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  Snake Charmer
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Location: Texas | This mare somehow managed to get her leg hung in between the stall door, and the stall wall, all 1/2" of it, and ended up pulling her foot off. The leg was not broken, just pulled off. When I ran out to help the hoof was on the outside of the stall, wedged up against the latch. We think she probably got cast in her stall and did this trying to get up. Needless to say she was put down. Sadly she belonged to a young girl.
Even the vet said he'd never seen anything like it. So sad!
Edited by acheela 2015-12-22 3:07 PM
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| I don't see a picture but I'm so sorry! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Please dont post pictures of this... |
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| I can't see a picture - but have had this happen before. Young mare got her foot between the block foundation and tin side of a run in shelter. When she pulled the leg out it basically scalped the hoof off and left the bone and all the remaining tissue intact. We cast the foot and gave pain support - The vet felt that if she would eat and not develop laminitis we could possibly make her pasture sound. She finally could not tolerate the pain and we humanely put her down on day 3. She had been eating and drinking up to this point.
We found out that she had actually fractured that ankle as a weanling and had pins placed there for repair. Apparently that affected the blood flow to the hoof - The cut would have been manageable- we found the hoof.
Now I vet check everything - because who would have though a weanling would have had a fracture surgically repaired.
Prayers for the owner- as it is very frightening to see the aftermath. |
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| How awful, so,sorry |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Call me morbid, but I'd be interested in seeing it. I've never heard of anything like that. Sending prayers for the little girl. |
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Location: That part of Texas | This reminds me of what happened to Fallon Taylor's horse Chuck Taylor when he got hurt in a barbed wire fence, practically pulled his hoof off and they went through a long process of trying to bring him back. I can't find the story on Youtube but it was interesting all of the things she did to give him the best shot at any meaningful recovery. |
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Location: North Dakota | Oh my goodness. How horrible. Makes it even worse it's right before Christmas.
I must be morbid too. I'm kind of medically interested to see it; especially since the vet said they've never seen anything like it.
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The Advice Guru
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| I have a mare who sloughed off both feet due to founder, feet do grow back.
I would be worried about collateral ligaments
Also you need to harden up the lamania, my vet did this by applying 1% iodine at the beginning! then gradually increased to 5%.
A horse can walk on hard lamania.
If you don't already get soft rides, you really need to protect the other foot as with the weight redistribution she is at a risk of foundering on the good foot.
If you want you can message me, and I can go into more depth on what we did and continue to do.
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Location: Texas | cheryl makofka - 2015-12-22 3:52 PM
I have a mare who sloughed off both feet due to founder, feet do grow back.
I would be worried about collateral ligaments
Also you need to harden up the lamania, my vet did this by applying 1% iodine at the beginning! then gradually increased to 5%.
A horse can walk on hard lamania.
If you don't already get soft rides, you really need to protect the other foot as with the weight redistribution she is at a risk of foundering on the good foot.
If you want you can message me, and I can go into more depth on what we did and continue to do.
At the bottom of the post the OP stated the horse was put down.
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Snake Charmer
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Location: Texas | My phone wouldn't let me post pics, but if you would like pics you can pm me. |
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Snake Charmer
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Location: Texas | No,not here was no saving this horse. The entire lower portion of her leg, starting at the ankle, was pulled off the cannon bone. The bone was through the skin. There was no was this horse could have been saved. |
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Snake Charmer
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Location: Texas | I'm sorry, I must not have been clear. The hoof wasn't pulled off, the entire portion of her leg from the ankle down was dislocated and pulled away from the cannon bone. The leg was degloved to the knee. The leg was literally mutilated.
Edited by acheela 2015-12-22 7:02 PM
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Location: California | Wow... all I can say to the photos I just saw. That poor animal and poor girl who had to deal with that. |
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| I don't know why but I have thought of this happening. My mom has a made that likes to paw and she has had both feet cut within 4 months of each other. She was out in the pasture, but we brought her up so she would quit cutting herself. I have no idea where she keeps doing it, but the others never have a problem. *knock on wood* I'm scared one day I'll go out and she will have cut her foot off. She's in a run in lot so maybe now she will stay out of trouble.
