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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Random Poll....what kind of trucks do you haul with? What size trailer are you hauling? Chrysler is buying back our 2011 Ram 5500 and we had planned on another Ram 5500 but they are already recalling 2014 and 2015's for similar problems. So we are researching other options at this point. We have a 2005 DreamCoach 5 horse with 6 fort short wall and LQ we built ourselves. |
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Location: Oklahoma | We have a Ford F-350 dually. Currently hauling a small trailer, but capable of hauling a much larger trailer. I think you could get by with a one ton. I really like the new Ford F-450's |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | TwistedK - 2015-10-28 12:47 PM We have a Ford F-350 dually. Currently hauling a small trailer, but capable of hauling a much larger trailer. I think you could get by with a one ton. I really like the new Ford F-450's
We could definitely get by, but that's not what we want. We want something that will last "forever" (not that anything does anymore). But something we won't have to replace in 5 years |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | if you get a dodge get the aisin tranny!!! must be a 3500 |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | We have an F450 on the farm that has held up well. It will beat you to death if you're over trucked tho. I prefer the ride and interior on the GMs, and the Duramax/Alison has been good for us. |
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| We haul with a 06 1/2 Dodge 3500 dually. We've owned it from brand new when the DH placed the order. It easily hauls our double decked aluminum livestock trailer, my 2 horse slant, and an 18ft short walled 4 horse Sundowner that I borrowed a couple times last year.
The thing is a beast. However, we replace the U joints roughly every 20,000 miles ... apparently, this is common.
ETA - It is the desireable 5.9 Cummins.
My family consistently hauls livestock across the Rockies with Duramax GMC's of variuos years and sizes .... If you can afford them, they are THE way to go with the Alison tranny, great rides, and super reliability.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Search around and get one of the older Ford 7.3 diesels. They last far longer than most trucks out there, hold their value and have far fewer problems overall. IF you can find one that's been well kept. There are still quite a few lower mileage ones around. I saw one a while back on a cars.com search that had fewer than 100k miles. There are still a few around. Might have to drive some distance once you find it, but well worth it in my opinion. |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | We are going to research the daylights and hunt high and low. The nice thing is Chrysler is doing the buy back, which puts cash in our account to buy whatever we choose to, including looking at used ones. |
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| I have a Dodge 3500 that I've had for almost 3 years now and it's been the vehicle I've owned the longest. There have been some things that have not held up; I've had to replace a TON of stuff that has worn out - I pretty much have a new pickup now >:( but I can't blame it all on the pickup - I am pretty hard on vehicles (not sure why?!) So far it's been through a lightning strike = new computer and fried chip, left fender tore off, dealership fried alternator (yes, it can happen on purpose!) right fender tore off, plus gelling up (whoops!) I think all the ball joints and U joints have been replaced too.
I love the mileage it gets (17+ when loaded & pulling) and the power. I do keep it on a regular maintenance schedule.
Would I get another one? I don't know, I don't think it matters what I get I'm going to have issues 
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Location: North Dakota | I have a 2014 GMC Sierra 2500 (gas engine) that we bought earlier this year to pull my gooseneck Exiss 3-horse slant trailer with front large dressing room.
Does pretty good.
We've been REALLY impressed with hubby's 1/2 ton GMC Sierra that he has, so we decided to stick with the GMC brand.
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Location: Montana | We have 2 Dodge 2500 with the 12 valve Cummins in them. They are older (both 1994's), but we really like them. One we've had for a while, the other we just acquired but feel lucky to get it. So far the most we have hauled is a 2 horse slant with tack, and it handles it so good. We also haul hay with them. Also, the old 12 Valves you can work on and they just run good. We love them. We have them in a manual transmission, but that is what we prefer...so much less maintenance, in our opinion. |
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| lindseylou2290 - 2015-10-28 12:04 PM
We haul with a 06 1/2 Dodge 3500 dually. We've owned it from brand new when the DH placed the order. It easily hauls our double decked aluminum livestock trailer, my 2 horse slant, and an 18ft short walled 4 horse Sundowner that I borrowed a couple times last year.
The thing is a beast. However, we replace the U joints roughly every 20,000 miles ... apparently, this is common.
ETA - It is the desireable 5.9 Cummins.
My family consistently hauls livestock across the Rockies with Duramax GMC's of variuos years and sizes .... If you can afford them, they are THE way to go with the Alison tranny, great rides, and super reliability.
The U joints - how many **** U joints are on a pickup? I think I've replaced all mine - twice! My mechanic says Dodge's eat them up  Have you ever heard of the Dodge death rattle/shake? |
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Location: south central usa | the newest recall on the dodges actually has to do with the welding on the track bar brackets...think it affects the 2013 and 2014 trucks.
if you get bored and want to do some reading...here are 34 pages of threads discussing the new issue
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/2013-general-discussion/1791801-r...
I'd still go with dodge/ram over the other two.
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Location: Northwest Florida | It's funny that this thread just came up, as we are in the market for a 2500 right now! Looking for a used, low mileage (<100k) diesel. It's nice to read other's experiences hauling. We are hoping to seal a deal by the weekend. |
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Location: Kansas | I have a F-250. I have a 22'-24' 4 horse slant that is steel...so heavy, my truck pulls it with ease.
