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jvolk1010
Reg. Nov 2015
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Just curious if anyone knows why Sherri isn't riding Stingray. Is she hurt?
I hope she is okay! She is one of my favorites!!

Thanks!
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I believe its because Stingray just wasn't clocking very well compared to the others. Running great patterns, yet was 14s, and a 14 isn't going to win much in Vegas (except last night, LOTS of knocked barrels and bad ground led to only the three 13s).
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Maybe it's her way of saying "the ground is too dangerous and I can't chance it." Sort of a subtle show of protest.
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Bear - 2015-12-10 9:57 AM

Maybe it's her way of saying "the ground is too dangerous and I can't chance it." Sort of a subtle show of protest.

I didn't see Stingray have any major troubles with the ground though, she looks like she runs the best pattern ever and just can't shut the clock off. I actually haven't noticed Sherry having any major issues with the ground this year.
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jvolk1010
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I noticed that too. Great patterns- just wasn't clocking which is very unlike her! I hope everything is well with her and wish Sherri the best! I hope she can place and get a little money at least in the last few rounds!
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It was very saddening to see that Stingray just wasn't clocking. Such a phenomenal horse.
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FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-10 9:06 AM
Bear - 2015-12-10 9:57 AM Maybe it's her way of saying "the ground is too dangerous and I can't chance it." Sort of a subtle show of protest.
I didn't see Stingray have any major troubles with the ground though, she looks like she runs the best pattern ever and just can't shut the clock off. I actually haven't noticed Sherry having any major issues with the ground this year.

 I think she is not firing as hard due to the ground, not necessarily stumbling or falling.   Stingray had a bad fall there last year or maybe the year before.  
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My guess is that she doesn't see herself having a shot at it this year and is giving the new ride some experience at the mac. 
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rodeomom3 - 2015-12-10 10:12 AM

FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-10 9:06 AM
Bear - 2015-12-10 9:57 AM Maybe it's her way of saying "the ground is too dangerous and I can't chance it." Sort of a subtle show of protest.
I didn't see Stingray have any major troubles with the ground though, she looks like she runs the best pattern ever and just can't shut the clock off. I actually haven't noticed Sherry having any major issues with the ground this year.

 I think she is not firing as hard due to the ground, not necessarily stumbling or falling.   Stingray had a bad fall there last year or maybe the year before.  

Yes I remember that, I think it was 2013, when she went on to win world. That makes sense.
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Posted 2015-12-10 10:21 AM
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FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-10 9:13 AM
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FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-10 9:06 AM
Bear - 2015-12-10 9:57 AM Maybe it's her way of saying "the ground is too dangerous and I can't chance it." Sort of a subtle show of protest.
I didn't see Stingray have any major troubles with the ground though, she looks like she runs the best pattern ever and just can't shut the clock off. I actually haven't noticed Sherry having any major issues with the ground this year.
 I think she is not firing as hard due to the ground, not necessarily stumbling or falling.   Stingray had a bad fall there last year or maybe the year before.  
Yes I remember that, I think it was 2013, when she went on to win world. That makes sense.

Stingray's bad fall at the 2nd was in 2012 in the 6th round. I believe they were sitting first in the average at the time, and that obviously took them out of it with Sherry coming off.
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Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2015-12-10 11:24 AM
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Probably put her up so she doesn't cripple herself on that ice skating rink of an arena.. Not worth the risk
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Reg. Dec 2013
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Stingray did extremely well the following year (2013) after the one where she fell, so I don't think that would be a huge cause for her to be safety-ing up this year. I did notice that last years NFR (2014) wasn't quite as successful as she has had in years past either. It's hard to say what is going on, she is a great horse though! Her and Louie sure deserve the award for most consistent!
I just really want Sherry to win a check this round! I think she would have last night if the horse didn't go as wide on the first, that ground looked sketchy, so I'm really hoping she pulls it off tonight!
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Posted 2015-12-10 11:35 AM
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Reg. Feb 2012
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Stingray is not a spring chicken. She didn't clock super well last year though she was clean. She was running just as clean this year and just not clocking. I'm not saying this is why, as we can only surmise unless someone knows Sherri personally. I think the horse she's been riding belongs to Dena Kirkpatrick the announcers said too, so not her horse. I'm not sure that she is just riding him to give him experience since she doesn't own him.
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-12-10 11:45 AM
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I wonder where George went?  I fell in love with that horse. 
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My wild guess on Sherri, first last year she was newly married and happy :)  I kind of wish she had stayed on Stingray because she usually gets a little faster and about the time I thought she would clock, she changed horses.  So I guessing she knows she is out of a shot at the title and is running more for fun.  She has won everything.  
Also, I didn't think Stingray was very old, maybe wrong?  I was thinking 10ish?  Maybe not. 

