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Location: Central Florida | Anyone ever had their horse refuse to eat the Nutrena Pro Force Fuel? | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Did you smell it to make sure it doesn't have a moldy or funky smell to it?
Did you start introducing it to your horse by putting a small amount in the feed you were feeding? | |
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Location: Oklahoma | I used to feed it... | |
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Location: North Dakota | Have you fed it previously or did you just start introducing it? Especially if you've been feeding it for a while, I would listen to them. It could be moldy or maybe from a monensin contaminated mill. Not sure if they could detect that but it's better to be safe than sorry. | |
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| I used to feed it as well, my experience with Nutrena is sometimes horses loved it, others not. They are trying to tell you something. | |
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Location: Central Florida | I have been feeding it for a little over a month now. They were okay in the beginning and then would keep leaving their food bowl, but would eventually finish it. Bought two new bags last week (didn't smell moldy or anything) and not wanting anything to do with it. I went ahead and bought different grain to switch them over to. Just wondering if anyone had any of the same issues. | |
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| I have had a lot of horses, one currently, who refuse to eat Nutrena from time to time...I feed the Safechoice Perform now....Idk what it is about it but this horse has been eating it fine for three months and is now refusing. The others are still eating it all up with no problems to their stomachs or anything like that. | |
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Location: CTX | Had that problem when I was feeding safechoice original. Opened a new bag, and both my piggies refused to eat it. Went and got another bag, no problem. I never smelled or saw any difference between the bags. but they sure did...
Not long after that I switched them to a different feed. | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 1:01 PM I have had a lot of horses, one currently, who refuse to eat Nutrena from time to time...I feed the Safechoice Perform now....Idk what it is about it but this horse has been eating it fine for three months and is now refusing. The others are still eating it all up with no problems to their stomachs or anything like that.
Some are more sensitive than others...some can eat feed that isn't quite right and be just fine, while others can eat a small amount of a substance and become deathly ill.
I never knew how serious this issue was until it slapped me right in the face back in January this year. You can have one horse out of ten get sick on contaminated feed and you would never suspect the feed as being the source of the problem....Mine started out looking like a mild colic and progressed into a very severe illness with symptoms that didn't match anything that the vets could identify. | |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 1:32 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 1:01 PM I have had a lot of horses, one currently, who refuse to eat Nutrena from time to time...I feed the Safechoice Perform now....Idk what it is about it but this horse has been eating it fine for three months and is now refusing. The others are still eating it all up with no problems to their stomachs or anything like that. Some are more sensitive than others...some can eat feed that isn't quite right and be just fine, while others can eat a small amount of a substance and become deathly ill.
I never knew how serious this issue was until it slapped me right in the face back in January this year. You can have one horse out of ten get sick on contaminated feed and you would never suspect the feed as being the source of the problem....Mine started out looking like a mild colic and progressed into a very severe illness with symptoms that didn't match anything that the vets could identify.
Yeah, something was going on with that bag for sure. Although, I have heard a lot of horses do it particularly with Nutrena, makes me nervous. We are out and going to buy a couple more bags...we are going to see how this one particular horse acts...if he still thinks something is wrong then we may not buy it anymore and its too bad because I really liked what I was getting in New Mexico when I bought it...but IDK that its not coming from a different place now that I'm back in Texas. | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | I cannot support a company that has no regard for animal health, no matter how much I may like one of their products. | |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 2:23 PM I cannot support a company that has no regard for animal health, no matter how much I may like one of their products.
All you feed is the Omnis Cubes right? | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 3:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 2:23 PM I cannot support a company that has no regard for animal health, no matter how much I may like one of their products. All you feed is the Omnis Cubes right?
Yes, that's where I have ended up over the course of the past nine months. We were feeding Bluebonnet Intensify feeds with our Omnis cubes until I realized that they really didn't need it....Then we saw that next step up with my daughters mare after we took her off of it completely.
I have stronger feelings than many do about feed producers and their selective answers when addressing questions about their processes. ADM, Nutrena, and others have taken the "we are monensin free" route, rather than admitting that they use Lasalocid in their mills when I asked questions specifically about Ionophores.
