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Location: Oklahoma | I know it's being nit picky, but if they can give Chayni the credit for winning the American Semis, why not Lisa credit for winning the entire production 2x? & just for the record I'm not trying to take away from any of them. |
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Location: Texas | Longneck - 2015-10-21 5:29 PM I know it's being nit picky, but if they can give Chayni the credit for winning the American Semis, why not Lisa credit for winning the entire production 2x? & just for the record I'm not trying to take away from any of them.
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| Why no Angie Meadors? Danyelle Campbell? They do a lot of modeling, ride a lot of good horses and have been to the NFR. What about Molly Powell? She can jump on any horse and win. She's a jockey!! Tammy Fischer? Jackie Dube J always brings people to the fences.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I would like to know who they have in reserve incase one of these contestants gets hurt?
I'm sure it was hard trying to figure out who was going to be the top 10. Hopefully after the first year it will be decided by money won. |
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| sodapop - 2015-10-21 6:27 PM
Why no Angie Meadors? Danyelle Campbell? They do a lot of modeling, ride a lot of good horses and have been to the NFR. What about Molly Powell? She can jump on any horse and win. She's a jockey!! Tammy Fischer? Jackie Dube J always brings people to the fences.
All great jockeys but looks like they picked ones who have most recently been in the spotlight so to speak, names they think will sell more tickets. |
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Location: MD | There were some very wise choices made in picking these contestants, from a PR perspective. There are just enough actual top barrel racers to keep real fan attention and then the ones that draw in a large amount of people with good public interest stories. |
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| sodapop - 2015-10-21 4:27 PM
Why no Angie Meadors? Danyelle Campbell? They do a lot of modeling, ride a lot of good horses and have been to the NFR. What about Molly Powell? She can jump on any horse and win. She's a jockey!! Tammy Fischer? Jackie Dube J always brings people to the fences.
Maybe they didn't want to agree to whatever the contract is, or couldn't make it work in their schedules. |
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Well... that did it for me. I'm happy for Chayni, but that just took it out of "professional" for me. I don't think that kids should be allowed in... not that my opinion matters two doodles! LOL
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| grinandbareit - 2015-10-21 9:10 PM Well... that did it for me. I'm happy for Chayni, but that just took it out of "professional" for me. I don't think that kids should be allowed in... not that my opinion matters two doodles! LOL Charmayne won I think 5 of her World Championships between the ages of 14-18 back when there was no age limit. If there had been an age limit, she would not likely be an 11 time world champion just based on the age Scamper came into her life. So of course, she is going to be open to all ages being allowed to compete. Fallon Taylor qualified for the NFR under the age of 18 before the age limit rule. I do think Angie Meadors had a qualification or even 2 under the age of 18 before the age limit change. Could be wrong about Angie, but for some reason I feel like she had at least one qualification under 18.
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| 3 To Go - 2015-10-21 8:24 PM sodapop - 2015-10-21 4:27 PM Why no Angie Meadors? Danyelle Campbell? They do a lot of modeling, ride a lot of good horses and have been to the NFR. What about Molly Powell? She can jump on any horse and win. She's a jockey!! Tammy Fischer? Jackie Dube J always brings people to the fences. Maybe they didn't want to agree to whatever the contract is, or couldn't make it work in their schedules.
Very true. I also wondered if the ones listed have any financial investment in the ERA. Maybe not. Just something to make you say hmmm....... |
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| Nevertooold - 2015-10-21 7:04 PM I would like to know who they have in reserve incase one of these contestants gets hurt?
I'm sure it was hard trying to figure out who was going to be the top 10. Hopefully after the first year it will be decided by money won. That's a good question NTO. I am guessing that will be part of the qualifying process. I am only guessing it will be similar to the PBR. They have the big events with the top 45 or so and then their smaller challenger events. When someone starts losing too much, they are booted off the tour and bumped back to the challenger event level while a challenger contestant on the rise with lots of wins replaces the bumped tour contestant. If someone gets hurt, they go to the next highest point earner from their challenger events. Maybe it will be something like that.
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| I wonder if the ERA will have commentators with grammar similar to the PBR. I just heard a PBR Finals commentator say "Me and you growed up". "When you WAS..." Not really "professional" to me, but it's not my call. LOL
The PBR Finals started tonight. It's on tv right now.
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Location: The edge of no where | WrapSnap - 2015-10-21 7:33 PM There were some very wise choices made in picking these contestants, from a PR perspective. There are just enough actual top barrel racers to keep real fan attention and then the ones that draw in a large amount of people with good public interest stories.
I think it's a great line up! They had to start somewhere and after the first year you will have to qualify. There are so many positives about having these girls for the start up. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | grinandbareit - 2015-10-21 9:10 PM Well... that did it for me. I'm happy for Chayni, but that just took it out of "professional" for me. I don't think that kids should be allowed in... not that my opinion matters two doodles! LOL
The word "professional" does not appear in their name....Elite Rodeo Association |
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Location: Texas | NJJ - 2015-10-21 9:47 PM
grinandbareit - 2015-10-21 9:10 PM Well... that did it for me. I'm happy for Chayni, but that just took it out of "professional" for me. I don't think that kids should be allowed in... not that my opinion matters two doodles! LOL
The word "professional" does not appear in their name....Elite Rodeo Association
You're right about that... maybe that's why. Maybe because I have raised my kids, but I just feel like there should be some things that are reserved for adults only. I guess I'm old school. I don't like that kids go to Vegas... Who wants to take their kids to Vegas???? Go to Disney for Pete's sake, and leave us some grown up stuff that we can do, kid free, that doesn't have XXX over the door. :/
PS... I LOVE kids... I have four of my own and five grandbabies that I adore. BUT there are some places that I think should be left for the adults.
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Location: MD | I think it's super cool that the ERA is allowing a youngun' in. As was stated, Charmayne started winning world titles as a teen. Fallon, Angie, Rachel Myllimaki, Lindsay Hays and a host of others were making runs at the NFR as pre teens and teenagers. I think it's great to see Chayni being invited to perform on such a large stage and I think that she'll draw a ton of fans to the organization to see her. |
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Location: Texas | I would rather see Karsyn Daniels up there if there's gonna be a young one competing. That little girl is impressive, in and out of the arena. No offense to Chayni by any means, but she is just too young imo
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Location: MD | outrundaizy - 2015-10-21 11:50 PM
I would rather see Karsyn Daniels up there if there's gonna be a young one competing. That little girl is impressive, in and out of the arena. No offense to Chayni by any means, but she is just too young imo
The lineup will be totally different when you have to qualify.