 
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FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-10 9:13 AM
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FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-12-10 9:06 AM
Bear - 2015-12-10 9:57 AM Maybe it's her way of saying "the ground is too dangerous and I can't chance it." Sort of a subtle show of protest.
I didn't see Stingray have any major troubles with the ground though, she looks like she runs the best pattern ever and just can't shut the clock off. I actually haven't noticed Sherry having any major issues with the ground this year.
 I think she is not firing as hard due to the ground, not necessarily stumbling or falling.   Stingray had a bad fall there last year or maybe the year before.  
Yes I remember that, I think it was 2013, when she went on to win world. That makes sense.

Stingray's bad fall at the 2nd was in 2012 in the 6th round. I believe they were sitting first in the average at the time, and that obviously took them out of it with Sherry coming off.

opps, yes, 2012 sounds better. Can't believe its been that long already.
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Swannranch - 2015-12-10 1:15 PM

My wild guess on Sherri, first last year she was newly married and happy :)  I kind of wish she had stayed on Stingray because she usually gets a little faster and about the time I thought she would clock, she changed horses.  So I guessing she knows she is out of a shot at the title and is running more for fun.  She has won everything.  
Also, I didn't think Stingray was very old, maybe wrong?  I was thinking 10ish?  Maybe not. 

 

She's about to be 14, 2002 foal
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-12-10 12:22 PM
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Swannranch - 2015-12-10 12:15 PM My wild guess on Sherri, first last year she was newly married and happy :)  I kind of wish she had stayed on Stingray because she usually gets a little faster and about the time I thought she would clock, she changed horses.  So I guessing she knows she is out of a shot at the title and is running more for fun.  She has won everything.  
Also, I didn't think Stingray was very old, maybe wrong?  I was thinking 10ish?  Maybe not. 

 
Stingray is 13, which is prime age for a horse of her caliber. Rare Dillon is 16.  My guess is she wasnt clocking and as a result Sherri probably just decided to give her some rest. 

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Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-12-10 12:28 PM
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I feel terrible for Sherry. She is such a great horse woman. I love love love Stingray and I hope she's alright. I also noticed towards the end last year she had quite clocking as nice.
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Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2015-12-10 12:32 PM
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Swannranch - 2015-12-10 12:15 PM My wild guess on Sherri, first last year she was newly married and happy :)  I kind of wish she had stayed on Stingray because she usually gets a little faster and about the time I thought she would clock, she changed horses.  So I guessing she knows she is out of a shot at the title and is running more for fun.  She has won everything.  

Also, I didn't think Stingray was very old, maybe wrong?  I was thinking 10ish?  Maybe not. 


 

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Reg. Oct 2015
Posted 2015-12-10 1:05 PM
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It's merely speculation, but I just feel like Stingray wasn't clocking. Each go she appeared so smooth and nearly flawless, she just wasn't cutting the timer off as quickly as some of the other girls.
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Posted 2015-12-10 1:14 PM
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I do remember Sherri saying one year in an interview that Stingray knows its a long rodeo and she usually gets faster each round because she knows not to burn herself out. Maybe she will pull her back out for the final three.
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Posted 2015-12-10 1:35 PM
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Stingray hasn't really been clocking well for a while.  Maybe she's a little burned out?  I remember Sherri first running her at the Thomas and Mack as a 6 year old. I don't think she's not running her because of the ground.  BTW every year the ground is an issue at the NFR.  It's all apart of Rodeo.  All these girls run all year on Rodeo ground.  Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad.  It's all apart of the sport.  Do I think they should more time and thought into the gorund there?  Yes, most definitely!!!  But it's part of the sport!! Same as having crappy steers.   
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merdth6 - 2015-12-10 1:35 PM Stingray hasn't really been clocking well for a while.  Maybe she's a little burned out?  I remember Sherri first running her at the Thomas and Mack as a 6 year old. I don't think she's not running her because of the ground.  BTW every year the ground is an issue at the NFR.  It's all apart of Rodeo.  All these girls run all year on Rodeo ground.  Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad.  It's all apart of the sport.  Do I think they should more time and thought into the gorund there?  Yes, most definitely!!!  But it's part of the sport!! Same as having crappy steers.   

