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Tooth root infection/removal surgery-horse
Just Bring It
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Posted 2015-09-22 11:29 AM
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My good mare has a tooth root infection on one of her molars that will require surgery to take it out through her face. Has anyone had this done? If so what was the cost, recovery, scarring, etc? Please let me know your experiences and if you have any referrels. My vet is referring me to the U of M and will be getting back to me with a quote shortly.  

ETA: U of M quoted $1500-$2300 depending on if they can get it out orally or if they have to go through the side of her face. 


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Posted 2015-09-22 12:58 PM
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I'd try to pull the tooth first.
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Bigfoot - 2015-09-22 12:58 PM I'd try to pull the tooth first.

Sounds like they will attempt to pull it first. But even that sounds like it would be $1500!! I have no idea why a tooth extraction would cost that much. I had one done on my property for a training horse that cost a couple hundred. But maybe there is more involved with an infection like this?
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Posted 2015-09-22 1:36 PM
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Yes, I have had this done. The horse was in training with me. They tried to pull it, but unsuccessfully. We had the tooth taken out surgically through the side of the face. I do not remember what the cost was. In West Texas, I bet it was $1000 or less. Recovery was a month or so eating equine senior and it healed up quite nicely. The surgery has several bad potential complications and I wouldn't trust just anyone to do it. Its rather difficult to triangulate the spot to knock out. Good luck.
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Reg. Nov 2013
Posted 2015-09-22 4:28 PM
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Sounds like you're in MN or close by? Message Bailey Webb-Olson on FB, she JUST had this exact procedure done on her horse at the U of M! They first tried to pull it out and then ended up doing surgery because the infection was so bad if my memory serves right.
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-09-22 5:25 PM
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 I have a mare that molar was infected. Vet was able to extract the tooth. She has had no problems. It was around $400
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-09-22 5:39 PM
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cheeka77 - 2015-09-22 4:28 PM Sounds like you're in MN or close by? Message Bailey Webb-Olson on FB, she JUST had this exact procedure done on her horse at the U of M! They first tried to pull it out and then ended up doing surgery because the infection was so bad if my memory serves right.

I am in ND and I was just about to fb her! 
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Posted 2015-09-22 7:21 PM
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How close are you to Sturgis, SD? We had something similar done with my daughters horse. Dr. Ismay did the surgery. It turned out well and the price you were quoted was about the same.
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Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2015-09-22 8:18 PM
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If it abscesses it will be a bad deal. If it is in the bone it may turn into a huge expense and may never heal. It can be a pain to manage too. Packing it and keeping it up. Make sure you get someone really good to evaluate it.

Good luck.
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Posted 2015-09-22 8:56 PM
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We had that too. The infection got into the jaw bone itself and ate it away. We thought it was just a tooth but it actually has just rotted the bone and he had a perpetual abscess that we could not heal. Eventually, we had to put him down.

This was our stud horse, Illini Cactus King. We didn't have him long but he was a very nice barrel producer.

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Posted 2015-09-22 10:45 PM
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Stupid question but I have never dealt with this before.  What are the symptoms to look for with something like this? Is it obvious or can it get really bad before you notice something is wrong?

Best of luck to the OPs mare! 
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Posted 2015-09-22 11:32 PM
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Barnmom - 2015-09-22 10:45 PM

Stupid question but I have never dealt with this before.  What are the symptoms to look for with something like this? Is it obvious or can it get really bad before you notice something is wrong?

Best of luck to the OPs mare! 


You may notice a slight swelling in the jaw/cheek area along with a runny nose and possibly, bad breath. It isn't always easy to tell.

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Posted 2015-09-23 12:06 AM
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Barnmom - 2015-09-22 10:45 PM Stupid question but I have never dealt with this before.  What are the symptoms to look for with something like this? Is it obvious or can it get really bad before you notice something is wrong?



Best of luck to the OPs mare! 

