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I have decided that the NFR stands for Nightmare For Rodeo.... they seriously know these big horses are coming - they expect this "great production" and yet they cannot give these girls safe ground to run on. Clearly if you are not in the top five of the draw - it's a dangerous adventure to run up that alley - may as well "high lope" to that first barrel and pray your horse can get around it. Shame on the WPRA for not pitching a holy royal fit and getting better ground for them.  |
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| I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.)
I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse.
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I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.)
I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse.
I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out... |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out...
Sometimes those super quick splat falls are easier on them than the ones where it seems to happen in slow motion and they struggle to keep their feet, or they only go halfway down and keep trying to grab ground. I sure hope he's ok. IMO it's a crime to provide dangerous ground year after year at the biggest rodeo of the season. Makes me want to kick some ass on the girls' and horses' behalf. It's rodeo, it doesn't have to be perfect, but it should be safe. They have had problems from Round 1, it should have been fixed by now. |
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WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out...
You could see going to the second barrel that it hurt, and he looked off when she stopped him in alley too, while full of adrenaline. Horse's can have a lot of damage done when their legs split like that, and his back right also went in a weird angle in general. I would seriously question her motives if she's on him tonight, that's all I'm saying. |
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WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out...
You could see going to the second barrel that it hurt, and he looked off when she stopped him in alley too, while full of adrenaline. Horse's can have a lot of damage done when their legs split like that, and his back right also went in a weird angle in general. I would seriously question her motives if she's on him tonight, that's all I'm saying.
Are you kidding me? I really AM being nice when I say that it is best to not make statements such as these when you are not there, haven't seen the horse and have no business running your mouth! |
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WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out...
You could see going to the second barrel that it hurt, and he looked off when she stopped him in alley too, while full of adrenaline. Horse's can have a lot of damage done when their legs split like that, and his back right also went in a weird angle in general. I would seriously question her motives if she's on him tonight, that's all I'm saying.
Are you kidding me? I really AM being nice when I say that it is best to not make statements such as these when you are not there, haven't seen the horse and have no business running your mouth!
I can have an opinion of whoever I want. Where am I running my mouth? You can see in the video he takes several off steps, that means "ouch, that kinda hurt", but he kept running. If you can't see that from the video, maybe you need your eyes checked. |
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WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out...
You could see going to the second barrel that it hurt, and he looked off when she stopped him in alley too, while full of adrenaline. Horse's can have a lot of damage done when their legs split like that, and his back right also went in a weird angle in general. I would seriously question her motives if she's on him tonight, that's all I'm saying.
Are you kidding me? I really AM being nice when I say that it is best to not make statements such as these when you are not there, haven't seen the horse and have no business running your mouth!
I can have an opinion of whoever I want. Where am I running my mouth? You can see in the video he takes several off steps, that means "ouch, that kinda hurt", but he kept running. If you can't see that from the video, maybe you need your eyes checked.
Yes, you are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but to make a statement such as "I'd be questioning her motives" is not only completely unnecessary, but tacky. As I stated in an earlier post, I am sure that Radio will be checked over, cared for and the best, most well informed decision will be made. To type a statement that would imply that Carley would be unconcerned with her horses well being is not stating your opinion of how the horse looked after the fall, but does pretty well show what your opinion is of her as a person. That is where you got off track. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Let's not let this turn in to a cat fight, for a change. How about it? |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 9:20 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 9:14 AM WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 10:12 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 9:09 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-12-08 9:48 AM WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out... You could see going to the second barrel that it hurt, and he looked off when she stopped him in alley too, while full of adrenaline. Horse's can have a lot of damage done when their legs split like that, and his back right also went in a weird angle in general. I would seriously question her motives if she's on him tonight, that's all I'm saying. Are you kidding me? I really AM being nice when I say that it is best to not make statements such as these when you are not there, haven't seen the horse and have no business running your mouth! I can have an opinion of whoever I want. Where am I running my mouth? You can see in the video he takes several off steps, that means "ouch, that kinda hurt", but he kept running. If you can't see that from the video, maybe you need your eyes checked. Yes, you are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but to make a statement such as "I'd be questioning her motives" is not only completely unnecessary, but tacky. As I stated in an earlier post, I am sure that Radio will be checked over, cared for and the best, most well informed decision will be made. To type a statement that would imply that Carley would be unconcerned with her horses well being is not stating your opinion of how the horse looked after the fall, but does pretty well show what your opinion is of her as a person. That is where you got off track.
Uhm..... What? 
Mind Blown at the immaturity of this statement.... 
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| WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 10:20 AM
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FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 9:09 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2015-12-08 9:48 AM
WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out...
You could see going to the second barrel that it hurt, and he looked off when she stopped him in alley too, while full of adrenaline. Horse's can have a lot of damage done when their legs split like that, and his back right also went in a weird angle in general. I would seriously question her motives if she's on him tonight, that's all I'm saying.
Are you kidding me? I really AM being nice when I say that it is best to not make statements such as these when you are not there, haven't seen the horse and have no business running your mouth!