 Stingray has been clocking well enough to get to the NFR.  Sherry didn't just pull her out of the barn for the big show.

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Stingray has been clocking and had been consistent!! Sherry's other horse/horses have not put down the runs that Stingray has. I miss seeing Stingray............she is my favorite.
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Reg. Dec 2006
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all those years on rodeo ground she is starting to get worn out, stifles, hocks, si,suspensories.
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daisycake123 - 2015-12-10 6:42 PM all those years on rodeo ground she is starting to get worn out, stifles, hocks, si,suspensories.

 ummm HUH???
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daisycake123 - 2015-12-10 6:42 PM all those years on rodeo ground she is starting to get worn out, stifles, hocks, si,suspensories.

  At this point, Stingray is more valuible as a embryo transfer mare/broodmare. HOWEVER, I would love to see Sherry keep running her at the NFR. I can completely understand a rider wanting to run some younger horses. I just miss see Sherry on Stingray.
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There are not a faster set of legs than Stingray's at the NFR. That girl can sure enough move her feet.  She doesn't cover as much ground as some with a bit shorter stride, but she is one scrappy little hustler.  She is fun to watch for sure!   
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sodapop - 2015-12-10 8:36 PM

There are not a faster set of legs than Stingray's at the NFR. That girl can sure enough move her feet.  She doesn't cover as much ground as some with a bit shorter stride, but she is one scrappy little hustler.  She is fun to watch for sure!   

 I've always been a fan, way back to the troubles days. I loved seeing hawk too. I have a soft spot for the shorties.
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daisycake123 - 2015-12-10 6:42 PM all those years on rodeo ground she is starting to get worn out, stifles, hocks, si,suspensories.

Good luck with that fancy analysis.  

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RidenFly - 2015-12-11 9:45 AM

I wonder where George went?  I fell in love with that horse. 

I believe I read somewhere that George couldn't handle the rodeo road physically (?) and he is being used as a jackpot horse or a rope horse now.
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I was hoping to see her run Atlas Peak or Del Ray
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 I just got home from the NFR yesterday and we went to rounds 4 & 7. I was so disappointed not to be able to see Stingray run. However I did get to see some awesome runs by other great horses!! I will say this I was very disappointed in the ground. You know it's bad when Chase Cervi's pickup horse falls down when he was chasing after Will Lowe in the 7th round. I rewatched it on tv and they didn't show it. But if you watch it when they are chasing after Will you can hear the crowd gasp. Chase was riding his black horse. Luckily they got up and were fine. Just wait till one of the rough stock horses or bulls falls and breaks something then maybe they will do something with the ground.
BTW: the rodeo was AWESOME spend the money and go at least once. We had only planned on going to one perf but loved it so much we bought another round tickets.

 
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I don't know, watching Stingray run last night she seemed very sore on her front end. You don't hardly see Stingray come into the barrels bouncing on her front end. The T&M ground she just isn't liking. Past years she has gotten faster with every round, these past two years at the NFR Stingray just isn't clocking here anymore. :( JMO!!
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Everyone's guessing......is it just because of the ground? Is it because she's worn out? Is it because her stifles, suspensories, and hocks are sore? The only person who might know is Sherri, and even she might not be certain. Time will tell. I don't feel so bad for Sherri. She's been around the block a time or two. If she so desires, she'll be back, whether it's on Stingray or another horse.
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Has nothing to do with the NFR, but every year in AZ I have the pleasure to talk with Stingray when she is tied to the trailer at the big Buckeye races.. She is always there with the young colts and is a sweetheart. I just give her some pats and tell her to keep up the good work..:)
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I find it funny how no one can spell "Sherry's" name correctly lol!
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I for one think Stingray is fine, I think that she isn't shutting down the clock, but she isn't as long strided as some of the horses....the ground isn't great, but some of the horses there at the finals are flat out RUNNERS, I mean like super fast...they could make a lot of the elite horses running right now look "off"
...We just got a tough bunch of horses in there this year between Sara's horse and Taylor's horse, they are like freaks as far as how quick they are building up speed between the barrels and on the way home they might as well be race horses they are so fast.
I think that Stingray is fine...I just dont think that she is as FAST as those horses are as far as them having the ability to make bobbles and still clock on bad ground. Stingray has been there and done that...she isnt a reckless runner/turner and I dont think that she has the speed that those particular horses happen to have...and that is ok...doesnt mean she is hurt, or tired, or worn out....just means she is running against a couple freaks of nature right now who are making a lot of the field look slower than we would expect. 


