in the kill pen, sometimes just days after thier last race, but the opportunity existed for the kill buyer to make a little extra and for someone to get an OTT TB cheap that otherwise may not have the racing connections to buy one.
Due to some of the TBs ending up badly injured btween the track and the kill pen and the uproar that followed, some people ended up researching the connections of the TBs in the kill pen using thier tattoo numbers. There were lots of trainers and owners getting harrassed and the tracks made new rules that any trainer caught selling or giving away horses that ultimately ended up in the kill pen would lose thier stalls at the track. Now of course none of this actually solves the problem of what to do with the horse when the owner tells the trainer to "get rid of him", there still are unwanted horses coming off the track (mostly TB) all the time.
The man on the video is just stating that he has a nice, seemingly sound, TB that he can no longer market to the public because of the actions of a few people. A horse that may have been purchased by an individual that would have given the horse a second chance and of course made a little extra $$$$ for the kill buyer, will now get on the truck straight to Mexico. I don't think he was being spiteful at all, racing is expensive and when the horses career is over they have to go somewhere, now many will go straight to Mexico thanks to some well meaning but misguided individuals. There is not near the market for OTT TBs as there is for OTT QHs, many times the trainer is lucky to be able to give them away and of course when they are given away lots of them end up at the sale barn or kill pen.
We have a TB broodmare in the pasture that was given to us, I need to get a picture of her, she is gorgeous, sound and so very athletic. It is such a waste and so sad but these women really did nothing to help the horses in the end.
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Location: Northern CA | However, we all need to face the fact that many, many times the "do-gooders" and "activists" cause much more harm than they do good. |
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| halter_ego - 2015-08-21 2:44 PM
However, we all need to face the fact that many, many times the "do-gooders" and "activists" cause much more harm than they do good.
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Location: Lost in the swamps | halter_ego - 2015-08-21 2:44 PM
However, we all need to face the fact that many, many times the "do-gooders" and "activists" cause much more harm than they do good.
Agreed they can do more harm than good
Not only the ottb world but in the horse industry in general
There is a need for horses to be shipped. I have taken quite a few horses in. And have learned over the years you can only do what you can afford to do and sometimes you need to cut your losses
if they aren't able to be rehomed. I have personally never shipped one of my own.
I will put one down before that happens. But I have helped a friend who had no other choice
The horse was dangerious and he was posted for free with problem disclosed.
no one wanted him. And she was moving and could no longer take the horse so she sen him to the sale.
He had dumped every single person that's ever riden him off
Including almost killing one guy and fractured another guys pelvis.
For instance horses who are dangerious, injured beyond any medical repair I would love
to haul each and every horse I have come across to those activists homes and leave drop them in their front yards to feed water shelter, vet and training bills. I have rescued and moved quite a few and sometimes you just gotta know you have done what you could and can't save them all. AND not to mention the fact that I have seen more cases of starvation and neglect since they stopped shipping.
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Location: Arkansas | MS2011 - 2015-08-21 12:45 PM
I understand the need for slaughter, I really do.....but I will never believe anyone that truly loves horses is involved in the industry. They're in it only for profit and this guy is a POS.
This, 100 times over. We see his trucks go thru Lake Village all the time, crammed with horses. I always have to turn my head and try not to cry. As you said, it's hard to believe anyone who cares about horses at all can be doing what the Stanleys do. So many people who get down on their luck and have to sell their horses around here get a friendly visit from the Stanleys soon as the word gets out. . . (We were going to work one morning and one of their trucks was broken down on the side of the road. The trailer was empty thank goodness, and two men were sitting outside. Lord forgive me, but all I could think was that it simply could not have happened to better people.) |
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Location: North Dakota | FlyingJT - 2015-08-21 1:05 PM MS2011 - 2015-08-21 12:45 PM I understand the need for slaughter, I really do.....but I will never believe anyone that truly loves horses is involved in the industry. They're in it only for profit and this guy is a POS. I wouldn't necessary say he's a POS because that's how he chooses to make his living... unfortunately there has to be someone that does it. We all want to say we don't oppose slaughter and we will drop a horse off at the sale barn if we deem the horse unsafe, unsound, etc. but then it's not necessary right of us to then demonize the person that actually ships them to the slaughter house. As far as his video goes..... he won't follow through, he can make twice the amount of money selling those horses to the bleeding hearts than loading them on a truck, and I highly doubt he'll pass that up.... His attempt at public shaming, or what ever it was he was attempting, was a complete FAIL!