I can have an opinion of whoever I want. Where am I running my mouth? You can see in the video he takes several off steps, that means "ouch, that kinda hurt", but he kept running. If you can't see that from the video, maybe you need your eyes checked.
Yes, you are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but to make a statement such as "I'd be questioning her motives" is not only completely unnecessary, but tacky. As I stated in an earlier post, I am sure that Radio will be checked over, cared for and the best, most well informed decision will be made. To type a statement that would imply that Carley would be unconcerned with her horses well being is not stating your opinion of how the horse looked after the fall, but does pretty well show what your opinion is of her as a person. That is where you got off track.
LOL. My opinion should not matter this much to you. I said I will be questioning it if she decides to run him, I'm not saying anyone else has to. That's my opinion, how am I running my mouth for saying that? I did not say anything you are accusing me of saying. If you assumed that's what I meant, then you know what they say about assuming.
Oh and by the way, I have a lot of respect for Carley, and backed her going into the NFR, but that doesn't mean that I can't question some things she does. She is still human, and is not perfect. Just like all of us.
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Let's not let this turn in to a cat fight, for a change. How about it?
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 9:09 AM
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WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out...
You could see going to the second barrel that it hurt, and he looked off when she stopped him in alley too, while full of adrenaline. Horse's can have a lot of damage done when their legs split like that, and his back right also went in a weird angle in general. I would seriously question her motives if she's on him tonight, that's all I'm saying.
You're a piece of work... you've wanted her to run her back-up horse all week, for what reason, I cant remember but good grief. Its her horse and she knows him better than you. That is a very bold statement to make and you need to check yourself. Rude... flat out rude. Have some manners.
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WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out...
You could see going to the second barrel that it hurt, and he looked off when she stopped him in alley too, while full of adrenaline. Horse's can have a lot of damage done when their legs split like that, and his back right also went in a weird angle in general. I would seriously question her motives if she's on him tonight, that's all I'm saying.
You're a piece of work... you've wanted her to run her back-up horse all week, for what reason, I cant remember but good grief. Its her horse and she knows him better than you. That is a very bold statement to make and you need to check yourself. Rude... flat out rude. Have some manners.
Good grief.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 9:30 AM Bear - 2015-12-08 9:25 AM Let's not let this turn in to a cat fight, for a change. How about it? Oh, I'm done.... No worries.
I understand how you feel Andy, all I can do is shake my head at all these opinions. Seems like all the ones at home watching on tv know whats best.  |
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stayceem - 2015-12-08 10:34 AM
FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 9:09 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2015-12-08 9:48 AM
WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out...
You could see going to the second barrel that it hurt, and he looked off when she stopped him in alley too, while full of adrenaline. Horse's can have a lot of damage done when their legs split like that, and his back right also went in a weird angle in general. I would seriously question her motives if she's on him tonight, that's all I'm saying.
You're a piece of work... you've wanted her to run her back-up horse all week, for what reason, I cant remember but good grief. Its her horse and she knows him better than you. That is a very bold statement to make and you need to check yourself. Rude... flat out rude. Have some manners.
Good grief.
You may want to read my last post, because good lord you guys and your assumptions.
Then please explain what you mean by "if she runs her horse tonight, I will question her motives." Please explain to me how that can mean anything else than you implying that her motives are anything but pure when it comes to her buddy athlete?.... |
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Also, I thought it was such a shame that the right barrel was awful last night. It seemed like almost all the horses had trouble at it and it me the arena dirt looked a little drier than the previous nights?
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FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 9:35 AM
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Three 4 Luck - 2015-12-08 9:48 AM
WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out...
You could see going to the second barrel that it hurt, and he looked off when she stopped him in alley too, while full of adrenaline. Horse's can have a lot of damage done when their legs split like that, and his back right also went in a weird angle in general. I would seriously question her motives if she's on him tonight, that's all I'm saying.
You're a piece of work... you've wanted her to run her back-up horse all week, for what reason, I cant remember but good grief. Its her horse and she knows him better than you. That is a very bold statement to make and you need to check yourself. Rude... flat out rude. Have some manners.
Good grief.
You may want to read my last post, because good lord you guys and your assumptions.
Then please explain what you mean by "if she runs her horse tonight, I will question her motives." Please explain to me how that can mean anything else than you implying that her motives are anything but pure when it comes to her buddy athlete?....
Ok, I will give you guys some benefit here, Motives wasn't really the word I should've used because of the bad things that could accompany it, Actions or Thought Processes is probably the better ones for what my intended meaning was. So I will give you that I worded it in a way that could be taken incorrectly from what I meant (which is the glory of written posts). I meant more along the lines of "What is that girl thinking" or "Well, I hope she's right" kinda ways. I was not meaning that she didn't care about her horse. |
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Location: Nebraska | newracer - 2015-12-08 9:46 AM I think it was right after she ran and before Bo and Taylor ran..did anyone see the ground in the spot they fell? Was that concrete showing?
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I think it was right after she ran and before Bo and Taylor ran..did anyone see the ground in the spot they fell? Was that concrete showing?
