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Location: Somewhere around here | Do you use a back cinch or just leave it bare? What works for you and your horse/s?
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| I have a flex tree so always use a back cinch. |
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Location: London Ontario | I have one on my saddle, always have, I have it tight, but not roper tight. I terrifies me when I see people without the strap that connect to the front cinch or when it is super loose. Why have one? Its just gonna cause a wreck when your horse sticks a back leg thru it
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| You should always have a connector if you use a back cinch?? I hate back cinches myself and will never use one unless absolutely necessary. Way too easy for them to become bucking straps if not put on correctly. I believe if your saddle fits right, you shouldn't need one, treeless or flex trees are the exception (not a fan of those either though).
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| Always use one and make sure its on tight! My saddle fits well but I still feel a lot more comfortable using one. I use on no matter what I am riding. |
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Location: Desert Land | I always use a back cinch and it's always SNUG. if you're not going to have it good and snug, just leave it off. |
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Location: Desert Land | MC1993 - 2015-09-23 9:59 AM I have one on my saddle, always have, I have it tight, but not roper tight. I terrifies me when I see people with the strap that connect to the front cinch or when it is super loose. Why have one? Its just gonna cause a wreck when your horse sticks a back leg thru it
You should ALWAYS see someone using a connector strap when using a back cinch - otherwise they are asking for that back cinch to be a bucking strap. |
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Location: London Ontario | TheOldGrayMare - 2015-09-23 1:13 PM
MC1993 - 2015-09-23 9:59 AM I have one on my saddle, always have, I have it tight, but not roper tight. I terrifies me when I see people with the strap that connect to the front cinch or when it is super loose. Why have one? Its just gonna cause a wreck when your horse sticks a back leg thru it
You should ALWAYS see someone using a connector strap when using a back cinch - otherwise they are asking for that back cinch to be a bucking strap.
Ok serious Typo It's supposed to say WITHOUT the strap!! Duh |
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Location: Desert Land | MC1993 - 2015-09-23 10:15 AM TheOldGrayMare - 2015-09-23 1:13 PM MC1993 - 2015-09-23 9:59 AM I have one on my saddle, always have, I have it tight, but not roper tight. I terrifies me when I see people with the strap that connect to the front cinch or when it is super loose. Why have one? Its just gonna cause a wreck when your horse sticks a back leg thru it You should ALWAYS see someone using a connector strap when using a back cinch - otherwise they are asking for that back cinch to be a bucking strap. Ok serious Typo It's supposed to say WITHOUT the strap!! Duh
Oh good...WHEW! I was a little concerned there. LOL |
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| MC1993 - 2015-09-23 1:15 PM
TheOldGrayMare - 2015-09-23 1:13 PM
MC1993 - 2015-09-23 9:59 AM I have one on my saddle, always have, I have it tight, but not roper tight. I terrifies me when I see people with the strap that connect to the front cinch or when it is super loose. Why have one? Its just gonna cause a wreck when your horse sticks a back leg thru it
You should ALWAYS see someone using a connector strap when using a back cinch - otherwise they are asking for that back cinch to be a bucking strap.
Ok serious Typo It's supposed to say WITHOUT the strap!! Duh
Haha, I was like...What? You want a bucking horse? haha That makes sense now. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I have saddles with and without a back cinch. I have had some horses come in that I throw a saddle on with the back cinch and they decide to kick out or buck with me in protest. So, I end up switching saddles and they are happy in their world again. The majority of the horses I ride really don't care. I like the back cinch.
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Location: North Dakota | I've been thinking about this lately. I was trained to use a reasonably snug back cinch my whole life. But I was watching the last season of Racer's Edge a few weeks ago, and I noticed a LOT of girls weren't using back cinches. So I started watching how much their saddles moved when they were turning and such. On ALL horses the saddles lifted a couple inches when going around barrels. Regardless of whether or not they had a back cinch. I really don't like back cinches because they get in the way of my leg aids and have contemplated taking mine off for good. IMO unless you're roping steers or something, having a back cinch won't do any harm but definitely is not a necessity. |
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Location: between here and there | Horses have 60% of their weight shoulder forward. If you aren't using a back cinch snugged up, you are making them heavier on the
frontend. Collection is harder for them to do properly. I don't ride any saddle on any horse without one. They need to use them like
they learned to ride with a saddle, a bit and a rider. I feel it's not an option.
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| Used to always ride with a back girth but bought new saddles none of them have a back girth so I never use them any more. Even my Josey Ultimate came without one. |
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Location: Phoenix | I always ride with one, and it's on the tighter side of snug. It takes the pressure off the withers and I don't have to cinch up the front so much. |
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Location: Louisiana | Agreed. Always use one, and even if I'm just walking around it's snug. When I run it's tight. When I've bought saddles without, that's the first accessory I order for it! |
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Location: West Texas | wimpyb - 2015-09-23 7:00 PM
Horses have 60% of their weight shoulder forward. If you aren't using a back cinch snugged up, you are making them heavier on the
frontend. Collection is harder for them to do properly. I don't ride any saddle on any horse without one. They need to use them like
they learned to ride with a saddle, a bit and a rider. I feel it's not an option.
I agree with what you said. I "prefer" a back cinch always, from first saddling to last.  |
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Location: NE Texas | I have one saddle that does have a back cinch and one saddle that I removed the back cinch out of necessity. One of my horses was always very sensitive even to just brush in that area and it aggravated him and he would not collect up through his body or stretch out and reach. I've had the horse since he was 6 months old, and he'd had a back cinch on since the first day I started saddleing him, except for when we sent him to the track. I do have the sensitivity issue solved, however I have not added the back cinch or billets back on his particular saddle, as I don't want to fix what isn't broken at this point, as it's been a roller coaster ride with him already...he's just a weirdo.