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Location: The edge of no where | FlyingJT - 2015-08-21 1:05 PM MS2011 - 2015-08-21 12:45 PM I understand the need for slaughter, I really do.....but I will never believe anyone that truly loves horses is involved in the industry. They're in it only for profit and this guy is a POS. I wouldn't necessary say he's a POS because that's how he chooses to make his living... unfortunately there has to be someone that does it. We all want to say we don't oppose slaughter and we will drop a horse off at the sale barn if we deem the horse unsafe, unsound, etc. but then it's not necessary right of us to then demonize the person that actually ships them to the slaughter house. As far as his video goes..... he won't follow through, he can make twice the amount of money selling those horses to the bleeding hearts than loading them on a truck, and I highly doubt he'll pass that up.... His attempt at public shaming, or what ever it was he was attempting, was a complete FAIL!
I can't do it... I'll put them down first (I've done it before and I'll do it again). I'd rather be out a few hundred than not be able to sleep at night. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | MS2011 - 2015-08-21 11:04 PM FlyingJT - 2015-08-21 1:05 PM MS2011 - 2015-08-21 12:45 PM I understand the need for slaughter, I really do.....but I will never believe anyone that truly loves horses is involved in the industry. They're in it only for profit and this guy is a POS. I wouldn't necessary say he's a POS because that's how he chooses to make his living... unfortunately there has to be someone that does it. We all want to say we don't oppose slaughter and we will drop a horse off at the sale barn if we deem the horse unsafe, unsound, etc. but then it's not necessary right of us to then demonize the person that actually ships them to the slaughter house. As far as his video goes..... he won't follow through, he can make twice the amount of money selling those horses to the bleeding hearts than loading them on a truck, and I highly doubt he'll pass that up.... His attempt at public shaming, or what ever it was he was attempting, was a complete FAIL!
Same here, I have always been lucky to live where I could just shoot them and drag them off to the back forty. Sometimes I feel bad that they don't get a proper burial but it is better than not knowing if they suffered on the tripto Mexico or not. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | It just looks like what he is doing doesn't HAVE to be done. It made me sad to think he will send nice horses to slaughter, without even offering them a chance at life. He is throwing a tantrum, callously sacrificing living animals because some people made him mad and just because he can. The horses are caught in the middle.
I know it is sometimes necessary. I'm not knocking slaughter, in general. And some people will say that it doesn't matter if a person has good intentions or not when they participate in it. That's another topic and I'm sure it could be argued for pages! I just hate it that people like that exist. Wish I could un-see it. |
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Location: Arkansas | Nita - 2015-08-22 6:35 AM
It just looks like what he is doing doesn't HAVE to be done. It made me sad to think he will send nice horses to slaughter, without even offering them a chance at life. He is throwing a tantrum, callously sacrificing living animals because some people made him mad and just because he can. The horses are caught in the middle.
I know it is sometimes necessary. I'm not knocking slaughter, in general. And some people will say that it doesn't matter if a person has good intentions or not when they participate in it. That's another topic and I'm sure it could be argued for pages! I just hate it that people like that exist. Wish I could un-see it.
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He's a very vengeful, vengeful man and although kill buyers are a neccessary evil, it's these horses that will lose in the end. Very sad. 
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Location: Oakdale, CA | Its an excellent video, if you watched all of it. People in other country's eat the horses they can't afford beef. Why would anyone be concerned about recyling horses instead of being buried in the ground.
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Location: Arkansas | got boost? - 2015-08-23 1:55 PM
Its an excellent video, if you watched all of it. People in other country's eat the horses they can't afford beef. Why would anyone be concerned about recyling horses instead of being buried in the ground.
slaughter is just like the septic pump guy! nobody likes doing the job but someone needs to do it!
Not nearly the same in my opinion---these are living, breathing, FEELING beings that deserve respect and compassion even at the end. This man has neither towards them. |
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got boost? - 2015-08-23 1:55 PM
Its an excellent video, if you watched all of it. People in other country's eat the horses they can't afford beef. Why would anyone be concerned about recyling horses instead of being buried in the ground.
slaughter is just like the septic pump guy! nobody likes doing the job but someone needs to do it!
Not nearly the same in my opinion---these are living, breathing, FEELING beings that deserve respect and compassion even at the end. This man has neither towards them.
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Look I understand what he is saying. The fact is race horses come through kill pen and there are activists that think they should be free, instead of being willing to buy them. They also go online and look up a horses connections and call and harass them, via email, phone call or what ever and threaten them and some even make death threats.
This guy is saying no more rehoming race horses and probably papered horses due to this harassment. I don't blame him. The fact is any horse you ever sell or give away could end up in the kill pen. How would you feel if one of yours did and then these "activists" start calling you up and making threats and then bad mouth you and try to bring down your business? What if that horse you sold had been through several owners. Even if you buy your horse out of the pen, the abuse contiues and the fact is there is no talking any logic to them. I've watched it time and time again. I don't blame him for his choice to not offer certain horses to the public.
ETA: his video may have only mentioned two ladies but it is really two ladies and thousands of internet followers.