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I think it was right after she ran and before Bo and Taylor ran..did anyone see the ground in the spot they fell? Was that concrete showing?
A few people who were there said that it was concrete showing, talk about broken legs waiting to happen there, running full speed and hitting concrete....*shudders*.
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| iheartrodeo - 2015-12-08 10:20 AM
Surely it's not the concrete! I hope not. I thought it was just where his hip pancaked. Like when a horse rolls...they really smooth out the dirt...
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| I wrote Carley earlier. I havent heard back. I'm sure she is much too busy right now. I can assure you that IF Carley runs him tonight it wont be out of greed by any standards...it will have meant that she TRUELY believes him to be sound and OK. I doubt very much that she runs him...but I know how much she loves that horse and can assure you that she is confident in Boy enough to jump on him if she things that Radio is not 100%. Boy is no slacker for a backup horse...both are very capable. |
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Location: western Nebraska | MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 10:34 AM I wrote Carley earlier. I havent heard back. I'm sure she is much too busy right now. I can assure you that IF Carley runs him tonight it wont be out of greed by any standards...it will have meant that she TRUELY believes him to be sound and OK. I doubt very much that she runs him...but I know how much she loves that horse and can assure you that she is confident in Boy enough to jump on him if she things that Radio is not 100%. Boy is no slacker for a backup horse...both are very capable.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 10:34 AM I wrote Carley earlier. I havent heard back. I'm sure she is much too busy right now. I can assure you that IF Carley runs him tonight it wont be out of greed by any standards...it will have meant that she TRUELY believes him to be sound and OK. I doubt very much that she runs him...but I know how much she loves that horse and can assure you that she is confident in Boy enough to jump on him if she things that Radio is not 100%. Boy is no slacker for a backup horse...both are very capable.
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| doglady - 2015-12-08 10:37 AM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 10:34 AM I wrote Carley earlier. I havent heard back. I'm sure she is much too busy right now. I can assure you that IF Carley runs him tonight it wont be out of greed by any standards...it will have meant that she TRUELY believes him to be sound and OK. I doubt very much that she runs him...but I know how much she loves that horse and can assure you that she is confident in Boy enough to jump on him if she things that Radio is not 100%. Boy is no slacker for a backup horse...both are very capable. I love reading your posts but I am a hundred years old and your script is really hard to read. Sorry i m probably the only one but I have to skip you a lot because I can't read it. Is there anyway you could change it or make it bigger??
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Location: western Nebraska | MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 10:40 AM doglady - 2015-12-08 10:37 AM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 10:34 AM I wrote Carley earlier. I havent heard back. I'm sure she is much too busy right now. I can assure you that IF Carley runs him tonight it wont be out of greed by any standards...it will have meant that she TRUELY believes him to be sound and OK. I doubt very much that she runs him...but I know how much she loves that horse and can assure you that she is confident in Boy enough to jump on him if she things that Radio is not 100%. Boy is no slacker for a backup horse...both are very capable. I love reading your posts but I am a hundred years old and your script is really hard to read. Sorry i m probably the only one but I have to skip you a lot because I can't read it. Is there anyway you could change it or make it bigger??
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| doglady - 2015-12-08 10:41 AM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 10:40 AM doglady - 2015-12-08 10:37 AM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 10:34 AM I wrote Carley earlier. I havent heard back. I'm sure she is much too busy right now. I can assure you that IF Carley runs him tonight it wont be out of greed by any standards...it will have meant that she TRUELY believes him to be sound and OK. I doubt very much that she runs him...but I know how much she loves that horse and can assure you that she is confident in Boy enough to jump on him if she things that Radio is not 100%. Boy is no slacker for a backup horse...both are very capable. I love reading your posts but I am a hundred years old and your script is really hard to read. Sorry i m probably the only one but I have to skip you a lot because I can't read it. Is there anyway you could change it or make it bigger??
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Location: North Dakota | I hope Radio is feeling alright. It made me sick to watch him fall like that.
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Location: Florida | I think all the girls should agree to high-lope through the pattern tonight as a joint protest to the ground conditions!
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Location: the end of the rainbow | iheartrodeo - 2015-12-08 8:20 AM
Surely it's not the concrete! I hope not. I thought it was just where his hip pancaked. Like when a horse rolls...they really smooth out the dirt...
One if my Facebook friends posted a decent quality video from right to the left of the alley and down low in the seating. From that video the spot looks exaclty like the tire tracks of the truck that dropped off the barrels. Same shade of color and everything. I hope you're right.Hope Radio us feeling good this morning. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | I had to go watch the round after seeing this thread just because....
Yes it was a bad fall. No I don't see where appeared sore after the fall. I saw where Carley safetied up and wasn't pushing hard, so he wasn't running as hard.
Every one of those ladies deserves respect from all of us. They didn't get there without caring about those horses. The ground is way better then it was last year, but getting worse each round :( |
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| brlracerchick - 2015-12-08 7:48 AM
newracer - 2015-12-08 9:46 AM I think it was right after she ran and before Bo and Taylor ran..did anyone see the ground in the spot they fell? Was that concrete showing?
