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Location: MN | am I crazy to think that my truck will pull a gooseneck trailer? It is a Lariat f150 short box. Isn't there some sort of extension to put on the neck of the trailer? |
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| Depends on the motor and the gooseneck.
I've seen it done. I've also really hard them work HARD to take off.
I had a 2004 5.4L and I wouldn't have done it. I've heard the newer engines are a different story.
I'm also a firm believer in being over trucked in case of the worst. |
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Location: MN | I have an 04 with a 5.4L, an it's a 3H Exiss GN |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | It would pull it but stopping is another story. You should check the rating on the trailer. |
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Location: North Dakota | I pull a 3H GN Exiss with a weekend package with a 2012 F150 truck. My truck is rated to pull 11,300 pounds and my trailer empty weighs 6500 pounds. It pulls and stops just fine. I only haul one horse though.
My boyfriend says your year of truck is not rated to pull that much, I wouldn't do it.
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Location: West Texas | You can pull it but I personally think a bigger truck would be more appropriate. The newer ones can do it, but in reality much pulling would be better served by a 3/4 ton. If it's not very far, not too often, it will be ok. I knew some that pulled a fully loaded 3 horse steel trailer a lot. The truck pulled it, but it really wears out a 1/2 ton. Think brakes and suspension.
I would add super springs to tow vehicle if you decide to. You will need to be a bit more careful as well. Make sure you have LT tires and put enough air pressure in them. |
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Location: Texas | I honestly wouldn't risk it. With the way people drive you need to be able to stop on a dime if need be and I don't see that happening with this truck/trailer combo, only saying that because I've been there and would never do it again! |
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Location: Florida.. | I personally dont think a f150 short box has enough stop in it for a 3 horse gooseneck.. safely.. |
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| snoopy - 2015-12-13 5:51 PM
I have an 04 with a 5.4L, an it's a 3H Exiss GN
No. My '04 struggled with 2 horses in my Titan BP at certain times.
As a side note as word - how many miles? I got to about 160k and it got bad quick. Started misfiring when stopping with a trailer, eventually threw a camshaft sensor code so we replaced those. Then it started dying at idle. Then it started misfiring again... Sold that sucked as quick as i could. Don't get me wrong I got almost 100k really solid miles out of it, but when it got bad it got bad fast. Our mechanic would work on mine privately as a friend, but the shop owner he worked for declined to even work on one that came in around the same time, said by the time you get done with the camshaft and timing chains you've usually invested the value of the truck. |
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| Gal at my barn pulls her 3h gn with her F150 and she does have the extension to help with the gooseneck. She hauls 1 horse, 2 on occasion and has no issues. |
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Location: Midwest | Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
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Location: Kansas | Yep, you're gonna need more muscle.
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Location: North Dakota | snoopy - 2015-12-13 5:17 PM am I crazy to think that my truck will pull a gooseneck trailer? It is a Lariat f150 short box. Isn't there some sort of extension to put on the neck of the trailer?
Depends what's in your gooseneck. Is it just a dressing room or is living quarters? If there are living quarters I wouldn't do it.
How long? 2 horse? 3 horse? 4 horse?
Do you haul in flat areas? Hills? Mountains?
For a couple years, I pulled my 3-horse slant Exiss gooseneck trailer with hubby's GMC Sierra 1500. And most of the time, I was only hauling 2 horses. According to a lot of the dealerships, that model of pickup had one of the SHORTEST boxes on the market. We got a 6" extender to use with the gooseneck ball, and that made a world of difference. I actually didn't have any trouble moving around in tight spaces, but I did keep a close watch on my back window.
Was it ideal? Nope. When it was windy, you bet I would be going slower than the speed limit. I was mindful of the fact that I probably should have a bigger truck. Luckily, I live in a pretty flat area so I didn't have to worry with mountains and such. I made do until we could afford to get a second stronger pickup.
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Location: Northern MN | We pull a Exiss 3 H Gooseneck with a 2015 Chevy 4 door truck with the 5.3. We don't have any issues. Before the 2015 we used a 2001 Chevy xtended cab for ten years with no issues. You just have to learn to adapt to what you have. |
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Location: MN | it has a weekender package in it, all aluminum Exiss, I usually haul 1 horse, locally 2, just to keep my other horse company. I live in MN so there aren't HUGE hills but some. I pulled a 5000# BP and it pulled fine, I would think an all aluminum one where the weight is distributed evenly in the bed would pull a whole lot easier than a steel BP. |
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Location: MN | it has a weekender package in it, all aluminum Exiss, I usually haul 1 horse, locally 2, just to keep my other horse company. I live in MN so there aren't HUGE hills but some. I pulled a 5000# BP and it pulled fine, I would think an all aluminum one where the weight is distributed evenly in the bed would pull a whole lot easier than a steel BP. |
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| snoopy - 2015-12-14 9:57 AM
it has a weekender package in it, all aluminum Exiss, I usually haul 1 horse, locally 2, just to keep my other horse company. I live in MN so there aren't HUGE hills but some. I pulled a 5000# BP and it pulled fine, I would think an all aluminum one where the weight is distributed evenly in the bed would pull a whole lot easier than a steel BP.
