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Location: West Texas | Here is an interesting video on bentonite clay. I feed it through the Omnis cubes (4th ingredient) and I think it has been one of the reasons for such good health in our horses and the ability for the feed to rehabilitate so well (natural detox). It also answers much of the question as to why I have seen such good results without using a commercial mineral product. On top of the high natural minerals in my horses diets, they are getting a natural supplement (Bentonite) with added salt and minerals, for optimum health. The question has been raised on here what natural mineral would be good to add to a natural feed program.
The video is aimed at humans and I think many here will find that interesting and helpful info. I plan on starting to use this myself because of the benefits it provides. Might be something worth considering supplementing or using yourself. There are a few places that sell it on the web, both human and for horses.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D_lhVbFFaYs
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | We use bentonite clay to plug holes in a leaking pond. Not sure I want to ingest that although it may help a leaky gut? |
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| There is "food grade" and then the other grades used for water & oil wells. A lot of our bentonite here goes to grain mills  |
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Location: Beggs, OK | This explains some of the differences and uses of Bentonite:
http://www.calciumbentonite.net/index2.html |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | On another note I buy Bentonite from the health food store and mix it with apple cider vinegar and make a mask and really tightens up your face! |
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Location: Willows, CA | Lots of companies use Bentonite as a binder for pelleting or cubing. There are different deposits across the country that have different properties. Recent research is showing positive benefits from Bentonite in horse diets as well as other species. There is an indication that there may be a positive effect on ulcer horses as well as the potential use in binding some toxins in the system. At the proper inclusion this looks like a positive thing. |
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| My parents pond is leaking, question, how do you find the leaky spot? How do you use the clay to fix it?
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| thanks for sharing...will check it out. always looking for more natural things to aid in help inflammation, with my old guys .... |
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Location: almost heaven | How much do you feed your horses and how often? |
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Location: West Texas | It's in my feed so I feed low doses everyday. I think it would depend what type of clay and what you wanted to treat or just maintain.
There are ptiducts out there for horses and people, I would look at that and follow directions. |
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| Bentonite is also called swell clay. You need to be careful though. Animals really shouldn't have more than 2% of Bentonite in the mix. So if your feed mill is making a 1,500 pound batch, no more than 30 pounds if Bentonite should be added to the batch.
It's used when making pellets because if your product is too wet, the pellets come out small and crumbly. You add the Bentonite to bind and reduce moisture. Pellets coming off the die should be hard and shiney.
If you are feeding a pellet with a Bentonite binder, you really should think twice about feeding more Bentonite unless you specifically know the amount of Bentonite in the product you are using. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Detox means diarrhea; that is all. Of course calcium helps ulcers, temporarily, look at the main ingredient in tums, calcium bicarbonate. Calcium only controls symptoms though.
Like anything, be careful and don't look for a one stop shop to fix all yours or your horses' health woes. There is truth in 'too much of a good thing.' |
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Location: West Texas | My understanding is that Bentonite treats diarrhea, and is not how it supposedly detoxes. It binds to agents and carries them out.
Also on amount, definitely less than 2% in my feed. Good info to not feed too much. Follow the dosage instructions and have to buy feed grade.
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | I believe this is an ingredient in Biosponge, right? |
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Great link! Very informative. Looks like if you are using Bentonite, the first thing you need to figure out is if it's sodium bentonite or calcium bentonite. And if it's being added to your feed, what type they use. Sure isn't as clear cut as just simply adding it to any diet. |
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| barrelracr131 - 2015-10-31 7:27 AM
I believe this is an ingredient in Biosponge, right?
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | It's in Immodium too, I think. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | oija - 2015-10-31 7:56 AM
Detox means diarrhea; that is all. Of course calcium helps ulcers, temporarily, look at the main ingredient in tums, calcium bicarbonate. Calcium only controls symptoms though.
Like anything, be careful and don't look for a one stop shop to fix all yours or your horses' health woes. There is truth in 'too much of a good thing.'
It's the bicarbonate in tums that neutralizes the gastric acid. Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) does the same thing.