Once a horse's digestive system is compromised you start seeing many other ailments arise. EPM, ulcers, colic, body soreness, chronic inflammation, unexplained lameness, poor coat, poor appetite, behavioral issues, performance issues, and the list goes on and on and on. When the gut isn't functioning properly it won't matter what you feed the horse...he won't look better until you get the inflammation under control and the gut processing the nutrition that you're giving him.
Disreputable feed mills keep vets in business...and provide a platform for the billion dollar supplement industry. | |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 3:52 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 3:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 2:23 PM I cannot support a company that has no regard for animal health, no matter how much I may like one of their products. All you feed is the Omnis Cubes right?
I have stronger feelings than many do about feed producers and their selective answers when addressing questions about their processes. ADM, Nutrena, and others have taken the "we are monensin free" route, rather than admitting that they use Lasalocid in their mills when I asked questions specifically about Ionophores.
Once a horse's digestive system is compromised you start seeing many other ailments arise. EPM, ulcers, colic, body soreness, chronic inflammation, unexplained lameness, poor coat, poor appetite, behavioral issues, performance issues, and the list goes on and on and on. When the gut isn't functioning properly it won't matter what you feed the horse...he won't look better until you get the inflammation under control and the gut processing the nutrition that you're giving him.
Disreputable feed mills keep vets in business...and provide a platform for the billion dollar supplement industry.
There was a Blubonnet feed that was really similar to the Safechoice Perform...low starch, high fat, better for horses that "tie-up" but I cant remember which one it was. I had done a little research on it...BUT we didnt have anyone that sold it in New Mexico where I was living. I could probably get it now though. Have you done the research on Bluebonnet.....and can you tell me the difference in the Omnis Cubes and really good quality alfalfa? We have great alfalfa where we are...horses look amazing when not getting fed anything else...however I do like the extra energy that mine have with a grain. I have a horse that always looks like a million bucks when just getting fed alfalfa but when on grain he does perform much better and has been getting better and better the longer he has been on the Safechoice Perform. | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 3:52 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 3:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 2:23 PM I cannot support a company that has no regard for animal health, no matter how much I may like one of their products. All you feed is the Omnis Cubes right?
I have stronger feelings than many do about feed producers and their selective answers when addressing questions about their processes. ADM, Nutrena, and others have taken the "we are monensin free" route, rather than admitting that they use Lasalocid in their mills when I asked questions specifically about Ionophores.
Once a horse's digestive system is compromised you start seeing many other ailments arise. EPM, ulcers, colic, body soreness, chronic inflammation, unexplained lameness, poor coat, poor appetite, behavioral issues, performance issues, and the list goes on and on and on. When the gut isn't functioning properly it won't matter what you feed the horse...he won't look better until you get the inflammation under control and the gut processing the nutrition that you're giving him.
Disreputable feed mills keep vets in business...and provide a platform for the billion dollar supplement industry.
Ex-Factor is the BB feed you're thinking of...it was not my favorite. The price was pretty questionable when you look at the ingredient list.
Omnis Complete Performance Cubes also contain Whole Oats and Whole Flax, which is what makes them complete. I was like you when I first started feeding them...I didn't think that there was any way that my daughters horses would have the energy they need to run from just feeding these cubes....I was WRONG. They are firing hard, staying focused, and look amazing all while not getting a bit hot. Her little mare is a cribber, except when she has her cubes nearby. The other mare was significantly affected by the contaminated feed and has finally come back to clocking in the past few months. The little 13.3 hand mare Hotbox was 10th in the 1D out of 336 on Saturday and had some room for improvement. She has been on Omnis Cubes and nothing else for over a couple of months now. If you were feeding good quality alfalfa, you really wouldn't need anything other than good quality oats and maybe a fat supplement to go with it. Omnis cubes have flax for Omega 3 fat. | |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 4:15 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 3:52 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 3:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 2:23 PM I cannot support a company that has no regard for animal health, no matter how much I may like one of their products. All you feed is the Omnis Cubes right?
I have stronger feelings than many do about feed producers and their selective answers when addressing questions about their processes. ADM, Nutrena, and others have taken the "we are monensin free" route, rather than admitting that they use Lasalocid in their mills when I asked questions specifically about Ionophores.