I love Karsyn and her family are good people, but if we think of what Karsyn was exposed to at a much younger age than Chayni is now, your point about her being too young becomes moot... |
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| sodapop - 2015-10-21 6:27 PM
Why no Angie Meadors? Danyelle Campbell? They do a lot of modeling, ride a lot of good horses and have been to the NFR. What about Molly Powell? She can jump on any horse and win. She's a jockey!! Tammy Fischer? Jackie Dube J always brings people to the fences.
Agree. who wouldn't come to see the Wild Child! |
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Location: Driving, Grooming, or Saddling for a Kid! | Bear - 2015-10-21 10:55 PM What does Bubba think of this?
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Location: Texas!! | I will watch it if it's on TV. I'm a fan of several of these young ladies!! But, GO Taylor!! Also, I have to admit I think June Holeman is a huge inspiration to me as a middle age barrel racer..... I would like to see both ends of that spectrum. If they choose really young then lets have older too!! I wish Chanyi the best of luck though, I really enjoyed watching her in the American. |
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Location: Texas | So.. is that the entire roster? Like, are those the only ones we will see at ERA events? Or is that just their top whoever? I am confused.. |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.
I don't think most of these girls were really "picked". I read yesterday that every person in each event had to pay so much in and have a % of the "Company". I think this is going to be about who has the most money....I hope I am proven wrong and it turns out to be just what our sport needs. |
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Location: Texas!! | Casualdust07, That's the same thing we were wondering, over coffee....lol I haven't kept up this too well.
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Location: North Dakota | Longneck - 2015-10-21 5:29 PM I know it's being nit picky, but if they can give Chayni the credit for winning the American Semis, why not Lisa credit for winning the entire production 2x? & just for the record I'm not trying to take away from any of them.
Lisa is listed on their "Athletes" tab on the ERA website. (Scroll down a little)
But not everyone is listed on that tab? Unsure of how the "Athletes" are different from the "Roster".
https://eraprorodeo.com/riders/
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Location: Northwest Florida | casualdust07 - 2015-10-22 9:07 AM
So.. is that the entire roster? Like, are those the only ones we will see at ERA events? Or is that just their top whoever? I am confused..
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | My thoughts are that, this year, they chose those who will DRAW a crowd to watch them (anywhere) and they chose well! Unfortunately, some will never be satisfied with who has been chosen......but then again, they don't "own" the association..... |
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| r_beau - 2015-10-22 10:07 AM
Longneck - 2015-10-21 5:29 PM I know it's being nit picky, but if they can give Chayni the credit for winning the American Semis, why not Lisa credit for winning the entire production 2x? & just for the record I'm not trying to take away from any of them.
Lisa is listed on their "Athletes" tab on the ERA website. (Scroll down a little)
But not everyone is listed on that tab? Unsure of how the "Athletes" are different from the "Roster".
https://eraprorodeo.com/riders/
Maybe it is incomplete but I love that none of the women have height/weight listed .... surprised they put their DOB  |
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| Bear - 2015-10-21 11:55 PM What does Bubba think of this?
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| casualdust07 - 2015-10-22 9:07 AM So.. is that the entire roster? Like, are those the only ones we will see at ERA events? Or is that just their top whoever? I am confused..
I think they are the only contestants for the first year. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | stayceem - 2015-10-22 10:46 AM
r_beau - 2015-10-22 10:07 AM
Longneck - 2015-10-21 5:29 PM I know it's being nit picky, but if they can give Chayni the credit for winning the American Semis, why not Lisa credit for winning the entire production 2x? & just for the record I'm not trying to take away from any of them.
Lisa is listed on their "Athletes" tab on the ERA website. (Scroll down a little)
But not everyone is listed on that tab? Unsure of how the "Athletes" are different from the "Roster".
https://eraprorodeo.com/riders/
Maybe it is incomplete but I love that none of the women have height/weight listed .... surprised they put their DOB
I wonder if this had something to do with stressing Chayni's age and might not normally have been done. As it currently stands, it seems the sort of 'stats' like one would have for a baseball card, making rodeo seem more mainstream. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I had asked if they have alternates but I never got an answer. What are they going to do if someone gets hurt? Who is going to take their place.
These are the 10 that will be competing at each of their rodeos in 2016 and then they will have a finals in Dallas.
I would like to know how the others are going to compete in order to qualify to be one of the top 10 the following year? |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | Nevertooold - 2015-10-22 12:06 PM I had asked if they have alternates but I never got an answer. What are they going to do if someone gets hurt? Who is going to take their place.
These are the 10 that will be competing at each of their rodeos in 2016 and then they will have a finals in Dallas.
I would like to know how the others are going to compete in order to qualify to be one of the top 10 the following year?
I think it would be kind of cool if they set it up kind of like the PBR does it. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Beginning this week, the ERA will release its 2016 tour roster by event throughout the month of October. The 2016 ERA Tour Roster was filled by peer draft, which was made up of founding ERA members who are considered to be the best athletes in the world. They based their decision on a variety of criteria, some of which included: history in the sport, world championship appearances, fan appeal, ability, and they even identified talented up and comers who will be the sports future stars. In the end they selected based on talent, and whom they thought could compete at a very high level.
The 2016 ERA roster is the most decorated group of professional rodeo contestants and has more world champions among them than any other rodeo organization in the world, making each event a must watch for rodeo fans.
There were 10 spots to fill per event for the 2016 tour. Athletes desiring to make the ERA Tour will have the opportunity to earn their way onto the 2017 tour through the qualification system.
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| Nevertooold - 2015-10-22 1:06 PM I had asked if they have alternates but I never got an answer. What are they going to do if someone gets hurt? Who is going to take their place.
These are the 10 that will be competing at each of their rodeos in 2016 and then they will have a finals in Dallas.
I would like to know how the others are going to compete in order to qualify to be one of the top 10 the following year?
My question too, how those who come up through the quaifers will take the place of the current roster. How does the 2016 roster make the cut for next year's tour, top 4/5 come back etc. ? |
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| I actually think these are going to be boring to watch! But that is just me!!Same 10 people every rodeo? It isn't that exciting. Maybe if they took 20 an event it would be different. Not my idea of exciting.
And I too am shocked they took a little girl. Just doesn't seem very Elite. But money talks! |
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Location: MD | SassyPirate - 2015-10-22 2:17 PM
I actually think these are going to be boring to watch! But that is just me!!Same 10 people every rodeo? It isn't that exciting. Maybe if they took 20 an event it would be different. Not my idea of exciting.
