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Location: East TN | With check in day a whopping 9 days away... did anyone notice the lack of entries this year?! I think i saw somewhere around 795 in open. It's crazy how much they have declined over the past couple years.... i figured with the switch from Augusta to Perry, they would've taken off!
But i know it is very hard to get off a week from work, I'm just blessed that my bosses sponsor me or it would not be doable AT ALL!
What day is everyone heading down? Where are ya'll coming from? I think we are heading down early Saturday am just so we can get set up and hopefully avoid the major rush.
Also, did ya'll notice they added almost an entire day of exhibitions? (Sunday!! $5 each!) i was pumped about that...since this is the first year i didn't spring for the "expensive exhibition" and enter the 21 race.
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Location: MD | I'll leave from MD on Friday, stay over at a friend's in SC Friday night and come the rest of the way Saturday. I'll get there late enough to miss the crowd. I was happy to see exhibitions again. The last time they had them was 2011. I'll run late Tuesday and Thursday nights. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | The NBHA is dying as people are tired of getting ripped off along with their district directors. Texas went from over 1100 entries to lucky to less then we get for a good 5-D open jackpot show. |
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Sock Snob
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| They need to start on moday that long week is a killer, for my business, i have to pay someone to,take my place. i have seen them run over 700 in a day at lexington va. I had horse problems last year and needed a wild card not gonna pay 300.00 for on and then pay entry fees and all went up. Camper fee. Shorten time and on sat the finals needs to start at 10:00 am be done by 2:00. I havent gone as much in the last several years cause of health reasons and my husband was house bound before that, and i couldnot get a caretaker when it came down to time. I am older now and have a young horse who is not competitive. I had to make a dicision. No go. 300.00 diesel, camping fee, eating for 8 days food and dining 300.00. add it up. And the cost paying someone to stand up front and answer the phone and be dumb 500.00. Loss of business 3000.00
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Location: South Central Florida | A couple years ago it was over 1000, last year it was close to 900 if not over 900. This seems to be the lowest since we started going. I think it was 795 but there will be some late entries (you can pay a double entry fee after the deadline and still run but there are only usually 5 or 6)
I always enjoy the week but I do agree the payout needs to be better. It is the best thing we have going on the East coast though. Out west there are so many other good organizations. Here there is only Prorodeo, NBHA and a few IBRA's but the district IBRA show closest to us is not run well (or had serious problems anyway when it started) I won't go back. Also it looked like the National IBRA show was tiny, less than 500 from what I read.
We will have fun no matter what. Some years they win money, other years they don't, but it's usually a good time.
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | By the way!!! My brother has a display he does at the NBHA Florida state show. He wrote the program and it displays an Unofficial placeing that is current per rider. He did it at the Perry GA show and it was very popular, so he is going back for the Open. If you see it and like it...tell them!!!
I promise you will like it. It lists the current rider, the current leader and the top 26 in each division and changes with each rider. Plus there is a touch screen you can go to and type in the rider number and it will show you what they ran in each go round.
It will be at the end past the 3rd barrel!
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Location: Iowa | Move it to a more central location and they will come. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | memory - 2015-10-14 9:11 PM
Move it to a more central location and they will come.
I don't think that's it Youth World is unreal at Perry which seems to what draws the crowd. |
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Famous for Not Complaining
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Location: Broxton, Ga | memory - 2015-10-14 9:11 PM
Move it to a more central location and they will come.
I don't think that's it Youth World is unreal at Perry which seems to what draws the crowd. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | memory - 2015-10-14 9:11 PM
Move it to a more central location and they will come.
I don't think that's it Youth World is unreal at Perry which seems to what draws the crowd. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | I have qualified a couple times, but have decided not to go, because I heard the same thing as someone mentioned above. They "hundred-dollar" you half to death every time you turn around and, since I haven't been competitive enough to know I would be in the big 1D money, I just can't go spend that much in a week for what would only be a fun week. I would go if everything was going to be reasonably priced. I disagree about location being the biggest factor. I think the costs once you get there have been a bigger factor. |
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Location: South Central Florida | The argument about moving always comes up but it really is the only big show in the wast. Centrally lovated has the BBR, G&G, PAC WEST and others plus big futurities and big money jackpots. All we got is NBHA! Changing location west would drop numbers because of other competition companies. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | I love going. I've been to open every year since it moved to perry. Went to youth world 2007-2012. I know it's expensive.... Believe me I know. I'm taking 3 horses and I know I won't win my money back but I love the experience. This is my vacation for the year. I don't do anything else besides maybe go to the beach for the afternoon a few times a year. I don't even go to 3 day barrel races anymore except maybe twice a year. I'm only 4.5 hours from Perry so if I was further I might not go as much but Perry is a great place. |
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Sock Snob
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| I also just think at the youth word parents will spend for there kids. But this is am election year and is messes withnthe economy a little. When it was at augusta it was small a couple of times. I think when economy is good the extra money is there and when economy is bad people not gonna spend. |
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Location: Midwest | Swannranch - 2015-10-15 7:42 PM A couple years ago it was over 1000, last year it was close to 900 if not over 900. This seems to be the lowest since we started going. I think it was 795 but there will be some late entries (you can pay a double entry fee after the deadline and still run but there are only usually 5 or 6)
I always enjoy the week but I do agree the payout needs to be better. It is the best thing we have going on the East coast though. Out west there are so many other good organizations. Here there is only Prorodeo, NBHA and a few IBRA's but the district IBRA show closest to us is not run well (or had serious problems anyway when it started) I won't go back. Also it looked like the National IBRA show was tiny, less than 500 from what I read.