I wondered what that was as well. I thought it was just a glare.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | missroselee - 2015-12-08 11:15 AM I had to go watch the round after seeing this thread just because....
Yes it was a bad fall. No I don't see where appeared sore after the fall. I saw where Carley safetied up and wasn't pushing hard, so he wasn't running as hard.
Every one of those ladies deserves respect from all of us. They didn't get there without caring about those horses. The ground is way better then it was last year, but getting worse each round :(
I agree....last year it started out horrendous and they finally worked it about round 4 or 5....this year it is getting worse......I will say that if anything like that happened in ANY other event the PRCA Directors (& Judges) would be SCREAMING their heads off and the ground would get FIXED...... |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 9:58 AM
newracer - 2015-12-08 10:46 AM
I think it was right after she ran and before Bo and Taylor ran..did anyone see the ground in the spot they fell? Was that concrete showing?
A few people who were there said that it was concrete showing, talk about broken legs waiting to happen there, running full speed and hitting concrete....*shudders*.
Can't say I'm surprised really... T&M has always been sketchy ground. I just hope it doesn't take someone getting seriously hurt or killed to make it change.
I agree. The ground there has SUCKED almost every single year. It would make me SICK to get that far as to qualify and have to run on crap ground. We have this conversation EVERY year and nothing EVER changes. |
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| Another reason it was probably NOT concrete is the barrel markers. They have to be driven into the ground and pretty deep to stay there all 10 days. If a horse can move enough dirt to get to concrete no way that stake would stay there. |
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Location: Crowder, OK | Are you freaking kidding me???? to those who get on a public place and wanna tell the NFR gals how to ride thier horses and what to do....i think you need your head examined....excuse me...you are NOT there! you DID NOT work your bootie off to get there! you DO NOT know what is going on there! bashing those gals is so distasteful and uncalled for IMO and yes we are all intitled to OUR OWN OPINIONS...so there is mine!
I hope both Carley and Radio are ok, I hope all the horses and gals are ok.....they are all truely champions just to be there and especially to handle those conditions and the conditions and miles it took to get them there!
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Location: Central Texas | Bear - 2015-12-08 9:25 AM
Let's not let this turn in to a cat fight, for a change. How about it?
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Tinkerbell - 2015-12-08 11:41 AM Are you freaking kidding me???? to those who get on a public place and wanna tell the NFR gals how to ride thier horses and what to do....i think you need your head examined....excuse me...you are NOT there! you DID NOT work your bootie off to get there! you DO NOT know what is going on there! bashing those gals is so distasteful and uncalled for IMO and yes we are all intitled to OUR OWN OPINIONS...so there is mine!
I hope both Carley and Radio are ok, I hope all the horses and gals are ok.....they are all truely champions just to be there and especially to handle those conditions and the conditions and miles it took to get them there!
Have some respect people!
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| Griz - 2015-12-08 11:28 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 9:58 AM newracer - 2015-12-08 10:46 AM I think it was right after she ran and before Bo and Taylor ran..did anyone see the ground in the spot they fell? Was that concrete showing? A few people who were there said that it was concrete showing, talk about broken legs waiting to happen there, running full speed and hitting concrete....*shudders*. Can't say I'm surprised really... T&M has always been sketchy ground. I just hope it doesn't take someone getting seriously hurt or killed to make it change. I agree. The ground there has SUCKED almost every single year. It would make me SICK to get that far as to qualify and have to run on crap ground. We have this conversation EVERY year and nothing EVER changes.
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Location: Prosser, WA | Three 4 Luck - 2015-12-08 6:48 AM
WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 8:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-08 8:28 AM I was wanting her on her backup horse, but I didn't want Radio to get hurt. :( I bet she does give him a night off though, I know when I had the accident on the horse in my prof picture and she did the splits like that, she was lame for a few weeks (she got up lame though, and he finished his run pretty well, it'll all depend on how he looks when the adrenaline wears off.) I'd rather be safe than sorry with this good of a horse. I'm sure that Carley will have Radio checked out thoroughly before making any sort of decision on who to run from here on out...
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Location: The Great Midwest | It is concrete under the dirt. I saw pictures on facebook before they brought in the dirt and its solid concrete. Ill try to find them but you know how facebook is, posts seem to vanish if you don't post them to your wall. |
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Location: Missouri | Just a crack champ here...
but I made a run a couple months ago after the girl in front of me fell. Let me tell you, that smashed, shiny spot was TERRIFYING! It looked slick and awful. I'm pretty sure I just closed my eyes and pitched the reins! lol! Thankfully, my horse knew where to put his feet and managed fine.
I agree that the ground looks much better than last year. I also don't think the bad/slick areas seem consistent... as if they are working on it???
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | It wouldn't surprise me if it was concrete. I remember one year, I think it was Sherry Cervi, had some sparks fly when she ran through a bad spot. That ground is a problem every year. You'd think they could come up with some kinda fix.
