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| I feed whole oats, a squirt of Noni, 2tsp of Turmeric golden paste (you can google the recipe-it's like homemade cur-ost), 1/2 cup milled flax, and quality mineral. Every other month I do 2tbsp of liquid chlorophyll/day to cleanse his blood and keep him healthy (recon by live blood analysis lady). My horse is on pasture, and gets once flake of grass hay twice daily as we're almost out of grass... That will obviously increase once the snow flies. My horse has been running better than he has in a long time (3 years to be exact) since I started him on this almost 3 months ago, and he's absolutely glowing even with his winter coat coming in. |
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| keep them coming guys about to go to the feed store to replenish the bins for the month! |
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Location: North Dakota | Honestly I don't think you can go wrong with whole oats, alfalfa in some form, whole flax seeds (or stabilized ground flax), and an optional fat supplement such as Renew Gold or rice bran. Simple to feed, I don't know any horses that won't eat it, and you can play with the amounts of each ingredient to get the right balance to keep your horse in good condition.
I like
2-4lbs oats
4-6 lbs alfalfa
I feed SmartOmega3 from smartpak but you could do 1/2-1 cup whole flax
1/2lb Renew Gold
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| cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-10-19 2:52 PM
Honestly I don't think you can go wrong with whole oats, alfalfa in some form, whole flax seeds (or stabilized ground flax), and an optional fat supplement such as Renew Gold or rice bran. Simple to feed, I don't know any horses that won't eat it, and you can play with the amounts of each ingredient to get the right balance to keep your horse in good condition.
I like
2-4lbs oats
4-6 lbs alfalfa
I feed SmartOmega3 from smartpak but you could do 1/2-1 cup whole flax
1/2lb Renew Gold
As much grass/grass hay as they want.
do you feed a vit/min or does renew gold do that for you? |
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Location: North Dakota | Thistle2011 - 2015-10-19 3:16 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-10-19 2:52 PM Honestly I don't think you can go wrong with whole oats, alfalfa in some form, whole flax seeds (or stabilized ground flax), and an optional fat supplement such as Renew Gold or rice bran. Simple to feed, I don't know any horses that won't eat it, and you can play with the amounts of each ingredient to get the right balance to keep your horse in good condition.
I like
2-4lbs oats
4-6 lbs alfalfa
I feed SmartOmega3 from smartpak but you could do 1/2-1 cup whole flax
1/2lb Renew Gold
As much grass/grass hay as they want. do you feed a vit/min or does renew gold do that for you?
The Renew Gold doesn't have any added vitamins/minerals since it isn't a "complete" feed. Initially I was buying the Progressive Nutrition grass balancer to go with the stuff I listed above, but I'm finishing out my supply and not getting any more. The more research I do, the more it points to synthetic vitamins that you find in most supplements aren't absorbed well and basically a waste of money. As long as everything you're feeding is good quality you shouldn't need any supplements. There might be some exceptions if the land in your area is deficient in something like selenium for example. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Back when I was feeding grains, I fed half & half oats and barley, hard keepers got a little cracked corn with it. I fed a cup each of soybean meal and ground flax, a general loose mineral mix, and Alf cubes, grass hay. Everyone looked good and had tons of energy. When straight grains went to $17 a bag and 10% all grain was $12, I want to the all grain -a lot cheaper when you have as many as we do. |
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Location: North Dakota | Check with your feed mill for the flax....You might be able to buy it whole in a 50 pound sack. I buy it rolled in a 50 pound bag but I feed 5 horses and it doesn't get rancid the way I store it. Sometimes I buy the whole in the summer if I worry about rancidity. I paid $25 for a 50 pound bag last week so even if you have to throw half the bag away it really is probably the cheapest form if you can get it. Put it in the freezer if you have freezer space. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Thistle2011 - 2015-10-19 3:16 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-10-19 2:52 PM Honestly I don't think you can go wrong with whole oats, alfalfa in some form, whole flax seeds (or stabilized ground flax), and an optional fat supplement such as Renew Gold or rice bran. Simple to feed, I don't know any horses that won't eat it, and you can play with the amounts of each ingredient to get the right balance to keep your horse in good condition.
