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| Do most people wrap there horses legs while hauling ? With Cotton wrap and polo wraps? Advantages to wrapping there legs ?
I see lots of people that wrap and the lots that don't but all the people at the track do so was curious on other opinions thanks |
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| I don't. It's too hot in the summer! I do like to put 8 inches or so shavings down, and my sore footed horse gets Soft Rides.
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| I use to wrap religiously. Not anymore. Now we just bed the trailer fairly deep and use Soft Rides. Depending on the weather, we may use the MagnaCu wraps. Too many people have no idea what they are doing and end up wrap bowing I tendon. |
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Location: Louisiana | I had a very good vet say to wrap every time they step in the trailer. I haven't been lately just bc it's so dang HOT. But when it does cool off I'll go back to wrapping. I use no bows and standing bandages. Often, I'll wrap him before we head home and leave him wrapped til the next morning. |
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| It depends on how far the haul is. We always put my good horse in the front because it hauls the best, then if it's more than a hour haul, she gets her Professional Choice standing wraps on. She has old tendon/ligament injuries though, so we do all we can to keep swelling down on her. |
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| Martha Josey hired someone to wrap her horses legs about 20 years ago. That is her job. She starts wrapping several weeks before hauling to an important barrel race like Congress. I wrap if I am hauling any distance BUT it is critical that you wrap correctly. You also need to use NOBOWS. If you do not wrap correctly you are better off without wraps. By the way, Martha learned this from Bob Baffert. I think he keeps his horses wrapped all the time. It helps prevent suspensory injuries. |
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Location: Phoenix | I don't wrap. I don't see the need. |
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| streakysox - 2015-08-30 6:40 PM
Martha Josey hired someone to wrap her horses legs about 20 years ago. That is her job. She starts wrapping several weeks before hauling to an important barrel race like Congress. I wrap if I am hauling any distance BUT it is critical that you wrap correctly. You also need to use NOBOWS. If you do not wrap correctly you are better off without wraps. By the way, Martha learned this from Bob Baffert. I think he keeps his horses wrapped all the time. It helps prevent suspensory injuries.
When I went to her clinic, her leg wrapper did a demonstration with everyone. Good lord she makes it look so easy (I guess when you do it every day for 20 years, you get pretty dang good at it). Anytime my mare is stalled, she gets her legs wrapped for sure. |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-08-30 6:58 PM
streakysox - 2015-08-30 6:40 PM
Martha Josey hired someone to wrap her horses legs about 20 years ago. That is her job. She starts wrapping several weeks before hauling to an important barrel race like Congress. I wrap if I am hauling any distance BUT it is critical that you wrap correctly. You also need to use NOBOWS. If you do not wrap correctly you are better off without wraps. By the way, Martha learned this from Bob Baffert. I think he keeps his horses wrapped all the time. It helps prevent suspensory injuries.
When I went to her clinic, her leg wrapper did a demonstration with everyone. Good lord she makes it look so easy (I guess when you do it every day for 20 years, you get pretty dang good at it ). Anytime my mare is stalled, she gets her legs wrapped for sure.
