rachellyn80 - 2015-08-26 3:10 PM  There are many different types of feed under the Bluebonnet label. To say that your horse wouldn't eat it is very short sighted.



We've been very pleased with the Intensify line and are feeding our yearlings the Intensify Growth feed.  Now that my horses are all on Omnis Complete Performance cubes I have my old horses on Intensify Omega Force as extra calories rather than the high fiber Senior feed that they were on before.  Omega Force is fed at a much lower recommended rate and is very high in calories, but still a soft pellet that my old horses can eat it.

hoofs_in_motion - 2015-08-26 3:18 PM How much of it are you having to feed? 

rachellyn80 - 2015-08-26 4:24 PM We don't feed over 4# a day of the Omega Force.

streakysox - 2015-08-26 2:50 PM

My horses would not eat it and my farrier said the same thing

hoofs_in_motion - 2015-08-26 4:48 PM


Is that with horses in a medium/heavy workload? Just curious as I'm going to start feeding it. 

rachellyn80 - 2015-08-26 3:10 PM

 There are many different types of feed under the Bluebonnet label. To say that your horse wouldn't eat it is very short sighted.

We've been very pleased with the Intensify line and are feeding our yearlings the Intensify Growth feed.  Now that my horses are all on Omnis Complete Performance cubes I have my old horses on Intensify Omega Force as extra calories rather than the high fiber Senior feed that they were on before.  Omega Force is fed at a much lower recommended rate and is very high in calories, but still a soft pellet that my old horses can eat it.

Herbie - 2015-08-27 9:18 AM

It is a very concentrated feed.  I fed it for a few months before finding Cur-Ost and changing over to whole oats.  I was feeding at least 4 lbs daily (split into 2 servings of course) and am now down to one pound of whole oats once daily to mix in my Cur-Ost, and my horse looks better than ever.   Through this process, I have learned that healing the hind gut will allow for better nutrient absorption so that the horse is actually able to utilize what we're feeding them.  My concern with most commercial feeds are the synthetic ingredients (vitamins/minerals) added to balance the ration.  This is something I have learned over the process of the last several months as well.  Through research, it is proven that synthetics actually contribute to leaky gut syndrome and hind gut issues. 

 

winwillows - 2015-08-27 8:20 AM


Cut-Ost and one pound of Renew Gold, check teeth and you are good to go. No synthetic added ingredients. Very potent antioxidant support and upper GI tract help from coconut. We have a lot of horses going to this.

FLITASTIC - 2015-08-27 10:44 AM


Unfortunately Herbie and I had the same experience with Renew Gold. Just didnt work for us, but sure wish it had! My horses as well are on just very small amount of oats and curost and they look a million times better than they ever have on any feed with very little of anything other than good hay.

FLITASTIC - 2015-08-27 10:44 AM


Unfortunately Herbie and I had the same experience with Renew Gold. Just didnt work for us, but sure wish it had! My horses as well are on just very small amount of oats and curost and they look a million times better than they ever have on any feed with very little of anything other than good hay.

winwillows - 2015-08-27 11:43 AM You are right about good hay, or good hay support in the form of a cube like Cur-Ost and, more importantly, the horses ability to digest it. As we have discussed a number of times, there was something else going on with your horses and the shedding problem that you had at the time. We have not had that issue with Renew Gold in any other horses, ever, over four years and half a million bags fed. The fact that you had several horses that had the issue at the same time clearly points to something else going on at that time. There is no way to get anywhere near the nutritional support from a pound of oats that you get from a pound of the all natural ingredients used to make Renew Gold because of the higher digestible energy and the way it fits the horses digestive system. Now, I have nothing against oats at a small rate like that, and I use them in some of the diets that we do. My point was simply that boosting the base roughage quality with a very high quality cube in a horse that has proper mouth condition to comfortably chew them and their long hay, if used, along with RG fits the way a horse works inside. If your diet needs more than the recommended amount of renew gold to maintain condition and energy, there is either a lack of roughage quality, amount, or ability to digest it. Those issues are usually pretty easy to identify and fix. A cube like the Cur-Ost product can be a great way to address that, and I was simply saying that a lot of customers are using that combination and having a very positive result. The answer is never more and more Renew Gold. The answer is better natural use of the roughage part of the diet.

winwillows - 2015-08-27 11:43 AM You are right about good hay, or good hay support in the form of a cube like Cur-Ost and, more importantly, the horses ability to digest it. As we have discussed a number of times, there was something else going on with your horses and the shedding problem that you had at the time. We have not had that issue with Renew Gold in any other horses, ever, over four years and half a million bags fed. The fact that you had several horses that had the issue at the same time clearly points to something else going on at that time. There is no way to get anywhere near the nutritional support from a pound of oats that you get from a pound of the all natural ingredients used to make Renew Gold because of the higher digestible energy and the way it fits the horses digestive system. Now, I have nothing against oats at a small rate like that, and I use them in some of the diets that we do. My point was simply that boosting the base roughage quality with a very high quality cube in a horse that has proper mouth condition to comfortably chew them and their long hay, if used, along with RG fits the way a horse works inside. If your diet needs more than the recommended amount of renew gold to maintain condition and energy, there is either a lack of roughage quality, amount, or ability to digest it. Those issues are usually pretty easy to identify and fix. A cube like the Cur-Ost product can be a great way to address that, and I was simply saying that a lot of customers are using that combination and having a very positive result. The answer is never more and more Renew Gold. The answer is better natural use of the roughage part of the diet.