And I too am shocked they took a little girl. Just doesn't seem very Elite. But money talks!
That little kid stomped a mud hole in everybody at the American Semi's last year, far more "Elite" than some... |
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| WrapSnap - 2015-10-22 1:23 PM
SassyPirate - 2015-10-22 2:17 PM
I actually think these are going to be boring to watch! But that is just me!!Same 10 people every rodeo? It isn't that exciting. Maybe if they took 20 an event it would be different. Not my idea of exciting.
And I too am shocked they took a little girl. Just doesn't seem very Elite. But money talks!
That little kid stomped a mud hole in everybody at the American Semi's last year, far more "Elite" than some...
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Location: The edge of no where | SassyPirate - 2015-10-22 2:17 PM I actually think these are going to be boring to watch! But that is just me!!Same 10 people every rodeo? It isn't that exciting. Maybe if they took 20 an event it would be different. Not my idea of exciting. And I too am shocked they took a little girl. Just doesn't seem very Elite. But money talks!
Good grief people - have you thought about this from the marketing angle? She will bring a TON of fans to the table. It's a genius move to include her. The whole point of ERA is to try to make rodeo more mainstream and appeal to a wider range of people. She's got a pretty incredible story from the American last year (the kid is flat out TOUGH!). I've watched her work her butt off riding a variety of horses.
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| MS2011 - 2015-10-22 1:39 PM
SassyPirate - 2015-10-22 2:17 PM I actually think these are going to be boring to watch! But that is just me!!Same 10 people every rodeo? It isn't that exciting. Maybe if they took 20 an event it would be different. Not my idea of exciting. And I too am shocked they took a little girl. Just doesn't seem very Elite. But money talks!
Good grief people - have you thought about this from the marketing angle? She will bring a TON of fans to the table. It's a genius move to include her. The whole point of ERA is to try to make rodeo more mainstream and appeal to a wider range of people. She's got a pretty incredible story from the American last year (the kid is flat out TOUGH!). I've watched her work her butt off riding a variety of horses.
Not sure why I am being attacked when 20 other people have the same opinion I have.
You have yours and we have ours. Its pretty simple. I guess we will all see how it plays out and if they can do what the PBR did. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | MS2011 - 2015-10-22 2:39 PM SassyPirate - 2015-10-22 2:17 PM I actually think these are going to be boring to watch! But that is just me!!Same 10 people every rodeo? It isn't that exciting. Maybe if they took 20 an event it would be different. Not my idea of exciting. And I too am shocked they took a little girl. Just doesn't seem very Elite. But money talks! Good grief people - have you thought about this from the marketing angle? She will bring a TON of fans to the table. It's a genius move to include her. The whole point of ERA is to try to make rodeo more mainstream and appeal to a wider range of people. She's got a pretty incredible story from the American last year (the kid is flat out TOUGH!). I've watched her work her butt off riding a variety of horses.
Then the NFR should put a fan favorite into 15th spot...LOL |
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Location: The edge of no where | SassyPirate - 2015-10-22 2:42 PM MS2011 - 2015-10-22 1:39 PM SassyPirate - 2015-10-22 2:17 PM I actually think these are going to be boring to watch! But that is just me!!Same 10 people every rodeo? It isn't that exciting. Maybe if they took 20 an event it would be different. Not my idea of exciting. And I too am shocked they took a little girl. Just doesn't seem very Elite. But money talks! Good grief people - have you thought about this from the marketing angle? She will bring a TON of fans to the table. It's a genius move to include her. The whole point of ERA is to try to make rodeo more mainstream and appeal to a wider range of people. She's got a pretty incredible story from the American last year (the kid is flat out TOUGH!). I've watched her work her butt off riding a variety of horses. Not sure why I am being attacked when 20 other people have the same opinion I have. You have yours and we have ours. Its pretty simple. I guess we will all see how it plays out and if they can do what the PBR did.
They're attempting to build something new and it makes me sad to see people that I know love rodeo ripping it apart when it doesn't even affect them. There is NO way to come up with a start list that everyone will agree on....but you've got to start somewhere.
At least these guys are doing something to try to improve rodeo instead of sitting on the fence whining. I will always respect the doers. How many posts have there been on this board griping about the PRCA & WPRA? There's also been griping about the American qualifier system and how it's run. At least it's a start. It will have growing pains....just like everything else.
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SassyPirate - 2015-10-22 2:42 PM MS2011 - 2015-10-22 1:39 PM SassyPirate - 2015-10-22 2:17 PM I actually think these are going to be boring to watch! But that is just me!!Same 10 people every rodeo? It isn't that exciting. Maybe if they took 20 an event it would be different. Not my idea of exciting. And I too am shocked they took a little girl. Just doesn't seem very Elite. But money talks! Good grief people - have you thought about this from the marketing angle? She will bring a TON of fans to the table. It's a genius move to include her. The whole point of ERA is to try to make rodeo more mainstream and appeal to a wider range of people. She's got a pretty incredible story from the American last year (the kid is flat out TOUGH!). I've watched her work her butt off riding a variety of horses. Not sure why I am being attacked when 20 other people have the same opinion I have. You have yours and we have ours. Its pretty simple. I guess we will all see how it plays out and if they can do what the PBR did.
They're attempting to build something new and it makes me sad to see people that I know love rodeo ripping it apart when it doesn't even affect them. There is NO way to come up with a start list that everyone will agree on....but you've got to start somewhere.
At least these guys are doing something to try to improve rodeo instead of sitting on the fence whining. I will always respect the doers. How many posts have there been on this board griping about the PRCA & WPRA? There's also been griping about the American qualifier system and how it's run. At least it's a start. It will have growing pains....just like everything else.
I completely agree with you! I am totally not ripping down the ERA what so ever. I, as many other, am simply surprised who got chosen.
But if they had to pay a % to become a shareholder then I understand!
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | MS2011 - 2015-10-22 2:48 PM SassyPirate - 2015-10-22 2:42 PM MS2011 - 2015-10-22 1:39 PM SassyPirate - 2015-10-22 2:17 PM I actually think these are going to be boring to watch! But that is just me!!Same 10 people every rodeo? It isn't that exciting. Maybe if they took 20 an event it would be different. Not my idea of exciting. And I too am shocked they took a little girl. Just doesn't seem very Elite. But money talks! Good grief people - have you thought about this from the marketing angle? She will bring a TON of fans to the table. It's a genius move to include her. The whole point of ERA is to try to make rodeo more mainstream and appeal to a wider range of people. She's got a pretty incredible story from the American last year (the kid is flat out TOUGH!). I've watched her work her butt off riding a variety of horses.
