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         Location: Where I am happiest | We bred a mare to fulton's jr stallion by ASOF last year. A Dash Ta Streak. He is and will be promoted correctly, he is in training with Jordon Briggs and will hit the arena soon. I was told he is exceptionally minded and that is evidenced by the video's and pics Jordon has posted of him. James Ranch where they both stand told me he is def. easier then ASOF, AND he is in some incentives and is on the list for FF. Plus he is out of a great DTF daughter that was reserve world BFA champ before she went to Brazil. Plus, the last reason why, is he is the most correct out of all of them. So he was/is the most logical and total package of the ASOF. |
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     Location: Purcell Ok | I have a weanling by A Dash Ta Streak (Fulton's young horse by ASOF), he is without a doubt the most correct colt I've had. He has been so willing and fun, and he is blue roan to boot! |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-12-10 1:05 PM We bred a mare to fulton's jr stallion by ASOF last year. A Dash Ta Streak. He is and will be promoted correctly, he is in training with Jordon Briggs and will hit the arena soon. I was told he is exceptionally minded and that is evidenced by the video's and pics Jordon has posted of him. James Ranch where they both stand told me he is def. easier then ASOF, AND he is in some incentives and is on the list for FF. Plus he is out of a great DTF daughter that was reserve world BFA champ before she went to Brazil. Plus, the last reason why, is he is the most correct out of all of them. So he was/is the most logical and total package of the ASOF.
Thank you!! I cannot believe I didnt remember to list him initially! I do remember reading that he had a better temperment than his sire. |
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I've seen A Dash Ta Streak in person and he is to die for. I really don't think you can go wrong with any of them.
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      Location: Got Lobsta? | Question on SOF...what is problems with his offspring? I see a post say something about temperment? Just asking as I heard some can be a handful but Bling looks awesome and sweet! |
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| Mainer-racer - 2015-12-11 9:48 AM Question on SOF...what is problems with his offspring? I see a post say something about temperment? Just asking as I heard some can be a handful but Bling looks awesome and sweet!
They can be alot of horse for less experienced hands. Some require a bit of chemical assistance to settledown enough to focus. They are high power performance horses, who do a great job in the right hands, but they also can hurts lots of people in the wrong hands. You cannot argue their success in the arena, and I have to give props to those trainers who have been so successful with them! |
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      Location: Okemah,OK | I have a yearling ASOF filly (out of a Pacific Bailey bred mare) that is one of the sweetest and quietest ones we've ever had. She has a head full of sense and has been a dream to handle since day one. Hoping she stays that way as she gets older but I'd take 10 more like her if they all had her temperament! |
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| That's a nice cross. I'm a tad bit jealous. I'm drooling over ASOF. I liked him when he first came around. I like the frenchstreaktarodeo stud too. |
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      Location: Got Lobsta? | Whiteboy - 2015-12-11 11:17 AM Mainer-racer - 2015-12-11 9:48 AM Question on SOF...what is problems with his offspring? I see a post say something about temperment? Just asking as I heard some can be a handful but Bling looks awesome and sweet! They can be alot of horse for less experienced hands. Some require a bit of chemical assistance to settledown enough to focus. They are high power performance horses, who do a great job in the right hands, but they also can hurts lots of people in the wrong hands. You cannot argue their success in the arena, and I have to give props to those trainers who have been so successful with them!
That is what I've heard, so I decided to send my off to an experience trainer to break her out. She is great, really sweet, however he did mention to me that she is a Diva and can get sassy at times. He said SOF can be a handful to break out. Thanks for the info! |
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      Location: California | Can someone tell me why his stud fee is so high? I don't mean to sound offensive, but isn't Dash Ta Fames $5000. . . And again, no offense, his records do not out do DTF. Genuinely curious if anyone knows. |
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      Location: Okemah,OK | *almost there* - 2015-12-11 4:56 PM
Can someone tell me why his stud fee is so high? I don't mean to sound offensive, but isn't Dash Ta Fames $5000. . . And again, no offense, his records do not out do DTF. Genuinely curious if anyone knows.