Yep, Pam has been doing that a LONG time. I have a mare with some suspensory issues. That was very helpful to me. Over the years, Martha's h9rses have had very few leg issues. |
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| I am always worried that the wraps hold the heat in which is what we all don't want in the legs that why I can't decide if wrapping is good or not. |
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Location: west of East Texas | I don't wrap but I do use shipping boots. I worry about traffic issues that would cause them to hit themselves and I have two that back out like rocket ships and I don't want them banging themselves up. I also had one attack another, going under the divider but all she could rip into was the shipping boot. The shipping boots have saved me a lot of injuries. |
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Location: MD | I don't wrap in the trailer. They get bell boots on to haul, but that's it. I used to be a freak about wrapping for every haul, but then I started dating a Polo player and he laughed at me for wrapping. They cram a huge trailer full of some of the top polo ponies in the world and ship all over the country bare legged. I do wrap when they're stalled up at shows and the like as though their lives depend on it though. |
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| I don't wrap. Never have and never will. It creates too much heat buildup. I also think it can make tendons weak. With constant support of a wrap, how are they ever supposed to strengthen, naturally by themselves? I leased my horse to an NFR girl one summer and told her I do not wrap in the trailer while hauling. She asked why and I said because of the heat buildup. She said her thoughts were the exact same and she doesn't wrap either. On another note, I could see benefits of using the equiflexsleeves on horses that stock up. They seem to be a fairly light material, but still seem effective from what Ive seen. |
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Location: Kansas | No I don't wrap, but I probably will in the winter if I start hauling quite a bit. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | I don't wrap, I feel like they can sometimes they can cause more problems than they can help. |
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Location: North Dakota | If you do wrap, don't use polos. Use standing bandages. I never have wrapped while trailering but would consider it if it was for a longer distance and in cooler weather. |
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| I never really have, however I recently have been considering it. My mare is a great hauler, and loads and unloads easy, but for some reason she just can't seem to back out without banging herself on the back of the trailer. I'm not terribly concerned with her hurting herself, as I have a bumper along the bottom, but I think wrapping her back legs might be a good idea. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Figure this one out... I wrap to haul & run 'em naked! 
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | I don't wrap with bandages normally, unless needed, but I'll use my MagnaCu quick wraps or Fast Wraps every trailer ride. Remember copper has cooling agents!
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Location: PNW | WrapSnap - 2015-08-30 9:19 PM
I don't wrap in the trailer. They get bell boots on to haul, but that's it. I used to be a freak about wrapping for every haul, but then I started dating a Polo player and he laughed at me for wrapping. They cram a huge trailer full of some of the top polo ponies in the world and ship all over the country bare legged. I do wrap when they're stalled up at shows and the like as though their lives depend on it though.
BUT..... polo ponies, even the top ones, are treated like disposable livestock - not like a member of the family like so many of our barrel horses are. My husband played polo professionally for a number of years, and after seven years of watching me with my horses - he still wants to know why I "care so much." Lol. Polo player/groom ways of doing things are definitely NOT what I emulate when making care decisions about my horses.
I wrap from time to time, depending on the situation. If my horse is hauling alone, he only gets bells. If he is going in a trailer hauling with friends, he gets wrapped with normal standing wraps for no other reason than impact protection. If it is super duper cold, he gets Back On Track quick wraps.
He is rarely stalled (because he despises it), but on the rare occasion that he IS stalled, he will get wrapped because he is a notorious stocker-upper.
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | For short distances (2 hours and under) and if only horse in the trailer, then bell boots front and back. If other horses in trailer, everyone is wrapped with standing bandages/no bows and bell boots on all four. At the big shows when horses are stalled more than one night, they are wrapped with standing bandages every night. I also use stall mats at the larger shows for anything more than one night.
I agree that if you plan to wrap you need to receive instruction from someone who knows or you can do more damage than good. |
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Location: MD | svincent - 2015-08-31 3:46 PM
WrapSnap - 2015-08-30 9:19 PM
I don't wrap in the trailer. They get bell boots on to haul, but that's it. I used to be a freak about wrapping for every haul, but then I started dating a Polo player and he laughed at me for wrapping. They cram a huge trailer full of some of the top polo ponies in the world and ship all over the country bare legged. I do wrap when they're stalled up at shows and the like as though their lives depend on it though.
BUT..... polo ponies, even the top ones, are treated like disposable livestock - not like a member of the family like so many of our barrel horses are. My husband played polo professionally for a number of years, and after seven years of watching me with my horses - he still wants to know why I "care so much." Lol. Polo player/groom ways of doing things are definitely NOT what I emulate when making care decisions about my horses.
I wrap from time to time, depending on the situation. If my horse is hauling alone, he only gets bells. If he is going in a trailer hauling with friends, he gets wrapped with normal standing wraps for no other reason than impact protection. If it is super duper cold, he gets Back On Track quick wraps.
He is rarely stalled (because he despises it ), but on the rare occasion that he IS stalled, he will get wrapped because he is a notorious stocker-upper.
