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DOC O LENA/PLAYGUN bloodlines thoughts
teamthompson
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hello everyone,

so I just acquired my first "cow" bred filly, she is 4yo and is broke decent, I am wanting to start her on the patterns, etc...

I don't have much back story on this girl, just know she was broke last summer, and was ridden here n there, nothing consistent....

She is the product of the OSU breeding program and I have been unsuccessful locating information on her dam and sire...

I will try and post pictures.... Thanks everyone

2nd picture is when I got her 9-1-15 and now




I have a few questions.....

1. do these bloodlines yield late bloomers or are they sane right from the get go and can handle pressure?

2. are they too smart for their own good, like getting into trouble or getting bored easily?

3. body frame and confirmation do they hold up well?



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hoofs_in_motion
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She has really nice bone on her. I really like playgun bred horses, most I've come across were smart, and quick. There is an own son of playgun running barrels around here, he's 1D effortlessly and a solid roping horse. 
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IME - Doc O Lena's are fantastic horses. I have 2 and love them. One is 14 and the other is 9. They both have held up extremely well. They are both incredibly smart. Show them one time, and they've got it, it seems. You can't pick on them either. Very much the "they know their job, let them do it" types. Mine were not late bloomers. Very mature, sane minded from the time I got on them as 2.5 year olds.

My 9 yr old is a nosy nellie. She gets into everything and wants to follow me around the pasture when we are working on fence. She has a jolly ball and hanging ball in her stall.
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Posted 2015-10-22 9:34 AM
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Great looking horse! Yes, my Playgun was a VERY late bloomer. He was very immature and did not catch on to things too quick. I think your Mr Sun Olena/Doc Olena on the bottom side will balance that out, those horses are really nice and athletic.
We had a playgun gelding and I finally had to sell him because he was lazy and did not fit with our program. Our Mr Sun olena daughter was phenomenal though, a very sweet kind horse. Only thing I could fault her on is that she was a very hard keeper and hard to keep weight on.
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Posted 2015-10-22 9:39 AM
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We have a colt with the Doc O Lena Blood lines and Swindler/Jet Smooth/Top Deck on top. He's only 2 so we haven't done much with him but he's built and looks just like you mare so I will take her if you don't like her!
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teamthompson
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Posted 2015-10-22 10:32 AM
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wowzers, thanks everyone for the responses...

I have not had her long, little over a month and a half I guess....

I have 2 young daughters (5 & 8) and she seems to take everything they are doing around her and or to her well, she is a sweetie...

only negative fault I find, is a tad lazy, but when SHE wants to pick up the pace she does, so maybe its just more wet saddle pads needed....

also, when its too wet to ride we exercise out in the road, we had our show goat out walking with us and she would "cut" him, as in cut him off, keep pace, pick up a trot if needed, she would pin her ears flats, snarl at him and even try to kick him.... he was a 90lb goat too

very alert, always watchin what we are doing...

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teamthompson
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ha ha ha, ok will keep that in mind....

my other mare is 6 months prego right now w a Streaking Ta Fame baby (so excited)....

but will have to see once baby gets here if we keep her or sell her....
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ampratt - 2015-10-22 9:39 AM

We have a colt with the Doc O Lena Blood lines and Swindler/Jet Smooth/Top Deck on top. He's only 2 so we haven't done much with him but he's built and looks just like you mare so I will take her if you don't like her!

my last post was for u ampratt...
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hoofs_in_motion - 2015-10-22 9:23 AM

She has really nice bone on her. I really like playgun bred horses, most I've come across were smart, and quick. There is an own son of playgun running barrels around here, he's 1D effortlessly and a solid roping horse. 

whats the studs name? do they market him?
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teamthompson
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Posted 2015-10-22 10:36 AM
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what about the OSU breeding program?????

anyone know anything about that?

Oklahoma State University

I tried calling to talk to the head of the breeding program but got nowhere.....
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teamthompson - 2015-10-22 10:34 AM

ampratt - 2015-10-22 9:39 AM

We have a colt with the Doc O Lena Blood lines and Swindler/Jet Smooth/Top Deck on top. He's only 2 so we haven't done much with him but he's built and looks just like you mare so I will take her if you don't like her!

my last post was for u ampratt...