My mare had quite a bit of mucus coming out of one nostril and it had a foul odor. No swelling in her face and didn't act very mouth sore at all. At first I thought it was sinus related but the more I read up on it the more I leaned towards tooth so I took her in for facial xrays. 
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Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-09-23 2:19 AM
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Just Bring It - 2015-09-23 12:06 AM

Barnmom - 2015-09-22 10:45 PM Stupid question but I have never dealt with this before.  What are the symptoms to look for with something like this? Is it obvious or can it get really bad before you notice something is wrong?



Best of luck to the OPs mare! 

My mare had quite a bit of mucus coming out of one nostril and it had a foul odor. No swelling in her face and didn't act very mouth sore at all. At first I thought it was sinus related but the more I read up on it the more I leaned towards tooth so I took her in for facial xrays. 

Hope her procedure and recovery go without a hitch. Good luck
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Posted 2015-09-23 7:26 AM
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Just Bring It - 2015-09-23 12:06 AM

Barnmom - 2015-09-22 10:45 PM Stupid question but I have never dealt with this before.  What are the symptoms to look for with something like this? Is it obvious or can it get really bad before you notice something is wrong?



Best of luck to the OPs mare! 

My mare had quite a bit of mucus coming out of one nostril and it had a foul odor. No swelling in her face and didn't act very mouth sore at all. At first I thought it was sinus related but the more I read up on it the more I leaned towards tooth so I took her in for facial xrays. 

This exact thing happened to my mare. I thought it was sinus at first and honestly the vet could never determine which actually caused the infection in the tooth. A sinus infection that spread or a tooth infection that spread. Anyway, he was able to pull the molar, if he hadn't been able to pull it of course surgery was the next option. He pulled it, packed it and I took her home the next day. She stayed on antibiotics for a month. Took her back to have the packing removed and fortunately, she has been absolutely fine. No problems eating, no more discharge, no flare ups. She had to stay there 6 days just because of my schedule and I think I paid 1200.00 and that included a MRI, the xrays, pulling the molar, meds and boarding.
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Bad breath and sometimes nasal discharge. If infection the nasal discharge will be green and smell. If bad enough, abscess can blow out of the skin and ooze puss.
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Posted 2015-09-23 10:31 AM
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$550 and they went in through the top of his face. Thought it was a sinus infection and it was an abscessed tooth. At the time I was fighting some other issues with him and didn't have the money to do it right away. They said it was fine to leave it be and to schedule something in the next couple months. I waited a few weeks and then had it done.
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FlyingJT - 2015-09-23 10:31 AM $550 and they went in through the top of his face. Thought it was a sinus infection and it was an abscessed tooth. At the time I was fighting some other issues with him and didn't have the money to do it right away. They said it was fine to leave it be and to schedule something in the next couple months. I waited a few weeks and then had it done.

My vet said it would be fine to finish up my runs this fall as well as long as she is comfortable. She has one more shot of Exceed for this round of antibiotics and then I just have to watch for any other signs returning. I have a couple  big runs in October I have been looking forward to all year that I would love to enter but her health is more important. So I am wondering if I should wait until November to schedule something because then the flies would be done with by then as well because right now they are horrible. But I also don't want to risk it getting worse. She currently is happy, eats, drinks, no temp, doesn't seem to be noticeably bothered by it. 
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grinandbareit - 2015-09-22 8:18 PM If it abscesses it will be a bad deal. If it is in the bone it may turn into a huge expense and may never heal. It can be a pain to manage too. Packing it and keeping it up. Make sure you get someone really good to evaluate it. Good luck.