DTF was 6500 but I think may be 7500 now???? |
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     Location: Desert Land | *almost there* - 2015-12-11 2:56 PM Can someone tell me why his stud fee is so high? I don't mean to sound offensive, but isn't Dash Ta Fames $5000. . . And again, no offense, his records do not out do DTF. Genuinely curious if anyone knows. Dash Ta Fame's stud fee hasn't been 5k for a while.
I just asked Darian Burt and she said it will be $7,500 for 2016.
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      Location: California | TheOldGrayMare - 2015-12-11 3:17 PM
*almost there* - 2015-12-11 2:56 PM Can someone tell me why his stud fee is so high? I don't mean to sound offensive, but isn't Dash Ta Fames $5000. . . And again, no offense, his records do not out do DTF. Genuinely curious if anyone knows. Dash Ta Fame's stud fee hasn't been 5k for a while.
I just asked Darian Burt and she said it will be $7,500 for 2016.
Okay I misspoke about that one, but $4500 is still a lot of money, I'm still curious about ASOF. |
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 Location: Oklahoma | ASOF is Beautifull horse but at 4500 Id rather spend 1000 Less & Breed to Royal Quick Dash or 2500 or less to any of his Full Brothers!!! Separatist is only 300 more than ASOF & He has a really good record too... Color should be the Last choice in breeding horses!!! Id rather breed to Champions & Champion Producers that cost less money!!! I agree with the Right Trainers comment on Any Horse because a Bad trainer can Ruin a Good Horse & a Good trainer can make an OK Horse Better!!! Just My 2cents & Id Really like to have a few ASOF foals but Not at 4500!!! |
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    Location: Texas!! | I went ahead and booked to him at $4500...... My mare is by Leaving Memories out of a Beduino mare. I have loved all her babies so far!! |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | rebel racing - 2015-12-11 6:18 PM ASOF is Beautifull horse but at 4500 Id rather spend 1000 Less & Breed to Royal Quick Dash or 2500 or less to any of his Full Brothers!!! Separatist is only 300 more than ASOF & He has a really good record too... Color should be the Last choice in breeding horses!!! Id rather breed to Champions & Champion Producers that cost less money!!! I agree with the Right Trainers comment on Any Horse because a Bad trainer can Ruin a Good Horse & a Good trainer can make an OK Horse Better!!! Just My 2cents & Id Really like to have a few ASOF foals but Not at 4500!!!
Well thats all fine and dandy and those are all nice horses in their own right BUT, none of them have produced the barrel earnings ASOF has. That is why he is priced where he is. |
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      Location: California | ThreeCorners - 2015-12-11 6:11 PM rebel racing - 2015-12-11 6:18 PM ASOF is Beautifull horse but at 4500 Id rather spend 1000 Less & Breed to Royal Quick Dash or 2500 or less to any of his Full Brothers!!! Separatist is only 300 more than ASOF & He has a really good record too... Color should be the Last choice in breeding horses!!! Id rather breed to Champions & Champion Producers that cost less money!!! I agree with the Right Trainers comment on Any Horse because a Bad trainer can Ruin a Good Horse & a Good trainer can make an OK Horse Better!!! Just My 2cents & Id Really like to have a few ASOF foals but Not at 4500!!! Well thats all fine and dandy and those are all nice horses in their own right BUT, none of them have produced the barrel earnings ASOF has. That is why he is priced where he is.
You can't help but be curious though as to why it's that price-- not that he's not worth his weight in gold but a lot of horses have similar records or even better that are priced lower. Its not in any way shape or form meant as slander on the big roan. |
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I don't own a stallion and don't know all the ends-and-outs of pricing and marketing. I'm sure it also has to do with weeding out unproven mares. |
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                      Location: Here | NFM - 2015-12-11 9:10 PM I have noticed this year there is a huge separation between FWOTR, ASOF, Judge Cash, Blazin Jetolena, and other elite stud fees versus proven barrel stallions, but not so much proven as a sire. All of the above are at least $4,000. It had me wondering if they aren't pricing themselves too high and leave room for people to take a chance on the up-and-comers. Maybe I'm aging myself, but wasn't it just 2 years ago the elites were $2,500. I don't own a stallion and don't know all the ends-and-outs of pricing and marketing. I'm sure it also has to do with weeding out unproven mares.