I've never had any mechanical issues, I avoid putting my chip in extreme mode, and can haul on performance instead of tow. I like mine so much, I'll keep buying Fords.
I do like the new chevy's, just no personal experience.
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Location: KS | Nita - 2015-10-28 12:07 PM
Search around and get one of the older Ford 7.3 diesels. They last far longer than most trucks out there, hold their value and have far fewer problems overall. IF you can find one that's been well kept. There are still quite a few lower mileage ones around. I saw one a while back on a cars.com search that had fewer than 100k miles. There are still a few around. Might have to drive some distance once you find it, but well worth it in my opinion.
THIS. ^^^^^ Dealerships can't keep these trucks on their lot because they sell so fast.
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Total Germophobe
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Location: Montana | veintiocho - 2015-10-28 11:23 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-10-28 12:04 PM We haul with a 06 1/2 Dodge 3500 dually. We've owned it from brand new when the DH placed the order. It easily hauls our double decked aluminum livestock trailer, my 2 horse slant, and an 18ft short walled 4 horse Sundowner that I borrowed a couple times last year.
The thing is a beast. However, we replace the U joints roughly every 20,000 miles ... apparently, this is common.
ETA - It is the desireable 5.9 Cummins.
My family consistently hauls livestock across the Rockies with Duramax GMC's of variuos years and sizes .... If you can afford them, they are THE way to go with the Alison tranny, great rides, and super reliability. The U joints - how many **** U joints are on a pickup? I think I've replaced all mine - twice! My mechanic says Dodge's eat them up Have you ever heard of the Dodge death rattle/shake?
Dodges are notorious for having weak front ends, and I think that is largely where the rattling/shaking comes from if I'm understanding you correctly. But that has to do with upper and lower ball joints, tie rod ends, that sort of thing. The reason they go bad is because the Cummins motor is so heavy. Almost every Dodge we have had had the front end rebuilt at some point in its life. We've also had front alloy wheels crack because of the same reason (because the motor is heavy), therefore (at least on the 1994-2002) steel wheels. As far as U joints, I only ever remember 1 Dodge that we put a U joint in, and it was a rear U joint. There are 2 on a 4x4, and 1 on a 2wd I believe. We prefer the manual transmission because we have had I believe 2 Dodges with either replaced or rebuilt transmissions close to the 100k miles point. We personally feel that you cannot beat a 5.9 liter Cummins engine, and the 12 valve over the 24 valve. A Cummins engine properly maintained will go about anywhere and do about anything. We've had several 24 valves, and they are a good engine too. Much better than the newer 6.7, but that has more to do with emmision controls than the quality of the engine.
We love our's, and that's part of the reason we got the 2nd 12 valve...dad didn't want me using his good truck, so we picked up this one for "me" to use, and they both are 94's. The one I'm gonna use has 228k miles and runs like a top, and dad's has about 147k miles on it. But like everything, with them good maintenance is the key to a long life. |
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| lindseylou2290 - 2015-10-28 12:04 PM
We haul with a 06 1/2 Dodge 3500 dually. We've owned it from brand new when the DH placed the order. It easily hauls our double decked aluminum livestock trailer, my 2 horse slant, and an 18ft short walled 4 horse Sundowner that I borrowed a couple times last year.
The thing is a beast. However, we replace the U joints roughly every 20,000 miles ... apparently, this is common.
ETA - It is the desireable 5.9 Cummins.
My family consistently hauls livestock across the Rockies with Duramax GMC's of variuos years and sizes .... If you can afford them, they are THE way to go with the Alison tranny, great rides, and super reliability.
that's not common
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Location: Oregon | I haul with a 2004-1/2 chevy 3500. I pull a 2012 platinum 4 horse with 10.5 ft short wall. I'll admit, I'm not going to win any races, especially going up a hill/mountain.. but it does its job and is a great truck. I'm hoping to have it for many more years. MY parents have a 2005 chevy 3500 that pulls a 2001 elite 4 horse with 11 ft short wall. Same as my truck, not going to win any races going up a hill, but it will make it. my parents is completely stock, mine has a few upgrades (larger fuel tank, airbags on the rear axles, cool air intake - we bought it used and it came with all of it). Only issue we had with mine was when we had it chipped and we kept blowing the pipe that comes off the turbo (to the radiator? I think). Hasn't been an issue since we removed the chip. |
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| Nita - 2015-10-28 10:07 AM
Search around and get one of the older Ford 7.3 diesels. They last far longer than most trucks out there, hold their value and have far fewer problems overall. IF you can find one that's been well kept. There are still quite a few lower mileage ones around. I saw one a while back on a cars.com search that had fewer than 100k miles. There are still a few around. Might have to drive some distance once you find it, but well worth it in my opinion.
