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| It's unfortunate we have to worry about these things! I do put my name and phone number on my stall...because if something happens, I would hope a good person would call me if I am not right there. I see a lot of people leave there tack outside their stall...I don't do that, I always take it back to the trailer and lock it up. It's too expensive to risk it. I think the best thing is to be diligent and pay attention to your surroundings. Stick with your gut if something doesn't feel right. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | What do you mean by sabotage? Like drugging a horse or something like that? |
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Location: That part of Texas | Don't be afraid to write down a name and number on your stall - just make sure it's the right one like "Guido" or "YourWorstNightmare". You know, one's that make them think twice. |
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Location: Oregon | Red Raider - 2015-09-30 8:21 AM Don't be afraid to write down a name and number on your stall - just make sure it's the right one like "Guido" or "YourWorstNightmare". You know, one's that make them think twice.
Hahaha did I mention my brand is brass knuckles? Because really, who wants to steal that horse when there's probably one right next door with flowers or hearts |
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| Bear - 2015-09-30 11:11 AM
What do you mean by sabotage? Like drugging a horse or something like that?
We had someone put cocaine in my horse's water and feed bucket one time.... It's no joke. Pretty awful what some people will do to winning horses. |
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Location: Oregon | FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-09-30 8:33 AM
Bear - 2015-09-30 11:11 AM
What do you mean by sabotage? Like drugging a horse or something like that?
We had someone put cocaine in my horse's water and feed bucket one time.... It's no joke. Pretty awful what some people will do to winning horses.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | All that to prevent someone from winning a dam barrel race? That's really amazing. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Bear - 2015-09-30 11:52 AM All that to prevent someone from winning a dam barrel race? That's really amazing.
We actually had someone do this to my kids show hogs at the fair. Still won grand champion though. But we had to get the authorities involved because the hogs were tested at the end. Sad, what people do. |
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Location: White Mountains of AZ | I do make sure I padlock the stall. I'm usually always there camping out by the stalls and check on them throughout the night... ( I can be paranoid ). I do put my name and number just in case I wasn't there and somebody needed to call me. |
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| We were at an all district show several years ago (probably 5 or more) and the 2 girls that placed at the top were from our district. We were in a different district for the show.
One girls brand new truck was keyed and the winning girl found a board nails up in the stall. The board was different than any of the barn boards around the stall, so the horse did not rip it off. |
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Location: London Ontario | We have two German Shepherds. My female comes with me everywhere, like never leaves my side...even when I want to pee...annoying BUT she will rip your face off if she needs too. She is the most protective dog I have ever had. She is amazing with kids, horses and other dogs, but is very sensitive to the environment and my energy - as corny as that sounds. If I ever feel threatened or scared, she is right there looking out for me.
We had a drunk guy try to get in our trailer one night thinking it was his, thank god I was still awake and was able to call her off before she did any damage to the guy, but heaven knows she would have. Our dogs have an on/off switch from aggressive to normal and use it when we need them too.
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Location: Southern Oregon | FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-09-30 8:33 AM
Bear - 2015-09-30 11:11 AM
What do you mean by sabotage? Like drugging a horse or something like that?
We had someone put cocaine in my horse's water and feed bucket one time.... It's no joke. Pretty awful what some people will do to winning horses.
ummmm good thing you caught that....that would of been one WILD ride lmao. |
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| Bear - 2015-09-30 10:52 AM
All that to prevent someone from winning a dam barrel race? That's really amazing.
Been happening for ages. 25 years ago someone gave a bull dogging horse an overdose of ace at a college rodeo to try to prevent a kid from winning the region. |
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| Bear - 2015-09-30 11:52 AM
All that to prevent someone from winning a dam barrel race? That's really amazing.
The cocaine actually happened at a 4H event..... and I have my suspect of who did it, but couldn't prove it. My poor all around mare has had some real CRAP done to her by jealous people over the years. She's had people cut her, try to poison her, open her stall and try to let her loose.... One time I left her for 5 minutes at a 4H event to run to the bathroom (this was before the cocaine incident), I came back and her leg was swollen 4x the normal size with abrasions on it (like someone hit her with something metal is what it looked like)..... Again, 'no one' saw anything. 
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| I would NOT recommend padlocking your horse in the stall. Your horse is trapped in the stall if there is ever an emergency and you're not around. Had this happen at our state show once and, long story short, owner wasn't around and horse was padlocked in the stall and ended up dying in an emergency situation.
If anything camp out at your stall if its that bad or put up security cameras. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-09-30 3:21 PM
Bear - 2015-09-30 11:52 AM
All that to prevent someone from winning a dam barrel race? That's really amazing.
The cocaine actually happened at a 4H event..... and I have my suspect of who did it, but couldn't prove it. My poor all around mare has had some real CRAP done to her by jealous people over the years. She's had people cut her, try to poison her, open her stall and try to let her loose.... One time I left her for 5 minutes at a 4H event to run to the bathroom (this was before the cocaine incident ), I came back and her leg was swollen 4x the normal size with abrasions on it (like someone hit her with something metal is what it looked like )..... Again, 'no one' saw anything.
Luckily, she's such a picky eater that she's never ingested anything that we know of that people have tried to give her.
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | I don't keep anything at my stalls, especially feed. And I try to keep my horse at the trailer during weekend events as much as possible. And sporatically check on her in her stall. People suck. |
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Location: WI | I've never had a problem with it. I keep all my tack in the aisle as well. |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | Yeah - I second the post above about not padlocking stalls...too much risk in an emergency or fire situation. Unless you can get a friend or family member (or hire someone) to stand guard there will always be a risk. There are some pretty crappy people in this world no doubt. When I was a kid my parents would haul my awesome pony home from the fair every night just to keep the drunk weirdoes and punk kids from potentially doing anything harmful. There had been instances of people throwing trash and cigarettes in stalls, letting horses loose, etc. And yeah, this was just 4-H too and talking a good 20 years ago. If I had a decent horse I would highly consider using a video camera. If nothing else it is a deterrent...usually thieves and such want easy targets. Even if it's not running it's still a nice visual deterrent that will make most people think twice. Although I certainly wouldn't tell anyone it's not live if you choose that route lol! As for everything else aside from the horse....lock, lock, lock. If it's super valuable - you may just want to leave it at home... |
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | I haven't had anything happen to my horse (knock on wood), but I have been to bigger shows and have seen people hanging trail cams in the corner of the stalls just as a deterent. And no they are not hidden out of site. I wouldn't lock my stall, too much risk in case of an emergency. I usually just hang my phone number on the outside of my stall. No name, just the number. And of course no feed or tack gets left at the stall. A few extra trips back n forth to the trailer are not a bad thing. |
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| Wow, some of these stories. The worst thing I can remember from my 4-H days was someone was going around loosening cinches at a show.