Not sure why I am being attacked when 20 other people have the same opinion I have. You have yours and we have ours. Its pretty simple. I guess we will all see how it plays out and if they can do what the PBR did.
They're attempting to build something new and it makes me sad to see people that I know love rodeo ripping it apart when it doesn't even affect them. There is NO way to come up with a start list that everyone will agree on....but you've got to start somewhere.
At least these guys are doing something to try to improve rodeo instead of sitting on the fence whining. I will always respect the doers. How many posts have there been on this board griping about the PRCA & WPRA? There's also been griping about the American qualifier system and how it's run. At least it's a start. It will have growing pains....just like everything else.
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| I think is awesome that they took a kid for the roster! It may open the door for other kids in the future? Now every kid that thinks they are good has a chance to go qualify! Most people don't want kids involved now , even though some of the biggest icons of barrel racing made a name for themselves as kids!! I will put my own daughters resume against any youth rider and picking Chayni was a smart choice- she has already had great media coverage and she won an event (American semifinals) that no other kid has won! There are a ton of good kids with good resumes , but they all run in different associations or events so it would have been a major blowup to pick a different kid other than Chayni! The roster is only for 1 year and if you don't like it load up your horse and go to the qualifiers in 2016 to get on the tour for 2017! If the ERA succeeds we will load up and try to qualify! Look at it as an opportunity!
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Location: The edge of no where | Kylarbarrel - 2015-10-22 4:03 PM I think is awesome that they took a kid for the roster! It may open the door for other kids in the future? Now every kid that thinks they are good has a chance to go qualify! Most people don't want kids involved now , even though some of the biggest icons of barrel racing made a name for themselves as kids!! I will put my own daughters resume against any youth rider and picking Chayni was a smart choice- she has already had great media coverage and she won an event (American semifinals) that no other kid has won! There are a ton of good kids with good resumes , but they all run in different associations or events so it would have been a major blowup to pick a different kid other than Chayni! The roster is only for 1 year and if you don't like it load up your horse and go to the qualifiers in 2016 to get on the tour for 2017! If the ERA succeeds we will load up and try to qualify! Look at it as an opportunity! Kaleb Terlip
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Location: PNW | casualdust07 - 2015-10-22 11:36 AM
must be nice to run against 10 people all year long
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So.. is that the entire roster? Like, are those the only ones we will see at ERA events? Or is that just their top whoever? I am confused..
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | As an outsider looking in without a dog in this fight, I applaud the willingness of these people to try something different and think outside the box, and I appreciate their willingness to take the risks to get this off the ground. This could end up being a huge step in the right direction for professional rodeo.
It's easy to be critical of this new organization in a number of ways. In some cases, it's simply a matter of envy and jealousy, and in other cases it's people's disapproval or questioning of the "selection" of members.
In 1960 a similar venture was undertaken, and it was called the American Football League. Obviously it was on a much larger scale, but the basic concept was in some ways similar. The NFL and many of the fans mocked and criticized the effort. By the end of the decade, the ragtag AFL had demonstrated parity. Now we have the biggest sporting event on earth, called the "Super Bowl" which was a direct result of that effort and willingness to invest and take risks.
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | RunninOnARooster - 2015-10-22 4:15 PM So does this mean the ladies on this list won't be running for the NFR next year? Not sure if there has been any updates as far as the WPRA is concerned with its "conflicting associations"
I am not sure how it will work for the WPRA. As far the the PRCA, if anyone is a shareholder they cannot ride at a PRCA event for a certain amount of time after they had competed at an ERA event. Therefore I would think every roughstock rider and mens timed event will not be making a run for the NFR>. |
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Location: somewhere in the south | How could Mary Walker not have been in the "pick"??? She is a top "Elite" athlete and much more qualified than Chayni. I like Chayni but let's put the real out there and say what we all know.............the horse is automatic and yes, she's riding but the horse is the talent there! I'd much rather see Mary Walker. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | turn3nhome - 2015-10-23 9:05 AM
How could Mary Walker not have been in the "pick"??? She is a top "Elite" athlete and much more qualified than Chayni. I like Chayni but let's put the real out there and say what we all know.............the horse is automatic and yes, she's riding but the horse is the talent there! I'd much rather see Mary Walker.
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Location: somewhere in the south | Now that someone has said that riders have to choose between the WPRA and the ERA I guess I wouldn't want to be restricted either. So maybe that's why several of the big riders and other contestants aren't in the ERA....................
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2015-10-23 9:06 AM turn3nhome - 2015-10-23 9:05 AM How could Mary Walker not have been in the "pick"??? She is a top "Elite" athlete and much more qualified than Chayni. I like Chayni but let's put the real out there and say what we all know.............the horse is automatic and yes, she's riding but the horse is the talent there! I'd much rather see Mary Walker. Because of Bubba.
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| turn3nhome - 2015-10-23 8:12 AM
Now that someone has said that riders have to choose between the WPRA and the ERA I guess I wouldn't want to be restricted either. So maybe that's why several of the big riders and other contestants aren't in the ERA....................
The WPRA has yet to take a stand on ERA. It's the PRCA that added new by laws stating that you couldn't be an officer, board member or have a financial interest in a competing association if you wanted a PRCA membership. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2015-10-23 9:17 AM
Bear - 2015-10-23 9:06 AM turn3nhome - 2015-10-23 9:05 AM How could Mary Walker not have been in the "pick"??? She is a top "Elite" athlete and much more qualified than Chayni. I like Chayni but let's put the real out there and say what we all know.............the horse is automatic and yes, she's riding but the horse is the talent there! I'd much rather see Mary Walker. Because of Bubba.
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Location: The edge of no where | SKM - 2015-10-23 9:14 AM All of the girls on that list have a huge fan base and don't have the up front drama that other top girls do. While one could argue Fallon because of previous business ethics, she has made herself EXTREMELY accessible to the general public and the young fans LOVE her. She is always smiling, signing autographs and taking pictures. She is by far the most approachable World Champion of all times, and that includes all the other events. I am not a Fallon fan. But she really has been a positive spokesperson for the sport.