I like
2-4lbs oats
4-6 lbs alfalfa
I feed SmartOmega3 from smartpak but you could do 1/2-1 cup whole flax
1/2lb Renew Gold
As much grass/grass hay as they want. do you feed a vit/min or does renew gold do that for you?
This is my feed program, however, I have redmond mineral/salt rocks out for the horses. If my hay quality is not top quality I see them using the rocks more.
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | 1,200 # whole oats
300# cracked corn
200# High protein Soybean meal
100 # Molassis
100 # Alfalfa pellets
50# Bran
20# mineral
15# Vitamins
32# Soy oil ( fat )
100# Beet shreds
20# trace mineral salt
6# feeding lime ( same as us eating a Tums )
They are on a 50 % grass and 50 % alfalfa pasture 24/7
They get 2.5 # per feeding 2 times a day.
This is $ 410.00 a ton bagged at my local feed mill.
You could tweek the ingrediance if you want.
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Location: Willows, CA | Thistle2011 - 2015-10-19 3:16 PM
cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-10-19 2:52 PM
Honestly I don't think you can go wrong with whole oats, alfalfa in some form, whole flax seeds (or stabilized ground flax), and an optional fat supplement such as Renew Gold or rice bran. Simple to feed, I don't know any horses that won't eat it, and you can play with the amounts of each ingredient to get the right balance to keep your horse in good condition.
I like
2-4lbs oats
4-6 lbs alfalfa
I feed SmartOmega3 from smartpak but you could do 1/2-1 cup whole flax
1/2lb Renew Gold
As much grass/grass hay as they want.
do you feed a vit/min or does renew gold do that for you?
As to Vitamins in Renew Gold. It is a very significant source of needed Fat Soluble Vitamins. These are naturally occurring in our ingredients, not added synthetics, so we do not list that on the ingredient list. As to water soluble vitamins, in the vast majority of diets a horse will make what it needs IF it has a normal functioning hind gut. This is not the case with high grain based feeds if more that a pound or two is fed per feeding. If you want to feed grain based concentrates, please break them up to as many feedings per day as possible. This allows more of the starches and sugars to be broken down higher in the digestive system. This, in turn, helps avoid a disruption to hind gut function and the production of water soluble vitamins that occurs there if working normally.
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| Flax looses a lot of nutrients once ground and exposed to air. Also if it isn't cold pressed it can go rancid fast.
Things to consider
What are you wanting the feed to do?
To extend the hay?
Provide additional nourishment?
Provide additional fat?
Provide additional calories?
What type of horse are you feeding?
Under a year?
Under 3 yrs?
Mature pasture pet?
2-4 yrs and in training?
Competitive horse?
Easy keeper?
Ulcer prone?
Insulin resistant?
Brood mare?
I have different ages of horses, and their feed program varies depending on the above.
My horses get hay or pasture 24/7
For grain
I start out with
Oats, 1-3 lbs depending on the body condition of the horse
1 cup of whole flax, as the reading in nutrition text books say horses get the same nutrient value whole versus cold pressed flax.
Oil 60 ml, I use canola, yes it has the wrong omega ratio, but the flax does correct for this.
Pineapple juice 60-100 ml, this is to prevent cough, and helps them eat their feed when I have to medicate.
If I have to add excess calories, I like to add whole barley, and soak it over night.
I will add red cell if they are lethargic
If they are ulcer prone, I will add papaya puréed, and treat for ulcers for 30 days, then a probiotic for 30 days, then back to the above.
If I am concerned about joints, I give Lubrysin, I am still toying with the idea of adding a powder joint preventative. I focus on prevention. Someone posted literature showing administering powdered joint supplements decreased the incidence of joint problems later on, if administered before any breakdown occurred.
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| Ok here we go we are starting out with (daily split in 2 feedings)
41/2 lb alfalfa pellets
1 lb whole oats
1 lb renew gold
3/4 cup whole flax
Forco
Free choice good prairie hay
Free choice Redmond
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Location: SW MO | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-10-19 2:52 PM
Honestly I don't think you can go wrong with whole oats, alfalfa in some form, whole flax seeds (or stabilized ground flax), and an optional fat supplement such as Renew Gold or rice bran. Simple to feed, I don't know any horses that won't eat it, and you can play with the amounts of each ingredient to get the right balance to keep your horse in good condition.