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| Willow55 - 2015-12-08 10:40 AM
It is concrete under the dirt. I saw pictures on facebook before they brought in the dirt and its solid concrete. Ill try to find them but you know how facebook is, posts seem to vanish if you don't post them to your wall.
Nobody is denying that the floor is concrete. Of course it is, they put flooring over it to play basketball on. The issue is, when the horse fell did all the dirt move and actually expose the concrete. |
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Location: Kentucky | I always get so confused. Whenever the NFR comes around, there are threads about the girls and their horses. We are interested in them, we want to talk about the event, the horses, everything. But someone ALWAYS has to say that there is "bashing". No, there's not. If discussing an NFR rider and horse is bashing then count me in. I like discussing the events and hearing other's opinions. These gals represent all of us barrel racers and it's so interesting!
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| If you don't like what someone has written, ignore it so it'll go away! Getting in a cat fight to prove yourself correct or someone else wrong is annoying! Say what you have to say about the subject, in this case: Carley and Radio, and keep it movin! Nothing worse than having to read 2 pages of your wrong, no your wrong, I didn't say that, yes you did, you don't know anything, your immature, your jealous, your horse is fat, yours looks like a mule, everybody is picking on me........... GOOD GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!! |
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| From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride.
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Location: California | newracer - 2015-12-08 7:46 AM I think it was right after she ran and before Bo and Taylor ran..did anyone see the ground in the spot they fell? Was that concrete showing?
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| I am not certain if what I am about to type is true... so *** I think I recall Charmayne James one year volunteered to do the ground at the NFR and she was refused... Clearly the WPRA needs to really step up and start voicing their concerns in public and put the pressure on the PRCA to care enough to do something. The "invited guest" went out with the Lawsuit that the WPRA won a few years back and the PRCA owing them millions if not allowing them back in. We are equal partners and the second most popular event in rodeo... it's time someone stood up and got vocal about this, really vocal! It's a safety issue for horse and rider! |
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Location: Kansas | MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride.
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Location: That part of Texas | Video from last year showing how the arena is retrofitted for the rodeo:
https://youtu.be/GCTkbClxIlk
Looks like everything is placed on the concrete with lots of dirt brought in. It's the same process I've seen for our local venues who do this stuff (Amarillo transforms a hockey rink to an arena for the World Champion Ranch Rodeo every year about the same way).
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Location: Somewhere around here | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM
MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride.
not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes?
Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes?
It isn't "behind the scenes" or "secret" information. I have friends running there, and friends that have trained a horse that is running there, and a friend that has a daughter that is going to make a run to be there next year, and friends that are good friends with girls running that happened to take a bad spill there last night. We all keep up with eacheother on Facebook, many of their posts are set to "friends only" but its public none the less. There are a couple girls running that I talk to here and there. I compete with Carley's sister and consider Kaily a friend (none of which this info came from), I have known Jana since I was like 5 years old (none of which this info came from), We all have friends or friends of friends that are competing...social media is public...
To be clear, I have not been to the NFR or "helped" the girls at the NFR...I just have friends, as do we all, that are there, are trainers that have trained horses that are there, are breeders of the horses that are there, there is NOTHING special about me. Just relaying info from 'someone in the know' that has made a public post on FB...if you were a mutual friend you would have seen it too.
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Location: That part of Texas | caspersabelpip - 2015-12-08 2:12 PM Wow I just wanted to know if Radio was ok. I wasn't trying to cause problems
Your question was valid and in case you missed the answer, it looks like he is going to be okay. I asked a friend of mine this morning who has been with Carley in Vegas if he was okay and she said yes -- got it straight from someone in the actual know that Radio is going to be okay. MOTIVATED has posted as much and has actually put a PM in to Carley to verify because there are people who do want to know and it's natural and nice to know people care.
The other stuff . . . well that's BHW for you sometimes. Don't let it bother you. 
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| cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM
hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM
MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride.
not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes?
Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally?
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Location: Kansas | cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally?
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| streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny.
Sean Davis manages the dirt and it is kept in storage and recycled every year. That is not an uncommon thing....obviously I do not know the age of the dirt haha I was 'joking' when I said it was 30 years old...what I meant and I should have clarified apparently, is that the dirt is recycled from year to year... and has been for years and years and years and years and years and years.
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streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny.
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Location: Bama | kk65 - 2015-12-08 10:48 AM
I think all the girls should agree to high-lope through the pattern tonight as a joint protest to the ground conditions!
THIS is what I was thinking along the lines of. It's obvious the ground conditions suck. I am not there and do not know enough about this place or what it takes to get there, BUT if the ground is always this bad, how come these girls just don't refuse to run or attend? IF they ALL refused, they'd have to fix it right? Or am I just living in my own little ignorant dream world? 
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Location: That part of Texas | Murphy - 2015-12-08 2:38 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 3:34 PM streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny. Exactly. Dirt for North American Rodeo and KY State Fair are decades old. It's stored not far from the fairgrounds.
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| Red Raider - 2015-12-08 2:43 PM Murphy - 2015-12-08 2:38 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 3:34 PM streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny. Exactly. Dirt for North American Rodeo and KY State Fair are decades old. It's stored not far from the fairgrounds.