I can tell you that some players may think of their ponies as disposable livestock, but certainly not all! When you're hauling and caring for Memo Garcia's string, he might not be there checking in on them all of the time, but you had better believe that he will notice absolutely anything out of the ordinary. |
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Location: floating down a river | Nope. Heat causes more problems with legs and wraps create heat. Mine haul naked. |
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Location: Midwest | WrapSnap - 2015-08-31 11:51 PM svincent - 2015-08-31 3:46 PM WrapSnap - 2015-08-30 9:19 PM I don't wrap in the trailer. They get bell boots on to haul, but that's it. I used to be a freak about wrapping for every haul, but then I started dating a Polo player and he laughed at me for wrapping. They cram a huge trailer full of some of the top polo ponies in the world and ship all over the country bare legged. I do wrap when they're stalled up at shows and the like as though their lives depend on it though. BUT..... polo ponies, even the top ones, are treated like disposable livestock - not like a member of the family like so many of our barrel horses are. My husband played polo professionally for a number of years, and after seven years of watching me with my horses - he still wants to know why I "care so much." Lol. Polo player/groom ways of doing things are definitely NOT what I emulate when making care decisions about my horses. I wrap from time to time, depending on the situation. If my horse is hauling alone, he only gets bells. If he is going in a trailer hauling with friends, he gets wrapped with normal standing wraps for no other reason than impact protection. If it is super duper cold, he gets Back On Track quick wraps. He is rarely stalled (because he despises it ), but on the rare occasion that he IS stalled, he will get wrapped because he is a notorious stocker-upper. I can tell you that some players may think of their ponies as disposable livestock, but certainly not all! When you're hauling and caring for Memo Garcia's string, he might not be there checking in on them all of the time, but you had better believe that he will notice absolutely anything out of the ordinary.
Agree... I used to take lessons at a barn the was full of retired polo horses. There were at least 15 of them. A man had his horses down in Florida and sent the old ones back up north for retirement. They were very well cared for to the end.
I think it all depends on the owner.
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| We are making a 5-6 hour trip this weekend and I will probably poultice & wrap her legs for it. I want them wrapped and also worry about the heat, so the poultice kills 2 birds. I will also bed the trailer. |
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| SpinMeOne - 2015-09-01 5:39 AM
Nope. Heat causes more problems with legs and wraps create heat. Mine haul naked.
Used to think along this line as well and still do in the summer when its hot but we won some BOT wraps and now those quick wraps go on all 4s in the trailer....not to protect from anything but because we usually have a good haul even to local shows and they really seem less stiff when having wore them. BOT wraps are the bomb for trailering... |
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Location: PNW | WrapSnap - 2015-08-31 9:51 PM
svincent - 2015-08-31 3:46 PM
WrapSnap - 2015-08-30 9:19 PM
I don't wrap in the trailer. They get bell boots on to haul, but that's it. I used to be a freak about wrapping for every haul, but then I started dating a Polo player and he laughed at me for wrapping. They cram a huge trailer full of some of the top polo ponies in the world and ship all over the country bare legged. I do wrap when they're stalled up at shows and the like as though their lives depend on it though.
BUT..... polo ponies, even the top ones, are treated like disposable livestock - not like a member of the family like so many of our barrel horses are. My husband played polo professionally for a number of years, and after seven years of watching me with my horses - he still wants to know why I "care so much." Lol. Polo player/groom ways of doing things are definitely NOT what I emulate when making care decisions about my horses.
I wrap from time to time, depending on the situation. If my horse is hauling alone, he only gets bells. If he is going in a trailer hauling with friends, he gets wrapped with normal standing wraps for no other reason than impact protection. If it is super duper cold, he gets Back On Track quick wraps.
He is rarely stalled (because he despises it ), but on the rare occasion that he IS stalled, he will get wrapped because he is a notorious stocker-upper.
I can tell you that some players may think of their ponies as disposable livestock, but certainly not all! When you're hauling and caring for Memo Garcia's string, he might not be there checking in on them all of the time, but you had better believe that he will notice absolutely anything out of the ordinary.
I didn't mean to imply that ALL polo players/owners/grooms regarded their ponies in such a manner, just that I would be careful of which ones I took advice from. Lol.
