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Location: lexington KY | I know you all enjoyed this entry last year, so we did it again this year. We will be updating it weekly as the standings change, so you can bookmark the page or always find it on our Facebook. Some great horses this year! Enjoy.
http://ontherodeoroad.com/top-15-barrel-racers-horses-pedigrees-2015/
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | TheOldGrayMare - 2015-09-01 3:56 PM I love seeing all the DTF...top and bottom. People always say they aren't sound enough to go down the road and/or don't last after their futurity careers.
7 of them. Many don't hold up. Even the top trainers riding and winning on them say they don't last. That they give too much of themselves to last. I don't own one, wouldn't mind a daughter, but I have other lines I would prefer. But there is no denying they win. There are so dang many of them now a days, can't help but have some at the NFR now. Anyone know how many have been to the NFR before? I can only think of Vicki S riding one and I was thinking someone else??
How many FG's have been to the NFR? For how prolific he is as a sire, I can't think of many of them either. Jordan Briggs had one and I think the mother/daughter team (can't think of her name) but her mom ran a FG during the summer and the daughter rode it at the NFR. Her mom had cancer I think for awhile. UGH I am getting too old to remember names. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-01 8:01 PM TheOldGrayMare - 2015-09-01 3:56 PM I love seeing all the DTF...top and bottom. People always say they aren't sound enough to go down the road and/or don't last after their futurity careers. 7 of them. Many don't hold up. Even the top trainers riding and winning on them say they don't last. That they give too much of themselves to last. I don't own one, wouldn't mind a daughter, but I have other lines I would prefer. But there is no denying they win. There are so dang many of them now a days, can't help but have some at the NFR now. Anyone know how many have been to the NFR before? I can only think of Vicki S riding one and I was thinking someone else??
How many FG's have been to the NFR? For how prolific he is as a sire, I can't think of many of them either. Jordan Briggs had one and I think the mother/daughter team (can't think of her name) but her mom ran a FG during the summer and the daughter rode it at the NFR. Her mom had cancer I think for awhile. UGH I am getting too old to remember names.
Are you thinking of Dollie Lauteret's Twinkie? |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-01 7:22 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-01 8:01 PM TheOldGrayMare - 2015-09-01 3:56 PM I love seeing all the DTF...top and bottom. People always say they aren't sound enough to go down the road and/or don't last after their futurity careers. 7 of them. Many don't hold up. Even the top trainers riding and winning on them say they don't last. That they give too much of themselves to last. I don't own one, wouldn't mind a daughter, but I have other lines I would prefer. But there is no denying they win. There are so dang many of them now a days, can't help but have some at the NFR now. Anyone know how many have been to the NFR before? I can only think of Vicki S riding one and I was thinking someone else??
How many FG's have been to the NFR? For how prolific he is as a sire, I can't think of many of them either. Jordan Briggs had one and I think the mother/daughter team (can't think of her name) but her mom ran a FG during the summer and the daughter rode it at the NFR. Her mom had cancer I think for awhile. UGH I am getting too old to remember names.
YES YES!! Not sure if that was the horse's name, but that is the rider's name anyways. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Found this on them. Yes Twinkie was the horse I was thinking of. http://gojolee.com/bio.asp |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-01 8:29 PM
Found this on them. Yes Twinkie was the horse I was thinking of. http://gojolee.com/bio.asp
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Funny how you can't ride papers, but there's not a no-name generic pedigree in the bunch. Thanks for posting!
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-01 7:31 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-01 8:29 PM Found this on them. Yes Twinkie was the horse I was thinking of. http://gojolee.com/bio.asp Funny how Jolee's boas seem almost tame compared to FT. LOL
I admit, I wasn't a fan of her clothing. It was neat seeing someone that could rope as well as she could, go in and hold her own in the barrels too. I think she won a round or two. Can't remember if it was the Miss Sticks horse or the Twinkie one though. |
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Location: The edge of no where | Itsme - 2015-09-01 8:57 PM Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-01 4:45 PM Funny how you can't ride papers, but there's not a no-name generic pedigree in the bunch. Thanks for posting! Thats what their rich boyfriends bought them...