Once a horse's digestive system is compromised you start seeing many other ailments arise. EPM, ulcers, colic, body soreness, chronic inflammation, unexplained lameness, poor coat, poor appetite, behavioral issues, performance issues, and the list goes on and on and on. When the gut isn't functioning properly it won't matter what you feed the horse...he won't look better until you get the inflammation under control and the gut processing the nutrition that you're giving him.
Disreputable feed mills keep vets in business...and provide a platform for the billion dollar supplement industry.
Omnis Complete Performance Cubes also contain Whole Oats and Whole Flax, which is what makes them complete. I was like you when I first started feeding them...I didn't think that there was any way that my daughters horses would have the energy they need to run from just feeding these cubes....I was WRONG. They are firing hard, staying focused, and look amazing all while not getting a bit hot. Her little mare is a cribber, except when she has her cubes nearby. The other mare was significantly affected by the contaminated feed and has finally come back to clocking in the past few months. The little 13.3 hand mare Hotbox was 10th in the 1D out of 336 on Saturday and had some room for improvement. She has been on Omnis Cubes and nothing else for over a couple of months now. If you were feeding good quality alfalfa, you really wouldn't need anything other than good quality oats and maybe a fat supplement to go with it. Omnis cubes have flax for Omega 3 fat.
Well thanks for the info....this horse in particular has mom and I leary of this grain now..and I have really been a fan of it since Cas has been firing so hard. I know that I cant feed my little horse grain at all...especially oats..he is a freak and will flip out...but the others would probably handle it fine. My little horse only gets alfalfa as is. What is the price comparison, do you feed alfalfa along with it, we have pasture..but that will soon be gone over the winter, they all alternate every other day between a roundbale over the winter. The little mare that only gets the cubes...you dont worry about her getting ulcers not getting to graze or have any filler "grass hay" between feedings? Price? Amount you feed? Do you buy from a distributor? thanks for the info my the way
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Location: Central Florida | I have never heard of the Omni cubes? I don't believe they are available in my area. Are the similar to an alfalfa cube.... size wise? | |
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| FloridaPriss - 2015-10-13 6:34 AM
I have never heard of the Omni cubes? I don't believe they are available in my area. Are the similar to an alfalfa cube.... size wise?
They are smaller than a regular alfalfa cube and much easier to break apart. Standlee's cubes for mini horses is about the same size, although I think they are harder than the Omni cubes. | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 4:46 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 4:15 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 3:52 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 3:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 2:23 PM I cannot support a company that has no regard for animal health, no matter how much I may like one of their products. All you feed is the Omnis Cubes right?
I have stronger feelings than many do about feed producers and their selective answers when addressing questions about their processes. ADM, Nutrena, and others have taken the "we are monensin free" route, rather than admitting that they use Lasalocid in their mills when I asked questions specifically about Ionophores.
Once a horse's digestive system is compromised you start seeing many other ailments arise. EPM, ulcers, colic, body soreness, chronic inflammation, unexplained lameness, poor coat, poor appetite, behavioral issues, performance issues, and the list goes on and on and on. When the gut isn't functioning properly it won't matter what you feed the horse...he won't look better until you get the inflammation under control and the gut processing the nutrition that you're giving him.
Disreputable feed mills keep vets in business...and provide a platform for the billion dollar supplement industry.
Omnis Complete Performance Cubes also contain Whole Oats and Whole Flax, which is what makes them complete. I was like you when I first started feeding them...I didn't think that there was any way that my daughters horses would have the energy they need to run from just feeding these cubes....I was WRONG. They are firing hard, staying focused, and look amazing all while not getting a bit hot. Her little mare is a cribber, except when she has her cubes nearby. The other mare was significantly affected by the contaminated feed and has finally come back to clocking in the past few months. The little 13.3 hand mare Hotbox was 10th in the 1D out of 336 on Saturday and had some room for improvement. She has been on Omnis Cubes and nothing else for over a couple of months now. If you were feeding good quality alfalfa, you really wouldn't need anything other than good quality oats and maybe a fat supplement to go with it. Omnis cubes have flax for Omega 3 fat.
I expect to be feeding 10-20# a day each to our horses this winter, depending on whether they're going to be in the barn or in the pasture with a round bale. We bale a lot of hay and it has to be used, so we will feed them and supplement with cubes to the pasture horses. Our barrel and roping horses that are being run or shown will be getting more cubes and have grass hay available if they want something to munch on.