Sometimes I wish you could have a "tone" when typing. My original post was meant to be light-hearted, not as a dig at polo players/grooms/owners.
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| When I was hauling a lot in the 80's I always wrapped, but the wraps I used and the ones my sister used are not available, at least not where I am looking. They did not have the foam insides and the horses' legs were never hot underneath. They were cotton and light and airy and not the quilted ones, either. I was always warned away from those. Oh, and we never used polo,s only standing wraps. I can see how the pillow wraps used today can heat up their legs in the summer.
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Location: WI | I use my soft rides on all 4, and BOT quick wraps unless it's ungodly hot out. |
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Location: Ohio | I wrap with no bows and standing wraps almost always. I usually don't wrap for a very short trip (less than 30 minutes) I guess out of laziness. I learned to wrap while working at a racetrack while going to college. One of the most useful things I have learned.
You hear a lot of people say they don't wrap due to excess heat, but you never see a top racehorse step off a van or trailer without leg wraps on. I find this interesting considering what those horses are worth. Those trainers must feel the risk of heat is less the the risk of injury? Not trying to start a fight, just making an observation.
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Location: Good ole SE Mo | Those of you that wrap in the stall for stocking up.......... Would applying politus (never can spell that lol) be good or wrapping be better? If wrapping what do you wrap with? I have a head horse that went for his first weekend trip with me and he stocked up. I was going to politus him next time but now wonder if I should wrap. Also have a barrel/head horse that stocks up some in the back legs. With him last year I just used politus. I don't haul over weekend often but will start going to more US ropings next year (got to get over cutting off my finger first lol)
Also do horses get over stocking up? Within a month or so I will finally have stalls at home and they will all be in them at night. Will they eventually get used to it and not stock up?
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Location: North Dakota | These work to take the swelling out of one that stocks up, but, silly me I've never used them to haul with....anyone else have opinions about them??
http://www.statelinetack.com/item/classic-equine-stress-guard-wraps/E007959/ |
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| roperqueen - 2015-09-02 9:43 AM
Those of you that wrap in the stall for stocking up.......... Would applying politus (never can spell that lol) be good or wrapping be better? If wrapping what do you wrap with? I have a head horse that went for his first weekend trip with me and he stocked up. I was going to politus him next time but now wonder if I should wrap. Also have a barrel/head horse that stocks up some in the back legs. With him last year I just used politus. I don't haul over weekend often but will start going to more US ropings next year (got to get over cutting off my finger first lol)
Also do horses get over stocking up? Within a month or so I will finally have stalls at home and they will all be in them at night. Will they eventually get used to it and not stock up?
Thanks!
We always put Absorbine liniment on under any standing wraps. (gel, but they get liquid liniment after every ride on their entire bodies). We use Professional Choice VenTECH quick standing wraps.
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | Yep, unless it's under 5 or so miles (then I'll just use bells). I use no-bows and standing wraps then put bells on front. I find that usually I'm the only one doing it around here, but I grew up doing the hunter jumper thing and that was the norm. I'm a believer in it and will continue to wrap as I've seen several nasty trailer incidents through the years.
However, I do agree with those who said if you don't know how to wrap...don't do it or just use shipping boots. A bad wrap job is 100x's worse than bare legs...
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | I don't wrap. I'd be afraid I'd cause more problems than what I'd prevent. I will use shipping boots for impact protection if we are going long distances. I used to use shipping boots for every single ride. I got over that. |
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Location: Fort Collins, CO | WrapSnap - 2015-08-31 9:51 PM
svincent - 2015-08-31 3:46 PM
WrapSnap - 2015-08-30 9:19 PM
I don't wrap in the trailer. They get bell boots on to haul, but that's it. I used to be a freak about wrapping for every haul, but then I started dating a Polo player and he laughed at me for wrapping. They cram a huge trailer full of some of the top polo ponies in the world and ship all over the country bare legged. I do wrap when they're stalled up at shows and the like as though their lives depend on it though.