Since it has a weekender, I would say no.
You will be a danger to yourself and to everyone else on the road.
The empty trailer weight really isn't a problem, it is all the stuff you put into it. Yes there is less weight on the truck 25% less, but you still have more weight and force pushing you when you try to stop! or when the wind blows you over.
Water, for horses and person, this is extremely heavy
Clothes, dishes, etc get heavy fast
Horse tack, blankets, saddles, bridles (we always carry spares) this can easily add up
Hay, feed, buckets, etc |
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Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | My old 2003 F250 had the 5.4 in it. Hauled my trailer fine and I loaded it with everything but the kitchen sink! I hauled 2-3 horses and it was a Trails west steel 3 horse gooseneck. Only thing you would want to do is get helper springs. Make sure your brakes work well also. |
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Location: North Dakota | snoopy - 2015-12-14 9:57 AM it has a weekender package in it, all aluminum Exiss, I usually haul 1 horse, locally 2, just to keep my other horse company. I live in MN so there aren't HUGE hills but some. I pulled a 5000# BP and it pulled fine, I would think an all aluminum one where the weight is distributed evenly in the bed would pull a whole lot easier than a steel BP.
I agree with Cheryl. With the weekender package, I would get a stronger pickup. IMO. You add a lot of weight to the trailer with the weekender package.
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Location: The edge of no where | You probably CAN do it, personally I wouldn't tho. Not only will you have a lot of wear and tear on a half ton from pulling a trailer this size.....but I'd want the stopping power from a 3/4 ton. I guess for really short distances, it would be ok. There's idiots that will pull out right in front of you everywhere. |
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Location: N Texas | Can you? Yes.
Should you? No. |
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Location: N Texas | whohasaplan - 2015-12-14 10:56 AM
My old 2003 F250 had the 5.4 in it. Hauled my trailer fine and I loaded it with everything but the kitchen sink! I hauled 2-3 horses and it was a Trails west steel 3 horse gooseneck. Only thing you would want to do is get helper springs. Make sure your brakes work well also.
BIG difference between your F250 and her F150. If she had a F250, I'd say go for it! |
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Location: KS | OhMax - 2015-12-13 11:08 PM
snoopy - 2015-12-13 5:51 PM
I have an 04 with a 5.4L, an it's a 3H Exiss GN
No. My '04 struggled with 2 horses in my Titan BP at certain times.
As a side note as word - how many miles? I got to about 160k and it got bad quick. Started misfiring when stopping with a trailer, eventually threw a camshaft sensor code so we replaced those. Then it started dying at idle. Then it started misfiring again... Sold that sucked as quick as i could. Don't get me wrong I got almost 100k really solid miles out of it, but when it got bad it got bad fast. Our mechanic would work on mine privately as a friend, but the shop owner he worked for declined to even work on one that came in around the same time, said by the time you get done with the camshaft and timing chains you've usually invested the value of the truck.
A GN trailer is going to pull better than a BP. My first year of college I pulled a 2 horse GN with tack (14ft?) with a 98 1/2 ton chevy. Was is ideal? No, but it worked for a couple years until I could afford to trade for a diesel. As far as pulling I always felt safe, it doesn't have the get up and go, but it worked fine. Your trailer however is longer and heavier than what I was pulling. Im not sure that I would want to pull anything more than a 2 horse with a half ton but it can be done, completely up to you.
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| Nope I would not do it... I won't pull my 2H Aluminum 3' short wall trailer with a 150/1500.. I'd rather have too much truck than not enough. |
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Location: That part of Texas | I have a 2006 King Ranch F-150 that I pull a 2 horse Ranch King gooseneck with. My truck has a 5.4L/V8 engine and a 5 1/2 foot box (short box). I stalked Cindy Hamilton's trailer dealership for years looking at this particular trailer to get it used which is unheard of because nobody trades them in (I know -- I stalked it for 4-5 years along with Trailer Horse World and this was the only one lol). I wanted it badly because it weighs 3,000 pounds, has a dressing room and is a gooseneck = the 3 things I wanted because I knew my truck could pull this particular trailer.
I don't have too many problems pulling but then again, I live in a pretty flat part of the world with occassional hills. I haven't had problems stopping either but I also had trailer brakes installed on my truck when I purchased the trailer so I have that as a back up. Because of the design of the trailer, I haven't had too many problems with the placement of the ball and worries about breaking out a back window. I'm actually more worried about scraping the back of my bed or bumping it underneath the trailer than breaking a window. Anytime I hook on, I have to take my tailgate off because it will not open flat up against the trailer (hits the spare tire) and there's practically no room to manuever underneath there to hook up lights, chains and trailer brake safety chains if you do not take it off.