SG. - 2015-08-27 1:36 PM


I thought this was about Blue Bonnet?

 

Sandok - 2015-08-27 2:22 PM Is Cur-Ost a cube?

readytorodeo - 2015-08-27 4:13 PM  I was using Renew gold too.  My mate coliced twice in a month on it.  I was doing what was re commended .  So it was that.  I switched to BlueBonnet ExFactor.  My mare is looking great.  I also feed Cur Ost Complete.  And Faldo hay.  

rachellyn80 - 2015-08-28 6:28 AM


What you just wrote makes no sense in so many ways.  There's nothing in Renew Gold that would make a horse colic.  Bluebonnet Ex-Factor is a good feed, but there is no "Cur-Ost Complete".  

Were you feeding Cur-Ost before or after you switched to the BB feed?  There are a lot of horses that wouldn't do well on Renew Gold simply due to the fact that their gut isn't functioning properly.  That's where the Cur-Ost comes in....once you get them utilizing the nutrition you're giving them they can do well on just about anything. 

FLITASTIC - 2015-08-28 9:27 AM The words may not have been written correctly but I know what this person meant. BOTH my horses coliced same day in 2009 on Renew Gold. I was told I was the only one in the history of RG after (xxxxxx) bags sold to ever have this problem. Looks like I wasnt the only one. I am sure the person meant Cur Ost total care, or the one that has everything in it, even if they didnt get the name correctly. But I know what they meant and had very similar experiences...

barrelracr131 - 2015-08-28 9:33 AM


I think she meant this one: https://www.nouvelleresearch.com/index.php/products/equine-formulas/cur-ost-eq-total-support

Sandok - 2015-08-28 9:55 AM But she kept calling it a "cube". That is what got me confused. But this post should be about Bluebonnet.

want2chase3 - 2015-08-28 10:03 AM I currently feed blue bonnet omega force along with omnis cubes. Before I started the omnis I fed 4lbs a day per head. Now I'm only feeding 2lbs a day. My horses look good and are maintaining good body condition.

winwillows - 2015-08-27 10:20 AM Cut-Ost and one pound of Renew Gold, check teeth and you are good to go. No synthetic added ingredients. Very potent antioxidant support and upper GI tract help from coconut. We have a lot of horses going to this.

winwillows - 2015-08-28 8:38 AM


First, Renew Gold was not made in 2009. The very first retail bags delivered on 12/24/2011. We have never had a colic call to the office. If you feed enough horses, and we do, there is always going to be other influences in their lives that can cause issues that are blamed on the wrong cause. There is nothing in Renew Gold that would stimulate a colic at our low recommended feed rates. Once again, two horses at the same time when this simply does not happen (or at best would be statistically ultra rare with one horse, let alone two) anywhere else would better indicate the possibility of something else in that environment at that time effecting more that one horse at the same time. One off bale of hay would be much more likely to cause this. We get calls from time to time about effectiveness and usually can identify what the road block is if the customers calls us to go over their program. Every horse is different, and we are not going to be perfect for every one. But, our customer satisfaction rate speaks for itself. Sorry to steal this thread. On BlueBonnet, it is a very good company. Their formulations are pretty innovative, and their mill is safe.

readytorodeo - 2015-08-28 10:01 AM

No one is saying Renew Gold is bad. It didn't work on our horses. I talked to a vet about it and his explanation was that some horses can't handle that much fat .

wyoming barrel racer - 2015-08-28 2:32 PM

I REALLY want to try it. I am in the works of having my local feed store get it in. I was on ADM until the poisoning fiasco. They also get Woody's in and I have always wanted to try that until I saw the bags. It looks and smells like pure molassas. The bags also get oily spots where they sit at the feedstore. To me it just looks like WAY too much sugar. My horses don't need that kind of feed, I'm afraid they would get higher than a kite.

I just bought a couple bags of Purina Active Senior for my boy's really old pony and 22 yr old geldings. I like it because it has more fat. Not sure what BlueBonnets to try. I would love one that would be good for the old geldings and still enough for the riding horses. 

Serenity06 - 2015-08-28 1:38 PM I used SafeChoice Senior and Purina Senior and have had WAY more luck with the BB Omega Force! If the horse can still eat hay and doesn't NEED the senior feed to supply the roughage then I highly suggest the Omega Force. You can always call a rep and ask them too! The Omega Force is very concentrated so it's fed at a lower amount then most other grains. Only 1 out of 8 horses on our property refused to eat it. After 3 days that 1 horse gave in and he now loves it.