Have you even bothered look into the background of some of these girls? Why do you always bash on people that have anything nice? Jealous much?
Thanks to the OP for putting this together, I love seeing the bloodlines.
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Itsme - 2015-09-01 8:57 PM Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-01 4:45 PM Funny how you can't ride papers, but there's not a no-name generic pedigree in the bunch. Thanks for posting! Thats what their rich boyfriends bought them...
Have you even bothered look into the background of some of these girls? Why do you always bash on people that have anything nice? Jealous much?
Thanks to the OP for putting this together, I love seeing the bloodlines.
That's what I was thinking too...like WOW, even if it was a joke, it was kinda rude and unnecessary. |
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Location: lexington KY | zelma - 2015-09-02 3:42 PM Is Chisum the oldest one out there? Any body know of the oldest barrel horse to go to the NFR?
Tana Poppino's horse Amigo was 16 or 17, but I am not sure on the oldest horse to go to the NFR. |
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Is Chisum the oldest one out there? Any body know of the oldest barrel horse to go to the NFR?
Rachel Myllymaki's Mr Wonderful was in his 20's and ran at the NFR. |
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Location: California | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-01 6:01 PM TheOldGrayMare - 2015-09-01 3:56 PM I love seeing all the DTF...top and bottom. People always say they aren't sound enough to go down the road and/or don't last after their futurity careers. 7 of them. Many don't hold up. Even the top trainers riding and winning on them say they don't last. That they give too much of themselves to last. I don't own one, wouldn't mind a daughter, but I have other lines I would prefer. But there is no denying they win. There are so dang many of them now a days, can't help but have some at the NFR now. Anyone know how many have been to the NFR before? I can only think of Vicki S riding one and I was thinking someone else??
How many FG's have been to the NFR? For how prolific he is as a sire, I can't think of many of them either. Jordan Briggs had one and I think the mother/daughter team (can't think of her name) but her mom ran a FG during the summer and the daughter rode it at the NFR. Her mom had cancer I think for awhile. UGH I am getting too old to remember names.
Here are the FG's (own sons/daughters) that have gone:
Ima Super Fly Guy (Pozzi)
Guys Six Pack To Go (Laughlin)
Frenchmans Twister (Lautaret)
Frenchmans Jester (Peterson)
Ima Guy Of Honor (Sears)
NF French Tigger (Blanchard)
French Dream (Blanchard)
FG Grand-Get:
French Covergirl (Pozzi)
Honor Thy Frenchman (Jacobs)
Out of daughters of FG:
Dash Ta Vanila (Steffes)
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| Junior - 2015-09-01 7:16 PM Dash for cash is still on seven of those horses papers! Grand sire or great grand sire ! Still influential! Just sayin
I was just thinking that behind Dash for Cash is that it goes to Rocket Wrangler on 12 out of the 16 listed. I am a bit of a sucker for Rocket Wrangler - even though it's generations back on a pedigree now. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | stayceem - 2015-09-02 2:21 PM I see a lot of First Down Dash on the papers too which is funny to me because Dash to Fame and FDD seem to have very similar bloodlines but I dont here the flack about them not holding up. What do you think the difference is? maybe a different topic but just interesting. Thanks for posting! Love seeing these horses.
Dash Ta Fame is by First Down Dash. He has about a billion sons out there. 99.9% make good barrel sires. He is in a league of his own as far as a sire, broodmare sire and sire of sires goes. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Calibarrelrcr - 2015-09-02 2:32 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-01 6:01 PM TheOldGrayMare - 2015-09-01 3:56 PM I love seeing all the DTF...top and bottom. People always say they aren't sound enough to go down the road and/or don't last after their futurity careers. 7 of them. Many don't hold up. Even the top trainers riding and winning on them say they don't last. That they give too much of themselves to last. I don't own one, wouldn't mind a daughter, but I have other lines I would prefer. But there is no denying they win. There are so dang many of them now a days, can't help but have some at the NFR now. Anyone know how many have been to the NFR before? I can only think of Vicki S riding one and I was thinking someone else??
