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Ringbone treatment/therapy help.
Gunnin to Play
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2015-10-16 3:00 PM
Subject: Ringbone treatment/therapy help.


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So my good horse has ring bone and it's pretty wicked. My vet said he hasn't seen ringbone this bad in several year. (Just my luck, when it rains it hurricanes). Has anyone had any luck with anything to help keep a horse with ringbone comfortable. Her career is pretty much over but I would at least like to do something for her to help keep her happy and comfy. I've started her on Previcox for pain managment. I'm open to suggestions. Shoeing set ups, pads, supplments, vodo..... I figure it can't hurt to try. 
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Fun2Run
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2015-10-16 3:19 PM
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Try Equibone from TLC Animal Nutrition. I used it to help a fracture, but my vet said a client used it for a ringbone and it took the mare from 3-legged lame to broodmare sound. It's expensive but it sure worked for me.  And a bag should last about 3 months. 
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-10-16 3:21 PM
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High or low? As there is one that can be fused and the horse can go back to performance
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ampratt
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-10-16 3:51 PM
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Osphos or Tildren may help
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Gunnin to Play
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2015-10-16 3:54 PM
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cheryl makofka - 2015-10-16 2:21 PM High or low? As there is one that can be fused and the horse can go back to performance

She is not a canidate for fusing, unfortuntaly. My vet hoped when we took the x-rays she would be but when we sent them to the surgon that would be doing the surgery, he said it wouldn't help her. 
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mruggles
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2015-10-16 3:59 PM
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My so's rope horse has it pretty bad. .its very noticeable and its low.....we got it injected over a year ago now and he has not taken a lame step......we do a bit of maintenance before ropings like sore no more. Magnetic bell boots and some bute.....M
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Gunnin to Play
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2015-10-16 4:06 PM
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mruggles - 2015-10-16 2:59 PM My so's rope horse has it pretty bad. .its very noticeable and its low.....we got it injected over a year ago now and he has not taken a lame step......we do a bit of maintenance before ropings like sore no more. Magnetic bell boots and some bute.....M

Do you remeber how long it took to notice a difference after the injection? I had her injected last week and she is still the same.  
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mruggles
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2015-10-16 4:32 PM
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Gunnin to Play - 2015-10-17 3:06 PM

mruggles - 2015-10-16 2:59 PM My so's rope horse has it pretty bad. .its very noticeable and its low.....we got it injected over a year ago now and he has not taken a lame step......we do a bit of maintenance before ropings like sore no more. Magnetic bell boots and some bute.....M

Do you remeber how long it took to notice a difference after the injection? I had her injected last week and she is still the same.  

Didnt take long by the next day he was 100 betterM
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-10-17 7:09 AM
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 I'd give Curost a try before I gave up.  I would start with Total Support and add the Pure at 1/4 to 1/2 scoop a day.  Once you get the inflammation out you probably won't need the Pure until 3days out from run.  
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-10-17 8:35 AM
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 Can you old school nerve a horse like this? ( to keep it pasture sound- not for riding)
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Hummer
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-10-17 8:41 PM
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-10-18 6:09 PM
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ampratt - 2015-10-16 3:51 PM

Osphos or Tildren may help

those are drugs that are designed to slow down the bone break down process. I don't think bisphosphonates would help in a condition like this where theres increased bony production.
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ampratt
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-10-19 7:37 AM
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casualdust07 - 2015-10-18 6:09 PM

ampratt - 2015-10-16 3:51 PM

Osphos or Tildren may help

those are drugs that are designed to slow down the bone break down process. I don't think bisphosphonates would help in a condition like this where theres increased bony production.

Fortunately I have no experience with ringbone but my friend's horse has it. They did Tildren and he is now sound and back to working. Also if you google Tildren/Osphos it lists ringbone may benefit from it. Just throwing it out there as something to discuss with her vet.
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-10-19 8:46 AM
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ampratt - 2015-10-19 7:37 AM

casualdust07 - 2015-10-18 6:09 PM

ampratt - 2015-10-16 3:51 PM

Osphos or Tildren may help

those are drugs that are designed to slow down the bone break down process. I don't think bisphosphonates would help in a condition like this where theres increased bony production.