I agree...we have a '98 F350 dually with the 7.3 engine and this thing is a beast. We are going to replace it at the end of the year with something else, though. (Our family has grown and the truck isn't the extended cab so it's now too small.) My husband used to use it for moonlighting as a trucker and this thing hauled pretty much anything with no issues, but since we haven't been doing very well financially there are some things that should have been taken care of that we have let go. It has 294k miles on it and it is just now starting to show. If we fix it I think it can go to the 500k mark if the rest of the truck holds up. I can't go anywhere without people offering to buy it from me. One day I'm going to take someone up on their offer. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | We have two F350's.... We have a 2009 I believe, crew cab diesel. We mainly use it to haul our toy hauler with is HUGE and fully loaded weighs much more then any of our horse trailers. But we are always having little issues with it and it gets HORRID fuel mileage. Pulls like a dream and you can cruise up and down anything fully loaded. It only has 30k miles on it because of the fuel mileage, I am talking we are lucky to get 7mpg fully loaded. It is lifted lol
Then there is MY trusty pickup. I bought fresh out of high school. It is a 2001 F350 dually with the 7.3 powerstroke. LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE my truck! It hauls all of my horse trailer down the road just fine. I haul a 4 horse slant charmac with 5 horses in it alot of the time. I also have hauled several LQ trailers with it. I get on the average right around 18-22 mpg loaded or not and it's a four wheel drive. She is a major work horse. We have actually been using it a lot the last few years over our fancy "new" ford due to the fuel mileage being soooo much higher. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Nita - 2015-10-28 12:07 PM Search around and get one of the older Ford 7.3 diesels. They last far longer than most trucks out there, hold their value and have far fewer problems overall. IF you can find one that's been well kept. There are still quite a few lower mileage ones around. I saw one a while back on a cars.com search that had fewer than 100k miles. There are still a few around. Might have to drive some distance once you find it, but well worth it in my opinion.
Yup. I have two. SO rebuilt both engines and trannys for me. Replaced all the hoses and fittings. They don't have a leak one under the hood and fire right up. I also have a F350 dually flatbed as a farm truck with a 460 gas engine that runs off gas or propane. I've had it since I was 14. All three are manual transmissions. The 460 is also is a great go getter. She'll pull all day every day but gets terrible gas mileage. She just sounds cool and looks punchy, so I keep her around LOL
SO bought himself a '13 1500 Hemi to drive instead of a diesel. Said he has me to keep his diesel side entertained, he said he works on his friend's and maintenences mine too much to want one. He said all the newer diesels have too many regulators and start falling apart after 100k miles. I'd have to agree. All our friends with newer diesels can't even hardly GIVE them away to try and get a better truck. And that's newer 6.7s and dodge 5.9s... And those are the most popular engines of both Ford and Dodge.
My Dad had to delete and straight pipe his 6.7 Ford F250 because of the def system. The truck was basically attacking itself via it's internal computer. SO has all the equiptment and computers and helped take the def system off. It's highly illegal to remove it and it won't pass inspection because of the emissions, but we have found ways around getting it to pass. Heavy fines if Daddy is caught with it being deleted, but the truck literally shut itself down while pulling a flatbed trailer ahlfway to Oklahoma. The dealership wanted to give him 2k trade in value for a 2014 since they had to reset the system and replace the Def System... He had exactly 102,000 miles on it when it's system attacked itself. SO had Daddy's truck reprogrammed the next week and running without the def system. They straight piped it and put a programmer on it. Truck pulls like a dream and he's not had any problems since. We kept the def system so that when or if he trades it in we can get it back to stock. Dealership legally can't take a truck without the Def system on it. Daddy has it paid off now tho so I doubt he will trade it in.
I'm so glad I didn't buy a new one when I was looking for one... I found a dead and beat up 7.3 sitting in a pasture and got it for about 2,500 and brought it back to life. I'll never get rid of either of my 7.3s or my 460.
If you are dead set on buying new get a 6.7 diesel or 5.9 diesel. Drive it for about 50,000 miles and trade it in or sell it. Those two are easy to "get rid of". People are starting to figure out that newer trucks last about 100k miles before the entire def system needs to be replaced. And that's costly. Most people won't buy a newer truck with anything close to 100k miles on it unless the Def System has already been replaced. Dealership doesn't warranty it, as far as I am aware and insurance won't cover the cost to replace it. I have three friends right now without trucks because they can't afford to replace the system and they can't afford to sell it because they owe too much on it. |
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Location: n.c. | Have a 99 F-350 dually w/ 6 speed manual. Love this truck and will not turn it loose.
2002 F-250 w/ auto transmission. Same as above. Love the truck and will keep it
till it falls all to pieces.
Son has a 2003 F-250. All 3 trucks have the 7.3. We love this motor and will keep patching
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Location: Washington | We had/still have an '05 F150 to pull our little two horse, steel frame and fiber glass shell.
We recently got an '05 F550, 6 speed, to pull the same trailer! LOL! A little over kill but we also haul a lot of hay and have plans for a MUCH bigger truck in the future. With a tractor and four 1K lb round bales you couldn't tell anything was back there.
One thing we were NOT aware of is because of it's size it required a commercial insurance policy. This might be different from state to state, we are in WA. Well that commercial policy is as much as it cost to have full coverage on an '07 Jeep and liability on the F150. Just something to think about. |
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