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        Location: MD | ASOF's stud fee is being fueled by his offspring's sale prices. Those sale prices are being driven by their maternal sides. When mares like Pie Sky Promises and Go Royal Scarlet are on those pedigrees, they are going to sell high, just as we saw tonight. How many ASOF's have sold for huge money now as prospects? It would be kind of hard to argue with his stud fee, for sure. |
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      Location: California | WrapSnap - 2015-12-11 8:25 PM
ASOF's stud fee is being fueled by his offspring's sale prices. Those sale prices are being driven by their maternal sides. When mares like Pie Sky Promises and Go Royal Scarlet are on those pedigrees, they are going to sell high, just as we saw tonight. How many ASOF's have sold for huge money now as prospects? It would be kind of hard to argue with his stud fee, for sure.
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| WrapSnap - 2015-12-12 8:25 PM
ASOF's stud fee is being fueled by his offspring's sale prices. Those sale prices are being driven by their maternal sides. When mares like Pie Sky Promises and Go Royal Scarlet are on those pedigrees, they are going to sell high, just as we saw tonight. How many ASOF's have sold for huge money now as prospects? It would be kind of hard to argue with his stud fee, for sure.
You could breed those mares to anything and get a good price... A person off the street is not going to have a horse of that caliber so that's kind of a false market... im not sure I've seen any of his babies that are out of mares that don't have a big name do a lot.. I still wouldn't breed to him I'd buy one but that's me |
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| ASOF, FWOTR, Blazin Jetolena, DTF, etc. are all obviously doing something right or their books wouldn't fill so fast every year. As long as people are willing to pay high fees to them year after year, then why wouldn't the owners price them accordingly? That's why we have a free market system.
Yes, it sucks if they are something you want to breed to but can't afford. Suck it up. Life isn't fair.
I'm not sure how people can say they are priced high. These elite barrel stallions are still MUCH cheaper than any other discipline Look at the fees on Corona Cartel, First Down Dash, Mr Jess Perry, etc and then tell me how unfair a $4,500 stud fee is, lol!
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      Location: California | SKM - 2015-12-12 3:46 AM ASOF, FWOTR, Blazin Jetolena, DTF, etc. are all obviously doing something right or their books wouldn't fill so fast every year. As long as people are willing to pay high fees to them year after year, then why wouldn't the owners price them accordingly? That's why we have a free market system. Yes, it sucks if they are something you want to breed to but can't afford. Suck it up. Life isn't fair. I'm not sure how people can say they are priced high. These elite barrel stallions are still MUCH cheaper than any other discipline Look at the fees on Corona Cartel, First Down Dash, Mr Jess Perry, etc and then tell me how unfair a $4,500 stud fee is, lol!
In no way was anyone asking about the fee rude or disrespectful towards ASOF or company, so your attitude is completely uncalled for! And maybe it's not a lot of money for YOU but maybe it IS a lot of money to someone. God forbid someone learn more about a horse and ask questions. The BHW police will be sure to get on ya for it |
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    Location: Midwest | SKM - 2015-12-12 5:46 AM ASOF, FWOTR, Blazin Jetolena, DTF, etc. are all obviously doing something right or their books wouldn't fill so fast every year. As long as people are willing to pay high fees to them year after year, then why wouldn't the owners price them accordingly? That's why we have a free market system. Yes, it sucks if they are something you want to breed to but can't afford. Suck it up. Life isn't fair. I'm not sure how people can say they are priced high. These elite barrel stallions are still MUCH cheaper than any other discipline Look at the fees on Corona Cartel, First Down Dash, Mr Jess Perry, etc and then tell me how unfair a $4,500 stud fee is, lol!