If I could have afforded to buy a bigger truck, I would have but this setup meets my needs and works. It was one of the only trailers I was willing to buy because of it's weight and the combination of hauling/stopping that I knew my truck could probably handle. I put a lot of effort into getting this specific combination because I knew hauling with an F-150 would be tricky.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Red Raider - 2015-12-14 6:44 PM I have a 2006 King Ranch F-150 that I pull a 2 horse Ranch King gooseneck with. My truck has a 5.4L/V8 engine and a 5 1/2 foot box (short box). I stalked Cindy Hamilton's trailer dealership for years looking at this particular trailer to get it used which is unheard of because nobody trades them in (I know -- I stalked it for 4-5 years along with Trailer Horse World and this was the only one lol). I wanted it badly because it weighs 3,000 pounds, has a dressing room and is a gooseneck = the 3 things I wanted because I knew my truck could pull this particular trailer.
I don't have too many problems pulling but then again, I live in a pretty flat part of the world with occassional hills. I haven't had problems stopping either but I also had trailer brakes installed on my truck when I purchased the trailer so I have that as a back up. Because of the design of the trailer, I haven't had too many problems with the placement of the ball and worries about breaking out a back window. I'm actually more worried about scraping the back of my bed or bumping it underneath the trailer than breaking a window. Anytime I hook on, I have to take my tailgate off because it will not open flat up against the trailer (hits the spare tire) and there's practically no room to manuever underneath there to hook up lights, chains and trailer brake safety chains if you do not take it off.
If I could have afforded to buy a bigger truck, I would have but this setup meets my needs and works. It was one of the only trailers I was willing to buy because of it's weight and the combination of hauling/stopping that I knew my truck could probably handle. I put a lot of effort into getting this specific combination because I knew hauling with an F-150 would be tricky.
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Location: MN | r_beau - 2015-12-14 8:46 AM
snoopy - 2015-12-13 5:17 PM am I crazy to think that my truck will pull a gooseneck trailer? It is a Lariat f150 short box. Isn't there some sort of extension to put on the neck of the trailer?
Depends what's in your gooseneck. Is it just a dressing room or is living quarters? If there are living quarters I wouldn't do it.
How long? 2 horse? 3 horse? 4 horse?
Do you haul in flat areas? Hills? Mountains?
For a couple years, I pulled my 3-horse slant Exiss gooseneck trailer with hubby's GMC Sierra 1500. And most of the time, I was only hauling 2 horses. According to a lot of the dealerships, that model of pickup had one of the SHORTEST boxes on the market. We got a 6" extender to use with the gooseneck ball, and that made a world of difference. I actually didn't have any trouble moving around in tight spaces, but I did keep a close watch on my back window.
Was it ideal? Nope. When it was windy, you bet I would be going slower than the speed limit. I was mindful of the fact that I probably should have a bigger truck. Luckily, I live in a pretty flat area so I didn't have to worry with mountains and such. I made do until we could afford to get a second stronger pickup.
so what is the difference in having a ball extension like this? or having the extension you need to put into the gooseneck part of the trailer? |
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Location: North Dakota | snoopy - 2015-12-15 7:50 AM r_beau - 2015-12-14 8:46 AM snoopy - 2015-12-13 5:17 PM am I crazy to think that my truck will pull a gooseneck trailer? It is a Lariat f150 short box. Isn't there some sort of extension to put on the neck of the trailer? Depends what's in your gooseneck. Is it just a dressing room or is living quarters? If there are living quarters I wouldn't do it.
How long? 2 horse? 3 horse? 4 horse?
Do you haul in flat areas? Hills? Mountains?
For a couple years, I pulled my 3-horse slant Exiss gooseneck trailer with hubby's GMC Sierra 1500. And most of the time, I was only hauling 2 horses. According to a lot of the dealerships, that model of pickup had one of the SHORTEST boxes on the market. We got a 6" extender to use with the gooseneck ball, and that made a world of difference. I actually didn't have any trouble moving around in tight spaces, but I did keep a close watch on my back window.
Was it ideal? Nope. When it was windy, you bet I would be going slower than the speed limit. I was mindful of the fact that I probably should have a bigger truck. Luckily, I live in a pretty flat area so I didn't have to worry with mountains and such. I made do until we could afford to get a second stronger pickup.
so what is the difference in having a ball extension like this? or having the extension you need to put into the gooseneck part of the trailer?
With the SQUARE nose on the Exiss trailer, along with the SHORT box on the pickup, the extender ball gave me 6 more inches to "play with". When making tight turns (especially backing up), you have to be careful that the gooseneck portion does not hit the back window on the pickup.
If I didn't have the 6" extendor, I would have had problems. It made a world of difference.
Still, look at how close the front of my trailer was to the back window on the pickup. I always paid super close attention, like when backing in a 90 degree angle.
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Anyone pull a gooseneck with an F150 4 door?