I feel real sure you will want to keep her!
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I would love to have a playgun/doc o lena!! 
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teamthompson
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Posted 2015-10-22 6:00 PM
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are these horses "gritty" or all business? or are they sweet and loving and want attention?
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Flashin The County
Reg. Aug 2010
Posted 2015-10-22 6:55 PM
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My wife rides a Playgun and Doc Olena gelding. He's awesome. Ran in the 1D this year a Jud Littles. Solid 2d at big shows typically, but all the sudden has really started to clock. His sire is a son of Playgun out of a daughter of Smart Little Lena and his dam is an own daughter of Smart Lititle Lena. He's is unbelievably athletic and can run. A little "goosy" but nothing bad.
In reference to the post saying that Playguns catch on slow. That's totally opposite of all the ones we have had. Seems the well known horses get blamed when they are 3 or 4 generations back.
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Flashin The County
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teamthompson - 2015-10-22 6:00 PM

are these horses "gritty" or all business? or are they sweet and loving and want attention?

Ours is all of the above. He was a little slow to trust but once he did he loves attention. Really gritty and tons of try. Awesome turning style and as honest as they come. I wish I had a pasture full of them.
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Posted 2015-10-23 7:35 AM
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Awesome, well thats great news...

I cant wait to start her and she how she does....

she does not like spurs, even my little bumper ones...

She seems to be real responsive when i change my body position she will transition well, wether its go faster or slow down....
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Posted 2015-10-23 10:09 AM
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Runninbay
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Posted 2015-10-23 10:23 AM
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My mare is Doc Olena / OTMR.  She's 10 and I've had her for 3 years. I can't even begin to express how much try she has. She is incredibly willing and genuinely wants to please. That says so much about a horse in my opinion. She is a bit finicky and prefers to just be left alone during a run. She does NOT appreciate when I try to help lol. But that could be the OTMR coming out in her. They are quirky horses anyway. As far as late bloomers, this mare was clocking 2D/3D times as a 3 year old with her previous owner so I would say they arent late to bloom. Mine rarely gets into trouble. She is typically very serious minded. Doesnt play or do anything silly. As far as holding up, she has not had any soundness issues whatsoever. She is finer boned than I would prefer but as of now, I havent seen anything negative from it. (knock on wood)

This is mine when I first got her. She was 7.



 

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teamthompson
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Posted 2015-10-23 10:24 AM
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Runninbay - 2015-10-23 10:23 AM


My mare is Doc Olena / OTMR.  She's 10 and I've had her for 3 years. I can't even begin to express how much try she has. She is incredibly willing and genuinely wants to please. That says so much about a horse in my opinion. She is a bit finicky and prefers to just be left alone during a run. She does NOT appreciate when I try to help lol. But that could be the OTMR coming out in her. They are quirky horses anyway. As far as late bloomers, this mare was clocking 2D/3D times as a 3 year old with her previous owner so I would say they arent late to bloom. Mine rarely gets into trouble. She is typically very serious minded. Doesnt play or do anything silly. As far as holding up, she has not had any soundness issues whatsoever. She is finer boned than I would prefer but as of now, I havent seen anything negative from it. (knock on wood)

This is mine when I first got her. She was 7.



 

theres no picture.....
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teamthompson
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Posted 2015-10-23 10:31 AM
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this filly is totally OPPOSITE of the mare I have now, who is Flaming Jet and Flit to Kill bred....

she was a spaz, bat crap crazy, wouldn't load, wouldn't tie, etc... when I got her as a 4 yo --> but run, sheesh she can run and run and never wants to quit, she like the energizer bunny w never ending battery power... She should have been a race horse, she is only 14.2

so this filly, Frankie, is so much different, when I lounge her, she likes to quit when she thinks she had enuff lol, I am like its only been 15 mins bahahahaa, keep going


so far when riding, she picks up the correct leads, rates down when I ask, will break at poll/collect and roll her back into the saddle....

I have trotted threw the barrels, poles and straights only so far...
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teamthompson
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mollibtexan - 2015-10-23 10:09 AM

Love Doc Olena

so are these "great" horses too far back to have an influence?

like I said I couldn't find any info on her actual dam and sire.....
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teamthompson - 2015-10-23 11:24 AM
Runninbay - 2015-10-23 10:23 AM

My mare is Doc Olena / OTMR.  She's 10 and I've had her for 3 years. I can't even begin to express how much try she has. She is incredibly willing and genuinely wants to please. That says so much about a horse in my opinion. She is a bit finicky and prefers to just be left alone during a run. She does NOT appreciate when I try to help lol. But that could be the OTMR coming out in her. They are quirky horses anyway. As far as late bloomers, this mare was clocking 2D/3D times as a 3 year old with her previous owner so I would say they arent late to bloom. Mine rarely gets into trouble. She is typically very serious minded. Doesnt play or do anything silly. As far as holding up, she has not had any soundness issues whatsoever. She is finer boned than I would prefer but as of now, I havent seen anything negative from it. (knock on wood)



This is mine when I first got her. She was 7.




 
theres no picture.....