Is the stark difference in stud fees between race and barrel studs due to the earning potential of the offspring in the different disciplines? (ie the higher possible earning potential of a race horse vs a barrel horse) |
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| *almost there* - 2015-12-12 8:05 AM
SKM - 2015-12-12 3:46 AM ASOF, FWOTR, Blazin Jetolena, DTF, etc. are all obviously doing something right or their books wouldn't fill so fast every year. As long as people are willing to pay high fees to them year after year, then why wouldn't the owners price them accordingly? That's why we have a free market system. Yes, it sucks if they are something you want to breed to but can't afford. Suck it up. Life isn't fair. I'm not sure how people can say they are priced high. These elite barrel stallions are still MUCH cheaper than any other discipline Look at the fees on Corona Cartel, First Down Dash, Mr Jess Perry, etc and then tell me how unfair a $4,500 stud fee is, lol!
In no way was anyone asking about the fee rude or disrespectful towards ASOF or company, so your attitude is completely uncalled for! And maybe it's not a lot of money for YOU but maybe it IS a lot of money to someone. God forbid someone learn more about a horse and ask questions. The BHW police will be sure to get on ya for it
To be honest, a $4,500 stud fee is out if my price range. But I certainly don't begrudge those that can afford it. Nor will I sit there and say that it's only great mares that are producing winners for him and the mediocre ones don't. That was basically said a few posts up. How is that comment not disrespectful?
As for my attitude, I actually wrote my comment and was giggling in my head. Also, when I comment it's usually in a business like mannet with no emotion. Your comment is proof once again that the written word can be taken however the person reading it wants it to come across and not necessarily what the writer had in mind. I've been here long enough not to be too worried about that anymore. |
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        Location: Oklahoma | *almost there* - 2015-12-11 8:15 PM
ThreeCorners - 2015-12-11 6:11 PM rebel racing - 2015-12-11 6:18 PM ASOF is Beautifull horse but at 4500 Id rather spend 1000 Less & Breed to Royal Quick Dash or 2500 or less to any of his Full Brothers!!! Separatist is only 300 more than ASOF & He has a really good record too... Color should be the Last choice in breeding horses!!! Id rather breed to Champions & Champion Producers that cost less money!!! I agree with the Right Trainers comment on Any Horse because a Bad trainer can Ruin a Good Horse & a Good trainer can make an OK Horse Better!!! Just My 2cents & Id Really like to have a few ASOF foals but Not at 4500!!! Well thats all fine and dandy and those are all nice horses in their own right BUT, none of them have produced the barrel earnings ASOF has. That is why he is priced where he is.
You can't help but be curious though as to why it's that price-- not that he's not worth his weight in gold but a lot of horses have similar records or even better that are priced lower. Its not in any way shape or form meant as slander on the big roan.
He just had a yearling sell for $100K at the BFA sale; he's had two recent NFR qualifiers (Worm owned by Trula Churchill, and Bling owned by Sarah Rose McDonald). I've only seen one Royal Quick Dash at the NFR ever (Cassidy Kruse's horse) and I've never seen one sell for $100K for a barrel horse.
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SKM - 2015-12-12 5:46 AM ASOF, FWOTR, Blazin Jetolena, DTF, etc. are all obviously doing something right or their books wouldn't fill so fast every year. As long as people are willing to pay high fees to them year after year, then why wouldn't the owners price them accordingly? That's why we have a free market system. Yes, it sucks if they are something you want to breed to but can't afford. Suck it up. Life isn't fair. I'm not sure how people can say they are priced high. These elite barrel stallions are still MUCH cheaper than any other discipline Look at the fees on Corona Cartel, First Down Dash, Mr Jess Perry, etc and then tell me how unfair a $4,500 stud fee is, lol!
Is the stark difference in stud fees between race and barrel studs due to the earning potential of the offspring in the different disciplines? (ie the higher possible earning potential of a race horse vs a barrel horse)
It could be. But the point still remains that elite barrel sires are still cheaper that the elites of other fields. Barrel racers are lucky in that respect. If some average Joe type person has their heart set on breeding to an elite stallion, coming up with $4,500 is a lot easier than something like $40,000.
Someone earlier mentioned Royal Quick Dash. At the height of his breeding career he was around $10,000. When his book started dropping, so did his stud fee. But with him being frozen semen only, by the time you pay all the costs to breed with it, are you really getting off any cheaper?
