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Exercises to get a horse working off their back end
Mis_Trev
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-09-01 10:41 AM
Subject: Exercises to get a horse working off their back end


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I running a mare that really drops in the front to make her turns.  To best describe it, imagine when you place your forehead on the baseball bat and spin around.  This mare drops her head and swings her butt in the turns.  She is sound, no ulcers, utd on teeth, etc...
Any ideas on drills/exercises to get her working off her back end again? 

 
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Izzy+coy
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2015-09-01 11:00 AM
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Lots of roll backs !
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Mis_Trev
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-09-01 2:38 PM
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Izzy+coy - 2015-09-01 10:00 AM Lots of roll backs !

Thank you!! 
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clampitt
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2015-09-01 4:12 PM
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 Most always unless they run down hill.The reason is the rider is holding the horse up pulling too much and droping them right at the turn.
Stop rock back two or three steps and turn go to a target.Directional rein has to be balanced with the balance rein to keep horse balanced.If you just pull on one rein around that can swing the horses rear out and plant the front end in the ground.
Most aways ones I get that do that.Dive in or drop Have been pulled on and dropped at the turn.Plant front feet and swing their rear out.They have to go straight stop straight and draw straight first.Rock back and go to a target.

 
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Mis_Trev
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-09-01 11:19 PM
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clampitt - 2015-09-01 3:12 PM

 Most always unless they run down hill.The reason is the rider is holding the horse up pulling too much and droping them right at the turn.
Stop rock back two or three steps and turn go to a target.Directional rein has to be balanced with the balance rein to keep horse balanced.If you just pull on one rein around that can swing the horses rear out and plant the front end in the ground.
Most aways ones I get that do that.Dive in or drop Have been pulled on and dropped at the turn.Plant front feet and swing their rear out.They have to go straight stop straight and draw straight first.Rock back and go to a target.

 

Thank you.
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WrapSnap
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-09-01 11:30 PM
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When they are that kind of front endy, all of the tricks and drills in the world aren't truly going to help. These are the horses that need to go back and get fixed in the dry work. In order to be able to stand upright and use themselves properly in a turn, a horse must be balanced, engaged from behind, in self carriage and broke laterally. If one is dumping onto it's front end so bad it's like they're turning on their nose and slinging their hind end out with no control, they are quite obviously lacking these fundamentals.
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Nita
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-09-01 11:50 PM
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WrapSnap - 2015-09-01 11:30 PM

When they are that kind of front endy, all of the tricks and drills in the world aren't truly going to help. These are the horses that need to go back and get fixed in the dry work. In order to be able to stand upright and use themselves properly in a turn, a horse must be balanced, engaged from behind, in self carriage and broke laterally. If one is dumping onto it's front end so bad it's like they're turning on their nose and slinging their hind end out with no control, they are quite obviously lacking these fundamentals.

I second that. But, I think it's fixable. I won a LOT of money on one.

Keep in mind, if you've been running barrels like this for a while, it might be a habit now, and your horse will ALWAYS know how to do this. It is going to be an uphill battle to keep them working on their hind end. Like, you're going to have to make it part of your daily routine and build muscle memory.

Use your legs more. EVERY time you stop, sit up first (without touching the reins). Drop your heels, squeeze a little with your calves then, use your reins to bring him to a stop. Back up every time you stop.

When you position yourself for the turn at each barrel, your horse will eventually begin to feel you sit up and get on its hind end.
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Mis_Trev
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-09-02 12:45 AM
Subject: RE: Exercises to get a horse working off their back end


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Nita - 2015-09-01 10:50 PM
WrapSnap - 2015-09-01 11:30 PM When they are that kind of front endy, all of the tricks and drills in the world aren't truly going to help. These are the horses that need to go back and get fixed in the dry work. In order to be able to stand upright and use themselves properly in a turn, a horse must be balanced, engaged from behind, in self carriage and broke laterally. If one is dumping onto it's front end so bad it's like they're turning on their nose and slinging their hind end out with no control, they are quite obviously lacking these fundamentals.
I second that. But, I think it's fixable. I won a LOT of money on one. Keep in mind, if you've been running barrels like this for a while, it might be a habit now, and your horse will ALWAYS know how to do this. It is going to be an uphill battle to keep them working on their hind end. Like, you're going to have to make it part of your daily routine and build muscle memory. Use your legs more. EVERY time you stop, sit up first (without touching the reins). Drop your heels, squeeze a little with your calves then, use your reins to bring him to a stop. Back up every time you stop. When you position yourself for the turn at each barrel, your horse will eventually begin to feel you sit up and get on its hind end.

 Thanks. She hasn't been doing this for too long.  I didn't realize really what she was doing until I started comparing videos - my times kept getting slower and slower. I appreciate all the advise! I'll definitely be backing off and going back to fundamentals! 
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-09-02 6:10 AM
Subject: RE: Exercises to get a horse working off their back end


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 If it's new, check for hind end soreness
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Mis_Trev
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-09-02 7:53 AM
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She's not sore... I definitely think it's something I'm doing.
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