I like
2-4lbs oats
4-6 lbs alfalfa
I feed SmartOmega3 from smartpak but you could do 1/2-1 cup whole flax
1/2lb Renew Gold
As much grass/grass hay as they want.
I didn't think horses could process whole flax seed???? I thought it just passed through them unless you ground it |
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Location: North Dakota | uno-dos-tres! - 2015-10-19 3:51 PM Thistle2011 - 2015-10-19 3:16 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-10-19 2:52 PM Honestly I don't think you can go wrong with whole oats, alfalfa in some form, whole flax seeds (or stabilized ground flax), and an optional fat supplement such as Renew Gold or rice bran. Simple to feed, I don't know any horses that won't eat it, and you can play with the amounts of each ingredient to get the right balance to keep your horse in good condition.
I like
2-4lbs oats
4-6 lbs alfalfa
I feed SmartOmega3 from smartpak but you could do 1/2-1 cup whole flax
1/2lb Renew Gold
As much grass/grass hay as they want. do you feed a vit/min or does renew gold do that for you?
I have mares, babies and hauling horses on this diet.
Oh yes that is a good idea to have the rocks out. I have them as well but my horse never uses his. I guess he's getting all he needs.  |
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Location: North Dakota | crossspur - 2015-10-20 8:37 AM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-10-19 2:52 PM Honestly I don't think you can go wrong with whole oats, alfalfa in some form, whole flax seeds (or stabilized ground flax), and an optional fat supplement such as Renew Gold or rice bran. Simple to feed, I don't know any horses that won't eat it, and you can play with the amounts of each ingredient to get the right balance to keep your horse in good condition.
I like
2-4lbs oats
4-6 lbs alfalfa
I feed SmartOmega3 from smartpak but you could do 1/2-1 cup whole flax
1/2lb Renew Gold
As much grass/grass hay as they want. I didn't think horses could process whole flax seed???? I thought it just passed through them unless you ground it
It is widely believed that they can't process whole flax but per the research I've seen that has been proven false. As long as your horse has normal teeth he will have no trouble with whole flax. And it won't go rancid on you which is good.  |
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Location: North Dakota | This is my opinion only and from my experience only, but my horses look better when they get their cup of feed mill rolled flax...not cold pressed not whole. Cold pressed is expensive and whole sticks to their nose and they loose about a tablespoon per feeding. Keep in mind I have 5 horses so I can go through a large sack of rolled flax pretty quickly. If I didn't have that many horses I would put half that bag in the deep freeze to keep if better longer. I've fed different things over the years-many different things and the one thing I will NEVER go without for my guys is their flax and I prefer it cheap and ground which is easiest for me and I think better for them. |
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Location: North Dakota | LMS - 2015-10-20 9:15 AM This is my opinion only and from my experience only, but my horses look better when they get their cup of feed mill rolled flax...not cold pressed not whole. Cold pressed is expensive and whole sticks to their nose and they loose about a tablespoon per feeding. Keep in mind I have 5 horses so I can go through a large sack of rolled flax pretty quickly. If I didn't have that many horses I would put half that bag in the deep freeze to keep if better longer. I've fed different things over the years-many different things and the one thing I will NEVER go without for my guys is their flax and I prefer it cheap and ground which is easiest for me and I think better for them.
Yeah, if you can get through a bag of rolled quickly then it's not much of an issue. I am down to one horse so it takes a long time to get through a bag. Personally I've never had issues with them not finishing flax or getting it stuck to their nose. But because of how impossible it is to get around here I prefer the flax supplement from Smartpak. My horse cleans it up and it's more concentrated then whole or rolled flax. |
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Location: North Dakota | winwillows - 2015-10-19 6:58 PM Thistle2011 - 2015-10-19 3:16 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-10-19 2:52 PM Honestly I don't think you can go wrong with whole oats, alfalfa in some form, whole flax seeds (or stabilized ground flax), and an optional fat supplement such as Renew Gold or rice bran. Simple to feed, I don't know any horses that won't eat it, and you can play with the amounts of each ingredient to get the right balance to keep your horse in good condition.