It appears that ASOF is headed in the direction of being able to sire both sons and daughters that produce. That really is hard to come by. He has some great options for sons to breed to, no doubt about that. |
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        Location: Oklahoma | barrelracr131 - 2015-12-12 9:15 AM
SKM - 2015-12-12 5:46 AM ASOF, FWOTR, Blazin Jetolena, DTF, etc. are all obviously doing something right or their books wouldn't fill so fast every year. As long as people are willing to pay high fees to them year after year, then why wouldn't the owners price them accordingly? That's why we have a free market system. Yes, it sucks if they are something you want to breed to but can't afford. Suck it up. Life isn't fair. I'm not sure how people can say they are priced high. These elite barrel stallions are still MUCH cheaper than any other discipline Look at the fees on Corona Cartel, First Down Dash, Mr Jess Perry, etc and then tell me how unfair a $4,500 stud fee is, lol!
Is the stark difference in stud fees between race and barrel studs due to the earning potential of the offspring in the different disciplines? (ie the higher possible earning potential of a race horse vs a barrel horse)
I think it's probably because the race horses are usually a tax deduction for the owner. A lot of barrel horse owners don't use them for tax deductions. Nothing to base that on, just purely speculation on my part. |
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    Location: Arizona | dianeguinn - 2015-12-13 8:58 AM *almost there* - 2015-12-11 8:15 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-12-11 6:11 PM rebel racing - 2015-12-11 6:18 PM ASOF is Beautifull horse but at 4500 Id rather spend 1000 Less & Breed to Royal Quick Dash or 2500 or less to any of his Full Brothers!!! Separatist is only 300 more than ASOF & He has a really good record too... Color should be the Last choice in breeding horses!!! Id rather breed to Champions & Champion Producers that cost less money!!! I agree with the Right Trainers comment on Any Horse because a Bad trainer can Ruin a Good Horse & a Good trainer can make an OK Horse Better!!! Just My 2cents & Id Really like to have a few ASOF foals but Not at 4500!!! Well thats all fine and dandy and those are all nice horses in their own right BUT, none of them have produced the barrel earnings ASOF has. That is why he is priced where he is. You can't help but be curious though as to why it's that price-- not that he's not worth his weight in gold but a lot of horses have similar records or even better that are priced lower. Its not in any way shape or form meant as slander on the big roan.He just had a yearling sell for $100K at the BFA sale; he's had two recent NFR qualifiers (Worm owned by Trula Churchill, and Bling owned by Sarah Rose McDonald ). I've only seen one Royal Quick Dash at the NFR ever (Cassidy Kruse's horse ) and I've never seen one sell for $100K for a barrel horse. ASOF has actually had 4 horses at the NFR now: Worm, Blue Moon Fling (BB) was used as a backup for Carlee Pierce in 2011, Streakin Easy April (Lolo) was also used by Carlee Pierce for all 10 rounds in 2014, and now Bling. When I did my 5 year review articles, ASOF was the youngest horse to even hit the leading NFR sire board. Yes, he is coming 17 YO but I think people are quick to forget how much longer it takes to prove a barrel horse sire. The only stallions that were ahead of him (2010 to now) were Dash Ta Fame, Frenchmans Guy, and Dr Nick Bar, all of whom are considerably older than him. Bling actually ties him with Dr Nick Bar. He's doing a lot right.
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    Location: Midwest | dianeguinn - 2015-12-12 10:02 AM barrelracr131 - 2015-12-12 9:15 AM SKM - 2015-12-12 5:46 AM ASOF, FWOTR, Blazin Jetolena, DTF, etc. are all obviously doing something right or their books wouldn't fill so fast every year. As long as people are willing to pay high fees to them year after year, then why wouldn't the owners price them accordingly? That's why we have a free market system. Yes, it sucks if they are something you want to breed to but can't afford. Suck it up. Life isn't fair. I'm not sure how people can say they are priced high. These elite barrel stallions are still MUCH cheaper than any other discipline Look at the fees on Corona Cartel, First Down Dash, Mr Jess Perry, etc and then tell me how unfair a $4,500 stud fee is, lol! Is the stark difference in stud fees between race and barrel studs due to the earning potential of the offspring in the different disciplines? (ie the higher possible earning potential of a race horse vs a barrel horse) I think it's probably because the race horses are usually a tax deduction for the owner. A lot of barrel horse owners don't use them for tax deductions. Nothing to base that on, just purely speculation on my part.