Fortunately I have no experience with ringbone but my friend's horse has it. They did Tildren and he is now sound and back to working. Also if you google Tildren/Osphos it lists ringbone may benefit from it. Just throwing it out there as something to discuss with her vet.

I haven't had to use it myself either although we are considering trying RLP of tildren on one of my horse's hocks. I did read up on it more after you posted and can see how it would help.. says it slows down the remodeling process, which makes sense to me. I always think of it as a slow down of the breakdown which leads to the common lesions you see in navicular.. but it makes sense that theres break down and then remodeling with ringbone...didn't think of it that way the first time! Shoot, if it can help with ringbone, thats awesome. I had to retire a 3YO because she had ringbone that we assumed was from some sort of traumatic injury as a foal. I traded her for a yearling at the time.. I am really happy with the colt I have now but I had a lot invested in that mare and she was pretty promising. But I didn't even want to go down the road of trying to keep a 3 YO running sound when she wasn't even competing yet and was already showing some issues.
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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-10-19 10:57 AM
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I have a gelding with HIGH ringbone after he fractured the anterior surface of his P2. All of the remodeling stayed on the anterior surface and out of the articulating surfaces of the joint (thank you God). He's sound on it, but boy is it ugly. He gets Pentosan once a month during the "off" season, and every two weeks during the heavy competition times of the year. He also gets the loading Adequan regimen once a year.

Ringbone is no fun. I'm so sorry.
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Gunnin to Play
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2015-10-19 11:01 AM
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svincent - 2015-10-19 9:57 AM I have a gelding with HIGH ringbone after he fractured the anterior surface of his P2. All of the remodeling stayed on the anterior surface and out of the articulating surfaces of the joint (thank you God). He's sound on it, but boy is it ugly. He gets Pentosan once a month during the "off" season, and every two weeks during the heavy competition times of the year. He also gets the loading Adequan regimen once a year. Ringbone is no fun. I'm so sorry.

Ringbone is the devil. When it rains it pours. My colt is finishing up his EPM treatment to top off loosing my rope horse in July from sesamoid fratures.  Thank you everyone for the ideas. We are trying anything and everything we can for her. 
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cowgirl_3207
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-10-19 9:48 PM
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I have been dealing with a horrid case of high ringbone in a hind leg on my gelding. He has had it for years, but it went undiagnoised. Since he was 3 he was showing signs and then it really blew up this year when he turned I think 16 or 17. It was from an injury he sustained at a trainers. He was three legged for the most part. I opted for injections, and NOTHING........ I am so disappointed and depressed over it! I LOVE this gelding, even though he is NOT a barrel horse. He should of been, both of his parents were knock out barrel horses. His ring bone( which was undiagnoised) caused enough issues back then that I went to strictly using him as a ranch horse. With the colder weather sneaking in, it is getting harder and harder for me to watch him out in the field. We did the bute and other pain management options. He developed ulcers and became super irritable which is not like him.I have a feeling that he is in pain all the time and, and that is why his attitude has changed to be so horrible. He has always been the funnest and funniest horse we ever owned. I think I am going to be making that hard decision real soon for him and it is going to kill me
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Gunnin to Play
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2015-10-21 11:48 AM
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cowgirl_3207 - 2015-10-19 8:48 PM I have been dealing with a horrid case of high ringbone in a hind leg on my gelding. He has had it for years, but it went undiagnoised. Since he was 3 he was showing signs and then it really blew up this year when he turned I think 16 or 17. It was from an injury he sustained at a trainers. He was three legged for the most part. I opted for injections, and NOTHING........ I am so disappointed and depressed over it! I LOVE this gelding, even though he is NOT a barrel horse. He should of been, both of his parents were knock out barrel horses. His ring bone( which was undiagnoised) caused enough issues back then that I went to strictly using him as a ranch horse. With the colder weather sneaking in, it is getting harder and harder for me to watch him out in the field. We did the bute and other pain management options. He developed ulcers and became super irritable which is not like him.I have a feeling that he is in pain all the time and, and that is why his attitude has changed to be so horrible. He has always been the funnest and funniest horse we ever owned. I think I am going to be making that hard decision real soon for him and it is going to kill me

I'm in the same boat with this mare. But she went from sore to BAM 3 legged.