How many FG's have been to the NFR? For how prolific he is as a sire, I can't think of many of them either. Jordan Briggs had one and I think the mother/daughter team (can't think of her name) but her mom ran a FG during the summer and the daughter rode it at the NFR. Her mom had cancer I think for awhile. UGH I am getting too old to remember names.
Ima Super Fly Guy (Pozzi )
Guys Six Pack To Go (Laughlin )
Frenchmans Twister (Lautaret )
Frenchmans Jester (Peterson )
Ima Guy Of Honor (Sears )
NF French Tigger (Blanchard )
French Dream (Blanchard)
FG Grand-Get:
French Covergirl (Pozzi )
Honor Thy Frenchman (Jacobs )
Out of daughters of FG:
Dash Ta Vanila (Steffes )
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Location: MD | In recent years, I can think of quite a few DTF's who have been at the NFR:
Brenda Mays- Judge My Fame
Sue Smith-Real Claim Ta Fame
Kassidy Dennison- Sierra Hall of Fame
Benette Little- JL Dash Ta Heaven
Angie Meadors- Fantasia Fame
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Love seeing First Down Laveaux. I really liked him when he stood here in LA. We bought a really nice daughter by him years back. I remember going to see him and would swear he had muscle all the way down to his hoofs. I am always secretly looking for another :) |
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Location: The edge of no where | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-02 10:39 PM stayceem - 2015-09-02 2:21 PM I see a lot of First Down Dash on the papers too which is funny to me because Dash to Fame and FDD seem to have very similar bloodlines but I dont here the flack about them not holding up. What do you think the difference is? maybe a different topic but just interesting. Thanks for posting! Love seeing these horses. Dash Ta Fame is by First Down Dash. He has about a billion sons out there. 99.9% make good barrel sires. He is in a league of his own as far as a sire, broodmare sire and sire of sires goes.
I'm a HUGE First Down Dash fan....granted there have been more Dash Ta Fame's in the barrel pen than any of his other sons....but he sired a lot of exceptional horses. |
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wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-02 10:39 PM stayceem - 2015-09-02 2:21 PM I see a lot of First Down Dash on the papers too which is funny to me because Dash to Fame and FDD seem to have very similar bloodlines but I dont here the flack about them not holding up. What do you think the difference is? maybe a different topic but just interesting. Thanks for posting! Love seeing these horses. Dash Ta Fame is by First Down Dash. He has about a billion sons out there. 99.9% make good barrel sires. He is in a league of his own as far as a sire, broodmare sire and sire of sires goes.
Right, I am just saying that if you overlap their pedigrees, a lot of the same lines are found but I never hear the comments about them not holding up. So just wondering what makes DTF "fall apart" and FDD not? |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | stayceem - 2015-09-03 8:51 AM MS2011 - 2015-09-03 8:19 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-02 10:39 PM stayceem - 2015-09-02 2:21 PM I see a lot of First Down Dash on the papers too which is funny to me because Dash to Fame and FDD seem to have very similar bloodlines but I dont here the flack about them not holding up. What do you think the difference is? maybe a different topic but just interesting. Thanks for posting! Love seeing these horses. Dash Ta Fame is by First Down Dash. He has about a billion sons out there. 99.9% make good barrel sires. He is in a league of his own as far as a sire, broodmare sire and sire of sires goes. Right, I am just saying that if you overlap their pedigrees, a lot of the same lines are found but I never hear the comments about them not holding up. So just wondering what makes DTF "fall apart" and FDD not?