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | FLITASTIC - 2015-12-08 9:26 AM Cause the WPRA is INVITED to be there. The PRCA does not have to allow a barrel race at THEIR NFR. If the WPRA stood up against them then they would simply be told to put their own on.
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Location: 'Hawk Country | Firewater - 2015-12-08 1:50 PM I am not certain if what I am about to type is true... so *** I think I recall Charmayne James one year volunteered to do the ground at the NFR and she was refused... Clearly the WPRA needs to really step up and start voicing their concerns in public and put the pressure on the PRCA to care enough to do something. The "invited guest" went out with the Lawsuit that the WPRA won a few years back and the PRCA owing them millions if not allowing them back in. We are equal partners and the second most popular event in rodeo... it's time someone stood up and got vocal about this, really vocal! It's a safety issue for horse and rider!
The PRCA isn't in charge of the ground.
The WPRA has been in contact with the producer all year. There were people who came to the WPRA offering new ground, tractor and arena tool for free. They did not want paid or recognition. They asked that the WPRA take this proposal to the producer. The WPRA did and it was turned down. |
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| MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 2:34 PM streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny.
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| Whiteboy - 2015-12-08 3:05 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 2:34 PM streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny.
Las Vegas Events hired Shawn Davis as producer of NFR. He has the final say in everything.
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Location: Roping pen | I lead a team that has a 2 day show with over 500 runs. Dirt condition is a battle. As one mentioned, what is good for one event is not good for another.
The one's that challenge the condition of the arena are typically the one's that seldom offer to help or put it on.
We cater more to the barrel races just to avoid the chatter. But the rough stock contractors are typically not happy... And I hate to say it, the rough stock events sell more tickets than the barrel racers. So we are probably shooting ourselves in the foot..
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Location: 'Hawk Country | ThreeCorners - 2015-12-08 3:07 PM They turn the ground offer's down because the best ground for barrel racing is not necessarily the best ground for bucking stock nor ropers. Or at least as the old timers believe.
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MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 10:34 AM I wrote Carley earlier. I havent heard back. I'm sure she is much too busy right now. I can assure you that IF Carley runs him tonight it wont be out of greed by any standards...it will have meant that she TRUELY believes him to be sound and OK. I doubt very much that she runs him...but I know how much she loves that horse and can assure you that she is confident in Boy enough to jump on him if she things that Radio is not 100%. Boy is no slacker for a backup horse...both are very capable.
I love reading your posts but I am a hundred years old and your script is really hard to read. Sorry i m probably the only one but I have to skip you a lot because I can't read it. Is there anyway you could change it or make it bigger??
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| HorseMommyFiveO - 2015-12-08 4:00 PM doglady - 2015-12-08 10:37 AM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 10:34 AM I wrote Carley earlier. I havent heard back. I'm sure she is much too busy right now. I can assure you that IF Carley runs him tonight it wont be out of greed by any standards...it will have meant that she TRUELY believes him to be sound and OK. I doubt very much that she runs him...but I know how much she loves that horse and can assure you that she is confident in Boy enough to jump on him if she things that Radio is not 100%. Boy is no slacker for a backup horse...both are very capable. I love reading your posts but I am a hundred years old and your script is really hard to read. Sorry i m probably the only one but I have to skip you a lot because I can't read it. Is there anyway you could change it or make it bigger?? I'm not 100 years old but I can't read it either. :- )
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 2:34 PM streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny.
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 4:07 PM This is what it looks like
So you see it how I see it...but do they see it differently? I am so confused haha. Not that it really matters, I never really say anything super intelligent haha, they aren't missing much. |
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ETA: Oh, forget it. I can't post the screen shot from my phone.
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| heidiinaz - 2015-12-08 4:18 PM I remember Brittnay Pozzi saying s few years back that it's been the same dirt for 20 plus years. I'm not a dirt expert but would it be very expensive to have the dirt changed out every year?
I guess they had the NFR dirt tested...and it didn't pass the test but he wont change it.
YES...I am saying that not only is the ground older than dirt, but apparently senile (sp?) too.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 4:27 PM heidiinaz - 2015-12-08 4:18 PM I remember Brittnay Pozzi saying s few years back that it's been the same dirt for 20 plus years. I'm not a dirt expert but would it be very expensive to have the dirt changed out every year?
I guess they had the NFR dirt tested...and it didn't pass the test but he wont change it.
YES...I am saying that not only is the ground older than dirt, but apparently senile (sp?) too.
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2015-12-08 4:25 PM
Motivated, comic sans shows up as a hard to read font on some devices. Like a phone, for example.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-08 4:29 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 4:27 PM heidiinaz - 2015-12-08 4:18 PM I remember Brittnay Pozzi saying s few years back that it's been the same dirt for 20 plus years. I'm not a dirt expert but would it be very expensive to have the dirt changed out every year?
I guess they had the NFR dirt tested...and it didn't pass the test but he wont change it.