The whole thing at NBHA Youth World with the teens "mistakenly" moving another competitor's horse so she'd miss her run still boggles my mind.
I also read something about a woman whose horse was sprinkled with some kind of acidic powder that reacted with water. When she went to spray off/bathe her horse, the acid reacted and started eating away at the horse's skin. I can't remember if it was on here or another forum. Does anyone else remember this?
People are nuckin futs.
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| threecanman - 2015-09-30 4:21 PM
I would NOT recommend padlocking your horse in the stall. Your horse is trapped in the stall if there is ever an emergency and you're not around. Had this happen at our state show once and, long story short, owner wasn't around and horse was padlocked in the stall and ended up dying in an emergency situation.
If anything camp out at your stall if its that bad or put up security cameras.
That is what I was going to say.
I think know the incident you are talking about, and that was a freaky thing, but there could be a fire or anything. |
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Location: Oregon | MC1993 - 2015-09-30 10:06 AM We have two German Shepherds. My female comes with me everywhere, like never leaves my side...even when I want to pee...annoying BUT she will rip your face off if she needs too. She is the most protective dog I have ever had. She is amazing with kids, horses and other dogs, but is very sensitive to the environment and my energy - as corny as that sounds. If I ever feel threatened or scared, she is right there looking out for me. We had a drunk guy try to get in our trailer one night thinking it was his, thank god I was still awake and was able to call her off before she did any damage to the guy, but heaven knows she would have. Our dogs have an on/off switch from aggressive to normal and use it when we need them too. When we aren't at our trailer, but cant take our dogs with us, we leave them on a very long tie out. The hubby is also a mechanic so can mess with your truck and trailer without you knowing....thankfully he never would...but can:) A long tie out on a dog (especially a breed like a GSD, Rottweiler, Pit, etc) and is described by it's owner as you just described your dog is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If she ever does bite anyone and you've left her tied to your trailer you are going to get your ass sued off. Plus what if someone is just walking by your rig? I've been bit at a rodeo by a dog tied to a trailer that came out of nowhere, I was just walking by close to the trailer.
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| You just love to tell it that way, don't you? I was just trying to get away from the chihuahua! LOL
Seriously though, that dog came out of nowhere. He was not friendly. If I remember correctly the owner locked him in the trailer after that.
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-09-30 3:21 PM Bear - 2015-09-30 11:52 AM All that to prevent someone from winning a dam barrel race? That's really amazing. The cocaine actually happened at a 4H event..... and I have my suspect of who did it, but couldn't prove it. My poor all around mare has had some real CRAP done to her by jealous people over the years. She's had people cut her, try to poison her, open her stall and try to let her loose.... One time I left her for 5 minutes at a 4H event to run to the bathroom (this was before the cocaine incident ), I came back and her leg was swollen 4x the normal size with abrasions on it (like someone hit her with something metal is what it looked like )..... Again, 'no one' saw anything. Luckily, she's such a picky eater that she's never ingested anything that we know of that people have tried to give her.
I didn't realize 4-H was cut throat. I thought you only got ribbons. Who would terrorize a horse for some 4-H ribbons? |
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| It seems like I remember reading here on BHW about a horse being stolen from a barrel race at Hardy Murphy in Ardmore OK by some match horse race people. The barrel racer had some help finding the horse and I do believe got the horse back. Anyone remember that or am I just telling a tall tale? |
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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well... Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. |
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| Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 8:29 PM Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well... Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe.
Did they inject a drug or were they not able to get that done? Scary! |
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| sodapop - 2015-09-30 9:17 PM
FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-09-30 3:21 PM Bear - 2015-09-30 11:52 AM All that to prevent someone from winning a dam barrel race? That's really amazing. The cocaine actually happened at a 4H event..... and I have my suspect of who did it, but couldn't prove it. My poor all around mare has had some real CRAP done to her by jealous people over the years. She's had people cut her, try to poison her, open her stall and try to let her loose.... One time I left her for 5 minutes at a 4H event to run to the bathroom (this was before the cocaine incident ), I came back and her leg was swollen 4x the normal size with abrasions on it (like someone hit her with something metal is what it looked like )..... Again, 'no one' saw anything. Luckily, she's such a picky eater that she's never ingested anything that we know of that people have tried to give her.
That is a very good question. The person I suspected has always tried to do dirty things to my horses to try to beat me because I'm a better rider and trainer than them, and it made them made that they were always second place to me. Only thing I could think of. |
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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | sodapop - 2015-09-30 7:33 PM Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 8:29 PM Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well... Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. Did they inject a drug or were they not able to get that done? Scary!
The vet wouldn't come see my horse for almost half an hour and I was not allowed to call another vet to the grounds. She acted lethargic, didn't have depth perception it seemed. The other barrel horse got the worst end of it, he lost his coat in most areas of his body and was very very sick for a long time. It makes my blood boil that people will win at any measure.. To walk into a horses stall with I'll intent such as that. You have a problem with me doing well then take it up with ME not my animal. |
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| komet. - 2015-09-30 4:29 PM
FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-09-30 3:21 PM
Bear - 2015-09-30 11:52 AM
All that to prevent someone from winning a dam barrel race? That's really amazing.