I would guess something about his dam's line. I don't know. Maybe it is how they are built in their joints and bones. How they use themselves, no self preservation? I have ridden horses that will limp and quit when they step on a stone wrong. And others that keep trying their heart out for you just months after breaking their pelvis (unbeknownst to me). |
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Location: The edge of no where | stayceem - 2015-09-03 9:51 AM MS2011 - 2015-09-03 8:19 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-02 10:39 PM stayceem - 2015-09-02 2:21 PM I see a lot of First Down Dash on the papers too which is funny to me because Dash to Fame and FDD seem to have very similar bloodlines but I dont here the flack about them not holding up. What do you think the difference is? maybe a different topic but just interesting. Thanks for posting! Love seeing these horses. Dash Ta Fame is by First Down Dash. He has about a billion sons out there. 99.9% make good barrel sires. He is in a league of his own as far as a sire, broodmare sire and sire of sires goes. Right, I am just saying that if you overlap their pedigrees, a lot of the same lines are found but I never hear the comments about them not holding up. So just wondering what makes DTF "fall apart" and FDD not?
IDK that the DTF really fall apart any sooner/differently. There are more of them, so we hear about them more. |
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| MS2011 - 2015-09-03 10:33 AM
stayceem - 2015-09-03 9:51 AM MS2011 - 2015-09-03 8:19 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-02 10:39 PM stayceem - 2015-09-02 2:21 PM I see a lot of First Down Dash on the papers too which is funny to me because Dash to Fame and FDD seem to have very similar bloodlines but I dont here the flack about them not holding up. What do you think the difference is? maybe a different topic but just interesting. Thanks for posting! Love seeing these horses. Dash Ta Fame is by First Down Dash. He has about a billion sons out there. 99.9% make good barrel sires. He is in a league of his own as far as a sire, broodmare sire and sire of sires goes. Right, I am just saying that if you overlap their pedigrees, a lot of the same lines are found but I never hear the comments about them not holding up. So just wondering what makes DTF "fall apart" and FDD not?
And for the record, I have no experience with them falling apart sooner. I was just pondering the idea... maybe DTF goes back to more TB lines? |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | stayceem - 2015-09-03 11:49 AM MS2011 - 2015-09-03 10:33 AM stayceem - 2015-09-03 9:51 AM MS2011 - 2015-09-03 8:19 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-02 10:39 PM stayceem - 2015-09-02 2:21 PM I see a lot of First Down Dash on the papers too which is funny to me because Dash to Fame and FDD seem to have very similar bloodlines but I dont here the flack about them not holding up. What do you think the difference is? maybe a different topic but just interesting. Thanks for posting! Love seeing these horses. Dash Ta Fame is by First Down Dash. He has about a billion sons out there. 99.9% make good barrel sires. He is in a league of his own as far as a sire, broodmare sire and sire of sires goes. Right, I am just saying that if you overlap their pedigrees, a lot of the same lines are found but I never hear the comments about them not holding up. So just wondering what makes DTF "fall apart" and FDD not? And for the record, I have no experience with them falling apart sooner. I was just pondering the idea... maybe DTF goes back to more TB lines?
I have never had one so I don't know either. But I have read interviews with some of the nations top trainers and it has been mentioned several times. Chips etc. There are a lot of FWF out there too and I just can't think of a single time I have heard of any soundness issues. I wish I could get my hands on an own son or daughter. |
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Location: Texas | Im going to go out on a limb or two...
my first thought was- good horses get hurt, good horses use themselves to the point where they risk injury. Lots of dash ta fames are good horses therefore put themselves out there to get hurt.
My second thought was- most barrel horses get hurt at some point. I am willing to bet, with all the talk on these boards about remedies for this and that, and rehabbing techniques for this injury or the other, and most of those horses aren't dash ta fames.
My third thought was- all of my best barrel horses have had some form of injury, and I have yet to own a dash ta fame.
My fourth thought was- theres also plenty of horses who get hurt before they ever run or make anything of themselves.. i have also had that happen, and i still have yet to have a DTF. LOL
I think its the nature of our sport...there are common injuries of barrel horses.. most likely they occur when they are exerting all of their bodies. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | SKM - 2015-09-03 4:19 PM The DTF's are born broke and wanting to hunt a barrel. Hence why they are in such high demand as futurity horses. Futuritying is hard on them physically and mentally. Most are used up by the time they reach the age of 7. Most horses don't make rodeo horses until about the age of 10. I'd blame the futurity road and riders for the lack of DTF's in the rodeo pen before blaming DTF. I wouldn't wish the life of most futurity horses on a junker.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | SKM - 2015-09-03 2:19 PM The DTF's are born broke and wanting to hunt a barrel. Hence why they are in such high demand as futurity horses. Futuritying is hard on them physically and mentally. Most are used up by the time they reach the age of 7. Most horses don't make rodeo horses until about the age of 10. I'd blame the futurity road and riders for the lack of DTF's in the rodeo pen before blaming DTF. I wouldn't wish the life of most futurity horses on a junker.
