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Location: Paducah, Ky | I recently purchased a filly that is futurity eligible. I do not know the first thing about it. I'm not sure where to even start asking questions? What are the major benefits of participating? |
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| To be honest, it depends on what futurity she is nominated for .... most have really infomative websites and rules posted ...
Perhaps if you give us a little more information, someone familiar with or who has run at that futurity can give you the lowdown. |
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Location: NE Texas | sosfly - 2015-08-23 9:55 PM I recently purchased a filly that is futurity eligible. I do not know the first thing about it. I'm not sure where to even start asking questions? What are the major benefits of participating?
Marne Loosenort is in your area and she may be willing to point you in the right direction. You'll need to find the payment schedules for each futurity you're interested in nominating for. And don't enter your horse until after December 1 in order to keep it futurity eligible.
I love the futurities, but don't get to go much anymore due to my job. Most of the bigger futurities require you to be there almost the entire week, and it's just no possible with a full time job, unfortunately. I sure do miss them though!
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| Being futurity eligible and being nominated to a futurity are two different things. How old is the horse? Right now everything depends on age. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | Its very confusing!!! |
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| I am seeking a prospect and being futurity eligible does nothing for me because I dont know how it works!  |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | It depends on where you live and how far you're willing to travel to futurities. Most of them in the south and east are for 4 and under. Most of them in the north and west are 5 and under. How old is the horse now? |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | Is it their age as of Jan 1st or since the BFA is in Dec is it based on the age of the horse when the BFA starts? |
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Location: NE Texas | soonergirl98 - 2015-08-24 3:41 PM Is it their age as of Jan 1st or since the BFA is in Dec is it based on the age of the horse when the BFA starts?
It's the age as of Jan 1 of the year they will be competing. If a horse is a 4 YO now and you want to run them in futurities as a 5 YO, then you cannot enter until after Dec. 1 of this year. If a horse is a 3 YO now and you want to run them in futurities as a 4 YO, then you cannot enter until after Dec. 1 of this year. If you horse is a 5 YO now and still futurity eligible, then you need to get to entering some futurities because after this year they are no longer eligible. |
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Location: Texas | The major benefits is the payout. How old is the horse right now? |
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Location: Paducah, Ky | She is two years old now will be three in March. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | That's what I thought Herbie but I start reading the different futurity websites and I get all confused. lol. Thank you! |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | sosfly - 2015-08-25 7:11 AM She is two years old now will be three in March.
For the purposes of showing and any organized high end competition all horses turn the next year older on January 1 no matter when their actual birthday is.
That said, you have this year and next year until Dec 1 (or your first futurity) to get her trained for barrels and up to competition speed IF you are going to futurity as a 4 year old. If you're looking at 5 year old futurities, add a year to that timeline. |
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| If you feel that the horse is futurity material, you need to have someone who rides futurity horses evaluate the horse with an HONEST opinion. Entry fees are not cheap and have to be paid far in advance. I sent one horse to a trainer and she told me to get rid of the horse. I appreciate the honesty myself. Same trainer has one now and she says this one is good enough to futurity. I have been saving my money for entry fees. The main thing that you need to remember is that the horse must not be entered in any BARREL races until Dec 1 of their 3 year. If running in 5 year you cannot run before Dec of their 4 year old year. |
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| this includes not running at any playdays/gymkhana, etc! Also, get yourself in shape! I am also an amateur wanting to do the futurites with my colt in 2017...someone at my office who has won several back in the day said that they are too competitive (and expensive) to just be casual about it. Get your horse and yourself in gear and have someone help and evaluate you as a pair or find a a jockey. |
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Location: Weatherford, TX | streakysox - 2015-08-25 12:55 PM If you feel that the horse is futurity material, you need to have someone who rides futurity horses evaluate the horse with an HONEST opinion. Entry fees are not cheap and have to be paid far in advance. I sent one horse to a trainer and she told me to get rid of the horse. I appreciate the honesty myself. Same trainer has one now and she says this one is good enough to futurity. I have been saving my money for entry fees. The main thing that you need to remember is that the horse must not be entered in any BARREL races until Dec 1 of their 3 year. If running in 5 year you cannot run before Dec of their 4 year old year.
Ditto! She needs to be running solid in December 2016. 'Solid' meaning running very close to really good open 'national' times. Futurities are very tough, expensive and time consuming. They are fun though. We run them and great open horses. I just love watching the 'babies' advance. :) |
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| Not stealing this thread... but I am interested in futurity-ing my now 3 yo as a 5 yo. Anyone in southeast texas (near houston) that I could contact for some tips/advice? |
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Location: Texas | If you watch my Facebook I post futurity deadlines. It's actually Dec 1 they turn the next years age. My 4yr old futurity horses are 3 right now. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | mollibtexan - 2015-08-25 9:18 PM If you watch my Facebook I post futurity deadlines. It's actually Dec 1 they turn the next years age. My 4yr old futurity horses are 3 right now.