The cocaine actually happened at a 4H event..... and I have my suspect of who did it, but couldn't prove it. My poor all around mare has had some real CRAP done to her by jealous people over the years. She's had people cut her, try to poison her, open her stall and try to let her loose.... One time I left her for 5 minutes at a 4H event to run to the bathroom (this was before the cocaine incident ), I came back and her leg was swollen 4x the normal size with abrasions on it (like someone hit her with something metal is what it looked like )..... Again, 'no one' saw anything.
Luckily, she's such a picky eater that she's never ingested anything that we know of that people have tried to give her.
What could cause it to swell that fast?
Her legs were already sensitive, but it looked like blunt trauma of some sort because it continued to swell and stay swollen for days afterwards, and had a strange pattern to it. She was unridable and stall ridden for a week following it. No other horses were tied next to her so she didn't get kicked. No one came forward about it, so from then on out, there was someone watching her at all times, we were the first people in and last people out. |
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Location: NC | How to prevent sabotage?
Easy. Stay in the 3/4D. No one gives a snot about the not so fast weekend warriors. No need to camp out when no one even knows your name!!
Seriously though. People need to get the heck out of competition if cheating is their only way of winning.
And most arenas I've been to have a rule against padlocks on stalls with horses in them. You can lock your tack stall but no locks on horse stalls. At least that's what I've been told. |
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Location: Kansas | sodapop - 2015-09-30 8:13 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-09-30 10:00 AM boobie traps. Like a big bra? LOL
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Location: Got Lobsta? | If I had a $1.00 for everytime someone calls in to buy an item that was stolen at a horse show I'd finally have my indoor arena! It just sickens me how people steal tack, take bits right off of the headstall, (bits are a HUGE Item stolen) and equipment damaged. |
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Location: TN | I always worried about some one stealing my sorrel mare when a way at big shows. Any one could enter the fair grounds with 2 or 3 sale barn horses and leave with some great horses cuz all they check is "a sorrel or bay horse" when you leave.
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| purplemoon828 - 2015-09-30 3:52 PM
Wasn't Brittany Pozzi horse just recently taken out of it's stall by a bunch of teenagers and ridden around downtown or did I dream that up?
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Location: Missouri | After reading all of these, it makes me not ever want to go to another over night show!! What bugs me is that stall assignments are posted publicly for everyone to see. I think that they should be private and only shown if you have an ID or emailed to that contestant. Cheaters are scary people. They have no sense of wrong and will do ANYTHING to win. |
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Location: Montana | Friend of mine had her beautiful palomino and white spray painted and they also took Hoof Black and wrote nasty names all over her at county fair. They also chopped her mane and tail off. My friend had worked so hard, to even get that horse ready for fair since her other horse had coliced and died two months prior. When I go to over nighters which is few, I rig up something to keep my buckets at the back of the stall because I have seen even 3d/4d horses get sabotaged. I also stay with her as much as possible. |
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| I heard about this, pathetic what they will do & they are NFR qualifiers that people think are the most amazing people. Just imagine what they give their own horses to work.
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| Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 8:29 PM Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well... Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe.
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Location: Where Tall Corn Grows | Nateracer - 2015-09-30 12:02 PM
We were at an all district show several years ago (probably 5 or more) and the 2 girls that placed at the top were from our district. We were in a different district for the show.
One girls brand new truck was keyed and the winning girl found a board nails up in the stall. The board was different than any of the barn boards around the stall, so the horse did not rip it off.
Was this in Denison, Iowa? If so I remember this happening. Made us all be on the look out. We tied the horses to the trailer after that. |
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Location: North Dakota | scwebster - 2015-10-01 1:03 PM Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 8:29 PM Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well... Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. Very interesting. I wish you could spill.
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Location: Kansas and loving it | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-10-01 3:40 PM
scwebster - 2015-10-01 1:03 PM Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 8:29 PM Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well... Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. Very interesting. I wish you could spill.
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| Karlaw - 2015-10-01 1:54 PM
I heard about this, pathetic what they will do & they are NFR qualifiers that people think are the most amazing people. Just imagine what they give their own horses to work.
As for the horse who had cocaine added to its water.... there was a very well known Futurity rider whos horse overdosed and died from Coke.....he gives it to his horses to make them "perform" better.
Well I can promise you that we didn't give our already hot headed mare cocainel.... LOL, We don't need to cheat to win at 4H shows. Children are encouraged to do this stuff which is just awful.
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| Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 7:29 PM
Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well... Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe.
It always amazes me how the general public puts those NFR people on a pedestal. While some are very nice and down to earth, others... not so much. Then when someone makes a sort of negative comment, people come unglued defending these superstars. There was a post here last year asking who you would like to travel with for a week to learn from. I'm reading the names going nice, slut, abuser, b!tch, nice, needle queen, nice. I'm really sorry you went through that with your nice mare. People really suck at times. |
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Location: CTX | MC1993 - 2015-10-02 7:21 AM WOW! I never knew this about some of the girls. I figured they all couldn't be angels but never got that from most of them...now I am dying to know!!!!!!
I know, right!! Now I am curious too!!
I understand they can't all be goody 2 shoes, but to get to that level you would at least care about animals enough not to want to hurt them, even if it wasn't your own..... |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-10-01 7:50 PM
Karlaw - 2015-10-01 1:54 PM
I heard about this, pathetic what they will do & they are NFR qualifiers that people think are the most amazing people. Just imagine what they give their own horses to work.
As for the horse who had cocaine added to its water.... there was a very well known Futurity rider whos horse overdosed and died from Coke.....he gives it to his horses to make them "perform" better.
Well I can promise you that we didn't give our already hot headed mare cocainel.... LOL, We don't need to cheat to win at 4H shows. Children are encouraged to do this stuff which is just awful.
Its really sad what people will do. I have NEVER had anything like this happen & the worst I have heard about here was people un-tying horses from trailers but I did buy the baby monitors with video on them so I can put it in his stall and watch mine all night, it was more for my piece of mind as I am up with every little sound I hear. |
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| cowgirl_3207 - 2015-09-30 1:25 PM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-09-30 8:33 AM Bear - 2015-09-30 11:11 AM What do you mean by sabotage? Like drugging a horse or something like that? We had someone put cocaine in my horse's water and feed bucket one time.... It's no joke. Pretty awful what some people will do to winning horses. ummmm good thing you caught that....that would of been one WILD ride lmao.