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CYA Ranch - 2015-12-11 7:39 AM I think I read that Atlas Peak had colic surgery???  Or am I dreaming that?



 

Yeah, I read something about him having colic in one of the Barrel Racing Reports.  
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MOTIVATED - 2015-12-11 10:02 AM I for one think Stingray is fine, I think that she isn't shutting down the clock, but she isn't as long strided as some of the horses....the ground isn't great, but some of the horses there at the finals are flat out RUNNERS, I mean like super fast...they could make a lot of the elite horses running right now look "off"

...We just got a tough bunch of horses in there this year between Sara's horse and Taylor's horse, they are like freaks as far as how quick they are building up speed between the barrels and on the way home they might as well be race horses they are so fast.

I think that Stingray is fine...I just dont think that she is as FAST as those horses are as far as them having the ability to make bobbles and still clock on bad ground. Stingray has been there and done that...she isnt a reckless runner/turner and I dont think that she has the speed that those particular horses happen to have...and that is ok...doesnt mean she is hurt, or tired, or worn out....just means she is running against a couple freaks of nature right now who are making a lot of the field look slower than we would expect. 

 But she's been consistently faster in the past.  It's not that she can't run 13s, she just isn't for whatever reason. 
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CYA Ranch - 2015-12-11 7:39 AM

I think I read that Atlas Peak had colic surgery???  Or am I dreaming that?

 

You are correct, he did have colic surgery.
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MOTIVATED - 2015-12-11 10:02 AM

I for one think Stingray is fine, I think that she isn't shutting down the clock, but she isn't as long strided as some of the horses....the ground isn't great, but some of the horses there at the finals are flat out RUNNERS, I mean like super fast...they could make a lot of the elite horses running right now look "off"
...We just got a tough bunch of horses in there this year between Sara's horse and Taylor's horse, they are like freaks as far as how quick they are building up speed between the barrels and on the way home they might as well be race horses they are so fast.
I think that Stingray is fine...I just dont think that she is as FAST as those horses are as far as them having the ability to make bobbles and still clock on bad ground. Stingray has been there and done that...she isnt a reckless runner/turner and I dont think that she has the speed that those particular horses happen to have...and that is ok...doesnt mean she is hurt, or tired, or worn out....just means she is running against a couple freaks of nature right now who are making a lot of the field look slower than we would expect. 

 Say whaaat? Stingray won the Ellensburg, WA rodeo where it's a 17 sec pattern. If she's not as fast in her turns or between the barrels how is she beating big "runners" that still have just as nice of patterns in big Sandy pens?
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Stingray held the arena record before Taylor Jacobs broke it. She is striding short for some reason. She has clocked in that arena in the past faster than any horse has run yet this year.
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MOTIVATED - 2015-12-11 10:02 AM

I for one think Stingray is fine, I think that she isn't shutting down the clock, but she isn't as long strided as some of the horses....the ground isn't great, but some of the horses there at the finals are flat out RUNNERS, I mean like super fast...they could make a lot of the elite horses running right now look "off"
...We just got a tough bunch of horses in there this year between Sara's horse and Taylor's horse, they are like freaks as far as how quick they are building up speed between the barrels and on the way home they might as well be race horses they are so fast.
I think that Stingray is fine...I just dont think that she is as FAST as those horses are as far as them having the ability to make bobbles and still clock on bad ground. Stingray has been there and done that...she isnt a reckless runner/turner and I dont think that she has the speed that those particular horses happen to have...and that is ok...doesnt mean she is hurt, or tired, or worn out....just means she is running against a couple freaks of nature right now who are making a lot of the field look slower than we would expect. 

 Say whaaat? Stingray won the Ellensburg, WA rodeo where it's a 17 sec pattern. If she's not as fast in her turns or between the barrels how is she beating big "runners" that still have just as nice of patterns in big Sandy pens?