Exactly and if they pull it and it breaks off, you have a whole other set of problems
 
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grinandbareit - 2015-09-22 8:18 PM If it abscesses it will be a bad deal. If it is in the bone it may turn into a huge expense and may never heal. It can be a pain to manage too. Packing it and keeping it up. Make sure you get someone really good to evaluate it. Good luck.
Exactly and if they pull it and it breaks off, you have a whole other set of problems

 

Yeah I am not going to take her to just anyone. The U of M has a lot of experience with this type of issue so I trust them to do a good job.  
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My vet, also does my dental. She had one knocked out and floating his teeth. He had a tusk that was infected. Started talking surgery, and sending him out. I got a pair of slip joint pliers out, and pulled it.
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Posted 2015-09-24 9:01 AM
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Just Bring It - 2015-09-23 10:56 AM

FlyingJT - 2015-09-23 10:31 AM $550 and they went in through the top of his face. Thought it was a sinus infection and it was an abscessed tooth. At the time I was fighting some other issues with him and didn't have the money to do it right away. They said it was fine to leave it be and to schedule something in the next couple months. I waited a few weeks and then had it done.

My vet said it would be fine to finish up my runs this fall as well as long as she is comfortable. She has one more shot of Exceed for this round of antibiotics and then I just have to watch for any other signs returning. I have a couple  big runs in October I have been looking forward to all year that I would love to enter but her health is more important. So I am wondering if I should wait until November to schedule something because then the flies would be done with by then as well because right now they are horrible. But I also don't want to risk it getting worse. She currently is happy, eats, drinks, no temp, doesn't seem to be noticeably bothered by it. 

They told me as long as they are eating, drinking, and don't show signs of discomfort it was fine to leave it. They acted like it was no big deal, just something we needed to take care of in the future. I think if the vets tell you she will be fine to finish out the year, then I would trust them and keep an eye on it, but that's me!
Mine also has a heart murmur, so I hurried and had it removed because I didn't want the tooth effecting his heart and making it worse. I've had several people tell me that they could be related. When I take him back for another EKG we'll really see if they are!
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Just Bring It - 2015-09-23 10:56 AM
FlyingJT - 2015-09-23 10:31 AM $550 and they went in through the top of his face. Thought it was a sinus infection and it was an abscessed tooth. At the time I was fighting some other issues with him and didn't have the money to do it right away. They said it was fine to leave it be and to schedule something in the next couple months. I waited a few weeks and then had it done.
My vet said it would be fine to finish up my runs this fall as well as long as she is comfortable. She has one more shot of Exceed for this round of antibiotics and then I just have to watch for any other signs returning. I have a couple  big runs in October I have been looking forward to all year that I would love to enter but her health is more important. So I am wondering if I should wait until November to schedule something because then the flies would be done with by then as well because right now they are horrible. But I also don't want to risk it getting worse. She currently is happy, eats, drinks, no temp, doesn't seem to be noticeably bothered by it. 
They told me as long as they are eating, drinking, and don't show signs of discomfort it was fine to leave it. They acted like it was no big deal, just something we needed to take care of in the future. I think if the vets tell you she will be fine to finish out the year, then I would trust them and keep an eye on it, but that's me! Mine also has a heart murmur, so I hurried and had it removed because I didn't want the tooth effecting his heart and making it worse. I've had several people tell me that they could be related. When I take him back for another EKG we'll really see if they are!

 Thank you for your replies. My vet did mention possibly putting her on a crumble to keep the infection down once she is done with her Exceed treatment. I am so torn on what to do. I have been looking forward to these runs all year but I also just want her fixed so I can feel a little relief and can stop worrying about her. She seems completely healthy right now though. The Exceed has seemed to clear up her nose discharge quite well. I think I will give my vet one more call to talk about my options some more and if she truly feels she will be fine to hold out for another month. 
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Posted 2015-09-24 12:12 PM
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Maybe this does not work the same way in animals.... but..... Every time I went in with an abscessed tooth, they gave me antibiotics to kill the infection and pulled the tooth at a later date after that was done??
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komet. - 2015-09-24 12:12 PM Maybe this does not work the same way in animals.... but..... Every time I went in with an abscessed tooth, they gave me antibiotics to kill the infection and pulled the tooth at a later date after that was done??

 Well that is what my vet mentioned too. That being on antibiotics for awhile would be helpful before removing it.
 
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