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| cranky B4 10am - 2015-10-02 7:28 AM
MC1993 - 2015-10-02 7:21 AM WOW! I never knew this about some of the girls. I figured they all couldn't be angels but never got that from most of them...now I am dying to know!!!!!!
I know, right!! Now I am curious too!!
I understand they can't all be goody 2 shoes, but to get to that level you would at least care about animals enough not to want to hurt them, even if it wasn't your own.....
Nope, to some of them they are just a means to an end. It's the game they love, not the animals. I am by no means saying they are all like that, but as in society, there always a few that are in it for themselves only. |
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Location: Paradise , tx | hlynn - 2015-09-30 9:52 PM How to prevent sabotage? Easy. Stay in the 3/4D. No one gives a snot about the not so fast weekend warriors. No need to camp out when no one even knows your name!! Seriously though. People need to get the heck out of competition if cheating is their only way of winning. And most arenas I've been to have a rule against padlocks on stalls with horses in them. You can lock your tack stall but no locks on horse stalls. At least that's what I've been told.
Or just compete locally.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | SKM - 2015-10-02 5:09 AM Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 7:29 PM Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well... Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. It always amazes me how the general public puts those NFR people on a pedestal. While some are very nice and down to earth, others... not so much. Then when someone makes a sort of negative comment, people come unglued defending these superstars. There was a post here last year asking who you would like to travel with for a week to learn from. I'm reading the names going nice, slut, abuser, b!tch, nice, needle queen, nice. I'm really sorry you went through that with your nice mare. People really suck at times.
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | crapshooter - 2015-09-30 2:35 PM
MC1993 - 2015-09-30 10:06 AM We have two German Shepherds. My female comes with me everywhere, like never leaves my side...even when I want to pee...annoying BUT she will rip your face off if she needs too. She is the most protective dog I have ever had. She is amazing with kids, horses and other dogs, but is very sensitive to the environment and my energy - as corny as that sounds. If I ever feel threatened or scared, she is right there looking out for me. We had a drunk guy try to get in our trailer one night thinking it was his, thank god I was still awake and was able to call her off before she did any damage to the guy, but heaven knows she would have. Our dogs have an on/off switch from aggressive to normal and use it when we need them too. When we aren't at our trailer, but cant take our dogs with us, we leave them on a very long tie out. The hubby is also a mechanic so can mess with your truck and trailer without you knowing....thankfully he never would...but can:) A long tie out on a dog (especially a breed like a GSD, Rottweiler, Pit, etc) and is described by it's owner as you just described your dog is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If she ever does bite anyone and you've left her tied to your trailer you are going to get your ass sued off. Plus what if someone is just walking by your rig? I've been bit at a rodeo by a dog tied to a trailer that came out of nowhere, I was just walking by close to the trailer.
eta: turner1 pushed me in front of that dog to save herself!
I'm all for the protection of a dog but it's a pet peeve when I walk my dog, who also protects me, past other trailers so she can do her 'business' and I'm minding my own as well and I get 'attacked'. |
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Location: CTX | GLP - 2015-10-02 9:58 AM cranky B4 10am - 2015-10-02 7:28 AM MC1993 - 2015-10-02 7:21 AM WOW! I never knew this about some of the girls. I figured they all couldn't be angels but never got that from most of them...now I am dying to know!!!!!! I know, right!! Now I am curious too!!
I understand they can't all be goody 2 shoes, but to get to that level you would at least care about animals enough not to want to hurt them, even if it wasn't your own..... Nope, to some of them they are just a means to an end. It's the game they love, not the animals. I am by no means saying they are all like that, but as in society, there always a few that are in it for themselves only.
Wow, that is truly sad. And to think that a lot of people look up to these individuals....
I don't go overnight a lot (maybe 2-3 times a year) and I always bring my heeler with me, she is tied to the trailer and will not let anyone close to it when I am not there. The only time she growls is when dogs run around off leash..... and if she ever bites one, I will not be sorry. Every arena I've been to so far has a sign posted that dogs need to be on a leash. If you can't comply then you don't have any reason to complain.
Would I like for her to bite another dog, of course not. But don't let your dog run free, and than blame me for having a guard dog tied to my trailer. There have been enough examples of things going missing.... It is sad enough as it is that tack gets stolen from a horse!! I have padlocks on every door. End even that will not deter some people... so she helps me to keep my stuff where it belongs!
Now, this whole post makes me want to keep my horse at the trailer as well. But since some arena's don't allow that I guess I will be investing some money in a security camera soon! |
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Location: Oregon | Well be forewarned if your dog bites someone or even another dog at the race you are liable and you can be sued. |
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Location: London Ontario | If someone tries to break into my truck or trailer and my dog bites them, I will be sued? Hmmmm..... |
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Location: Oregon | MC1993 - 2015-10-02 1:30 PM If someone tries to break into my truck or trailer and my dog bites them, I will be sued? Hmmmm.....
Seriously? If your dog bites anyone anywhere you can be sued. Especially in a public place. Plus they can put your dog down. The person isn't going to confess they were trying to steal your crap.
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| You can be good at playing the "game" but you will never be good enough to out run karma! Hurting an animal or even killing one on purpose, there's the man upstairs you can't ever hide from! Horses are amazing and God sent. If more people had a heart like their horses, there wouldn't be a problem. |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | crapshooter - 2015-10-02 6:20 PM
MC1993 - 2015-10-02 1:30 PM If someone tries to break into my truck or trailer and my dog bites them, I will be sued? Hmmmm.....
Seriously? If your dog bites anyone anywhere you can be sued. Especially in a public place. Plus they can put your dog down. The person isn't going to confess they were trying to steal your crap.