Thank you both, DG and SKM.
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         Location: Where I am happiest | dianeguinn - 2015-12-12 9:58 AM *almost there* - 2015-12-11 8:15 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-12-11 6:11 PM rebel racing - 2015-12-11 6:18 PM ASOF is Beautifull horse but at 4500 Id rather spend 1000 Less & Breed to Royal Quick Dash or 2500 or less to any of his Full Brothers!!! Separatist is only 300 more than ASOF & He has a really good record too... Color should be the Last choice in breeding horses!!! Id rather breed to Champions & Champion Producers that cost less money!!! I agree with the Right Trainers comment on Any Horse because a Bad trainer can Ruin a Good Horse & a Good trainer can make an OK Horse Better!!! Just My 2cents & Id Really like to have a few ASOF foals but Not at 4500!!! Well thats all fine and dandy and those are all nice horses in their own right BUT, none of them have produced the barrel earnings ASOF has. That is why he is priced where he is. You can't help but be curious though as to why it's that price-- not that he's not worth his weight in gold but a lot of horses have similar records or even better that are priced lower. Its not in any way shape or form meant as slander on the big roan. He just had a yearling sell for $100K at the BFA sale; he's had two recent NFR qualifiers (Worm owned by Trula Churchill, and Bling owned by Sarah Rose McDonald ). I've only seen one Royal Quick Dash at the NFR ever (Cassidy Kruse's horse ) and I've never seen one sell for $100K for a barrel horse.
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As for stallions that have produced at a reasonable fee, we are sending FIREWATER FAST semen from Brazil to the USA. He has produced futurity, derby and open winners on all types of mares in Europe and Brazil and his stud fee will only be $1000, and the number one stallion from Brazil will have semen available too for only $2500. |
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| I am anxiously awaiting my "Streak of Fling" - My husband paid the stud fee and other associated costs for my anniversary present. Should be here by May 1st.
I do not have a race bred mare with the type of pedigree that others have mentioned. I bred a little cow pony to see what I could get. She has produced winners (superiors) in multiple events, based on the stallions breeding/training and was a performer with over 100 AQHA points in Team Penning by the age of 5, when she severed her DDFT in the fence.
I am hoping for one just a hair faster than the gelding that I am running now. We will see Also waiting to see what color it will be - my luck it will be red, even though she has thrown color every other time.
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Sharp - 2015-12-12 6:45 PM Breed to him now. He will be the next number one living sire. As for stallions that have produced at a reasonable fee, we are sending FIREWATER FAST semen from Brazil to the USA. He has produced futurity, derby and open winners on all types of mares in Europe and Brazil and his stud fee will only be $1000, and the number one stallion from Brazil will have semen available too for only $2500.
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Tmain - 2015-12-12 6:57 PM I am anxiously awaiting my "Streak of Fling" - My husband paid the stud fee and other associated costs for my anniversary present. Should be here by May 1st. I do not have a race bred mare with the type of pedigree that others have mentioned. I bred a little cow pony to see what I could get. She has produced winners (superiors ) in multiple events, based on the stallions breeding/training and was a performer with over 100 AQHA points in Team Penning by the age of 5, when she severed her DDFT in the fence. I am hoping for one just a hair faster than the gelding that I am running now. We will see Also waiting to see what color it will be - my luck it will be red, even though she has thrown color every other time. Here she is http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smarty+egger
Well you should get a super nice baby from that cross!! |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-12-12 7:06 PM
Tmain - 2015-12-12 6:57 PM I am anxiously awaiting my "Streak of Fling" - My husband paid the stud fee and other associated costs for my anniversary present. Should be here by May 1st. I do not have a race bred mare with the type of pedigree that others have mentioned. I bred a little cow pony to see what I could get. She has produced winners (superiors ) in multiple events, based on the stallions breeding/training and was a performer with over 100 AQHA points in Team Penning by the age of 5, when she severed her DDFT in the fence. I am hoping for one just a hair faster than the gelding that I am running now. We will see Also waiting to see what color it will be - my luck it will be red, even though she has thrown color every other time. Here she is http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smarty+egger
Well you should get a super nice baby from that cross!!