I like
2-4lbs oats
4-6 lbs alfalfa
I feed SmartOmega3 from smartpak but you could do 1/2-1 cup whole flax
1/2-1lb Renew Gold
As much grass/grass hay as they want.
And the above list is split into 2 feedings.
do you feed a vit/min or does renew gold do that for you? As to Vitamins in Renew Gold. It is a very significant source of needed Fat Soluble Vitamins. These are naturally occurring in our ingredients, not added synthetics, so we do not list that on the ingredient list. As to water soluble vitamins, in the vast majority of diets a horse will make what it needs IF it has a normal functioning hind gut. This is not the case with high grain based feeds if more that a pound or two is fed per feeding. If you want to feed grain based concentrates, please break them up to as many feedings per day as possible. This allows more of the starches and sugars to be broken down higher in the digestive system. This, in turn, helps avoid a disruption to hind gut function and the production of water soluble vitamins that occurs there if working normally.
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Location: North Dakota | So I went to the smartpak website.....I feed 5 head of horses for less than you feed 1 horse ANY type of flax supplement they offer. It is not hard to get "around here" I'm from where you are-if you want whole flax seed Hubbard sells that too...by the bag for less than $25 for 50 pounds. You could throw most of the bag away and still be cheaper than smartpak and know what you're getting. Whole seed or natural is always better plus, you are most likely supporting a local ND farmer.
And with that folks.....I am done here. I hope the OP finds the right combination of what she's looking for....I always find myself in a struggle with doing what is right. |
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Location: cincinnati, oh | I thought the Renew Gold already had the needed amount of Flax in it? Why add additional Flax if you are feeding Renew Gold? |
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Location: West Texas | Most people recommend 4 to 8 ounces of flax daily. I prefer to feed around the 8 ounce mark, which is 1/2 lb.
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Location: North Dakota | skeeter7 - 2015-10-20 10:32 AM I thought the Renew Gold already had the needed amount of Flax in it? Why add additional Flax if you are feeding Renew Gold?
It has flax but per the bag, it is still higher in omega 6's because rice bran is very high in omega 6 and it contains more rice bran than flax. If your horse is out on quality fresh pasture all day then they should be getting all the omega 3's they need from the grass. BUT if your horse is fed hay, especially hay that's been stored for a few months, your horse probably isn't getting all the omega 3's they need, and flax is a good way to balance that out. My horse lives in a dirt pen with no grazing, just grass hay, so he needs flax to balance his diet. I can see the difference too! |
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Location: North Dakota | LMS - 2015-10-20 10:30 AM So I went to the smartpak website.....I feed 5 head of horses for less than you feed 1 horse ANY type of flax supplement they offer. It is not hard to get "around here" I'm from where you are-if you want whole flax seed Hubbard sells that too...by the bag for less than $25 for 50 pounds. You could throw most of the bag away and still be cheaper than smartpak and know what you're getting. Whole seed or natural is always better plus, you are most likely supporting a local ND farmer. And with that folks.....I am done here. I hope the OP finds the right combination of what she's looking for....I always find myself in a struggle with doing what is right.
Okaaaay... I called Hubbard twice and they told me they do not carry whole flax. And will not feed rolled because it will lose all benefits and/or go rancid before I can finish it. I've googled the matter to death and called a bunch of places and they all tell me they don't stock whole flax. The only way was to have 25lb boxes of it shipped to me, and then I have to get baggies and measure out individual daily amounts for my barn to feed. If your program works for you that's swell, but for me, it's a lot easier to have it added to my Smartpaks so that's what I will continue to do.
ETA-I found the place I got it from. $65 for 25lbs. Another place was $114 for 50lbs. Another was $98.50+shipping for 54lbs. And I called everywhere that was recommended to me by people and google and didn't find any whole flax locally.