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got boost? - 2015-08-23 1:55 PM
Its an excellent video, if you watched all of it. People in other country's eat the horses they can't afford beef. Why would anyone be concerned about recyling horses instead of being buried in the ground.
slaughter is just like the septic pump guy! nobody likes doing the job but someone needs to do it!
Not nearly the same in my opinion---these are living, breathing, FEELING beings that deserve respect and compassion even at the end. This man has neither towards them.
Seriously?
You must be a vegetarian then
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Location: Arkansas | cheryl makofka - 2015-08-23 9:50 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-08-23 3:33 PM
got boost? - 2015-08-23 1:55 PM
Its an excellent video, if you watched all of it. People in other country's eat the horses they can't afford beef. Why would anyone be concerned about recyling horses instead of being buried in the ground.
slaughter is just like the septic pump guy! nobody likes doing the job but someone needs to do it!
Not nearly the same in my opinion---these are living, breathing, FEELING beings that deserve respect and compassion even at the end. This man has neither towards them.
Seriously?
You must be a vegetarian then
Cows and pigs are living breathing feeling animals and far less objection over meat processing of these animals compared to horses
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Location: Florida.. | Chandler's Mom - 2015-08-23 10:57 PM cheryl makofka - 2015-08-23 9:50 PM Chandler's Mom - 2015-08-23 3:33 PM got boost? - 2015-08-23 1:55 PM Its an excellent video, if you watched all of it. People in other country's eat the horses they can't afford beef. Why would anyone be concerned about recyling horses instead of being buried in the ground.
slaughter is just like the septic pump guy! nobody likes doing the job but someone needs to do it! Not nearly the same in my opinion---these are living, breathing, FEELING beings that deserve respect and compassion even at the end. This man has neither towards them. Seriously? You must be a vegetarian then Cows and pigs are living breathing feeling animals and far less objection over meat processing of these animals compared to horses Seriously----I think everything deserves compassion and respect both in life and death.
I agree.. and do they ship pigs and cows alive that far and is it as brutal of a trip ? just wondering..
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Location: Arkansas | Bibliafarm - 2015-08-23 10:10 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-08-23 10:57 PM cheryl makofka - 2015-08-23 9:50 PM Chandler's Mom - 2015-08-23 3:33 PM got boost? - 2015-08-23 1:55 PM Its an excellent video, if you watched all of it. People in other country's eat the horses they can't afford beef. Why would anyone be concerned about recyling horses instead of being buried in the ground.
slaughter is just like the septic pump guy! nobody likes doing the job but someone needs to do it! Not nearly the same in my opinion---these are living, breathing, FEELING beings that deserve respect and compassion even at the end. This man has neither towards them. Seriously? You must be a vegetarian then Cows and pigs are living breathing feeling animals and far less objection over meat processing of these animals compared to horses Seriously----I think everything deserves compassion and respect both in life and death.
ALL living creatures should be treated humanely .. I am Pro Slaughter.. but it needs to be Humane and this man has no compassion .
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| got boost? - 2015-08-23 1:55 PM
Its an excellent video, if you watched all of it. People in other country's eat the horses they can't afford beef. Why would anyone be concerned about recyling horses instead of being buried in the ground.
slaughter is just like the septic pump guy! nobody likes doing the job but someone needs to do it!
From my understanding horse meat is more expensive? Maybe I am wrong or maybe it depends on the country but I had always read that horse meat was more expensive. |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | Temper tantrum on tape. But sadly some of these activists make things so much worse even though their hearts are in the right place. I have a cute yearling I got from this place. Hopefully she can be turned around and given a chance to have a life. This guy is a business man through and through. He makes more by selling these horses than shipping them down there, so I do wonder if he'll stand by his threat in the long term, but who knows, the small amount extra $ he'd make off of the TB's may not be worth the drama he gets from the activists. He's taking loads of them every week regardless of what's on board, sound, crippled, young, old, ponies, preg mares, and yes TB's...doesn't really matter to the shippers as long as they can make weight. But sadly, it is a business. I do hate the whole scenario though - wish they'd bring slaughter back to the states to at least mitigate some of the horrors. |
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Location: IN MY OWN LITTLE WORLD AT LEAST THEY KNOW ME HERE | Lol that dude is full of crap.
And yes times are hard in Mexico.
He's making a living. And not feeding those folks.
And mex is a by blow kill station to get the meat to Europe.
Now there are kill pen sale sites on fb.
We aren't going to stop the kill buyers.
It's just a shame we didn't have the descency to set up proper laws and strict guidelines here in the good old USA so these poor animals didn't have to get drug across the country for hours and hours and day upon day on a trailer to a foreign country to be killed without the laws n guidelines.
So this says a lot for the powers at be.
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Anyone see this video? Bastrop, La kill pen