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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | I've noticed in the last few weeks one of my geldings starts coughing as soon as I get him out of his stall and start to saddle him. He will be perfectly fine but seems like as soon at my saddle hits his back he starts coughing up a storm. I know some horses fake being lame to keep from being ridden. Is it possible for one to "fake" cough? I'll get him completely saddled walk him around for about 5min and he quits. No one believed me until I videoed it because it just doesn't make sence. First time I thought maybe he was getting a cold but he's not snotty and no fever.
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Location: Texas | I have had the worst time with 2 of my geldings this year. We have tried so many things, and although it gets better for a time, it will then worsen. I doubt they have the ability to fake a cough, but I do know that mine have coughed more this year than ever. I am in N. Tx. Currently they both cough 3-5 times EVERY TIME they are started. (Not necessarily when they are saddled, but when i begin to trot) | |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | A cough for a horse usually means a couple things. Allergies are most common, especially if they only cough when you start warming up, but damage to their lungs if they are or have been a bleeder can be another. You can give a horse benedryl to try and see if they get better from allergies. There are also several supplements. I know Herbie frequently recommends the CurOst from her horse who had significant respiratory issues. Some vets will prescribe some form of steroids if it the breathing issues become more severe. That being said, if you horse is a bleeder or might be, its often good to take them into a vet and have them scoped. Lasix is the best short term treatment for bleeders though there are some feed through supplements that are supposed to help some with this too.
Article on allergies: http://www.horses-and-horse-information.com/articles/0395allergy.sh...
Some treatments: https://www.valleyvet.com/c/horse-supplies/horse-health-care/horse-r...
Information on bleeders (EIPH): http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/horse-health/2211-guarantee...
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | I would get them scoped to be on the safe side.....could be an array of things. | |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | oija - 2015-12-03 8:06 AM A cough for a horse usually means a couple things. Allergies are most common, especially if they only cough when you start warming up, but damage to their lungs if they are or have been a bleeder can be another. You can give a horse benedryl to try and see if they get better from allergies. There are also several supplements. I know Herbie frequently recommends the CurOst from her horse who had significant respiratory issues. Some vets will prescribe some form of steroids if it the breathing issues become more severe. That being said, if you horse is a bleeder or might be, its often good to take them into a vet and have them scoped. Lasix is the best short term treatment for bleeders though there are some feed through supplements that are supposed to help some with this too. Article on allergies: http://www.horses-and-horse-information.com/articles/0395allergy.sh... Some treatments: https://www.valleyvet.com/c/horse-supplies/horse-health-care/horse-r... Information on bleeders (EIPH ): http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/horse-health/2211-guarantee...
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Location: NE Texas | I highly recommend the Cur-OST products. I had a horse who went from having mild allergies and a slight exercise induced cough to being in full blown respiratory distress in less than 30 days. I had been able to "manage" the issue for several years through other supplements, but the mild cough never went away. I've owned this horse since he was a weanling. As a yearling he developed a severe cold and since has had these residual allergies. Through the years i've had him scoped several times, always the same reccommendation, ventipulmin, anti-biotics, etc to try and clear out the mucous. Never much improvement. The dust always bothered him, as did humidity. When it was time to season this horse, the added stress caused these respiratory symptoms to worsen and do so very quickly. In 3 months time I went to 4 different vets in 2 states, did 3 standing scopes, and exercise scope, two treatments of antibiotics, ventipulmin up to 8 cc per day per vet, daily Dexamethasone, nebulizer treatments with Rx medications, Prednisone injections, the list goes on and on. I also had this horse on Rx Ranitidine or Omeprazole this entire time trying to combat the ulcers he obviously was dealing with as well. I spent over $5000 in 3 months at the vets trying to get this situation controlled with no improvement. This horse was in complete respiratory distress, short shallow breaths combined with blue gums and wide panicked eyes. He was suffocating. The last time I took him to the vet, they advised there was nothing more that could be done, as even on 8 cc of Ventipulmin daily with Dex, this horse couldn't take a deep enough breath to cough. The vet offered to write a letter to my insurance company, but I wasn't ready to take that step, not yet at least.
I began researching and a friend of mine advised me to give 30cc of French's mustard daily for 5 days. When I did that, my horse mustered up a tiny cough and began having nasal discharge. Very small improvement, but improvement nontheless. I began researching the ingredients of the French's and that led me to turmeric. I began researching turmeric and realized curcurmin is more absorbable, hence the link I shared above on this thread. When I began reaserching curcurmin, I found bcm-95 curcurmin and that it was almost 96% absorbable, and that research led me to Cur-OST.
I consulted with Dr. Schell for probably 3 weeks asking questions and likely driving him crazy with my skepticism. He finally said, "Just give him 2 weeks on these products...." and I took a leap of faith and bought it. I discontinued every single Rx medication or top dress supplement of any kind, including pre and probiotics, and started the Cur-OST. Best decision I have ever made for my horses! Seeing is absolutely believing, and after all the money I spent, the Cur-OST was absolutely the BEST investment I made. I went from a horse who was suffocating right in front of me to a horse I was back to exercising in 2 weeks and back to riding in a month.
Dr. Schell wrote a great article explaining how respiratory conditions (and all other chronic inflammatory conditions) are related to hind gut health and an over active immune system. https://www.nouvelleresearch.com/index.php/articles/401-to-breathe-or-not-to-breathe-copd-i-a-d
To call this product a supplement is almost unfair. It is that powerful! These results are easy to see! The first pic below is March 24, the week I started the Cur-OST. The second pic is April 25.
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