and that is the round about way I was getting to not seeing DTF at the NFR, but someone did list several that I had forgotten ran there. Many listed for both FG and DTF were back up horses though (I think). |
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Location: MD | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-03 3:51 PM
SKM - 2015-09-03 2:19 PM The DTF's are born broke and wanting to hunt a barrel. Hence why they are in such high demand as futurity horses. Futuritying is hard on them physically and mentally. Most are used up by the time they reach the age of 7. Most horses don't make rodeo horses until about the age of 10. I'd blame the futurity road and riders for the lack of DTF's in the rodeo pen before blaming DTF. I wouldn't wish the life of most futurity horses on a junker.
and that is the round about way I was getting to not seeing DTF at the NFR, but someone did list several that I had forgotten ran there. Many listed for both FG and DTF were back up horses though (I think).
Of the 5 DTF that I listed, Brenda Mays Dora horse was the only backup. Angie went with Fantasia Fame as her primary horse to run there, couldn't keep the barrels up on her and found that Mulberry thrived in the T&M |
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Location: California | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-03 1:51 PM SKM - 2015-09-03 2:19 PM The DTF's are born broke and wanting to hunt a barrel. Hence why they are in such high demand as futurity horses. Futuritying is hard on them physically and mentally. Most are used up by the time they reach the age of 7. Most horses don't make rodeo horses until about the age of 10. I'd blame the futurity road and riders for the lack of DTF's in the rodeo pen before blaming DTF. I wouldn't wish the life of most futurity horses on a junker. and that is the round about way I was getting to not seeing DTF at the NFR, but someone did list several that I had forgotten ran there. Many listed for both FG and DTF were back up horses though (I think).
Dash Ta Fame has sired the most horses to run at the NFR (since 1991) with 10. Yes some were "backups".
Dash Ta Vanila (Steffes)
Fantasia Fame (Meadors)
Gonna Be Famous (Solmonsen)
JL Dash Ta Heaven (Little)
Judge My Fame (Mays)
Real Claim Ta Fame (Smith)
Repete Fame (Campbell)
Sierra Hall Of Fame (Dennison)
Swivel Ta Fame (Ketchum)
Terrible Tommy Twist (Pozzi)
But Brenda's "backup" horse has certainly proven herself in recent years by winning Cheyenne. Brenda just isn't traveling hard like she used to. Tommy is frequently found among the top 40 in the World standings with his usual rider, Sammi Bessert. Benette split time between JL Dash Ta Heaven and Chicados Cash when she made it last, and Angie ran both Fantasia Fame and Mulberry at the same NFR.
DTF is also the paternal grand sire of 1 horse to run at the NFR with HPQ Smokin Rascal (Loflin).
For whatever reason I started tracking the pedigrees of horses to run at the NFR since 1991 (beause that's the earliest I can find videos for) so I have almost every horse that has run through the gate since 1991 on an excel spreadsheet. So if you ever want to know a pedigree stat, I can probably look it up! LOL. |
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Location: MD | Calibarrelrcr - 2015-09-03 11:12 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2015-09-03 1:51 PM SKM - 2015-09-03 2:19 PM The DTF's are born broke and wanting to hunt a barrel. Hence why they are in such high demand as futurity horses. Futuritying is hard on them physically and mentally. Most are used up by the time they reach the age of 7. Most horses don't make rodeo horses until about the age of 10. I'd blame the futurity road and riders for the lack of DTF's in the rodeo pen before blaming DTF. I wouldn't wish the life of most futurity horses on a junker. and that is the round about way I was getting to not seeing DTF at the NFR, but someone did list several that I had forgotten ran there. Many listed for both FG and DTF were back up horses though (I think). Dash Ta Vanila (Steffes ) Fantasia Fame (Meadors ) Gonna Be Famous (Solmonsen ) JL Dash Ta Heaven (Little ) Judge My Fame (Mays ) Real Claim Ta Fame (Smith ) Repete Fame (Campbell ) Sierra Hall Of Fame (Dennison ) Swivel Ta Fame (Ketchum ) Terrible Tommy Twist (Pozzi)
But Brenda's "backup" horse has certainly proven herself in recent years by winning Cheyenne. Brenda just isn't traveling hard like she used to. Tommy is frequently found among the top 40 in the World standings with his usual rider, Sammi Bessert. Benette split time between JL Dash Ta Heaven and Chicados Cash when she made it last, and Angie ran both Fantasia Fame and Mulberry at the same NFR.