I have to carry extra insurance with my homeowners policy. If someone driving by decides to stop and pet my horse and gets bit or kicked, I am covered. |
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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | SKM - 2015-10-02 4:09 AM
Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 7:29 PM
Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well... Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe.
It always amazes me how the general public puts those NFR people on a pedestal. While some are very nice and down to earth, others... not so much. Then when someone makes a sort of negative comment, people come unglued defending these superstars. There was a post here last year asking who you would like to travel with for a week to learn from. I'm reading the names going nice, slut, abuser, b!tch, nice, needle queen, nice. I'm really sorry you went through that with your nice mare. People really suck at times.
Haha so funny and so true! I found out those who everyone looks up to are some that should not be looked up to at all. I will say Lindsey Sears was very nice and always had a. Smile for anyone walking past her no matter if it was early slack or off time. Others- straight up rotten dogs lol. Some of you know how horrible one NFR girl always is and those who haven't been around her in a competition setting with a good horse under you think she's a good person.
Something to take from this post- don't trust people bc they win.. Some are good and some are harmful to you and your horses. I will NOT mention names |
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Location: Arkansas | abuffalo27 - 2015-10-03 9:52 AM
You can be good at playing the "game" but you will never be good enough to out run karma! Hurting an animal or even killing one on purpose, there's the man upstairs you can't ever hide from! Horses are amazing and God sent. If more people had a heart like their horses, there wouldn't be a problem.
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Location: Oklahoma | MC1993 - 2015-10-02 3:30 PM
If someone tries to break into my truck or trailer and my dog bites them, I will be sued? Hmmmm.....
Yes, you will. I had my heeler tied exactly like you said, and she couldn't reach you unless you were within a foot of the trailer. Shavings sales person across the street SAW the people try to open my tack room and my dog bite them and he told the police that. Didn't matter. I came back from my run and there were police cars at my trailer, as the gal she bit had called them. They pressed charges, and sued. My insurance company paid her, and my insurance went up. All the dog did was tear her pants. Later, the same lady was arrested as part of a tack stealing ring....they found tons of saddles and tack at her place that had been stolen.....yet my insurance company had to pay her because she sued before she got caught for stealing. There's no doubt in my mind she was trying to steal my tack. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Also, the year the horse in my avatar won Drysdales Super Show, the video person came and told me that a guy from the east coast was buying all my videos of him, and to keep an eye out. Then the gal stalled next to me told me a guy kept coming by and looking at him in the stall (which I already had a bike lock on it), so my husband and I took turns staying in front of his stall the whole night. Idk if he had any idea of stealing him, but I knew he could take him to the east coast, sell him for grade and still get good money for him, so I decided to just stay with him. |
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | dianeguinn - 2015-10-03 7:14 PM
Also, the year the horse in my avatar won Drysdales Super Show, the video person came and told me that a guy from the east coast was buying all my videos of him, and to keep an eye out. Then the gal stalled next to me told me a guy kept coming by and looking at him in the stall (which I already had a bike lock on it), so my husband and I took turns staying in front of his stall the whole night. Idk if he had any idea of stealing him, but I knew he could take him to the east coast, sell him for grade and still get good money for him, so I decided to just stay with him.
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Location: west of East Texas | About getting sued... My very docile, very socialized, very tolerant Great Dane went everywhere with me. Would sit in the stands by herself while I rode if that's where I told her to sit. She went college classes with me every day and made her rounds saying hi and met me back at the truck when class was over. She visited all over the neighborhood whenever the kids were out playing (they came and got her). But she had two rules... don't touch my truck and don't touch the mobile home I lived in then. She bit the cable guy in the butt while he was down on his knees looking at her puppies under my house. He was turning on the cable at another residence, had no business in my yard, but came over to see her pups, entered my yard while I was not home. He sued. He won. |
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Location: Oklahoma | barrelracer1983 - 2015-10-03 9:54 PM
dianeguinn - 2015-10-03 7:14 PM
Also, the year the horse in my avatar won Drysdales Super Show, the video person came and told me that a guy from the east coast was buying all my videos of him, and to keep an eye out. Then the gal stalled next to me told me a guy kept coming by and looking at him in the stall (which I already had a bike lock on it), so my husband and I took turns staying in front of his stall the whole night. Idk if he had any idea of stealing him, but I knew he could take him to the east coast, sell him for grade and still get good money for him, so I decided to just stay with him.
You don't think he was just a fan?
I didn't know what to think. At that time, I was pretty naive. The video person is the one who warned me and told me it was sketchy. Videos in the late 90's weren't cheap. He bought about $75 worth of my videos and wanted her to look up any she had of me from previous shows. I'd say that's either a pretty rabid fan or a stalker, if he wasn't looking to steal my horse. At a big show in Memphis later that year, a horse was stolen that looked almost identical to mine, but it had a blanket on, and mine had a brand. The guy just walked out with her, and they never got her back. Personally, no, in hindsight, I don't think he was just a fan. |
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Location: sunny california | I was warned tht someone that hitches horse hair was after my mares mane and tail. It was very long and thick, she was well endowed LOL |
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| My horses were poisoned in their pasture at my house. Friends that live near me had gone to a rodeo in OK and when they got home one of their horse's throat had been cut. Two other friends had their horse's shot at their homes. One died. The other had to be put down. This can happen anywhere not just at barrel races. |
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Location: Arkansas | dianeguinn - 2015-10-03 11:39 PM
barrelracer1983 - 2015-10-03 9:54 PM
dianeguinn - 2015-10-03 7:14 PM
Also, the year the horse in my avatar won Drysdales Super Show, the video person came and told me that a guy from the east coast was buying all my videos of him, and to keep an eye out. Then the gal stalled next to me told me a guy kept coming by and looking at him in the stall (which I already had a bike lock on it), so my husband and I took turns staying in front of his stall the whole night. Idk if he had any idea of stealing him, but I knew he could take him to the east coast, sell him for grade and still get good money for him, so I decided to just stay with him.
You don't think he was just a fan?
