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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Gray mare, has lost tail dock and 1/3 of mane. Been to vet twice. This is what all we've done:
1. potassium iodide IV, with dex starting 10cc, eventual titration to 2 cc daily orally over 2-3 weeks, then off dex. That seemed to work, but then she started itching again...
2. Put her on hydrochlorazine (an antihistamine, I think), oral powder, twice daily, plus coal tar and selsun blue shampoo every other day. This seemed to BARELY keep it at bay, but she was still losing some mane, and getting lots of welts on hre shoulder...
3. Put a slinky on her now that it's cooler here in TX, but she gets out of it, believe it or not.
WHAT can be DONE??????? Thank you!
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | FLITASTIC - 2015-09-16 8:31 PM CUROST Total support and Immune
never heard of CUROST...should I google it? Did this work for YOU with an itchy horse?
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Location: Muskogee, OK | Try a slow release dexamethasone product... I've had good luck with a product called Voren. It is an IM dexamethasone slow release shot that lasts about 21 days-- some horses it will last a little longer, some a little less. I have a mare with really bad fly bite hypersensitivity that this has helped a bunch! |
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Location: NE Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-09-16 8:31 PM CUROST Total support and Immune
I second this. You can create an acct on www.secondvet.com and speak with Dr. Schell directly by posting your question and all treatments you've previously tried. More info on the Cur-OST at wwww.nouvelleresearch.com. Also a long thread on the product research forum on this site where several of us have shared our stories. :) |
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Location: Florida.. | Id also power pac her .. pinworms will leave itchy eggs outside and cause a horse to go crazy on their tail area.. really bad. |
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Location: /ARKANSAS | I have been dealing with this for almost two years, gone through the steroids, etc. I have been doing fecal egg counts instead of worming on a schedule. My gelding started with hives, then blisters then crusts. Nothing helped, then during research I read where routine worming keeps thread worms at bay usually. When I wormed him it became worse and that was noted to happen. Now the scratching and hives are only on one side of his neck, I apply MTG some times calamine lotion sometimes. But this is just on lower neck to withers! Driving me crazy... |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | thanks so much for help, I'm calling vet in morning. Keep ideas coming!! |
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Location: Texas | Give her a shot of DepoMedro
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Location: Texas | I guess surely they have given her a shot of vetalog? |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | WARNING!! Vetalog can and will cause a horse to founder! |
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Location: North Dakota | So...you've talked about treatments, what about things BEFORE this became a problem?? Couple of questions or things to think about:
Pasture changed-or is she on pasture instead of a stall?
Feed change-duh-I know, but can sometimes trigger a whole batch of problems
Environment change-shavings-new place to live-
Is there a lot of new growth of sage, ragweed, pine trees etc in her life?
New building where she might be stalled.
A LOT of these things can be controlled-spraying weeds, go back to old feed etc.
If absolutely NONE of this has changed-you need to do some bloodwork-an allergic reaction shows up in a simple CBC. After that I would start going deeper-metabolic disorders-just like humans-can affect a horse.
BTW-I have seen some good results with depomedrol and vetalog for isolated incidences where a known allergen was involved.
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| CrossCreek - 2015-09-17 9:18 AM
WARNING!! Vetalog can and will cause a horse to founder!
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| Have you tried treating the area with Listerine? Wash it really good, poor Listerine over the tail dock and mane line, let it set for 3 to 5 minutes and then rinse it off. |
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Location: mi | cyount2009 - 2015-09-17 12:09 PM Have you tried treating the area with Listerine? Wash it really good, poor Listerine over the tail dock and mane line, let it set for 3 to 5 minutes and then rinse it off.
Warning the above might well work. But will cause a horse with dark mane or tail hair to have some nice high lights for the next year or so. :) |
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Location: OK | old timers used vicks - just plain vicks |
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Location: Bandera, TX | I have a stud colt having the same problems. Hardly any mane left and the top third of the tail has been gone since early spring. I really believe it's a histamine reaction to the deer flys. He had many treatments and finally I collapsed and let the vet give him a vetalog injection. Which has helped for the last several weeks. I did see him scratching yesterday... ugh.