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Location: The edge of no where | Bear - 2015-10-23 10:08 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-10-23 9:17 AM Bear - 2015-10-23 9:06 AM turn3nhome - 2015-10-23 9:05 AM How could Mary Walker not have been in the "pick"??? She is a top "Elite" athlete and much more qualified than Chayni. I like Chayni but let's put the real out there and say what we all know.............the horse is automatic and yes, she's riding but the horse is the talent there! I'd much rather see Mary Walker. Because of Bubba. Everyone knows who Bubba is.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2015-10-23 10:08 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-10-23 9:17 AM Bear - 2015-10-23 9:06 AM turn3nhome - 2015-10-23 9:05 AM How could Mary Walker not have been in the "pick"??? She is a top "Elite" athlete and much more qualified than Chayni. I like Chayni but let's put the real out there and say what we all know.............the horse is automatic and yes, she's riding but the horse is the talent there! I'd much rather see Mary Walker. Because of Bubba. Everyone knows who Bubba is.
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Location: California | sodapop - 2015-10-21 7:24 PM
grinandbareit - 2015-10-21 9:10 PM Well... that did it for me. I'm happy for Chayni, but that just took it out of "professional" for me. I don't think that kids should be allowed in... not that my opinion matters two doodles! LOL Charmayne won I think 5 of her World Championships between the ages of 14-18 back when there was no age limit. If there had been an age limit, she would not likely be an 11 time world champion just based on the age Scamper came into her life. So of course, she is going to be open to all ages being allowed to compete. Fallon Taylor qualified for the NFR under the age of 18 before the age limit rule. I do think Angie Meadors had a qualification or even 2 under the age of 18 before the age limit change. Could be wrong about Angie, but for some reason I feel like she had at least one qualification under 18.
But I also saw Charmayne on her personal FB tearing apart PRCA/WPRA and their "top professional" athletes, that they were in fact not elite enough. . . So to build a new organization while calling out the one that made you famous, and then listing your accomplishments from the organization she doesn't deem "elite enough" well then maybe she needs more futurity, derby, etc accomplishments before her input is allowed.
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Location: Midwest | *almost there* - 2015-10-23 2:26 PM sodapop - 2015-10-21 7:24 PM grinandbareit - 2015-10-21 9:10 PM Well... that did it for me. I'm happy for Chayni, but that just took it out of "professional" for me. I don't think that kids should be allowed in... not that my opinion matters two doodles! LOL Charmayne won I think 5 of her World Championships between the ages of 14-18 back when there was no age limit. If there had been an age limit, she would not likely be an 11 time world champion just based on the age Scamper came into her life. So of course, she is going to be open to all ages being allowed to compete. Fallon Taylor qualified for the NFR under the age of 18 before the age limit rule. I do think Angie Meadors had a qualification or even 2 under the age of 18 before the age limit change. Could be wrong about Angie, but for some reason I feel like she had at least one qualification under 18. But I also saw Charmayne on her personal FB tearing apart PRCA/WPRA and their "top professional" athletes, that they were in fact not elite enough. . . So to build a new organization while calling out the one that made you famous, and then listing your accomplishments from the organization she doesn't deem "elite enough" well then maybe she needs more futurity, derby, etc accomplishments before her input is allowed. Sorry but watching her tear is apart wpra/prca apart ruined my support for her.
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| ozcancrasher13 - 2015-10-23 2:19 PM Anyone remember the Team Rodeos? Do you mean like the Tulsa Twisters? Contestants competed side by side in timed events. There were 5 barrels in the arena........ 3 barrels (1 left side of arena, 1 middle of the arena, 1 right side of the arena..... then 2 barrels on down) The middle barrel was turned by both contestants. For one it was her first barrel and for the other it was the second barrel. If this is the team rodeos you mean, then yes I remember. They were fun to watch. It was called Major League Rodeo.
Here are a few articles about it or some of the contestants at the time.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=886&dat=19780627&id=LMNSAAAAIBAJ&sjid=FIEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2894,3144646&hl=en
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1917&dat=19780401&id=DO4wAAAAIBAJ&sjid=2eAFAAAAIBAJ&pg=988,698044&hl=en
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1978/07/08/major-league-rodeo-is-trying-to-make-a-point/e5d7956c-95dd-44f2-a5ae-37d391855b71/
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20071858,00.html
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=336&dat=19780620&id=_xxVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=YIADAAAAIBAJ&pg=6927,5380655&hl=en
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| DunIt - 2015-10-23 8:16 AM and they had to pay $50k
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| I wasn't going to join this discussion because I know there are a few people that are just waiting for me to add my two cents so they can attack like a pack of hyena's. Oh well. My understanding is all the funding for this is coming from a tax slush fund. The legislators were told that the ERA expects X amount to be brought in as revenue if TX funds them. I wonder what happens if the finals have a crowd like they had in Kissimee for Circuit Finals? The NCHA Finals were funded through this same slush fund and they didn't generate near the numbers that they predicted. So I wonder how much time these legislator's give a group like the NCHA and ERA to generate the revenue they forecast before they cut off funding? Also, if all the funding is coming from TX, does that mean the 10 rodeos will all be in TX? Or will a state such as MT get one even though they aren't contributing to the funding? |
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| SKM - 2015-10-24 8:24 AMI wasn't going to join this discussion because I know there are a few people that are just waiting for me to add my two cents so they can attack like a pack of hyena's. Oh well. My understanding is all the funding for this is coming from a tax slush fund. The legislators were told that the ERA expects X amount to be brought in as revenue if TX funds them. I wonder what happens if the finals have a crowd like they had in Kissimee for Circuit Finals? The NCHA Finals were funded through this same slush fund and they didn't generate near the numbers that they predicted. So I wonder how much time these legislator's give a group like the NCHA and ERA to generate the revenue they forecast before they cut off funding? Also, if all the funding is coming from TX, does that mean the 10 rodeos will all be in TX? Or will a state such as MT get one even though they aren't contributing to the funding? That will be interesting to see where these rodeos are held. I was wondering myself. Who knows maybe just their big finals will be the only one in Texas. I hope this thing works. I think it would have been better if all rules, regulations, contestants, qualifications, rodeo locations and dates, etc would have been announced at once. That way they don't look so fly by the seat of your pants and make it up or change it as we go. I know they are treading in new territory so it can be a bit tricky. I just like all my ducks in a row with all the what ifs addressed ahead of time before taking a big jump. Great risk takers aren't like me and usually it all works out either way. It's just my personal preference.