I think what Motivated is saying is, she isnt necessarily pushing herself to the limits on ground she isnt feeling safe on. Babyflo for example is running hard and going for broke and shes taking quite a few slips in the process. Stingray is being safe and she still clocking very respectable. Some barrel horses are faster than others just flat our speed wise... Stingray is no doubt fast but her times come from her precision and lack of mistakes.

I ran a mare like that who would get beat bad in a straight away but was consistent 1D (won Congress and AQHA world) because she didnt make mistakes... Stingray is being smart.
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MOTIVATED - 2015-12-11 10:02 AM I for one think Stingray is fine, I think that she isn't shutting down the clock, but she isn't as long strided as some of the horses....the ground isn't great, but some of the horses there at the finals are flat out RUNNERS, I mean like super fast...they could make a lot of the elite horses running right now look "off"

...We just got a tough bunch of horses in there this year between Sara's horse and Taylor's horse, they are like freaks as far as how quick they are building up speed between the barrels and on the way home they might as well be race horses they are so fast.

I think that Stingray is fine...I just dont think that she is as FAST as those horses are as far as them having the ability to make bobbles and still clock on bad ground. Stingray has been there and done that...she isnt a reckless runner/turner and I dont think that she has the speed that those particular horses happen to have...and that is ok...doesnt mean she is hurt, or tired, or worn out....just means she is running against a couple freaks of nature right now who are making a lot of the field look slower than we would expect. 
 Say whaaat? Stingray won the Ellensburg, WA rodeo where it's a 17 sec pattern. If she's not as fast in her turns or between the barrels how is she beating big "runners" that still have just as nice of patterns in big Sandy pens?

I am not saying that she isnt as fast in Ellinsburg Wa LOL I am saying she isnt as fast here...between the barrels and home for whatever reason...and my reasoning is that this pen suits these horses better this year....call it the ground, call it whatever you want...but this years horses are faster than Stingray in this pen...maybe not in every pen everywhere every day of any given year haha....BUT what I am saying is I think she is fine. I dont think she is sore. OR old. or tired or WHATEVER> I just think she is slower than these horses in this pen this year on this ground.
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MOTIVATED - 2015-12-11 11:22 AM

WetSaddleBlankets - 2015-12-11 11:14 AM
MOTIVATED - 2015-12-11 10:02 AM I for one think Stingray is fine, I think that she isn't shutting down the clock, but she isn't as long strided as some of the horses....the ground isn't great, but some of the horses there at the finals are flat out RUNNERS, I mean like super fast...they could make a lot of the elite horses running right now look "off"

...We just got a tough bunch of horses in there this year between Sara's horse and Taylor's horse, they are like freaks as far as how quick they are building up speed between the barrels and on the way home they might as well be race horses they are so fast.

I think that Stingray is fine...I just dont think that she is as FAST as those horses are as far as them having the ability to make bobbles and still clock on bad ground. Stingray has been there and done that...she isnt a reckless runner/turner and I dont think that she has the speed that those particular horses happen to have...and that is ok...doesnt mean she is hurt, or tired, or worn out....just means she is running against a couple freaks of nature right now who are making a lot of the field look slower than we would expect. 
 Say whaaat? Stingray won the Ellensburg, WA rodeo where it's a 17 sec pattern. If she's not as fast in her turns or between the barrels how is she beating big "runners" that still have just as nice of patterns in big Sandy pens?

I am not saying that she isnt as fast in Ellinsburg Wa LOL I am saying she isnt as fast here...between the barrels and home for whatever reason...and my reasoning is that this pen suits these horses better this year....call it the ground, call it whatever you want...but this years horses are faster than Stingray in this pen...maybe not in every pen everywhere every day of any given year haha....BUT what I am saying is I think she is fine. I dont think she is sore. OR old. or tired or WHATEVER> I just think she is slower than these horses in this pen this year on this ground.