Thanks so much - I really like the gelding that I have now that is out of her and by Duperier's stallion Johnny (he was leased by another party when the mare was bred and prior to their purchase.)- the whole reason I purchased a 19 year old broodmare for a lot of money in a depressed horse market. IF this colt works like the one I have - I will need Velcro.
Up here in the NE everything is mostly tiny inside pens. Most patterns are in the 13 second range. I need that cow!!! lol |
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     Location: Crowder, OK | I don't have an own son of ASOF but I have a grandson & he's just an amazing colt. Aftr him, I'd take anything with ASOF n the pedigree. As far as stud fees, usually what the babies r selling for means alot! I have two sons of FWOTR & I'm totally in love w/them. I think when u have babies that r bred from proven sires & mares to the job, u have alot bigger chance of success n the end, but that's just my opinion. ASOF offspring r winners & there's no denying it! Also, peeps @ all levels r winning on them, that means alot also. They Excell n rodeo, open, futurity, just everything. They should bring a big price.
Edited by Tinkerbell 2015-12-12 9:58 PM
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    Location: SP, Brazil | His name is EL SHADY ZORRERO, and his get are as good as DTF´s, he is number one and DTF is number 2 here in Brazil. |
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    Location: Up North | SKM - 2015-12-12 5:46 AM ASOF, FWOTR, Blazin Jetolena, DTF, etc. are all obviously doing something right or their books wouldn't fill so fast every year. As long as people are willing to pay high fees to them year after year, then why wouldn't the owners price them accordingly? That's why we have a free market system. Yes, it sucks if they are something you want to breed to but can't afford. Suck it up. Life isn't fair. I'm not sure how people can say they are priced high. These elite barrel stallions are still MUCH cheaper than any other discipline Look at the fees on Corona Cartel, First Down Dash, Mr Jess Perry, etc and then tell me how unfair a $4,500 stud fee is, lol!
I agree with you SKM. I could never afford their stud fees. Hence the reason I have saved for years and years. I bred my daughter of ASOF to Blazin Jetolena. She is due March 1, 2016. I am so excited!!! |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-12-10 1:05 PM
We bred a mare to fulton's jr stallion by ASOF last year. A Dash Ta Streak. He is and will be promoted correctly, he is in training with Jordon Briggs and will hit the arena soon. I was told he is exceptionally minded and that is evidenced by the video's and pics Jordon has posted of him. James Ranch where they both stand told me he is def. easier then ASOF, AND he is in some incentives and is on the list for FF. Plus he is out of a great DTF daughter that was reserve world BFA champ before she went to Brazil. Plus, the last reason why, is he is the most correct out of all of them. So he was/is the most logical and total package of the ASOF.
ASOF A Streak of Fame
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ASOF A Streak of Fling? |
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          Location: You never know where I will show up...... | I owned an ASOF mare, super talented, not at all hard to deal with. I sold her as a futurity prospect, and she did very well at the futurities this past year before she injured herself running.
I also bred one of my nice DTF daughters to him a couple years ago and sold the colt (a plain sorrel) on a contract @ a week of age, for more than 3X what the stud fee was. I think they are a very good investment.
Eventually I plan to purchase another ASOF mare to run for myself, and put into our breeding program. I would also not hesitate to breed for another one someday even with the higher stud fee. If the foal isn't what I want, they are easy to move.
Edited by rockinas 2015-12-13 3:55 PM
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                      Location: Here | I was really sad when I didn't get a asof out of our FG mare. But We will next year!! And I have two more besides that one What a FUN year next year I can't wait |
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| TheOldGrayMare - 2015-12-11 11:22 AM I have an ASOF stud colt out of the great Firewater Fiesta at my house right now. Super sweet, super smart. I really like him!
I imagine!! Whats not to like :) |
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          Location: You never know where I will show up...... | SG. - 2015-12-13 5:40 PM I was really sad when I didn't get a asof out of our FG mare. But We will next year!!
And I have two more besides that one
What a FUN year next year I can't wait
I am just going to shop at your house for one next year. |
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