I didn't know what to think. At that time, I was pretty naive. The video person is the one who warned me and told me it was sketchy. Videos in the late 90's weren't cheap. He bought about $75 worth of my videos and wanted her to look up any she had of me from previous shows. I'd say that's either a pretty rabid fan or a stalker, if he wasn't looking to steal my horse. At a big show in Memphis later that year, a horse was stolen that looked almost identical to mine, but it had a blanket on, and mine had a brand. The guy just walked out with her, and they never got her back. Personally, no, in hindsight, I don't think he was just a fan.
I think a "fan" would have wanted to talk to you and compliment your horse. I agree, this person was up to no good. |
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Location: Arkansas | My senior year at the National High School Finals, two breakaway girls had their horses' long, beautiful takes chopped off. Thankfully, the horses weren't actually harmed, but I'll still never forget that. |
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Location: on my horse | well that settles it, I'm never hauling again or leaving my horses unattended ANYWHERE |
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| Crapshooter is right about the dogs. If you have a dog that even MIGHT bite someone while it is tied to your trailer, you are setting yourself up for a lawsuit. You are liable for damages caused by your dog. We all want to think the dog will only bite the "thief" but in reality there are too many other innocent people that walk by including small children. A few years ago a boxer was tied to a trailer at a big race at Ardmore and it tried to bite several people including a little boy maybe 5 yrs old. The dog just missed the kid's face. The dog owner was told to put the dog up or it will be shot. They put the dog up.
Now to address the question. Locks on stalls, frequently check on horses in stalls at random times, cameras in the stalls, and if it's not too hot you can put slinkies or blankets on horses and a hood to cover them up. Boarding at a facility away from the big show is a good idea too.
It is a shame we have such corrupt people in the industry but we do, from the little shows to the NFR. I have heard horror stories about some of the big names that so many people look up to.
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Location: Kansas | Horses at the racetrack are probably more in danger than barrel racing horses from this type of behavior in competitors.
Does anyone remember the story of how Jet Deck died. Seems he was overdosed in his stall. |
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| Frodo - 2015-10-05 9:23 AM
Horses at the racetrack are probably more in danger than barrel racing horses from this type of behavior in competitors.
Does anyone remember the story of how Jet Deck died. Seems he was overdosed in his stall.
Phar Lap 1926? |
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| Frodo - 2015-10-05 9:23 AM
Horses at the racetrack are probably more in danger than barrel racing horses from this type of behavior in competitors.
Does anyone remember the story of how Jet Deck died. Seems he was overdosed in his stall.
Phar Lap 1926? |
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| Frodo - 2015-10-05 9:23 AM
Horses at the racetrack are probably more in danger than barrel racing horses from this type of behavior in competitors.
Does anyone remember the story of how Jet Deck died. Seems he was overdosed in his stall.
Phar Lap 1926? |
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| Frodo - 2015-10-05 10:23 AM
Horses at the racetrack are probably more in danger than barrel racing horses from this type of behavior in competitors.
Does anyone remember the story of how Jet Deck died. Seems he was overdosed in his stall.
There are actual consequences if you get caught on a racetrack doing this though. Rarely is anything done when barrel horses are sabotaged. |
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| Frodo - 2015-10-05 9:23 AM
Horses at the racetrack are probably more in danger than barrel racing horses from this type of behavior in competitors.
Does anyone remember the story of how Jet Deck died. Seems he was overdosed in his stall.
Jet Deck was given an overdose of Barbiturates in his paddock, not in his stall. But the end result was the same. |
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| sodapop - 2015-09-30 8:23 PM
It seems like I remember reading here on BHW about a horse being stolen from a barrel race at Hardy Murphy in Ardmore OK by some match horse race people. The barrel racer had some help finding the horse and I do believe got the horse back. Anyone remember that or am I just telling a tall tale?
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| streakysox - 2015-10-05 9:34 AM
Frodo - 2015-10-05 9:23 AM
Horses at the racetrack are probably more in danger than barrel racing horses from this type of behavior in competitors.
Does anyone remember the story of how Jet Deck died. Seems he was overdosed in his stall.
Phar Lap 1926?
Phar Lap died from a massive over dose of arsenic. At that time arsenic was frequently given as a "tonic". Tommy Woodcock, Phar Lap's groom who accompanied Phar Lap from Australia, denied that the horse was ever given anything. However, years later, supposedly on his deathbed, Tommy admitted to accidentally overdosing Phar Lap with arsenic-he didn't dilute it correctly. I don't know whether Tommy really admitted his mistake or if this is just another mystery about Phar Lap, |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I read posts like this and it makes me almost glad I don't compete anymore. I like the good old days when you tied your horse to the trailer and you didn't lock anything up and never gave it a thought. |
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Location: somewhere in the south | We always buy a tack stall, it's well worth the money! I don't worry about someone doing something to my horse, we're not 1D but heaven help the person if they did!! I do want to rant a little about the folks that camp out in the aisles of the barns though. We were at a big regional show and across the aisle was a group that had 3/4 of the aisle taken up with all their stuff from hay, feed, saddles, chairs, buckets, etc.............I could barely bring my horse out to saddle up! I understand wanting to look after your horses but camping out literally in the aisle to this extent is very rude! Pool your money and get a stall or drive back and forth with the majority of your stuff! Very frustrating  |
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Location: East TN | It really is a sad situation when others feel the need to sabotage someone else's horse or belonging s out of pure jealousy. It's those types of people that ruin EVERYTHING for EVERYONE. 
I'm with the majority of people here when i say my horses aren't the game changers that everyone waits to see run and no, i don't have the newest, flashiest tack around... so i guess that kind of puts me UNDER the radar for the scum of the earth that commit these atrocities at events.