I'd love it if someone would tell me what these "toxins" are they are talking about. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | oranges - 2015-10-31 9:31 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-10-31 7:27 AM I believe this is an ingredient in Biosponge, right? Bump
So I looked. It does not say. It is in animed Impede for foals. |
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| barrelracr131 - 2015-10-31 10:47 AM oranges - 2015-10-31 9:31 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-10-31 7:27 AM I believe this is an ingredient in Biosponge, right? Bump
I have some biosponge out in my barn ... keep it on hand for various "things"
I'd put real money down that one of the main ingredients is calcium bentonite. |
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Location: Midwest | Makes sense. I bout the animed stuff as cheaper biosponge option |
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| Bear - 2015-10-31 10:43 AM
oija - 2015-10-31 7:56 AM
Detox means diarrhea; that is all. Of course calcium helps ulcers, temporarily, look at the main ingredient in tums, calcium bicarbonate. Calcium only controls symptoms though.
Like anything, be careful and don't look for a one stop shop to fix all yours or your horses' health woes. There is truth in 'too much of a good thing.'
It's the bicarbonate in tums that neutralizes the gastric acid. Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda ) does the same thing.
I'd love it if someone would tell me what these "toxins" are they are talking about.
the bad ones.
You know the ones that cause inflammation.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Bear - 2015-10-31 10:43 AM
oija - 2015-10-31 7:56 AM
Detox means diarrhea; that is all. Of course calcium helps ulcers, temporarily, look at the main ingredient in tums, calcium bicarbonate. Calcium only controls symptoms though.
Like anything, be careful and don't look for a one stop shop to fix all yours or your horses' health woes. There is truth in 'too much of a good thing.'
It's the bicarbonate in tums that neutralizes the gastric acid. Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda ) does the same thing.
I'd love it if someone would tell me what these "toxins" are they are talking about.
Interesting. My mom, who is a nurse, told me they used to prescribe milk for acid issues because of the calcium so I assumed it was the calcium that had a short term neutralizing effect. Milk is certainly basic in ph. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | arion - 2015-10-31 11:41 AM
Bear - 2015-10-31 10:43 AM
oija - 2015-10-31 7:56 AM
Detox means diarrhea; that is all. Of course calcium helps ulcers, temporarily, look at the main ingredient in tums, calcium bicarbonate. Calcium only controls symptoms though.
Like anything, be careful and don't look for a one stop shop to fix all yours or your horses' health woes. There is truth in 'too much of a good thing.'
It's the bicarbonate in tums that neutralizes the gastric acid. Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda ) does the same thing.
I'd love it if someone would tell me what these "toxins" are they are talking about.
the bad ones.
You know the ones that cause inflammation.
I believe they are also called horse apples. Why else would they come out the back end? Having just had 3 inches of rain very little smells as toxic as wet horse $hit. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | oija - 2015-10-31 12:50 PM
Bear - 2015-10-31 10:43 AM
oija - 2015-10-31 7:56 AM
Detox means diarrhea; that is all. Of course calcium helps ulcers, temporarily, look at the main ingredient in tums, calcium bicarbonate. Calcium only controls symptoms though.
Like anything, be careful and don't look for a one stop shop to fix all yours or your horses' health woes. There is truth in 'too much of a good thing.'
It's the bicarbonate in tums that neutralizes the gastric acid. Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda ) does the same thing.
I'd love it if someone would tell me what these "toxins" are they are talking about.
Interesting. My mom, who is a nurse, told me they used to prescribe milk for acid issues because of the calcium so I assumed it was the calcium that had a short term neutralizing effect. Milk is certainly basic in ph.
There's a lot of myth about ulcers that persists. People used to say orange juice, for example, caused or irritated ulcers because it is acidic. The fact is that almost any food raises the pH in the stomach, including orange juice. Weakly acidic substances in the stomach raise the pH. The HCl in the stomach is very acidic so anything is better than pure gastric acid. I'm talking humans.....horses almost always have food in their stomachs, of course. |
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Location: West Texas | Here is a list of all of the minerals in Bentonite. I though it would be helpful to the discussion.
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