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| I am curious to see where most of this cross-contamination is happening...if there are issues in your area can you tell me where that area is? I haven't heard anything where I am in Midland, Texas and am wondering if the issues are mainly up north.
Secondly, which grain companies don't also have cattle crap at their mills? I am not interested in feeding cubes or pellets...have had too many horses choke and I have really good quality alfalfa and pasture right now.
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Location: Kansas | You can soak to prevent choke............I quit feeding processed feeds. My horses are too important to me to take the risk of anything. |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-10-13 10:21 AM You can soak to prevent choke............I quit feeding processed feeds. My horses are too important to me to take the risk of anything.
Just dont want to have to soak and mess with all of that. Mom often feeds alone, there is no reason to have her out there soaking feed, and then breaking water, and then seperating horses and everything that goes along with. Limited time and daylight....plus we have quality forage and alfalfa. I have two horses that do better on grain..I have one that doesnt need it at all.
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Location: Oklahoma | out of commercialized processed feeds, Blue Bonnet is the safest I've found. |
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| Did I read where Purina only makes horse feed in ionophore free mills?
Also, the latest contaminated feed I saw was in California.
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Location: Florida.. | There are 2 Long threads with names of companies .. Ill try to find it.. but Purina is clean.. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Cross contamination and drug carryover can happen in any mill that produces multi-species feeds. You should talk to TDove. He's in Midland and the contact for Omnis cubes. He would know who in that area could help you out...and might know of an alternative as well.
Omnis cubes do not have to be soaked, FYI. I have two that only have teeth in the front and that's what they're living on. They can't effectively graze or eat hay anymore. |
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Location: Southern Indiana | Tribute manufactures their feed in a totally seperate facility. Kalm Ez and Kalm Ultra are their 2 most popular lines. |
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| This is a list from the FDA with all animal feed recalls for the last year.
http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/safetyhealth/recallswithdrawals...
There are three listed for horse feeds:
Western Milling Co. (California and Arizona) 9/25/2015
Lakeland Animal Nutrition (Florida) 12/03/2014
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Bartlett Milling Co. (N. Carolina, S. Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee) 10/31/2014
ETA: There is a 4th I missed: Murphy Hay Co. (N. Carolina) 9/18/2015
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| Thanks for the info everyone...at work, hard to get any research done. |
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| Tdove - 2015-10-13 10:56 AM I would be happy to talk with you about Omnis. My number is 432-212-5889. We feed it to about 30 horses a day with no issues on any of the concerns you have about it.
I will call you after work. Thanks! |
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| If you can afford it - Woody's is fantastic feed. |
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Location: North Dakota | Your options would be Omnis (which I want but can't get here), Renew Gold, Purina, I do believe Progressive Nutrition as well. That's what I feed now but am going to just oats, alfalfa pellets, Renew Gold, and flax. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | lindseylou2290 - 2015-10-13 11:57 AM If you can afford it - Woody's is fantastic feed.
I looked at Woody's myself. The only dealer that carried it within two hours of us only carried one kind and wasn't reliable about keeping it in stock. I would have loved to have been able to get their oats. |
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Location: North Dakota | lindseylou2290 - 2015-10-13 11:57 AM
If you can afford it - Woody's is fantastic feed.
Yes if you read on their website, the statement about safety was there long before this was an issue in any of the other plants. They know the value of the safety for their customers horses. |
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Location: Texas | I feed Country Acres (made by Purina) high fat pellets (12/8).
I go back and forth about feeding something different but the horses do great on this feed. And it's $10.55 a 50 lb. bag.
In my area it is made at the Purina mill in Fort Worth, and all horse feed is made in a totally separate mill from cattle feed.
I know some very successful futurity trainers who feed the same thing and they win, so I guess it works.
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Location: Always in the Jungle of Ohio | Tdove - 2015-10-13 10:56 AM I would be happy to talk with you about Omnis. My number is 432-212-5889. We feed it to about 30 horses a day with no issues on any of the concerns you have about it.