I wouldn't recommend putting a lock on your horse's stall door though... like it was said previously..if something happens and you're not around there may good people (believe it or not haha) who may be around to help your horse in an emergency until you can get there...and if a lock is on the door help can't HELP. I do hang their hay, water, and feed buckets in the back of their stall so it's not so accessible to passersby. And, both of my boys pin their ears at anyone who comes near their stalls anyway so i think they may have their own defense system!  (in reality tho they wouldn't hurt a fly haha)
I do spring for the extra tack stall ...it just makes it way easier than carting everything back and forth... and i do obviously put a lock on that door. I also have one of the small cameras that sends the pics to my phone that i set up in the tack stall. |
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Location: CTX | MissMary2277 - 2015-10-07 10:11 AM It really is a sad situation when others feel the need to sabotage someone else's horse or belonging s out of pure jealousy. It's those types of people that ruin EVERYTHING for EVERYONE. I'm with the majority of people here when i say my horses aren't the game changers that everyone waits to see run and no, i don't have the newest, flashiest tack around... so i guess that kind of puts me UNDER the radar for the scum of the earth that commit these atrocities at events. I wouldn't recommend putting a lock on your horse's stall door though... like it was said previously..if something happens and you're not around there may good people (believe it or not haha ) who may be around to help your horse in an emergency until you can get there...and if a lock is on the door help can't HELP. I do hang their hay, water, and feed buckets in the back of their stall so it's not so accessible to passersby. And, both of my boys pin their ears at anyone who comes near their stalls anyway so i think they may have their own defense system! (in reality tho they wouldn't hurt a fly haha ) I do spring for the extra tack stall ...it just makes it way easier than carting everything back and forth... and i do obviously put a lock on that door. I also have one of the small cameras that sends the pics to my phone that i set up in the tack stall.
I have a couple of overnight events coming up, they are both local, so I am not real worried about anything happening, plus I am one of those 4-5D warriors, so not a big threat to anyone.
I will from now on put buckets and hay in the back of the stall.....Never get a tackstall, I just bring my horse back and forth to the trailer, gives us both a little more excersize and keeps my stuff in place.
But I am very curious as to which camera you are talking about? I would love to have one to put in my horses' stall. If you don't mind telling where you got it, and what kind it is?
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| I have a question for those of you who get a tack stall - are there tops on the stalls? I would always see people with all their tack in tack stalls with a padlock but it would be simple to climb over the stall and steal a saddle at night if the top of the stall is open. |
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| Griz - 2015-10-08 5:56 AM I have a question for those of you who get a tack stall - are there tops on the stalls? I would always see people with all their tack in tack stalls with a padlock but it would be simple to climb over the stall and steal a saddle at night if the top of the stall is open.
I have never seen one with a top. When I have taken 4 horses to a 3 day race by myself I bought a tack stall for feed, hay etc but I did not leave my Caldwell saddles in there, I would not have slept a wink worrying about someone climbing over the top. |
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Location: CTX | rodeomom3 - 2015-10-08 6:48 AM Griz - 2015-10-08 5:56 AM I have a question for those of you who get a tack stall - are there tops on the stalls? I would always see people with all their tack in tack stalls with a padlock but it would be simple to climb over the stall and steal a saddle at night if the top of the stall is open. I have never seen one with a top. When I have taken 4 horses to a 3 day race by myself I bought a tack stall for feed, hay etc but I did not leave my Caldwell saddles in there, I would not have slept a wink worrying about someone climbing over the top.
This is why I always keep my tack in the trailer. If they break that open they will wake me and my dog, so I feel it is a bit safer there.
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Location: ARKANSAS | When i would go to a big race, like a 3 day event, as i was setting my stall up. Usually people would be setting up beside me.. First thing i would do is get to know my neighbors. i would introduce myself and my horses, and assist them in little things in getting set up. Then i would let them know what is normal behavior for my horses, and ask them about thier horses, then before we parted ways, we would each look after after each others horses and belongings over the entire weekend..This has proven to be invaluble in more times than one..once a hay bag of my neighbors was about to be stolen that i caught...they caught a wheel barrow of mine being stolen....and a halter of mine...etc...just little things i know...but all little things that we would have had to go to the expense of replacing all because of a THEIF!!!! It makes no difference if its a 10 dollar halter or a million dollar horse...if its taken by you YOUR A THEIF!!! no ifs ands or buts!!! |
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Location: Oklahoma | A friend of mine and I always split a tack stall. We throw clothes, empty feed sacks, hay bags, etc. over them as a coverup. I have seen people leave (vicious looking) dogs in their tack stall.
How do you rig up water buckets when the far wall is solid? I definitely want to start taking more precautions since this thread has me paranoid!! |
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Location: Kansas | I've seen people using branding irons to brand all their tack. I'm going to start doing that since ours is definitely unique. |
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Location: Arkansas | rodeomom3 - 2015-10-08 6:48 AM
Griz - 2015-10-08 5:56 AM I have a question for those of you who get a tack stall - are there tops on the stalls? I would always see people with all their tack in tack stalls with a padlock but it would be simple to climb over the stall and steal a saddle at night if the top of the stall is open.
I have never seen one with a top. When I have taken 4 horses to a 3 day race by myself I bought a tack stall for feed, hay etc but I did not leave my Caldwell saddles in there, I would not have slept a wink worrying about someone climbing over the top.
Isn't it a shame we have to worry about the dregs of society when just trying to have a good time with our horses? |
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Location: CTX | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-10-08 8:47 AM I've seen people using branding irons to brand all their tack. I'm going to start doing that since ours is definitely unique.
I was just talking to the hubster about that yesterday. We are wanting to get a freeze branding iron for the horses, but I also want a smaller size hot branding iron for just that! Not sure where I would find it, but we are going to Vegas in December, so I am hopeful we can get them there! (or at least order them) |
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Location: texas | its a shame that people will take other peoples things! ive had nice tack stolen from me that i personally paid for! it actually makes me sad more then mad lol because i loved it so much, and its very hard to find things that fit my horse properly! since he is so stout and short lol. i would LOVE to get my gelding freeze branded but i just feel like it would hurt him! hes my baby and i dont wanna see him in pain...all i can say is i ALWAYS lock up all my stuff! even a simple halter bc its so annoying when someome even uses my stuff without asking! |
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Location: Kansas | Ashlen1515 - 2015-10-09 10:33 AM its a shame that people will take other peoples things! ive had nice tack stolen from me that i personally paid for! it actually makes me sad more then mad lol because i loved it so much, and its very hard to find things that fit my horse properly! since he is so stout and short lol. i would LOVE to get my gelding freeze branded but i just feel like it would hurt him! hes my baby and i dont wanna see him in pain...all i can say is i ALWAYS lock up all my stuff! even a simple halter bc its so annoying when someome even uses my stuff without asking!