This is Hotbox, who eats no hay, lol
I'll add a couple more. The next is my 3 yr old and the last is my 6 yr old mare that's coming back from an injury. Hotbox and the 3 yr old are not on pasture, the mare is on pasture at night.
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Location: Jersey Girl | FloridaPriss - 2015-10-13 7:34 AM I have never heard of the Omni cubes? I don't believe they are available in my area. Are the similar to an alfalfa cube.... size wise?
I believe they are only available in the Mid-West region. I had inquired about them a while back and they weren't in my area either (Northeast). Really wish I could get them..... | |
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Location: Central Florida | I found the Omni cubes on facebook. Really wish they were in my area would love to give them a try. | |
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Location: Jersey Girl | FloridaPriss - 2015-10-13 1:53 PM I found the Omni cubes on facebook. Really wish they were in my area would love to give them a try.
So would I! | |
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Location: Northwest Florida | FloridaPriss - 2015-10-13 12:53 PM
I found the Omni cubes on facebook. Really wish they were in my area would love to give them a try.
I'm in Florida as well.. super bummed they aren't in this area. The closest dealer I found is in Louisiana.. I may be making a road trip! | |
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| MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 3:52 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 3:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 2:23 PM I cannot support a company that has no regard for animal health, no matter how much I may like one of their products. All you feed is the Omnis Cubes right?
I have stronger feelings than many do about feed producers and their selective answers when addressing questions about their processes. ADM, Nutrena, and others have taken the "we are monensin free" route, rather than admitting that they use Lasalocid in their mills when I asked questions specifically about Ionophores.
Once a horse's digestive system is compromised you start seeing many other ailments arise. EPM, ulcers, colic, body soreness, chronic inflammation, unexplained lameness, poor coat, poor appetite, behavioral issues, performance issues, and the list goes on and on and on. When the gut isn't functioning properly it won't matter what you feed the horse...he won't look better until you get the inflammation under control and the gut processing the nutrition that you're giving him.
Disreputable feed mills keep vets in business...and provide a platform for the billion dollar supplement industry.
The BB feed you are talking about is X Factor. | |
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| MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 3:52 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 3:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 2:23 PM I cannot support a company that has no regard for animal health, no matter how much I may like one of their products. All you feed is the Omnis Cubes right?
I have stronger feelings than many do about feed producers and their selective answers when addressing questions about their processes. ADM, Nutrena, and others have taken the "we are monensin free" route, rather than admitting that they use Lasalocid in their mills when I asked questions specifically about Ionophores.
Once a horse's digestive system is compromised you start seeing many other ailments arise. EPM, ulcers, colic, body soreness, chronic inflammation, unexplained lameness, poor coat, poor appetite, behavioral issues, performance issues, and the list goes on and on and on. When the gut isn't functioning properly it won't matter what you feed the horse...he won't look better until you get the inflammation under control and the gut processing the nutrition that you're giving him.
Disreputable feed mills keep vets in business...and provide a platform for the billion dollar supplement industry.
The BB feed you are talking about is X Factor. | |
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| readytorodeo - 2015-10-15 8:37 AM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 3:52 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-12 3:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-10-12 2:23 PM I cannot support a company that has no regard for animal health, no matter how much I may like one of their products. All you feed is the Omnis Cubes right?
I have stronger feelings than many do about feed producers and their selective answers when addressing questions about their processes. ADM, Nutrena, and others have taken the "we are monensin free" route, rather than admitting that they use Lasalocid in their mills when I asked questions specifically about Ionophores.
Once a horse's digestive system is compromised you start seeing many other ailments arise. EPM, ulcers, colic, body soreness, chronic inflammation, unexplained lameness, poor coat, poor appetite, behavioral issues, performance issues, and the list goes on and on and on. When the gut isn't functioning properly it won't matter what you feed the horse...he won't look better until you get the inflammation under control and the gut processing the nutrition that you're giving him.
Disreputable feed mills keep vets in business...and provide a platform for the billion dollar supplement industry.
I went and bought some Omega Force...horses seem to like it. I like knowing everything that is in it. I like the 12 percent fat. Its 24$ a bag here...but you dont have to feed as much of it so it works out in the end. | |
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