We will have fun no matter what. Some years they win money, other years they don't, but it's usually a good time.
IBRA Nationals show was the same way last year. I don't think they are as "big" as NBHA yet, especially in the western states (as in they don't even have any shows).
I ran last year and had a blast. I think there were almost 400 in the open. It was very well run, and the facility is fantastic.
I didn't do much this year running wise as work kept me very busy, and I picked up a colt. However, I did see that someone broke the arena record this year at Nationals. I think IBRA will continue to grow as (at least in Indiana) it is run pretty well and has decent year end awards. I know that varies from state to state, and I think Indiana is one of the biggest.
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Location: East TN | I will definitely agree with the cost vs payout factor here.... They (NBHA) are gonna have to do SOMETHING or the numbers will continually drop...sadly 
I, too, use this week as my vacation. And to catch up with the friends I've made while camping in previous years. So i really look forward to it every year. The facility is BEAUTIFUL and there's other things to do if you like to go exploring on your "not running" days.
I also agree too, that with such low numbers they COULD shorten up the week and probably wrap it all up within about 4 days...which im sure my bank account would appreciate me working those extra few days! lol
Anywho, hope everyone has safe travels!! See you in about a week!!  |
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | Swannranch - 2015-10-15 8:46 PM By the way!!! My brother has a display he does at the NBHA Florida state show. He wrote the program and it displays an Unofficial placeing that is current per rider. He did it at the Perry GA show and it was very popular, so he is going back for the Open. If you see it and like it...tell them!!!
I promise you will like it. It lists the current rider, the current leader and the top 26 in each division and changes with each rider. Plus there is a touch screen you can go to and type in the rider number and it will show you what they ran in each go round.
It will be at the end past the 3rd barrel!
I LOVE that display at State!!! It's really really really addicting. Props to your brother!  |
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Location: South Central Florida | Thank you, I will post again before we leave and when we are there! If people like it they should tell the office staff! |
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| Swannranch - 2015-10-15 7:46 PM
By the way!!! My brother has a display he does at the NBHA Florida state show. He wrote the program and it displays an Unofficial placeing that is current per rider. He did it at the Perry GA show and it was very popular, so he is going back for the Open. If you see it and like it...tell them!!!
I promise you will like it. It lists the current rider, the current leader and the top 26 in each division and changes with each rider. Plus there is a touch screen you can go to and type in the rider number and it will show you what they ran in each go round.
It will be at the end past the 3rd barrel!
YES.. this was at tripl;e crown it was amazing! tell our brother hes my hero.. i dont think they had it at youth world. I remeber they had something similiar at the tunica WBR show several years ago and always wondered how if the technology is there, more shows dont have it. It was awesome!! |
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| CJE - 2015-10-15 8:18 PM
memory - 2015-10-14 9:11 PM
Move it to a more central location and they will come.
I don't think that's it Youth World is unreal at Perry which seems to what draws the crowd.
right? which is even crazier bc open world pays great compared to youth world.. the fees are about the same and youth world the money is split between teen and youth.. so when coming from 8 hours away.. heck my sister placed in teen 1d both rounds and finals and barely made 2k. |
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Location: Rodeos or Baseball games | I have a question: How does one qualify? |
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Location: Missouri | Nevertooold - 2015-10-15 5:02 PM
The NBHA is dying as people are tired of getting ripped off along with their district directors. Texas went from over 1100 entries to lucky to less then we get for a good 5-D open jackpot show.
^^ This. I stopped running NBHA because the payout is just not worth it. Our State show nickle and dimes you to death and if you choose to late enter you are looking at over 100$ in late entries alone, that's before you even pay for your regular entries. For me to spend 300$ for a weekend on ONE horse, I better be able to triple my money. Plus, in my area, an NBHA show takes ALL day. They don't cut off expos, they run pee-wees, youth, then open, and then they take so dang long to get anything going, by the time you run it is almost 5 or 6 in the evening and you've been there since 10am. I wish world was closer for me but it's too expensive to pay entries and haul that far when I have bigger paying shows closer and the entries are half the price. Get it together NBHA or you will be a thing of the past. |
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Location: Southern Indiana | barrelracr131 - 2015-10-16 8:14 AM
Swannranch - 2015-10-15 7:42 PM A couple years ago it was over 1000, last year it was close to 900 if not over 900. This seems to be the lowest since we started going. I think it was 795 but there will be some late entries (you can pay a double entry fee after the deadline and still run but there are only usually 5 or 6)
I always enjoy the week but I do agree the payout needs to be better. It is the best thing we have going on the East coast though. Out west there are so many other good organizations. Here there is only Prorodeo, NBHA and a few IBRA's but the district IBRA show closest to us is not run well (or had serious problems anyway when it started) I won't go back. Also it looked like the National IBRA show was tiny, less than 500 from what I read.