DTF is also the paternal grand sire of 1 horse to run at the NFR with HPQ Smokin Rascal (Loflin).
For whatever reason I started tracking the pedigrees of horses to run at the NFR since 1991 (beause that's the earliest I can find videos for) so I have almost every horse that has run through the gate since 1991 on an excel spreadsheet. So if you ever want to know a pedigree stat, I can probably look it up! LOL.
Thank you for adding to my (very) incomplete list! I can't believe that Repete Fame slipped passed my addled brain, as she is one of my favorite horses of all time! |
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Is he still alive? In the U.S.? That is one horse that has not put alot of horse on the ground, but most of them are winners.
As for the argument of Dash Ta Fame and Frenchmans Guy....If you produced upward of 100 babies per yr wouldn't at least 1 of them be a genius?
I am not taking anything away from these two horses, however I like to see a horse that has produced a high percentage of winners vs the number of foals they have on the ground. Those are true producing horses with good genetics. I like to see a horse in the pedigree and keep seeing it, even when they produced limited number of foals....i.e. Pie In The Sky, Easy Jet, Tonto Bar Hank...but I am old school.
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| Warriors Mom - 2015-09-04 8:34 AM
What happened to Firecracker Fire?
Is he still alive? In the U.S.? That is one horse that has not put alot of horse on the ground, but most of them are winners.
As for the argument of Dash Ta Fame and Frenchmans Guy....If you produced upward of 100 babies per yr wouldn't at least 1 of them be a genius?
I am not taking anything away from these two horses, however I like to see a horse that has produced a high percentage of winners vs the number of foals they have on the ground. Those are true producing horses with good genetics. I like to see a horse in the pedigree and keep seeing it, even when they produced limited number of foals....i.e. Pie In The Sky, Easy Jet, Tonto Bar Hank...but I am old school.
Agreed! I have a Tonto Bars Hank granddaughter. Plus she has Triple Flit , Do Do Chic and Boston Mac on her papers. Hard to find that breeding anymore. I just got a nice foal out of her that I'm excited about. :-)) |
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| Warriors Mom - 2015-09-04 7:34 AM
What happened to Firecracker Fire?
Is he still alive? In the U.S.? That is one horse that has not put alot of horse on the ground, but most of them are winners.
As for the argument of Dash Ta Fame and Frenchmans Guy....If you produced upward of 100 babies per yr wouldn't at least 1 of them be a genius?
I am not taking anything away from these two horses, however I like to see a horse that has produced a high percentage of winners vs the number of foals they have on the ground. Those are true producing horses with good genetics. I like to see a horse in the pedigree and keep seeing it, even when they produced limited number of foals....i.e. Pie In The Sky, Easy Jet, Tonto Bar Hank...but I am old school.