Freeze branding doesn't hurt a horse..........hot iron branding does. |
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Location: Oklahoma | cranky B4 10am - 2015-10-09 6:57 AM
hoofs_in_motion - 2015-10-08 8:47 AM I've seen people using branding irons to brand all their tack. I'm going to start doing that since ours is definitely unique.
I was just talking to the hubster about that yesterday. We are wanting to get a freeze branding iron for the horses, but I also want a smaller size hot branding iron for just that! Not sure where I would find it, but we are going to Vegas in December, so I am hopeful we can get them there! (or at least order them)
I had a small, 2", hot brand made to do saddles and breast collars with.... but haven't actually gotten around to branding anything just yet (sounds like a good weekend project!).
I had mine made from Flying 45. They did an excellent job! Looks like where Hoofs' came from as well! |
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Location: texas | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-10-09 10:39 AM
Ashlen1515 - 2015-10-09 10:33 AM its a shame that people will take other peoples things! ive had nice tack stolen from me that i personally paid for! it actually makes me sad more then mad lol because i loved it so much, and its very hard to find things that fit my horse properly! since he is so stout and short lol. i would LOVE to get my gelding freeze branded but i just feel like it would hurt him! hes my baby and i dont wanna see him in pain...all i can say is i ALWAYS lock up all my stuff! even a simple halter bc its so annoying when someome even uses my stuff without asking!
Freeze branding doesn't hurt a horse..........hot iron branding does.
it doesnt hurt at all? ive heard some horse react badly to it(break out in hives), break out or swell up bad, or react to the liquid nitrogen!. i even heard of horses getting high from it? lol My horses has kinda sensitive skin! |
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| Ashlen1515 - 2015-10-09 10:46 AM
hoofs_in_motion - 2015-10-09 10:39 AM
Ashlen1515 - 2015-10-09 10:33 AM its a shame that people will take other peoples things! ive had nice tack stolen from me that i personally paid for! it actually makes me sad more then mad lol because i loved it so much, and its very hard to find things that fit my horse properly! since he is so stout and short lol. i would LOVE to get my gelding freeze branded but i just feel like it would hurt him! hes my baby and i dont wanna see him in pain...all i can say is i ALWAYS lock up all my stuff! even a simple halter bc its so annoying when someome even uses my stuff without asking!
Freeze branding doesn't hurt a horse..........hot iron branding does.
it doesnt hurt at all? ive heard some horse react badly to it (break out in hives ), break out or swell up bad, or react to the liquid nitrogen!. i even heard of horses getting high from it? lol My horses has kinda sensitive skin!
My sister has had a couple horses freeze branded after she caught a guy riding her good horse bareback and headed towards the exit of rodeo grounds. They never exhibited any of those reactions. I have never even heard of those reactions to freeze branding. Not saying its impossible, but just never had a vet tell us of any possible reactions such as those. |
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Location: Kansas | Longneck - 2015-10-09 10:44 AM cranky B4 10am - 2015-10-09 6:57 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-10-08 8:47 AM I've seen people using branding irons to brand all their tack. I'm going to start doing that since ours is definitely unique. I was just talking to the hubster about that yesterday. We are wanting to get a freeze branding iron for the horses, but I also want a smaller size hot branding iron for just that! Not sure where I would find it, but we are going to Vegas in December, so I am hopeful we can get them there! (or at least order them) I had a small, 2", hot brand made to do saddles and breast collars with.... but haven't actually gotten around to branding anything just yet (sounds like a good weekend project! ). I had mine made from Flying 45. They did an excellent job! Looks like where Hoofs' came from as well!
What did they charge for the 2"? Flying 45 made our brand....and it was around $200 for the 5" |
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Location: CTX | Longneck - 2015-10-09 10:44 AM cranky B4 10am - 2015-10-09 6:57 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-10-08 8:47 AM I've seen people using branding irons to brand all their tack. I'm going to start doing that since ours is definitely unique. I was just talking to the hubster about that yesterday. We are wanting to get a freeze branding iron for the horses, but I also want a smaller size hot branding iron for just that! Not sure where I would find it, but we are going to Vegas in December, so I am hopeful we can get them there! (or at least order them) I had a small, 2", hot brand made to do saddles and breast collars with.... but haven't actually gotten around to branding anything just yet (sounds like a good weekend project! ). I had mine made from Flying 45. They did an excellent job! Looks like where Hoofs' came from as well!
Great, will look into them. Thanks! |
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Location: East TN | Mine is called DropCam ... there are several different types they sell..all varying price wise. You sync it with your phone :) i purchased mine from Wal-Mart but here's one on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Dropcam-Wireless-Monitoring-Security-Camera/d...
side note: i didn't just buy this FOR barrel races, i had it previously...but it sure does come in handy! |
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Location: Oklahoma | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-10-09 10:53 AM
Longneck - 2015-10-09 10:44 AM cranky B4 10am - 2015-10-09 6:57 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-10-08 8:47 AM I've seen people using branding irons to brand all their tack. I'm going to start doing that since ours is definitely unique. I was just talking to the hubster about that yesterday. We are wanting to get a freeze branding iron for the horses, but I also want a smaller size hot branding iron for just that! Not sure where I would find it, but we are going to Vegas in December, so I am hopeful we can get them there! (or at least order them) I had a small, 2", hot brand made to do saddles and breast collars with.... but haven't actually gotten around to branding anything just yet (sounds like a good weekend project! ). I had mine made from Flying 45. They did an excellent job! Looks like where Hoofs' came from as well!
I believe it was around $80! |
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