Thanks for asking as I'm willing to try the Cur-ost and hopefully winter will give him a break. |
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Location: Ky | CrossCreek - 2015-09-16 8:15 PM Gray mare, has lost tail dock and 1/3 of mane. Been to vet twice. This is what all we've done:
1. potassium iodide IV, with dex starting 10cc, eventual titration to 2 cc daily orally over 2-3 weeks, then off dex. That seemed to work, but then she started itching again...
2. Put her on hydrochlorazine (an antihistamine, I think), oral powder, twice daily, plus coal tar and selsun blue shampoo every other day. This seemed to BARELY keep it at bay, but she was still losing some mane, and getting lots of welts on hre shoulder...
3. Put a slinky on her now that it's cooler here in TX, but she gets out of it, believe it or not.
WHAT can be DONE??????? Thank you!
I had this problem with a horse several years ago. Vet took skin samples and sent them off. Nothing could be identified. Used every kind of treatment known at the time. An old horsetrader told me to worm him with safegard. I thought he was nuts as the horse was wormed every 2 months. But it was with ivermectin.
Figuring it couldn't hurt I got some Safegard and wormed him. Miracle cure. I've rotated wormers ever since. That may not fix your horse? But it can't hurt. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_itch
This is what it sounds like to me. We had a gelding that had it a while back. He rubbed chunks of his mane out, had no hair on the dock of his tail or on his butt cheeks. Rubbed the hair off his face and ears and had begun rubbing his shoulder hair off as well. Granted, we bought him that way (don't ask why). Previous owner had injectable allergy meds and pills that were very apparently not working. I wormed him with Safegaurd, I believe. Started applying an aloe Vera salve all over his itchy spots and within a few weeks, noticed hair growing back and very rarely caught him itching thereafter. Good luck!!! |
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| ajs2002 - 2015-09-17 11:43 AM
cyount2009 - 2015-09-17 12:09 PM Have you tried treating the area with Listerine? Wash it really good, poor Listerine over the tail dock and mane line, let it set for 3 to 5 minutes and then rinse it off.
Warning the above might well work. But will cause a horse with dark mane or tail hair to have some nice high lights for the next year or so. :)
Wow! We've done this several times on dark horses and never had an issue with it!  |
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Location: mi | cyount2009 - 2015-09-18 12:19 PM ajs2002 - 2015-09-17 11:43 AM cyount2009 - 2015-09-17 12:09 PM Have you tried treating the area with Listerine? Wash it really good, poor Listerine over the tail dock and mane line, let it set for 3 to 5 minutes and then rinse it off. Warning the above might well work. But will cause a horse with dark mane or tail hair to have some nice high lights for the next year or so. :) Wow! We've done this several times on dark horses and never had an issue with it!
My black horse was iching his tail last fall and I did it high lighted it very nicely. I do a mix. Maybe it wasn't the listerine. I am thinking it had like vinegar and listerine and water. But I can't remember the other ingredients for sure. He did stop the itching though. :) |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | vet gave me DepoMedrol, sure enough! |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | astreakinchic - 2015-09-17 9:29 AM CrossCreek - 2015-09-17 9:18 AM WARNING!! Vetalog can and will cause a horse to founder! so does dex?
no, dex and depomedrol are fine, but vetalog (if i spelled that correctly) is very dangerous, or so the vets tell me. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | Listeriene can actually burn on their skin
Try BEVS ski repair gel
Bevsequineproducts.com
I have used this stuff as well with much success
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Location: So. California | Have you checked her for a uterine infection? Had a maiden mare with a similar problem, spent $100's with all kinds of different treatments. Finally had her ultrasounded and cultured, she had a low grade infection. Cleared that up, and no more itching... tail or mane. |
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| CrossCreek - 2015-09-18 2:23 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-09-17 9:29 AM CrossCreek - 2015-09-17 9:18 AM WARNING!! Vetalog can and will cause a horse to founder! so does dex?
Dexamethasone in high doses can cause founder, as well with horses who have cushings. |
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Please help! Horse has severe itch, NOTHING (??) helps,