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| I opted to increase flax because I won't have pasture for the winter. I looked up whole flax before I purchased and they can absorb it and boy is it a pretty bag of flax. |
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Location: Willows, CA | The Omega 6 / Omega 3 relationship is one of the most misunderstood issues today in horse nutrition. The search for more Omega 3 as inflammation control is a direct result of human studies that showed value. There has been very little actual horse related work done on this, but most think there may be a direct effect. The main difference between the horse and human relationship of Omega 3s is the diet. A horse can get a lot of Omega 3 in its roughage. Even in most good quality cured hay, there is a significant amount. This is not present in the human diet, where Omega 3s are cooked out of most of its natural sources, and supplementing Omega 3 makes sense. Adding a significant Omega 3 source to a horses diet that feeds a significant amount of grain makes sense as those types of feeds are very high in Omega 6s. There may also be value to adding more Omega 3 to a Renew Gold diet if the hay or roughage quality is low. With good pasture or good quality hay, however, it should not be necessary. As to Omega 6, this is an essential fatty acid also. You do not want to overwhelm this with too much Omega 3. One of the things that Omega 6 does is generate inflammation for acute injury. A certain amount of this type of inflammation increases blood flow and will initiate healing. This is different than chronic inflammation from something like arthritic changes. You want to be able to generate acute inflammation. So, if you are feeding grain based feed with poor quality hay you may well benefit from added Omega 3. If your hay quality or pasture is good, there should be all the Omega 3 in that diet that your horse can use. A change in bloom or condition from adding more flax is a direct result of added calories, not the Omega 3 that is present in the Flax.
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Location: West Texas | Win, when feeding 1-2 lbs of Renew Gold, as recommended, how many ounces of flax would one be feeding? Thanks |
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Location: Willows, CA | Tdove - 2015-10-20 12:18 PM
Win, when feeding 1-2 lbs of Renew Gold, as recommended, how many ounces of flax would one be feeding? Thanks
Between 3 and 4 oz. I like this number with quality roughage and it works great in combination with the other ingredient profiles that we blend it with. I have no issue with people adding more flax if they like. But, the result that you see from that is from the added calories not a change in the Omega 6/ Omega 3 ratio. That was the point I was trying to make.
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1/2 cup whole flax (my feed mill sells it for $39 for 50 lb sack)
Alfalfa and grass hay
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Location: North Dakota | winwillows - 2015-10-20 11:50 AM The Omega 6 / Omega 3 relationship is one of the most misunderstood issues today in horse nutrition. The search for more Omega 3 as inflammation control is a direct result of human studies that showed value. There has been very little actual horse related work done on this, but most think there may be a direct effect. The main difference between the horse and human relationship of Omega 3s is the diet. A horse can get a lot of Omega 3 in its roughage. Even in most good quality cured hay, there is a significant amount. This is not present in the human diet, where Omega 3s are cooked out of most of its natural sources, and supplementing Omega 3 makes sense. Adding a significant Omega 3 source to a horses diet that feeds a significant amount of grain makes sense as those types of feeds are very high in Omega 6s. There may also be value to adding more Omega 3 to a Renew Gold diet if the hay or roughage quality is low. With good pasture or good quality hay, however, it should not be necessary. As to Omega 6, this is an essential fatty acid also. You do not want to overwhelm this with too much Omega 3. One of the things that Omega 6 does is generate inflammation for acute injury. A certain amount of this type of inflammation increases blood flow and will initiate healing. This is different than chronic inflammation from something like arthritic changes. You want to be able to generate acute inflammation. So, if you are feeding grain based feed with poor quality hay you may well benefit from added Omega 3. If your hay quality or pasture is good, there should be all the Omega 3 in that diet that your horse can use. A change in bloom or condition from adding more flax is a direct result of added calories, not the Omega 3 that is present in the Flax. And my hay is sh!t so...that's where my use of flax comes in. If I could feed hay that wasn't supplied by my boarding barn, I would.
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| cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-10-20 11:31 AM
LMS - 2015-10-20 10:30 AM So I went to the smartpak website.....I feed 5 head of horses for less than you feed 1 horse ANY type of flax supplement they offer. It is not hard to get "around here" I'm from where you are-if you want whole flax seed Hubbard sells that too...by the bag for less than $25 for 50 pounds. You could throw most of the bag away and still be cheaper than smartpak and know what you're getting. Whole seed or natural is always better plus, you are most likely supporting a local ND farmer. And with that folks.....I am done here. I hope the OP finds the right combination of what she's looking for....I always find myself in a struggle with doing what is right. Okaaaay... I called Hubbard twice and they told me they do not carry whole flax. And will not feed rolled because it will lose all benefits and/or go rancid before I can finish it. I've googled the matter to death and called a bunch of places and they all tell me they don't stock whole flax. The only way was to have 25lb boxes of it shipped to me, and then I have to get baggies and measure out individual daily amounts for my barn to feed. If your program works for you that's swell, but for me, it's a lot easier to have it added to my Smartpaks so that's what I will continue to do.