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| oranges - 2015-10-24 9:28 AM
How do new people get on the roster? Is it closed to up and coming barrel racers? What if one of their horses get hurt? I realize the 10 can ride well, but alot of their success comes from their horse too so I think it's hard to pick the elite in the barrel industry because of how much your horse is a part of your success.
I am pretty sure all of the ladies on the roster have more than 1 tough horse in the trailer if their main mount gets injured. If not, they will jump on someone else's through a lease, borrow, or promote plan. If it is like the PBR, they have to stay competitive in order to remain on the tour or they are replaced by a challenger level contestant who is next in line......like being pulled from a minor league to the major league in baseball. I don't know how it will work. This is just my guess. |
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| SKM - 2015-10-24 8:24 AM I wasn't going to join this discussion because I know there are a few people that are just waiting for me to add my two cents so they can attack like a pack of hyena's. Oh well. My understanding is all the funding for this is coming from a tax slush fund. The legislators were told that the ERA expects X amount to be brought in as revenue if TX funds them. I wonder what happens if the finals have a crowd like they had in Kissimee for Circuit Finals? The NCHA Finals were funded through this same slush fund and they didn't generate near the numbers that they predicted. So I wonder how much time these legislator's give a group like the NCHA and ERA to generate the revenue they forecast before they cut off funding? Also, if all the funding is coming from TX, does that mean the 10 rodeos will all be in TX? Or will a state such as MT get one even though they aren't contributing to the funding?
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SKM - 2015-10-24 8:24 AM I wasn't going to join this discussion because I know there are a few people that are just waiting for me to add my two cents so they can attack like a pack of hyena's. Oh well. My understanding is all the funding for this is coming from a tax slush fund. The legislators were told that the ERA expects X amount to be brought in as revenue if TX funds them. I wonder what happens if the finals have a crowd like they had in Kissimee for Circuit Finals? The NCHA Finals were funded through this same slush fund and they didn't generate near the numbers that they predicted. So I wonder how much time these legislator's give a group like the NCHA and ERA to generate the revenue they forecast before they cut off funding? Also, if all the funding is coming from TX, does that mean the 10 rodeos will all be in TX? Or will a state such as MT get one even though they aren't contributing to the funding?
Here is what the METF does in Texas. They have nothing to do with sending funds to any assocaition per say. They help fund events for different events which the ERA is trying to get funding for their finals.
The Major Events Trust Fund applies local and state gains from sales and use, auto rental, hotel and alcoholic beverage taxes generated over a 12-month period from certain major sporting championships or events to pay costs incurred from hosting the event.
Large and well-attended events have previously been funded, including the 2004 Super Bowl and the NCAA’s 2004 and 2008 Men’s Final Four basketball championships.
The trust fund can be used to pay costs related to preparing for or conducting the event, including equipment, or to pay principal and interest on notes used to build or improve facilities. One hundred percent of allowable expenses can be funded provided sufficient tax receipts are deposited in the trust fund.
StatuteVernon’s Texas Civil Statutes, Article 5190.14 Sec 5A
Eligible Events - Academy of Country Music Awards
- National Cutting Horse Association Triple Crown
- Super Bowl
- NCAA Final Four tournament game
- National Basketball Association All Star Game
- National Hockey League All Star Game
- Major League Baseball All Star Game
- NCAA Bowl Championship Series or its successor
- World Cup Soccer Game
- World Games
- A national political convention of the Republican National Committee or the Democratic National Committee
- A national collegiate championship of an amateur sport sanctioned by a national governing body recognized by the U.S. Olympic Committee
- An Olympic activity, including a Junior or Senior activity, training program or feeder program sanctioned by the U.S. Olympic Committee’s Community Olympic Development Program
- Breeders’ Cup World Championships
- Formula One automobile races
- Mixed Martial Arts
- X-Games
- Largest event at a venue with over 125,000 permanent seats
Population RequirementsNo City or County size limitations
Taxes Eligible - General Sales and Use (Tax Code, Ch.151)
- Motor Vehicle Rental (Tax Code, Ch.152)
- Hotel Tax (Tax Code, Ch.156)
- Mixed Beverage (Tax Code, Ch.183)
- Title 5 Alcoholic Bev. Code
State Review/ApprovalComptroller works with the applicant (city or county) to establish the amount of incremental tax gains resulting from the event – which is the basis of expense payment. The Comptroller will review the actual number of attendees to confirm the value to the state.
Economic Impact “Window”One Year
Application DeadlineNot earlier than one year and not later than 45 days before the event View the Request worksheet (PDF)
Obligations Allowed - 100% of allowable expenses
- Limited by fund deposits
Allowable Expenses - Principal and interest on notes issued by an endorsing municipality or county that are used to improve, construct, renovate, or acquire facilities or to acquire equipment for the event.
- Payment of costs relating to the preparations necessary or desirable for the conduct of the event and the payment of costs of conducting the event, including improvements or renovations to facilities.
Specific Use LimitationsCannot be used to solicit relocation of a professional sports franchise already located in Texas.
The Comptroller is required under Section 5A(w) of Article 5190.14 (Vernon's Civil Statutes) to complete and post an economic impact study following the completion of an event eligible for disbursements from the Major Events trust fund. Below are studies of the measurable economic impact attributable to METF events: - 2011 Super Bowl XLV (February 2011) (PDF, 287KB)
- 2011 Summer National Senior Games (June 2011) (PDF, 532KB)
- 2012 Olympic Trials Marathon (January 2012) (PDF, 456KB)
- 2012 AAU Junior Olympic Games (August 2012) (PDF, 367KB)
- 2011 - 2012 NCHA Triple Crown of Cutting (Futurity, Super Stakes, Summer Spectacular) (PDF, 1.1MB)
- 2012 Formula One Grand Prix (November 2012) (PDF, 499KB)
- 2013 Formula One Grand Prix (November 2013)
- 2014 NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Final Four (April 2014)
- 2013 Houston NBA All-Star Game (February 2013)
- 2012 - 2013 NCHA Triple Crown of Cutting (Futurity, Super Stakes, Summer Spectacular)
In accordance with 2013’s S.B. 1678, the Comptroller’s office completed a post-event study and compiled appropriate documents for two METF events, the 2014-15 Triple Crown of Cutting and 2014 Formula 1 event.
Legislation approved in 2015 calls for the METF program to be moved to the Office of the Governor, and this transition is under way. If you wish to see a copy of either report prior to September 10, 2015, when the transition should be complete, contact eventtrustfunds@cpa.texas.gov.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | There was a go ahead to get funding but it can't be official more then a year before the event and not less then 45 days before.