It's January 1st when they are considered a year older. This is so in all AQHA approved events and most other registries. Dec 1 date to begin competing is only in barrel futurities, not the horse's age. |
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Location: Midwest | OregonBR - 2015-08-26 12:03 AM mollibtexan - 2015-08-25 9:18 PM If you watch my Facebook I post futurity deadlines. It's actually Dec 1 they turn the next years age. My 4yr old futurity horses are 3 right now. It's January 1st when they are considered a year older. This is so in all AQHA approved events and most other registries. Dec 1 date to begin competing is only in barrel futurities, not the horse's age.
I think you guys are saying the same thing in different ways |
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does anyone have a list of MUST do futurities for riders on the west coast? |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | barrelracr131 - 2015-08-26 5:28 AM OregonBR - 2015-08-26 12:03 AM mollibtexan - 2015-08-25 9:18 PM If you watch my Facebook I post futurity deadlines. It's actually Dec 1 they turn the next years age. My 4yr old futurity horses are 3 right now. It's January 1st when they are considered a year older. This is so in all AQHA approved events and most other registries. Dec 1 date to begin competing is only in barrel futurities, not the horse's age.
I read it that they said the horse turns a year older on Dec 1. Not so. Being able to start competing on your futurity horse on or after Dec 1 has nothing to do with their age on Jan 1. It's an arbitrary rule for the barrel futurity industry only. AQHA nor any of the other disciplines have that rule. That's what I'm saying. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | kwanatha - 2015-08-26 6:24 AM
does anyone have a list of MUST do futurities for riders on the west coast?
The BRN4D website has a list of their approvals and co-approvals. There must be a place with an event list somewhere. BHN used to list them as well. |
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| OregonBR - 2015-08-26 10:41 AM
kwanatha - 2015-08-26 6:24 AM
does anyone have a list of MUST do futurities for riders on the west coast?
The BRN4D website has a list of their approvals and co-approvals. There must be a place with an event list somewhere. BHN used to list them as well.
Make a list of the futurities that you are interested in. Barrel Horse News usually has futurity advertisements in it way before the entry fees are due. Some futurity payments are not all due at one time. Some have three ,four or six payments. Get a calendar and mark the dates of the futurities that you are interested in and dates the entry fees are due. The futurities at Buckeye AZ are the first ones of the year---the first few weeks in January. The first part of the entry fee is due in October. This is about as far west as we are planning to go so I do not know what futurities are in CA. There are several in the Northwest. One thing that I will say is that your horse better be going very well BEFORE you start paying the entry fees. Make sure that you pay them on time because there are late fees. Make sure that you follow each futurity"s rules. |
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Location: Texas | OregonBR - 2015-08-26 10:39 AM
barrelracr131 - 2015-08-26 5:28 AM OregonBR - 2015-08-26 12:03 AM mollibtexan - 2015-08-25 9:18 PM If you watch my Facebook I post futurity deadlines. It's actually Dec 1 they turn the next years age. My 4yr old futurity horses are 3 right now. It's January 1st when they are considered a year older. This is so in all AQHA approved events and most other registries. Dec 1 date to begin competing is only in barrel futurities, not the horse's age.
Y'all get your panties in a wad way to easy. We compete on our coming 4yr olds in December....so they are actually 3yrs old. Geez you just try to help on here and everyone has always got to be "right". All I'm saying is you can complete on a futurity horse after December 1 not January 1. I go to BFA in December, AZ Futurities in January Classic Equine---Greg Olsen----PAC West, , LG Pro Classic February, Diamonds and Dirt March, April BBR OKC, May Ft Smith, Twin Lakes Fairfield, July NE Futurities, there are a lot up north in July and August, Jud Little Sept, November JB Quarter horses, December BFA Futurity if the horse is 4 only if you Futurities as a 5 yr old you have to run in Derby. |
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| streakysox - 2015-08-26 10:23 AM
OregonBR - 2015-08-26 10:41 AM
kwanatha - 2015-08-26 6:24 AM
does anyone have a list of MUST do futurities for riders on the west coast?
The BRN4D website has a list of their approvals and co-approvals. There must be a place with an event list somewhere. BHN used to list them as well.