BUT..... polo ponies, even the top ones, are treated like disposable livestock - not like a member of the family like so many of our barrel horses are. My husband played polo professionally for a number of years, and after seven years of watching me with my horses - he still wants to know why I "care so much." Lol. Polo player/groom ways of doing things are definitely NOT what I emulate when making care decisions about my horses.
I wrap from time to time, depending on the situation. If my horse is hauling alone, he only gets bells. If he is going in a trailer hauling with friends, he gets wrapped with normal standing wraps for no other reason than impact protection. If it is super duper cold, he gets Back On Track quick wraps.
He is rarely stalled (because he despises it ), but on the rare occasion that he IS stalled, he will get wrapped because he is a notorious stocker-upper.
I can tell you that some players may think of their ponies as disposable livestock, but certainly not all! When you're hauling and caring for Memo Garcia's string, he might not be there checking in on them all of the time, but you had better believe that he will notice absolutely anything out of the ordinary.
I played polo and worked for a family that i am an 'adopted' daughter of. i can tell you their polo ponies are NOT treated like disposable livestock, nor any of the players i've ever met. And, those horses that i rode and took care of, well, they became 'mine' too.
I learned how to take care of legs because of polo. And i second it that you can bet your a** the owner will notice something off.
Just because they go head to tail in the trailer holding 8 doesn't mean the owners don't care.
Yes they have another one to get on in case something happens---doesn't mean they aren't treated like kings & queens. :) |
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Location: Phoenix | FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-09-02 11:58 AM roperqueen - 2015-09-02 9:43 AM Those of you that wrap in the stall for stocking up.......... Would applying politus (never can spell that lol) be good or wrapping be better? If wrapping what do you wrap with? I have a head horse that went for his first weekend trip with me and he stocked up. I was going to politus him next time but now wonder if I should wrap. Also have a barrel/head horse that stocks up some in the back legs. With him last year I just used politus. I don't haul over weekend often but will start going to more US ropings next year (got to get over cutting off my finger first lol) Also do horses get over stocking up? Within a month or so I will finally have stalls at home and they will all be in them at night. Will they eventually get used to it and not stock up? Thanks! We always put Absorbine liniment on under any standing wraps. (gel, but they get liquid liniment after every ride on their entire bodies ). We use Professional Choice VenTECH quick standing wraps.
I'd dose them with a bag of silver lining herbs kidney support. Mine stocked up real bad and quit when I did that. Sore No More poultice is great too--only stuff that's actually worked for me. |
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| WrapSnap - 2015-08-30 11:19 PM
I don't wrap in the trailer. They get bell boots on to haul, but that's it. I used to be a freak about wrapping for every haul, but then I started dating a Polo player and he laughed at me for wrapping. They cram a huge trailer full of some of the top polo ponies in the world and ship all over the country bare legged. I do wrap when they're stalled up at shows and the like as though their lives depend on it though.
You are a trainer correct? My trainer always wraps when she hauls longer distances. We have a lot of local barrel races but TX is a big state so many are far away. I think if my horse got hurt because she did not use good judgement even in something as simple as leg wraps I would be more than upset. I never worry about my horse because I know that she is better taken care of than at my house. I like to think that my horse is worth just a little effort to keep her performing at her very best. I guess it is OK if the horses are yours |
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Location: MD | streakysox - 2015-09-04 3:28 PM
WrapSnap - 2015-08-30 11:19 PM
I don't wrap in the trailer. They get bell boots on to haul, but that's it. I used to be a freak about wrapping for every haul, but then I started dating a Polo player and he laughed at me for wrapping. They cram a huge trailer full of some of the top polo ponies in the world and ship all over the country bare legged. I do wrap when they're stalled up at shows and the like as though their lives depend on it though.
You are a trainer correct? My trainer always wraps when she hauls longer distances. We have a lot of local barrel races but TX is a big state so many are far away. I think if my horse got hurt because she did not use good judgement even in something as simple as leg wraps I would be more than upset. I never worry about my horse because I know that she is better taken care of than at my house. I like to think that my horse is worth just a little effort to keep her performing at her very best. I guess it is OK if the horses are yours
I am a trainer. If a client requests that their horses is wrapped, or wears shipping boots to haul, I am more than happy to fill that request. ;) |
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