Here is info from Sept. 30, 2015.
POSSIBLE METF MONEY
In fact, in February 2015 when the ERA surfaced, Texas state legislators were considering it to be added to a list of other events eligible to receive tax incentives to come to Texas through the Major Events Trust Fund (METF). During a Texas State Legislative session meeting held Monday, Feb. 18, Trevor Brazile, Jade Corkill, Patrick Smith, Charmayne James, Tuf Cooper, Fred Whitfield and Bobby Mote showed up in support of the Elite Rodeo Association being included in the METF, a lucrative fund funded by Texas taxpayers. Rep. Cecil Bell, Jr., R-Magnolia, Texas filed HB1440, one of the proposals that included an Elite Rodeo Association World Championship be added to the (METF).
However, the METF shifted oversight on Aug. 31, 2015, during the 84th Texas Legislative Regular Session, when the administration of the METF program was transferred from the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts to the Office of the Governor’s economic development and tourism division to address lingering worries and eliminating Texas taxpayers funding it, effective Sept. 1, 2015. The latest posted recipients by the state of Texas do not currently include the ERA’s Dallas event; however, that list was posted prior to Sept. 1.
Here is the link for people that are interesting in reading more about the above and the ERA.
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| Nevertooold - 2015-10-24 11:11 AM
There was a go ahead to get funding but it can't be official more then a year before the event and not less then 45 days before.
Here is info from Sept. 30, 2015.POSSIBLE METF MONEYIn fact, in February 2015 when the ERA surfaced, Texas state legislators were considering it to be added to a list of other events eligible to receive tax incentives to come to Texas through the Major Events Trust Fund (METF ). During a Texas State Legislative session meeting held Monday, Feb. 18, Trevor Brazile, Jade Corkill, Patrick Smith, Charmayne James, Tuf Cooper, Fred Whitfield and Bobby Mote showed up in support of the Elite Rodeo Association being included in the METF, a lucrative fund funded by Texas taxpayers. Rep. Cecil Bell, Jr., R-Magnolia, Texas filed HB1440, one of the proposals that included an Elite Rodeo Association World Championship be added to the (METF ). However, the METF shifted oversight on Aug. 31, 2015, during the 84th Texas Legislative Regular Session, when the administration of the METF program was transferred from the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts to the Office of the Governor’s economic development and tourism division to address lingering worries and eliminating Texas taxpayers funding it, effective Sept. 1, 2015. The latest posted recipients by the state of Texas do not currently include the ERA’s Dallas event; however, that list was posted prior to Sept. 1. Here is the link for people that are interesting in reading more about the above and the ERA.http://allaboutcutting.net/?p=7621
That was an interesting read. Makes you wonder where these big bucks they are going to be competing for are coming from. And how the one event part of the PRCA bylaw will come into play. It's like watching a chess game between the ERA and the PRCA and the contestants are the pawns. The thing about chess though...the pawns are always the first to get knocked off. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SKM - 2015-10-24 12:35 PM Nevertooold - 2015-10-24 11:11 AM There was a go ahead to get funding but it can't be official more then a year before the event and not less then 45 days before.
Here is info from Sept. 30, 2015.
POSSIBLE METF MONEY
In fact, in February 2015 when the ERA surfaced, Texas state legislators were considering it to be added to a list of other events eligible to receive tax incentives to come to Texas through the Major Events Trust Fund (METF ). During a Texas State Legislative session meeting held Monday, Feb. 18, Trevor Brazile, Jade Corkill, Patrick Smith, Charmayne James, Tuf Cooper, Fred Whitfield and Bobby Mote showed up in support of the Elite Rodeo Association being included in the METF, a lucrative fund funded by Texas taxpayers. Rep. Cecil Bell, Jr., R-Magnolia, Texas filed HB1440, one of the proposals that included an Elite Rodeo Association World Championship be added to the (METF ).
However, the METF shifted oversight on Aug. 31, 2015, during the 84th Texas Legislative Regular Session, when the administration of the METF program was transferred from the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts to the Office of the Governor’s economic development and tourism division to address lingering worries and eliminating Texas taxpayers funding it, effective Sept. 1, 2015. The latest posted recipients by the state of Texas do not currently include the ERA’s Dallas event; however, that list was posted prior to Sept. 1.
Here is the link for people that are interesting in reading more about the above and the ERA.
http://allaboutcutting.net/?p=7621
That was an interesting read. Makes you wonder where these big bucks they are going to be competing for are coming from. And how the one event part of the PRCA bylaw will come into play. It's like watching a chess game between the ERA and the PRCA and the contestants are the pawns. The thing about chess though...the pawns are always the first to get knocked off.
The one event deal sure doesn't affect very many except for people like Trevor that go for the all around. How they could be so specific to target contestants that enter more then one event was a real eye opener and pretty much tells who the PRCA is targeting. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Nevertooold - 2015-10-24 1:19 PM SKM - 2015-10-24 12:35 PM Nevertooold - 2015-10-24 11:11 AM There was a go ahead to get funding but it can't be official more then a year before the event and not less then 45 days before.
Here is info from Sept. 30, 2015.
POSSIBLE METF MONEY
In fact, in February 2015 when the ERA surfaced, Texas state legislators were considering it to be added to a list of other events eligible to receive tax incentives to come to Texas through the Major Events Trust Fund (METF ). During a Texas State Legislative session meeting held Monday, Feb. 18, Trevor Brazile, Jade Corkill, Patrick Smith, Charmayne James, Tuf Cooper, Fred Whitfield and Bobby Mote showed up in support of the Elite Rodeo Association being included in the METF, a lucrative fund funded by Texas taxpayers. Rep. Cecil Bell, Jr., R-Magnolia, Texas filed HB1440, one of the proposals that included an Elite Rodeo Association World Championship be added to the (METF ).
However, the METF shifted oversight on Aug. 31, 2015, during the 84th Texas Legislative Regular Session, when the administration of the METF program was transferred from the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts to the Office of the Governor’s economic development and tourism division to address lingering worries and eliminating Texas taxpayers funding it, effective Sept. 1, 2015. The latest posted recipients by the state of Texas do not currently include the ERA’s Dallas event; however, that list was posted prior to Sept. 1.
Here is the link for people that are interesting in reading more about the above and the ERA.
http://allaboutcutting.net/?p=7621
That was an interesting read. Makes you wonder where these big bucks they are going to be competing for are coming from. And how the one event part of the PRCA bylaw will come into play. It's like watching a chess game between the ERA and the PRCA and the contestants are the pawns. The thing about chess though...the pawns are always the first to get knocked off.