Make a list of the futurities that you are interested in. Barrel Horse News usually has futurity advertisements in it way before the entry fees are due. Some futurity payments are not all due at one time. Some have three ,four or six payments. Get a calendar and mark the dates of the futurities that you are interested in and dates the entry fees are due. The futurities at Buckeye AZ are the first ones of the year---the first few weeks in January. The first part of the entry fee is due in October. This is about as far west as we are planning to go so I do not know what futurities are in CA. There are several in the Northwest. One thing that I will say is that your horse better be going very well BEFORE you start paying the entry fees. Make sure that you pay them on time because there are late fees. Make sure that you follow each futurity"s rules.
The Classic Equine is January 6-7 and the Greg Olsen is the next weekend. We are going to attend this one just to watch and see what I should be doing with my horse. There is another one in California in March or April (I think.) I want to say it is in Linwood (Riverside or San Bernardino County) or somewhere. Sorry...I am going off my brain right now and apparently it's fried from work. |
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Location: Texas | mollibtexan - 2015-08-26 4:29 PM
OregonBR - 2015-08-26 10:39 AM
barrelracr131 - 2015-08-26 5:28 AM OregonBR - 2015-08-26 12:03 AM mollibtexan - 2015-08-25 9:18 PM If you watch my Facebook I post futurity deadlines. It's actually Dec 1 they turn the next years age. My 4yr old futurity horses are 3 right now. It's January 1st when they are considered a year older. This is so in all AQHA approved events and most other registries. Dec 1 date to begin competing is only in barrel futurities, not the horse's age.
Y'all get your panties in a wad way to easy. We compete on our coming 4yr olds in December....so they are actually 3yrs old. Geez you just try to help on here and everyone has always got to be "right". All I'm saying is you can complete on a futurity horse after December 1 not January 1. I go to BFA in December, AZ Futurities in January Classic Equine---Greg Olsen----PAC West, , LG Pro Classic February, Diamonds and Dirt March, April BBR OKC, May Ft Smith, Twin Lakes Fairfield, July NE Futurities, there are a lot up north in July and August, Jud Little Sept, November JB Quarter horses, December BFA Futurity if the horse is 4 only if you Futurities as a 5 yr old you have to run in Derby.
And another thing she said futurity for dummies not registry for dummies |
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| Mollie is correct. All AQHA, APHA, Palomino registry, Buckskin registry, Jockey Club and most other registries consider a horse to be 3 or 4 or any age JANUARY 1. The date that you can start COMPETEING on a 3 year old is DECEMBER 1 of their 3 year old year. I think the main reason for using this date for futurity horses is so they can compete in the JUVENILE at the BFA in Oklahoma City in early December. After that they can compete in any barrel race in preparation for the spring futurities. By the way, the horses that run in the JUVENILE are ready to run 1D times in any competition or they should be. What I am saying is that you better do your homework. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Have y'all seen thefuturity.com? Really great online magazine with most of the major events put in a calendar and advertised. It even shows geographical location and whether the futurity is for 4 year olds or 5 year olds. Has a bunch of good stallion advertisements too. I used it to get an initial list for when my girl is five.
http://www.thefuturity.com/ |
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Location: Midwest | OregonBR - 2015-08-26 10:39 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-08-26 5:28 AM OregonBR - 2015-08-26 12:03 AM mollibtexan - 2015-08-25 9:18 PM If you watch my Facebook I post futurity deadlines. It's actually Dec 1 they turn the next years age. My 4yr old futurity horses are 3 right now. It's January 1st when they are considered a year older. This is so in all AQHA approved events and most other registries. Dec 1 date to begin competing is only in barrel futurities, not the horse's age.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | mollibtexan - 2015-08-26 2:29 PM OregonBR - 2015-08-26 10:39 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-08-26 5:28 AM OregonBR - 2015-08-26 12:03 AM mollibtexan - 2015-08-25 9:18 PM If you watch my Facebook I post futurity deadlines. It's actually Dec 1 they turn the next years age. My 4yr old futurity horses are 3 right now. It's January 1st when they are considered a year older. This is so in all AQHA approved events and most other registries. Dec 1 date to begin competing is only in barrel futurities, not the horse's age. Y'all get your panties in a wad way to easy. We compete on our coming 4yr olds in December....so they are actually 3yrs old. Geez you just try to help on here and everyone has always got to be "right". All I'm saying is you can complete on a futurity horse after December 1 not January 1. I go to BFA in December, AZ Futurities in January Classic Equine---Greg Olsen----PAC West, , LG Pro Classic February, Diamonds and Dirt March, April BBR OKC, May Ft Smith, Twin Lakes Fairfield, July NE Futurities, there are a lot up north in July and August, Jud Little Sept, November JB Quarter horses, December BFA Futurity if the horse is 4 only if you Futurities as a 5 yr old you have to run in Derby. 
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