YES...I am saying that not only is the ground older than dirt, but apparently senile (sp?) too.
Well...this is copy and pasted because I am not a dirt expert...but there is another conversation going on...regarding the ground and the 'ground test' whatever that consists of.
The more the soil is worked, (hauled, spread, raked, etc.) the actual granules of dirt or smaller rocks break down into a fine sand that becomes less cohesive. The ruts you see is a result of that breakdown of the soil. They either need to replace the soil with a better gradation or add small rocks to make it more cohesive. Basically its like a sugar bowl. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 4:34 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-08 4:29 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 4:27 PM heidiinaz - 2015-12-08 4:18 PM I remember Brittnay Pozzi saying s few years back that it's been the same dirt for 20 plus years. I'm not a dirt expert but would it be very expensive to have the dirt changed out every year?
I guess they had the NFR dirt tested...and it didn't pass the test but he wont change it.
YES...I am saying that not only is the ground older than dirt, but apparently senile (sp?) too.
The more the soil is worked, (hauled, spread, raked, etc.) the actual granules of dirt or smaller rocks break down into a fine sand that becomes less cohesive. The ruts you see is a result of that breakdown of the soil. They either need to replace the soil with a better gradation or add small rocks to make it more cohesive. Basically its like a sugar bowl.
Thank you for that answer, but I thought dirt was just good old dirt, lol..
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| So, this letter was sent to the Commissioner who I believe presented it to this Sean Davis guy...who turned down the offer.
Group Members - Please take a moment to read this letter. I hope everyone can pull it up. It's important!!!!!! This is a copy of the letter that was sent to ALL of the NFRC committee members. This letter was provided to all of the top 15 girls attending the NFR by the WPRA. The WPRA President specifically met with the NFRC committee in Colorado Springs about this offer and the ground conditions at the NFR this fall. The ground conditions at the NFR lays squarely on one set of shoulders because he has been given the power to say yes or no by the committee. He said NO to any new ground, he said no to any new implements. This is the time to stand together. We are at a critical time with the future of our sport. The equine athletes, contestants, and livestock at the NFR (and every rodeo for that matter) deserve better than someone who is more concerned about how the ground looks on tv than how safe it is for the people that work all year long to compete there.
Mr. Karl Stressman
PRCA Commissioner, NFRC Chairman
101 Pro Rodeo Drive
Colorado Springs, CO 80901
September 10, 2015
Re: Wrangler National Finals Rodeo Donation
Dear Mr. Stressman,
The purpose of this letter is to present Las Vegas Events with the timely and much-needed
opportunity to take an exciting and well-orchestrated event and create a world class production
for the sport of rodeo. This is being made possible by the very generous donation which will
require no publicity and will have “no strings attached”. Last year and in previous years, it was
evident that the arena ground failed to meet the higher standards expected by the caliber of
livestock and contestants performing during the ten day “Super Bowl” of professional rodeo.
This immediate need for ground improvement is a top priority issue and I ask you to PLEASE
give it your highest consideration – it will be a “win-win” step in the right direction for the
Wrangler National Finals Rodeo and will result in a much more positive atmosphere and safer
environment for all concerned.
With today’s technology and much improved arena implements readily available, why put the
livestock that is so valuable to contestants and stock contractors alike, at risk for injury?
At this time, I have proven soil (used the last three years at Spanish Fork, UT), a Black Widow
implement and a farm tractor available by donation if the WNFR personnel so choose to utilize
them. The soil and the Black Widow can remain there permanently if they meet the criteria,
however, the tractor would need to be returned at the conclusion of the WNFR. Again, this is
at NO cost and personnel would be available to educate any staff member if necessary. The
stature of the WNFR is so highly regarded across the United States that by adding proven
ground will only encourage other rodeos to follow your lead.
The ability of the livestock to perform at their highest level of potential would be greatly
enhanced by adding 1/3 to 1/2 of the new soil to the existing soil consistency. I am suggesting
that this proven, simple and cost-free process would insure that the proper footing foundation
would be in place, thus greatly reducing the injury factor to both animal and contestants.
Rodeo is always being critiqued by its current and future sponsors, audiences and contestants
– it must conform to today’s higher standards of safety and well-being for both the stock and
the performers. Please carefully consider the improved and high-tech arenas in which our
other athletes perform in today’s highly competitive sports world. Rodeo must make every
attempt to follow this lead, especially when this type of generous offer is on the table. It would
be a great asset for all concerned to be able to claim that the ground is always in top condition
– giving each contestant a safe and equal opportunity to showcase their skills.
I was raised on a ranch and it was instilled in me at a young age to always take the best care of
the stock and they would in turn take care of you. I still believe strongly in that philosophy
today. If we take the appropriate measures in providing the best for our equine and bovine
partners, it will close the door on the animal activists. If we choose to ignore this scenario, the
door will always remain open for conflict with these groups. Let’s just close the door!
These stock contractors and contestants have put in countless hours of hard work and
dedication, not to mention the monetary costs, to get to the grand stage of the NFR and they
deserve only the best for their efforts. Let their full potential shine in the spotlight and may the
best person/animal win on the grandest stage of rodeo.