Is this product sold in the Ohio. WV, Pa. Area?? Would love to try it! |
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| I didn't realize there had been any issues in VA, but this morning when I called the coop where they have always done custom runs they told me no more since the Leesburg cases. I did not research further as to what type or brand of feed, nor what mill it came out of. |
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Location: Deep South | This is the list I have of ionophore-free mills:
Purina
Seminole
Renew Gold
Total Equine
Standlee Hay
Manna Pro
Blue Bonnett
Buckeye
Red River Feeds
Woody's Feeds
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-10-13 10:33 AM
Cross contamination and drug carryover can happen in any mill that produces multi-species feeds. You should talk to TDove. He's in Midland and the contact for Omnis cubes. He would know who in that area could help you out...and might know of an alternative as well.
Omnis cubes do not have to be soaked, FYI. I have two that only have teeth in the front and that's what they're living on. They can't effectively graze or eat hay anymore.
I have a very choke prone horse.. believe me I was scared to death to feed him the omnis cubes but I did it and I watched him eat for days he had ZERO issue with the omnis cubes. I use to live in NM and had easy access to the omnis. But we've since moved and I'm having a hard time getting them. So I switched everyone to purina active sr for a while because it was pretty soft pellet, well my horse choked on it. And bad! So I've gone to whole oats and renew gold and he's doing just fine on that. If I could get the omnis consistently I'd feed that without a doubt. |
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Location: Louisiana | Fun2Run - 2015-10-13 12:15 PM I feed Country Acres (made by Purina) high fat pellets (12/8).
I go back and forth about feeding something different but the horses do great on this feed. And it's $10.55 a 50 lb. bag.
In my area it is made at the Purina mill in Fort Worth, and all horse feed is made in a totally separate mill from cattle feed.
I know some very successful futurity trainers who feed the same thing and they win, so I guess it works.
We (my mom and I) swapped to this after learning about ionophores. Our local mill where we've bought feed from for YEARS had had multiple complaints of sick and/or dead horses recently. We've fed Nutrena in the past and that's a no-go as well.
Mon just bought a new horse and he was in the Country Acres hf and looks great. So we rolled with that. It's affordable, safe, and you never have to worry if it's in stock. The feed store manager even cut us a deal if we buy over 1000 lbs.
Like you, I also know some jam up horses in the area that eat Country Acres. A purina rep told Mom it is very similar to Impact.
I actually just went and bought alfalfa cubes and while oats for my personal horses. But all of hubby's horses, and my moms will still be getting the CA. |
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| MOTIVATED - 2015-10-13 10:20 AM
I am curious to see where most of this cross-contamination is happening...if there are issues in your area can you tell me where that area is? I haven't heard anything where I am in Midland, Texas and am wondering if the issues are mainly up north.
Secondly, which grain companies don't also have cattle crap at their mills? I am not interested in feeding cubes or pellets...have had too many horses choke and I have really good quality alfalfa and pasture right now.
Since you have good quality alfalfa ... all you need to do is to add whole oats as your grain side of your feeding program ...
ALFALFA AND WHOLE OATS IS THE MOST BALANCED NUTRIENT BASED NATURAL FEEDING YOU CAN DO ...
ADD A HANDFUL OF ADM GROSTRONG MINERALS EVERY OTHER DAY
and you will love how your horses act and look on this simple feeding program ..
Keep a good worming program going and no more worry on feed problems!!
If you want a super gorgeous shine and a kick up on your horses immune systems ..
add 8 oz of WHOLE FLAX SEEDS TO YOUR DAILY FEEDINGS to each horse ..
Don't make this complicated ... use a 5 gal restaurant type bucket and layer a scoop of whole oats ; some flax seed; and every other day the Grostrong minerals until bucket is full ... and just scoop the mix out to each horse when feeding ... add an extra scoop of the mix for any poor keepers ...
GOOD LUCK ... you will like what you see ...
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