Typically a bloodline fades away for a reason. DTF sired a lot of successful track horses before the barrel racers discovered his foals were natural barrel horses. He is about the only horse that had two huge, viable disciplines competing for his foals. To say it's just because of numbers is silly. Studs don't get mares if they can't produce. In order for a stallion to be a producer, they have to have a strong maternal line. That is were DTF, FG, FWF blow most studs out of the water when it comes to siring winners. All three have very prolific dams and all 3, in turn, are being bred to prolific dams. |
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Location: lexington KY | Thanks everyone for the kind comments! I am glad you are enjoying this entry and I love reading about the pedigrees. Things shifted a little this week with Callie Duperier moving int the #1 spot. |
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| polorunner - 2015-09-09 7:47 AM
Thanks everyone for the kind comments! I am glad you are enjoying this entry and I love reading about the pedigrees. Things shifted a little this week with Callie Duperier moving int the #1 spot.
The two in 15th and 16th are like $200 apart... |
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Location: lexington KY | stayceem - 2015-09-09 9:42 AM polorunner - 2015-09-09 7:47 AM Thanks everyone for the kind comments! I am glad you are enjoying this entry and I love reading about the pedigrees. Things shifted a little this week with Callie Duperier moving int the #1 spot. The two in 15th and 16th are like $200 apart...
It is so tight! |
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Location: Northern MN | Go Callie!!!! |
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Location: lexington KY | stayceem - 2015-09-09 9:42 AM polorunner - 2015-09-09 7:47 AM Thanks everyone for the kind comments! I am glad you are enjoying this entry and I love reading about the pedigrees. Things shifted a little this week with Callie Duperier moving int the #1 spot. The two in 15th and 16th are like $200 apart...
This week it is $157.17 seperating them, with Layna Kight moving into the 15th spot, such a tight race.
http://ontherodeoroad.com/top-15-barrel-racers-horses-pedigrees-2015/ |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Warriors Mom - 2015-09-04 8:34 AM
What happened to Firecracker Fire?
Is he still alive? In the U.S.? That is one horse that has not put alot of horse on the ground, but most of them are winners.
As for the argument of Dash Ta Fame and Frenchmans Guy....If you produced upward of 100 babies per yr wouldn't at least 1 of them be a genius?
I am not taking anything away from these two horses, however I like to see a horse that has produced a high percentage of winners vs the number of foals they have on the ground. Those are true producing horses with good genetics. I like to see a horse in the pedigree and keep seeing it, even when they produced limited number of foals....i.e. Pie In The Sky, Easy Jet, Tonto Bar Hank...but I am old school.
Seriously???
You think FG and DTF, just because they are producing higher numbers, have occasional geniuses just through chance??? Hell I've seen little studs who advertise 70-100% winners out of very limited foal crops but those 'winners' may have won $50 in the 3D at the local jackpot. If someone bothered to keep track of those kinds of numbers for FG and DTF they'd have hell of high numbers too. But you don't see a ton of those studs siring NFR horses and BFA winners and arena record holders. DTF and FG do it over and over and over again. When they sire winners they sire world class winners. DTF has earners of over 31 million in his years siring. You don't have offspring earning that much because you have a 'few geniuses' just because of chance. They are darn good sires and they get darn good dams bred to them so they continue to have MAJOR winners EVERY YEAR. And some people breed to them just to own one and never do as much with it or can't ride them to their full potential. Many factors go into such numbers.
A few geniuses . . . seriously??
If you don't like the lines that's fine. I think its perfectly legitimate to prefer other lines and like high win percentages. But those are two darn fine sires with consistently awesome offspring. |
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | This is Sarah Rose McDonalds other mare.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/brookstone+rose
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Thank you!! I just added it to our list. Now.. who knows Carley Richardsons other horse Fashionable Boy? She told me the sire is Nonstop Firewater and was going to see if she could find the dam. Anyone know? |
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Location: Beggs, OK | polorunner - 2015-09-15 2:08 PM Thank you!! I just added it to our list. Now.. who knows Carley Richardsons other horse Fashionable Boy? She told me the sire is Nonstop Firewater and was going to see if she could find the dam. Anyone know?