 Now I get what you are saying. I honestly think the ground is a huge factor. Make it just a hair looser and a tad deeper stingray would clock with Bo and Bling... she's a smart seasoned horse that knows how to protect her self when needed. The other two have ran steller but too the risk of falling. It's too bad it's here that stingray has to safety up. Yes it's rodeo but man... give the best the opportunity to run their best especially at a place like the NFR.
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My take on it is if you look at the other horses, like Bo, he isn't clocking like he has in the past either. He holds the arena record at a 13.37 but the fastest time he's ran this week is a 13.77. I personally feel the ground is really slowing them down. It's not holding under them & Stingray is making sure she stays standing. I know the ground isn't the greatest any year but the last two years it's been horrible. I feel sorry for the ladies & especially their horses.
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DashNSpeckles - 2015-12-11 12:00 PM

My take on it is if you look at the other horses, like Bo, he isn't clocking like he has in the past either. He holds the arena record at a 13.37 but the fastest time he's ran this week is a 13.77. I personally feel the ground is really slowing them down. It's not holding under them & Stingray is making sure she stays standing. I know the ground isn't the greatest any year but the last two years it's been horrible. I feel sorry for the ladies & especially their horses.

Agree.
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I see her hitting on her front end going into the first barrel. My gelding does the same thing if he doesn't like the ground or is sore. I'm not going to speculate as to why she is doing it, but something is weird there. She never hits on the front end like that. Last night was one of the worst in my opinion. I wish they would prepare the ground so we could see the true ability of the caliber horses that are there.
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One thing I noticed is she didn't look as fit as I'm used to seeing her ..... Maybe just the tv adding "10 " lbs ??? Anyone else think that ? I love that little mare , but yes she's not as snappy or firing as hard as I'm use to seeing her
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Bear - 2015-12-10 8:57 AM Maybe it's her way of saying "the ground is too dangerous and I can't chance it." Sort of a subtle show of protest.

If Sherry was worried about the ground for Stingray, she certainly wouldn't have run her at the bottom of the ground.
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Stitch4k9 - 2015-12-10 5:11 PM
merdth6 - 2015-12-10 1:35 PM Stingray hasn't really been clocking well for a while.  Maybe she's a little burned out?  I remember Sherri first running her at the Thomas and Mack as a 6 year old. I don't think she's not running her because of the ground.  BTW every year the ground is an issue at the NFR.  It's all apart of Rodeo.  All these girls run all year on Rodeo ground.  Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad.  It's all apart of the sport.  Do I think they should more time and thought into the gorund there?  Yes, most definitely!!!  But it's part of the sport!! Same as having crappy steers.   
 Stingray has been clocking well enough to get to the NFR.  Sherry didn't just pull her out of the barn for the big show.



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She ran Trip DuPerier's horse, Atlas that she won San Antonio on, quite a bit this year. He had colic surgery right before the NFR. He probably won more money then she did.
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Nevertooold - 2015-12-11 3:44 PM

Bear - 2015-12-10 8:57 AM Maybe it's her way of saying "the ground is too dangerous and I can't chance it." Sort of a subtle show of protest.

If Sherry was worried about the ground for Stingray, she certainly wouldn't have run her at the bottom of the ground.

Yep. She didn't get to the NFR by only running on perfect ground.
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Bear - 2015-12-10 8:57 AM Maybe it's her way of saying "the ground is too dangerous and I can't chance it." Sort of a subtle show of protest.
If Sherry was worried about the ground for Stingray, she certainly wouldn't have run her at the bottom of the ground.
Yep. She didn't get to the NFR by only running on perfect ground.

My point was...she wouldn't have run her at the bottom of the ground...she would have waited and run her when she was more towards the top.
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Nevertooold - 2015-12-11 4:24 PM

BigStarBound - 2015-12-11 4:00 PM
Nevertooold - 2015-12-11 3:44 PM
Bear - 2015-12-10 8:57 AM Maybe it's her way of saying "the ground is too dangerous and I can't chance it." Sort of a subtle show of protest.
If Sherry was worried about the ground for Stingray, she certainly wouldn't have run her at the bottom of the ground.
Yep. She didn't get to the NFR by only running on perfect ground.

My point was...she wouldn't have run her at the bottom of the ground...she would have waited and run her when she was more towards the top.

I was agreeing with you. I don't believe the ground issue is the reason she chose to jockey another horse.
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Look at us humans. We don't all hit our peak in athletism at the same time in ages. I am sure horses don't either. Some may be at their peaks at early teens and some may hit it in their late teens.
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porky - 2015-12-11 2:36 PM

One thing I noticed is she didn't look as fit as I'm used to seeing her ..... Maybe just the tv adding "10 " lbs ??? Anyone else think that ? I love that little mare , but yes she's not as snappy or firing as hard as I'm use to seeing her

 I thought the same thing.
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