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| I asked my local feed store yesterday if they had whole flax .. they will order for me on a as needed basis. 50lb for $41.00 So I haven't ever fed whole flax before. I'm feeding 3 horses. They are on poor pasture and less than mediocre hay in the form of a roundbale so I am wanting to fill in some gaps in their nutrition. How can you tell once the flax has gone bad? |
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Location: North Dakota | It will smell bad-sort of like stale popcorn or peanut butter......if you have the storage capability put a large zip bag full or two in your deep freeze. It will keep that way for a long time. |
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| BS Hauler - 2015-10-19 5:08 PM
1,200 # whole oats
300# cracked corn
200# High protein Soybean meal
100 # Molassis
100 # Alfalfa pellets
50# Bran
20# mineral
15# Vitamins
32# Soy oil ( fat )
100# Beet shreds
20# trace mineral salt
6# feeding lime ( same as us eating a Tums )
They are on a 50 % grass and 50 % alfalfa pasture 24/7
They get 2.5 # per feeding 2 times a day.
This is $ 410.00 a ton bagged at my local feed mill.
You could tweek the ingrediance if you want.
Do you happen to know the analysis of this feed mixture?
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | No I don't.
I used a feed recipie that I got from Iowa State University and one that the feed mill mixes up for their horse feed and I tweeked it for my own mix. I took some of the corn out of the mix that ISU had and added some of the other ingrediants to come back to a 2,000# mix.
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Location: West Texas | want2chase3 - 2015-10-23 7:44 AM
I asked my local feed store yesterday if they had whole flax .. they will order for me on a as needed basis. 50lb for $41.00 So I haven't ever fed whole flax before. I'm feeding 3 horses. They are on poor pasture and less than mediocre hay in the form of a roundbale so I am wanting to fill in some gaps in their nutrition. How can you tell once the flax has gone bad?
Whole flax will stay good for a long time, most likely about a year. Feeding 3 horses 4-8 ounces daily, you should go through it in about 1-2 months. If you are interested, I believe Barfield Hay has Omnis in stock now as well.
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| Tdove - 2015-10-23 10:07 AM
want2chase3 - 2015-10-23 7:44 AM
I asked my local feed store yesterday if they had whole flax .. they will order for me on a as needed basis. 50lb for $41.00 So I haven't ever fed whole flax before. I'm feeding 3 horses. They are on poor pasture and less than mediocre hay in the form of a roundbale so I am wanting to fill in some gaps in their nutrition. How can you tell once the flax has gone bad?
Whole flax will stay good for a long time, most likely about a year. Feeding 3 horses 4-8 ounces daily, you should go through it in about 1-2 months. If you are interested, I believe Barfield Hay has Omnis in stock now as well.
Oh good on the cubes! I got a few bags from them when I first got here but he wasn't absolutely sure he'd keep it in stock or not. Good to know! I'm waiting till my barn gets built to get them back on the cubes because they tend to bolt their feed being turned out all together and my choke prone horse is the absolute worst. When I had them in nm they had individual stalls with large feeders so he really had no issues with the cubes. But yes I know those cubes would fit perfectly into my current feed program. |
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| BS Hauler - 2015-10-23 9:55 AM
No I don't.
I used a feed recipie that I got from Iowa State University and one that the feed mill mixes up for their horse feed and I tweeked it for my own mix. I took some of the corn out of the mix that ISU had and added some of the other ingrediants to come back to a 2,000# mix.
So my program here at the feed store doesn't take into consideration beet pulp and I cant add your vitamins to it but your mix looks like a 13.5% protein, 5.5% fat. Incase you were wondering :) |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Thank you for the reply. Do you think that I should tweek it differantly. I am always up for more knowledge. |
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anyone have feed recipies?