Here you go!
http://barrelracingreport.com/issues/8_11_15_BarrelRacingReport_HighRes.pdf |
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| Warriors Mom - 2015-09-04 8:34 AM What happened to Firecracker Fire? Is he still alive? In the U.S.? That is one horse that has not put alot of horse on the ground, but most of them are winners. As for the argument of Dash Ta Fame and Frenchmans Guy....If you produced upward of 100 babies per yr wouldn't at least 1 of them be a genius? I am not taking anything away from these two horses, however I like to see a horse that has produced a high percentage of winners vs the number of foals they have on the ground. Those are true producing horses with good genetics. I like to see a horse in the pedigree and keep seeing it, even when they produced limited number of foals....i.e. Pie In The Sky, Easy Jet, Tonto Bar Hank...but I am old school. Firecracker Fire is still alive. I owned one of his babies. He was a big boy, really nice. The owner doesnt breed to outside mares and rarely sells his babies. We got lucky because "Brad" was 17 hh, 7 years old, and green broke and VERY VERY spooky. He ended up being a nice horse. But she said she wouldnt ever breed to outside mares and I guess she never did. I havent heard of many more of his babies ever being on the market. That was 7 years ago...maybe eight...things may have changed since then.
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GIRL!! You rock! Thank you so much. Adding it to the list now! |
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Location: Indiana | We raised Fashionable Boy. His dam is Fashionable Pay who is by Jets Payday. Unfortunately she passed away several years ago, but raised several really nice babies. |
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Location: lexington KY | Jo Ann - 2015-09-15 4:17 PM We raised Fashionable Boy. His dam is Fashionable Pay who is by Jets Payday. Unfortunately she passed away several years ago, but raised several really nice babies.
So sorry to hear she passed away. |
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Location: MD | MOTIVATED - 2015-09-15 2:24 PM
Warriors Mom - 2015-09-04 8:34 AM What happened to Firecracker Fire? Is he still alive? In the U.S.? That is one horse that has not put alot of horse on the ground, but most of them are winners. As for the argument of Dash Ta Fame and Frenchmans Guy....If you produced upward of 100 babies per yr wouldn't at least 1 of them be a genius? I am not taking anything away from these two horses, however I like to see a horse that has produced a high percentage of winners vs the number of foals they have on the ground. Those are true producing horses with good genetics. I like to see a horse in the pedigree and keep seeing it, even when they produced limited number of foals....i.e. Pie In The Sky, Easy Jet, Tonto Bar Hank...but I am old school. Firecracker Fire is still alive. I owned one of his babies. He was a big boy, really nice. The owner doesnt breed to outside mares and rarely sells his babies. We got lucky because "Brad" was 17 hh, 7 years old, and green broke and VERY VERY spooky. He ended up being a nice horse. But she said she wouldnt ever breed to outside mares and I guess she never did. I havent heard of many more of his babies ever being on the market. That was 7 years ago...maybe eight...things may have changed since then.
There's a stash of Firecracker Fire horses in northern Jersey, a couple of which are studs. I just love watching those suckers work! |
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Location: Missouri | Happy to see a couple Special Efforts in there. I'm riding a 3 year old Grandson of Special Effort, son of Special Elan. So far is a great barrel pattern walker, lol! |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Tbred - 2015-09-15 4:19 PM Happy to see a couple Special Efforts in there. I'm riding a 3 year old Grandson of Special Effort, son of Special Elan. So far is a great barrel pattern walker, lol!
A friend of mine's husband owned Special Elan in his early years. I use to see him all the time. |
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Location: Missouri | Nevertooold - 2015-09-15 7:57 PM Tbred - 2015-09-15 4:19 PM Happy to see a couple Special Efforts in there. I'm riding a 3 year old Grandson of Special Effort, son of Special Elan. So far is a great barrel pattern walker, lol! A friend of mine's husband owned Special Elan in his early years. I use to see him all the time.
He stood stud at Willyturnits for a while here in Missouri. My colt was foaled in March and Special Elan was put down in July, so he is one of his last babies.
He's out of a cutting horse mare that goes back to Sun Frost. So I'm hoping for a nice horse. |
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Location: lexington KY | Updated with a few backup horses and added Meghan Johnson's new horse. Nellie got hurt about a month ago. Layna has been to 94 rodeos... talk about living on the road!
http://ontherodeoroad.com/top-15-barrel-racers-horses-pedigrees-2015/ |
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