I am going to try everything I can for this mare and I am more than willing to share my findings with you. I have her on Previcox right now and that seems to help her as of now. We are going to try Shock Wave therapy. My vet has had 50/50 success with Shock Wave therapy. Might as well give it a shot. 
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cowgirl_3207
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-10-21 12:46 PM
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Gunnin to Play - 2015-10-21 9:48 AM

cowgirl_3207 - 2015-10-19 8:48 PM I have been dealing with a horrid case of high ringbone in a hind leg on my gelding. He has had it for years, but it went undiagnoised. Since he was 3 he was showing signs and then it really blew up this year when he turned I think 16 or 17. It was from an injury he sustained at a trainers. He was three legged for the most part. I opted for injections, and NOTHING........ I am so disappointed and depressed over it! I LOVE this gelding, even though he is NOT a barrel horse. He should of been, both of his parents were knock out barrel horses. His ring bone( which was undiagnoised) caused enough issues back then that I went to strictly using him as a ranch horse. With the colder weather sneaking in, it is getting harder and harder for me to watch him out in the field. We did the bute and other pain management options. He developed ulcers and became super irritable which is not like him.I have a feeling that he is in pain all the time and, and that is why his attitude has changed to be so horrible. He has always been the funnest and funniest horse we ever owned. I think I am going to be making that hard decision real soon for him and it is going to kill me

I'm in the same boat with this mare. But she went from sore to BAM 3 legged.

I am going to try everything I can for this mare and I am more than willing to share my findings with you. I have her on Previcox right now and that seems to help her as of now. We are going to try Shock Wave therapy. My vet has had 50/50 success with Shock Wave therapy. Might as well give it a shot. 

Do you have her xrays? Can you share them with me so I can see how they compare to his. We are battling ulcers now due to the bute and other pain meds from previous months. That and his abdominal muscle on that side is always sore from packing that leg when it bugs him. My vet is pretty grim, even on the surgery since he is fusing abnormally SLOW.
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Omar
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2015-10-21 1:22 PM
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I have a 12 year old gelding that has had ringbone for a couple of years on both front feet. I give him Phycox EQ and bute him the days that I am going to run him. He is also injected every 3-4 months. He is a really nice 1D horse, so I generally ride him a couple times a week, and limit his hauling to runs that really count. I find that he does better turned out with another horse, because that horse will keep him moving. The other thing I did was pull off his shoes, and let him go barefoot. This also seemed to really help him for some reason. Good Luck !!
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-10-22 12:45 AM
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cowgirl_3207 - 2015-10-19 9:48 PM

I have been dealing with a horrid case of high ringbone in a hind leg on my gelding. He has had it for years, but it went undiagnoised. Since he was 3 he was showing signs and then it really blew up this year when he turned I think 16 or 17. It was from an injury he sustained at a trainers. He was three legged for the most part. I opted for injections, and NOTHING........ I am so disappointed and depressed over it! I LOVE this gelding, even though he is NOT a barrel horse. He should of been, both of his parents were knock out barrel horses. His ring bone( which was undiagnoised) caused enough issues back then that I went to strictly using him as a ranch horse. With the colder weather sneaking in, it is getting harder and harder for me to watch him out in the field. We did the bute and other pain management options. He developed ulcers and became super irritable which is not like him.I have a feeling that he is in pain all the time and, and that is why his attitude has changed to be so horrible. He has always been the funnest and funniest horse we ever owned. I think I am going to be making that hard decision real soon for him and it is going to kill me

prayers for you and the OP

Edited by Chandler's Mom 2015-10-22 12:47 AM
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