 
Hmm I tried again. Maybe it'll show up this time in my original post.
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teamthompson
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OutlawsLastDance - 2015-10-22 9:26 AM

IME - Doc O Lena's are fantastic horses. I have 2 and love them. One is 14 and the other is 9. They both have held up extremely well. They are both incredibly smart. Show them one time, and they've got it, it seems. You can't pick on them either. Very much the "they know their job, let them do it" types. Mine were not late bloomers. Very mature, sane minded from the time I got on them as 2.5 year olds.

My 9 yr old is a nosy nellie. She gets into everything and wants to follow me around the pasture when we are working on fence. She has a jolly ball and hanging ball in her stall.

yes my horses have large stalls, 12x16 and they both have jolly balls lol...

I just don't want to "mess" her up, since I have never owned a horse bred like this, just wanted to get as much info as I could to help me help her be the best she can be.....

when we ride, we spend lots of time backing up, backing up and down the large drainage ditches, long trotting the huge pastures, practicing transitions in speed w the change of my body position....

I feel that she is broke and responsive enuff to start adding some speed on the patterns....

my original plan was, if she was super quiet and level headed I was going to give her to my kids for their 4h all around horse (performance and speed)
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teamthompson
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Posted 2015-10-23 11:13 PM
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Do u think she will grow alot more?

Are these horses heavy muscled?
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Posted 2015-10-24 7:30 PM
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Love, Love, Love the Doc O Lena and Playguns both. Runningbay has my mare now that I trained that is pictured and she was tough and gritty since day one. A little opinionated but very sweet. I've had several other doc o Lena's and always try to buy horses with that bloodline. I've found them to be very smart, athletic, fast and willing. The playguns are also very athletic and quick but the few I have had have been a little slower growing mentaly and physically, but I still loved them. I think you have a really nice filly!

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teamthompson
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FlyinByU - 2015-10-24 7:30 PM

Love, Love, Love the Doc O Lena and Playguns both. Runningbay has my mare now that I trained that is pictured and she was tough and gritty since day one. A little opinionated but very sweet. I've had several other doc o Lena's and always try to buy horses with that bloodline. I've found them to be very smart, athletic, fast and willing. The playguns are also very athletic and quick but the few I have had have been a little slower growing mentaly and physically, but I still loved them. I think you have a really nice filly!

Ok awesome, thanks...
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I have a four year old Playgun granddaughter (Fiestas Gotta Gun daughter). She's the sweetest horse I've ever been around. Greets me at the fence and follows me around like a lost puppy. She acts like an old rodeo veteran... she hauls like a pro and stands tied as long as I need her to. Can't comment much else about her other than she's at the trainer and she says she's "very trainable".
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Longneck - 2015-10-24 9:35 PM

I have a four year old Playgun granddaughter (Fiestas Gotta Gun daughter). She's the sweetest horse I've ever been around. Greets me at the fence and follows me around like a lost puppy. She acts like an old rodeo veteran... she hauls like a pro and stands tied as long as I need her to. Can't comment much else about her other than she's at the trainer and she says she's "very trainable".

Congrats on ur Fiesta Gotta Gun baby, i want one lol....

Glad to here she is doing well....

My other mare is all run, so riding them is like night and day, Frankie i am having to push and ask her to step up the pace, whereas Porsche (flaming jet/ flit to kill) i am alwaya tryin to control the speed
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FlyinByU - 2015-10-24 7:30 PM

Love, Love, Love the Doc O Lena and Playguns both. Runningbay has my mare now that I trained that is pictured and she was tough and gritty since day one. A little opinionated but very sweet. I've had several other doc o Lena's and always try to buy horses with that bloodline. I've found them to be very smart, athletic, fast and willing. The playguns are also very athletic and quick but the few I have had have been a little slower growing mentaly and physically, but I still loved them. I think you have a really nice filly!

FluinByU how long do ur horses take to get going on the pattern?

granted I live down here in southern texas, and we just got 8+ inches of rain..... so will have to haul to be able to ride until it dries....
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