We will have fun no matter what. Some years they win money, other years they don't, but it's usually a good time.
IBRA Nationals show was the same way last year. I don't think they are as "big" as NBHA yet, especially in the western states (as in they don't even have any shows).
I ran last year and had a blast. I think there were almost 400 in the open. It was very well run, and the facility is fantastic.
I didn't do much this year running wise as work kept me very busy, and I picked up a colt. However, I did see that someone broke the arena record this year at Nationals. I think IBRA will continue to grow as (at least in Indiana) it is run pretty well and has decent year end awards. I know that varies from state to state, and I think Indiana is one of the biggest.
I like the NBHA, but it is dying. They need to change up their game. It's getting to be outdated. There are so many big shows that have a better payyout and no late fees. Nobody really wants to trailer race for points and year end awards except maybe kids.
I live in IN and choose not to pay the ibra membership. Why should I when I can go and run anyways. I enjoy going to the state shows, but I could care less about nationals. It's a trailer race for points when half the shows are rinkadinks. The fees are outrageous and who wants to spend a whole week in cloverdale? It's a nice facility for weekend shows, but they have too many races there and there's nothing to do or places to eat in that town. I get that they need to differentiate themselves from the NBHA but there's a lot of rules that don't make sense.
They are loosing their tougher crowd and only drawing the local 4-ders. Back in the day if you had a good horse NBHA supers shows were the shows to chase and they just aren't anymore. Now a days you can run weekend to weekend at big shows and never even have to show local. |
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Location: Midwest | TheDutchMan01 - 2015-10-16 11:52 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-10-16 8:14 AM Swannranch - 2015-10-15 7:42 PM A couple years ago it was over 1000, last year it was close to 900 if not over 900. This seems to be the lowest since we started going. I think it was 795 but there will be some late entries (you can pay a double entry fee after the deadline and still run but there are only usually 5 or 6)
I always enjoy the week but I do agree the payout needs to be better. It is the best thing we have going on the East coast though. Out west there are so many other good organizations. Here there is only Prorodeo, NBHA and a few IBRA's but the district IBRA show closest to us is not run well (or had serious problems anyway when it started) I won't go back. Also it looked like the National IBRA show was tiny, less than 500 from what I read.
We will have fun no matter what. Some years they win money, other years they don't, but it's usually a good time.
IBRA Nationals show was the same way last year. I don't think they are as "big" as NBHA yet, especially in the western states (as in they don't even have any shows).
I ran last year and had a blast. I think there were almost 400 in the open. It was very well run, and the facility is fantastic.
I didn't do much this year running wise as work kept me very busy, and I picked up a colt. However, I did see that someone broke the arena record this year at Nationals. I think IBRA will continue to grow as (at least in Indiana) it is run pretty well and has decent year end awards. I know that varies from state to state, and I think Indiana is one of the biggest.
I like the NBHA, but it is dying. They need to change up their game. It's getting to be outdated. There are so many big shows that have a better payyout and no late fees. Nobody really wants to trailer race for points and year end awards except maybe kids. I live in IN and choose not to pay the ibra membership. Why should I when I can go and run anyways. I enjoy going to the state shows, but I could care less about nationals. It's a trailer race for points when half the shows are rinkadinks. The fees are outrageous and who wants to spend a whole week in cloverdale? It's a nice facility for weekend shows, but they have too many races there and there's nothing to do or places to eat in that town. I get that they need to differentiate themselves from the NBHA but there's a lot of rules that don't make sense. They are loosing their tougher crowd and only drawing the local 4-ders. Back in the day if you had a good horse NBHA supers shows were the shows to chase and they just aren't anymore. Now a days you can run weekend to weekend at big shows and never even have to show local.
I don't pay the NBHA membership for the same reason. I did pay IBRA this year as I'd like to run state and nationals again next year before my horse gets too old (coming 19 this year).
You sure are right about the trailer race. I sure don't chase year ends. Ain't nobody got time for that (since I work full time) |
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| I loved the world show but it's a haul and you have to be able to take off work for a whole week (or more depending on where you are coming from). My last job was a "if you don't work you don't get paid" kind of deal and now that i started my new job I don't get that much vacation time. I agree, shorten it and it would make it much more affordable and easier on people. |
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