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| I am currently looking at having a barn built but my property is sloped downhill. Financially, the best option is to have it on a slab to avoid erosion and the amount of dirt work I would need before building. Does anyone have a barn build on slab? I would have stall mats and layers of shavings, but I am just concerned that my horses may get sore if they had to spend a reasonable amount of time stalled. |
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| We have concrete floors. As soon as we moved to this barn, we spent a couple thousand dollars buying the best stall mats we Could find. Have never had a problem but we do a lot of turnout too.
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Location: Florida.. | I did.. but cant you leave the stalls without concrete and just build them up with clay and then heavy mats to..?
my barn had all concrete but the stalls .each stall was cut out I guess so none was poured in them.we hard packed them with clay and heavy duty stalls mats tightly put in them. |
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| We have pro mat stalls and have no problems for 10 yrs. Good luck
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| You could always put some clay on top of concrete then your bedding or some good stall mats. |
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Location: Florida.. | daisycake123 - 2015-08-31 6:47 AM You could always put some clay on top of concrete then your bedding or some good stall mats.
that would be a mess. |
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| Once you built the barn if you put 5-6 inches of sand in stall or stine dust and put bedding over. I just dont like mats over concrete. The sand would cushion and could either put mats over top. Or just do bedding. Ir if you put a lot of bedding if you have access to. |
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Location: Florida.. | daisycake123 - 2015-08-31 9:14 PM Once you built the barn if you put 5-6 inches of sand in stall or stine dust and put bedding over. I just dont like mats over concrete. The sand would cushion and could either put mats over top. Or just do bedding. Ir if you put a lot of bedding if you have access to.
my thought is urine.. if there is concrete under the dirt it has nowhere to go.. but stay in the 5 inches of dirt or clay.. ith no concrete it can absorb down and in .. after awhile that 5 inches of dirt will stink... if its just concrete and mats and shavings makes more sense.it will absorb in shavings and you can clean them out.. the dirt your basically not able to. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | My barn is wall to wall concrete. I wouldn't have it any other way. I have rubber mats and straw in each stall. I can pull mats and hose out stalls to keep it sanitary if needed. |
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Location: So. California | Does anyone know if it possible to use pervious concrete for stall floors? Would it work? |
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| 1goodride - 2015-08-30 6:50 PM
I am currently looking at having a barn built but my property is sloped downhill. Financially, the best option is to have it on a slab to avoid erosion and the amount of dirt work I would need before building. Does anyone have a barn build on slab? I would have stall mats and layers of shavings, but I am just concerned that my horses may get sore if they had to spend a reasonable amount of time stalled.
Evidently you have not priced the cost of concrete, steel rods and labor to make a concrete floor ... $$$$$ that you can't see ..
Your barn pad prepping is the most important thing ... use the dirt on the upward slope to build up your pad to 2 ft .. make sure the dozer operator cuts a wide ditch on the high side to direct any water off the slope around your barn site...
After you have a 10 ft oversized pad perimeter in place ... trench an 18 inch deep trench around the exact perimeter of the barn ... set all of your barn poles in the trench and retaining boards for a 10 inch stem wall. Now, be ready to pour your concrete with steel rods sticking up into the stem wall from the trench to strengthen the 10 inch stem wall you will have above ground as additional anti flooding and overall strength of the barn ... omit the stem wall with a finished concrete pad where there will be any doors ... the concrete can be a bottom runner// guide for your doors in these areas ... your barn builder will be aware of how to do this ...
Your barn floor now is almost 3 ft higher than the sloping ground ....
IF you still have concerns with barn flooding due to rain or faucet left on ... cut you some sewer pipe the width of the stem wall or trench and just lay them across the gap before you pour your concrete .. they will act as a seep pipe to drain excess water in your barn ... do one for each stall area. To keep concrete from getting into the pipe .. just put the pipe in some paper bags from a fast food place as you place them in the trench or stem wall ... the paper will rot out and not plug the pipe .. OK//
By doing the stem walls it will force your barn builder to have a level floor to build to and not have a foot difference with jacked up walls on a tilted pad ... then you would have to shovel dirt in to level up the floor after barn is built .. which is a labor intensive job ...
Now fill the inside of the barn with a good clay sand mix level with the tops of the concrete stem walls ... (no concrete stall runners inside the barn) (ask sand company about infield sand they use on baseball fields )
I would also suggest you increase the outside walls of your barn by 1 foot to compensate for the increased height of the barn floor due to the stem wall ... i.e. original plans 10 ft walls ... change to 11/12 ft walls depending on builder this may not need to be done)
The size of the ditch to divert the water off the slope needs to be built twice as wide and twice as deep as you think you need ... it will silt in to the exact size you want over time ... GOOD LUCK ...
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Location: on my horse | CYA Ranch - 2015-08-31 8:51 PM
My barn is wall to wall concrete. I wouldn't have it any other way. I have rubber mats and straw in each stall. I can pull mats and hose out stalls to keep it sanitary if needed.
This would be a big selling point to me, a way to totally clean rinse and sanitize stalls would be WONDERFUL I've been dealing with dirt floor stalls forever and they drive me nuts I'm constantly re leveling or the dirt works up through the mats and then I'm still having issues and I feel like I can never get things actually really and truly dry.
However, I had a dirt run in stall (think giant loafing shed with panel separating my horses stall from the next one over and he had a nice turnout too) and it dried much better and I was able to keep moving his bedding pile around to keep things dry and level butttt it wasn't an actual barn like you're talking. |
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barn on concrete slab? opinions please