Conflicting rodeo associations were defined as companies, partnerships or associations or other entities whose direct or indirect purpose is to produce, promote and/or sanction professional rodeo contests in which contestants compete in two or more of the following events: bareback riding, saddle bronc riding, bull riding, tie-down roping, steer wrestling and team roping.
The way I read it is that they are NOT targeting the contestant who competes in more than one event but any "association" whose production includes more than one event....hence any single event production (team roping, barrel racing, bronc riding, bull riding productions) would NOT be "conflicting" associations....... |
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| It will be interesting to see how those ERA athletes who are NFR qualifiers this year handle the NFR interviews, daily requirements from the PRCA/WPRA during the NFR, and just general NFR PR. On the flip side, it will also be interesting to find out how the PRCA/WPRA treat them during the NFR. Hopefully it is a positive experience for all on both sides. |
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Conflicting rodeo associations were defined as companies, partnerships or associations or other entities whose direct or indirect purpose is to produce, promote and/or sanction professional rodeo contests in which contestants compete in two or more of the following events: bareback riding, saddle bronc riding, bull riding, tie-down roping, steer wrestling and team roping.
The way I read it is that they are NOT targeting the contestant who competes in more than one event but any "association" whose production includes more than one event....hence any single event production (team roping, barrel racing, bronc riding, bull riding productions) would NOT be "conflicting" associations.......
I did read it wrong. I shouldn't multi-task...my brain is too old..LOL
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| Nevertooold - 2015-10-24 3:21 PM
Conflicting rodeo associations were defined as companies, partnerships or associations or other entities whose direct or indirect purpose is to produce, promote and/or sanction professional rodeo contests in which contestants compete in two or more of the following events: bareback riding, saddle bronc riding, bull riding, tie-down roping, steer wrestling and team roping.
The way I read it is that they are NOT targeting the contestant who competes in more than one event but any "association" whose production includes more than one event....hence any single event production (team roping, barrel racing, bronc riding, bull riding productions) would NOT be "conflicting" associations.......
I did read it wrong. I shouldn't multi-task...my brain is too old..LOL
That makes two of us NTO. I blame age and working by rear end off at my job. The long days are starting to catch up with me. |
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Location: North of the 49th Parallel | I heard rumors of rumors that WPRA was going to follow the same stance that the PRCA had on members jumping ship? Anyone know that for sure? |
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| PRCA/WPRA has a team rodeo concept innplace right now. It is much different than Major League Rodeo from back in the late 70's.
Edited by sodapop 2015-10-25 6:16 PM
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Location: 'Hawk Country | sodapop - 2015-10-24 9:02 PM PRCA/WPRA has a team rodeo concept innplace right now. It is much different than Major League Rodeo from back in the late 70's. They just had their finale recently in Waco, Tx.
Edited by ozcancrasher13 2015-10-24 9:52 PM
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| ozcancrasher13 - 2015-10-24 9:51 PM
sodapop - 2015-10-24 9:02 PM PRCA/WPRA has a team rodeo concept innplace right now. It is much different than Major League Rodeo from back in the late 70's. They just had their finale recently in Waco, Tx.
My mistake Waco was not the team finale. |
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| Nevertooold - 2015-10-22 1:54 PM
Beginning this week, the ERA will release its 2016 tour roster by event throughout the month of October. The 2016 ERA Tour Roster was filled by peer draft, which was made up of founding ERA members who are considered to be the best athletes in the world. They based their decision on a variety of criteria, some of which included: history in the sport, world championship appearances, fan appeal, ability, and they even identified talented up and comers who will be the sports future stars. In the end they selected based on talent, and whom they thought could compete at a very high level.
The 2016 ERA roster is the most decorated group of professional rodeo contestants and has more world champions among them than any other rodeo organization in the world, making each event a must watch for rodeo fans.
There were 10 spots to fill per event for the 2016 tour. Athletes desiring to make the ERA Tour will have the opportunity to earn their way onto the 2017 tour through the qualification system.
More information about the 2017 ERA Qualifying System will be released soon.
Thanks for the explanation. |
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Location: Driving, Grooming, or Saddling for a Kid! | sodapop - 2015-10-23 9:05 PM DunIt - 2015-10-23 8:16 AM and they had to pay $50k Who had to pay $50K?
A friend and I was told by a steer wrestler that is on the roster that they had to pay $50k to be on the roster. |
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Location: Louisiana | DunIt - 2015-10-26 8:56 AM sodapop - 2015-10-23 9:05 PM DunIt - 2015-10-23 8:16 AM and they had to pay $50k Who had to pay $50K?
I know a few guys on the roster... And unless they have some kind of amazing sponsors, I highly doubt they had $50k laying around. They all struggle all year just to haul and have families to support. I know that is a reason one of them chose to do the ERA, so he could be home more often with his babies. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | DunIt - 2015-10-26 8:56 AM sodapop - 2015-10-23 9:05 PM DunIt - 2015-10-23 8:16 AM and they had to pay $50k Who had to pay $50K?
Edited by NJJ 2015-10-26 9:57 AM
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | barrelracr131 - 2015-10-23 3:04 PM *almost there* - 2015-10-23 2:26 PM sodapop - 2015-10-21 7:24 PM grinandbareit - 2015-10-21 9:10 PM Well... that did it for me. I'm happy for Chayni, but that just took it out of "professional" for me. I don't think that kids should be allowed in... not that my opinion matters two doodles! LOL Charmayne won I think 5 of her World Championships between the ages of 14-18 back when there was no age limit. If there had been an age limit, she would not likely be an 11 time world champion just based on the age Scamper came into her life. So of course, she is going to be open to all ages being allowed to compete. Fallon Taylor qualified for the NFR under the age of 18 before the age limit rule. I do think Angie Meadors had a qualification or even 2 under the age of 18 before the age limit change. Could be wrong about Angie, but for some reason I feel like she had at least one qualification under 18. But I also saw Charmayne on her personal FB tearing apart PRCA/WPRA and their "top professional" athletes, that they were in fact not elite enough. . . So to build a new organization while calling out the one that made you famous, and then listing your accomplishments from the organization she doesn't deem "elite enough" well then maybe she needs more futurity, derby, etc accomplishments before her input is allowed. Sorry but watching her tear is apart wpra/prca apart ruined my support for her.
I'd like to see this link as well. |
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