I do prefer the look of having a back cinch, but if a saddle fits properly and is balanced, it's not a make or break deal for me to have one on there honestly. I try to do what my horse seems most comfortable with, and if that is to lose the back cinch, then i'm ok with that.
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Location: Kansas | I won't ride without one, I have a roper front and back cinch |
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| Tdove - 2015-09-24 8:42 AM
wimpyb - 2015-09-23 7:00 PM
Horses have 60% of their weight shoulder forward. If you aren't using a back cinch snugged up, you are making them heavier on the
frontend. Collection is harder for them to do properly. I don't ride any saddle on any horse without one. They need to use them like
they learned to ride with a saddle, a bit and a rider. I feel it's not an option.
I agree with what you said. I "prefer" a back cinch always, from first saddling to last.
Yep, what ya'll said! |
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-09-23 10:21 AM
I've been thinking about this lately. I was trained to use a reasonably snug back cinch my whole life. But I was watching the last season of Racer's Edge a few weeks ago, and I noticed a LOT of girls weren't using back cinches. So I started watching how much their saddles moved when they were turning and such. On ALL horses the saddles lifted a couple inches when going around barrels. Regardless of whether or not they had a back cinch. I really don't like back cinches because they get in the way of my leg aids and have contemplated taking mine off for good. IMO unless you're roping steers or something, having a back cinch won't do any harm but definitely is not a necessity.
I've gotten my spur caught in the buckle before, that's not fun. I do not use one on my main horse because she got grumpy when you tightened it up. This horse would like to run with no cinch if she could lol |
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Location: Paradise , tx | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-09-23 12:21 PM I've been thinking about this lately. I was trained to use a reasonably snug back cinch my whole life. But I was watching the last season of Racer's Edge a few weeks ago, and I noticed a LOT of girls weren't using back cinches. So I started watching how much their saddles moved when they were turning and such. On ALL horses the saddles lifted a couple inches when going around barrels. Regardless of whether or not they had a back cinch. I really don't like back cinches because they get in the way of my leg aids and have contemplated taking mine off for good. IMO unless you're roping steers or something, having a back cinch won't do any harm but definitely is not a necessity. I agree with you, my husband and I have watch many runs and we noticed the same thing, all the saddles, with or without back girths, popped up in back. as they turned the barrels. I also agree that girths get in the way of your leg aids. But things tend to go in cycles, just like tie-downs did for awhile, Some said always use tie downs, some said never. Also like all the different opions of tree less saddles, which I have rode in for about 20 years I love them- some love them, some hate them. All boils down what works for you.
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Location: Phoenix | The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought. |
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Location: MD | hammer_time - 2015-09-24 8:23 PM
The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought.
I can guarantee you that my hiney stays pretty solidly in the tack. No catching air and slamming down on a horse's back here. I do have a few that are so worky that their back become contorted to the point that there simply isn't as much back for that saddle to sit on as when they are on the straights and you will see the back of my saddle rise as the turn happens. |
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Location: Phoenix | WrapSnap - 2015-09-24 7:03 PM hammer_time - 2015-09-24 8:23 PM The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought. I can guarantee you that my hiney stays pretty solidly in the tack. No catching air and slamming down on a horse's back here. I do have a few that are so worky that their back become contorted to the point that there simply isn't as much back for that saddle to sit on as when they are on the straights and you will see the back of my saddle rise as the turn happens.
Yes but there are MANY who don't ride as well as you Wrap! :) |
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Location: North of the 49th Parallel | I've never ridden with one but my Meleta has one. I had a heck of a time this summer trying to get used it. I use a lot of leg, coming from a reining background and it gets in the way too much for me. I won't take it off but if I ordered a new saddle, I probably wouldnt have one. |
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Location: North Dakota | Also, how tight is tight for you guys? Cause if it's tight enough to take any pressure off the front of the saddle, it seems like that would interfere with their breathing. My horse's tummy expands and contracts a lot when he's breathing hard. |
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Location: MD | WrapSnap - 2015-09-24 9:03 PM hammer_time - 2015-09-24 8:23 PM The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought. I can guarantee you that my hiney stays pretty solidly in the tack. No catching air and slamming down on a horse's back here. I do have a few that are so worky that their back become contorted to the point that there simply isn't as much back for that saddle to sit on as when they are on the straights and you will see the back of my saddle rise as the turn happens.
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Location: between here and there | Everyone can do whatever they feel is right. Whatever works for you is fine and you don't need to explain it to anyone. For the one wanting to know how snug, I can still easily run my fingers under mine on the front and the back. I just don't want to see it hanging down.
It isn't your butt that keeps a saddle down tho either. It's the dynamics of your horse moving. When you turn even a short distance the saddle will turn the opposite direction putting more pressure on the front cinch. |
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Location: MD | CE's wrapn3 - 2015-09-25 7:09 AM
WrapSnap - 2015-09-24 9:03 PM hammer_time - 2015-09-24 8:23 PM The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought. I can guarantee you that my hiney stays pretty solidly in the tack. No catching air and slamming down on a horse's back here. I do have a few that are so worky that their back become contorted to the point that there simply isn't as much back for that saddle to sit on as when they are on the straights and you will see the back of my saddle rise as the turn happens.
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| hammer_time - 2015-09-24 9:06 PM
WrapSnap - 2015-09-24 7:03 PM hammer_time - 2015-09-24 8:23 PM The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought. I can guarantee you that my hiney stays pretty solidly in the tack. No catching air and slamming down on a horse's back here. I do have a few that are so worky that their back become contorted to the point that there simply isn't as much back for that saddle to sit on as when they are on the straights and you will see the back of my saddle rise as the turn happens.
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Back cinch or no back cinch?