If you or anyone else would like to discuss this donation, please feel to contact me anytime.
Kindest regards
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| Now you know about as much as I know.....This is copy and pasted because I couldnt get the screen shots to upload. From someone who is a former NFR qualifier and her friend who rodeos full time. Public post on FB, but many wont see because you would have to be friends...leaving names out of it for privacy.
there was a very generous offer on the table & Shawn declined this offer. There were multiple soil tests conducted @ different labs that came to the same conclusion -- insufficient ground for rodeo & barrel racing. Unfortunately no-one works with Shawn. The powers that be have made every effort possible to see the ground is at it's best for the WPRA. Shawn rules the WNFR & nothing will change under his leadership.
I hardly ever post and there is a reason for that!! Lol. However, I feel this issue is important enough to rattle some cages. Few things are more important than Tally. Additional post on ground issues at the NFR: wpra and prca apparently have done all they can. Las Vegas Events hired Shawn Davis as producer of NFR. He has the final say in everything. He owns the ground and is paid dearly for it. He was presented with a letter from some individuals saying the ground was unsafe and that they would provide new dirt and equipment given permission to do so to benefit all of the contestants. Free!!!! He said no. His dirt is 30 years old and worn out. It has been actually tested and didn't pass. Apparently the top 15 were provided copies of this letter in case anyone thinks I'm delusional. So, all of you out there at the finals, if you see Shawn Davis, feel free to unload on him.
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Location: Where it isn’t cold! | IRunOnFaith - 2015-12-08 3:07 PM
Why decline that good of an offer?? Wow.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Shorty 2 - 2015-12-08 5:10 PM IRunOnFaith - 2015-12-08 3:07 PM Why decline that good of an offer?? Wow. I could be wrong, but most likely because he wouldn't get paid for it and it's my understanding he gets paid pretty well for " his " dirt.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | IRunOnFaith - 2015-12-08 5:39 PM Where is the story? Not sure where to comment.
It is now about 6 stories down....showing him with a plaque.....
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| Well she must have thought he was fine since she ran him tonight. At Reno in 2014 he turned the first barrel in the Finals and then pretty much came out of the arena 3 legged. If you have been to Reno you know their ground can get hard and treacherous. Looked like her summer was over, but then he ended up winning $20K later that week. |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 3:58 PM All I could think last night was that we should strap the Mayor of Las Vegas onto the back of one of them suckers and see if he still think Shawn Davis is doing such an amazing job! The mayor of Las Vegas is Oscar Gooodman's wife. Are you sure you want to mess with the mob like that?? rofl.
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Location: MD | willrodeo4food - 2015-12-08 11:42 PM
WrapSnap - 2015-12-08 3:58 PM All I could think last night was that we should strap the Mayor of Las Vegas onto the back of one of them suckers and see if he still think Shawn Davis is doing such an amazing job! The mayor of Las Vegas is Oscar Gooodman's wife. Are you sure you want to mess with the mob like that?? rofl.
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Why is this thread so wide on the screen? Who broke the internet on here? LOL
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Just to stay on topic.... (through a friend) Carley's mom said both of them are okay. PRAISE GOD.
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| 3 To Go - 2015-12-08 11:16 PM Well she must have thought he was fine since she ran him tonight. At Reno in 2014 he turned the first barrel in the Finals and then pretty much came out of the arena 3 legged. If you have been to Reno you know their ground can get hard and treacherous. Looked like her summer was over, but then he ended up winning $20K later that week.
He is super tough, I think he probably just had a stinger...like when you jump out of a truck wrong LOL or you jam a joint for a second...and then its better. He looked okay...I know she had him checked out and wouldn't have run him otherwise. Nice to see him ok...he is a winner for sure. |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-12-09 10:50 AM What is the story with her other horse? Is he not as good in small pens or what?
She pretty much made a lot of her money this year in the bigger outdoor pens...the other horse (Boy, sp?)is really nice too. I wouldnt say either of them are really indoor pen horses to be honest. They are better than mine though haha...She really felt like Radio was the reason she made the finals. After the second round she said that she knew there were people that were really wanting to see Boy in that pen...and that he would probably get his chance at it...but that Radio tends to get better run after run and to be paitient because "Radio deserves this"....that is more or less a direct quote lol
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| Carley is giving Radio the night off....much deserved. She will be running Boy who is very capable. GO BOY!
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| streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM
cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM
hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM
MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride.
not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes?
Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally?
How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny.
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| Murphy - 2015-12-08 2:38 PM
MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 3:34 PM
streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny.
Exactly. Dirt for North American Rodeo and KY State Fair are decades old. It's stored not far from the fairgrounds.
OKC Fairgrounds has a huge covered area where it stores the dirt for the coliseum. Before they built the "barn" for the dirt they almost lost the NRHA futurity. It had rained for several weeks before the futurity and there was no dry dirt anywhere. The fairgrounds agreed to build a barn for the dirt after the debacle to keep the NRHA in OKC. |
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