To the op, I'm sorry. It would be very hard to deal with this situation. I'm going to send prayers your way and again I'm sorry about your horse. |
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Snake Charmer
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Location: Texas | Thank you for the prayers, but this, thankfully, was not my horse. |
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Location: California | Okay here are the photos... be prepared
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Serious Snap Trapper
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Pictures were very eye opening to say the least. Hard to imagine such an injury. |
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Location: Alberta Canada | O my, prayers for the little girl!! |
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Location: Texas | It's so hard for me to wrap my head around the way horses panic.. That must be so awful to get scared and panicky to the point where you rip your own foot/leg off. Poor horse. And prayers for the sweet girl that lost her horse |
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| i just hope you put her down quickly after the injury. i can't even imagine the pain she must have been in. |
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Location: Phoenix | That is so awful. Omgosh so sorry for all parties involved. :( |
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Snake Charmer
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Location: Texas | scared of sharks - 2015-12-22 10:43 PM i just hope you put her down quickly after the injury. i can't even imagine the pain she must have been in. This was not my horse, but yes, the vet was called immediately when I got there and she was put down quickly. The lady that was supposed to be caring for her had been out there for three hours and didn't pay enough attention to see the mare was in trouble. This same lady took pictures of my horse with his blanket wrapped around his throat, and left him like that for 8 hours while i was at work. She told me she didn't have time to pull the blanket off over his head. It would have taken her all of 10 seconds.
Edited by acheela 2015-12-23 12:04 AM
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| The most common thing I have seen is where there are no 4x8 sheets of plywood kick boards on the interior walls of stalls of metal buildings.
Horses can kick, paw or rollover against the wall and jam a foot/hoof/half a leg between two sheets of metal siding and just shuck the muscle and hoof off by jerking the leg back thru the overlayed metal sheets ...
My advice to everyone building a barn or run in shed to use common sense and have the bottom runner and the first sidewall runner to be 4ft apart. This makes it so easy to come in and screw the 4x8 sheets of 3/4 inch plywood down the walls to protect a horse from the above.
Whether it be metal or wood runners use deck screws which are weather proof and will not work out to slash your horses when they find a nail head to rub on .. Hammering is work where screwing the kick boards on is fun ...
Many years ago I lost a colt by Mr Diamond Dude out of a Peppy San mare to a 30 ft section of the bottom wire that was grown into trees of an old old fence line we had missed. Colt evidently came running thru the woods off the horse trail and slashed off his hoof and ankle. It took me a week to find the 30 ft wire hidden by leaves ... it almost tripped me ... otherwise I would never have found it.
As the old saying goes .. If a horse can find a way to hurt itself .... they will. Especially if they are your pride and joy.
I am amazed at no injuries to junkyard horses with all the old cars, trucks farm equipment strewn around. I pointed to a weanling at a friends place that was tight wire walking the frame over a set of 16 ft disks ... his reply ... Aww she does that all the time ... if it had been mine -------- you know the rest of that statement ... lol ..
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Miracle in the Making
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| i am not goning to look at the pictures thanks for the warning but why would you post pictures? how
it seems to me people don.t use commom sense |
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Location: Midwest | I thought the pictures are interesting and a good reminder to keep horse areas as safe as possible. That being said, accidents can still happen. I am so sorry for their loss. I'm sure the owner is so broken hearted. |
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Location: Kansas | HOLY EFF!!!! There goes my breakfast.
what a terrible terrible thing, praying for the girl and her family
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Serious Snap Trapper
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | I also found them interesting. But not only that, we all need to know the dangers lurking in a seemingly safe place. Bad things happen, and we need to know what needs done in a state of emergency and panic. I think this is an awful lesson learned. But, as per the OP, my horse would no longer be at a barn that the owner is so careless. |
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Location: White Mountains of AZ | ~BINGO~ - 2015-12-22 3:07 PM
Call me morbid, but I'd be interested in seeing it. I've never heard of anything like that. Sending prayers for the little girl.
I'm the same way.... |
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Serious Snap Trapper
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | QH<3er - 2015-12-23 8:47 AM
~BINGO~ - 2015-12-22 3:07 PM
Call me morbid, but I'd be interested in seeing it. I've never heard of anything like that. Sending prayers for the little girl.
I'm the same way....
Lol! I grew up being fascinated with ER and Crime scene investigative stuff. I don't get squeamish easily. However, I'm sure it'd be a different story if it was my own horse. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | vjls - 2015-12-23 8:11 AM i am not goning to look at the pictures thanks for the warning but why would you post pictures? how
it seems to me people don.t use commom sense
Ditto to what was said here^^^ I could never look at these pictures. I have seen my fair share of accidents being a horse owner..  |
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Location: KS | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2d/86/c1/2d86c191c8c4c4663...
Could this have been possible? |
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Location: North Dakota | vjls - 2015-12-23 8:11 AM i am not goning to look at the pictures thanks for the warning but why would you post pictures? how
it seems to me people don.t use commom sense
I guess if you have no interest in seeing the pictures, then don't read the post? That would be common sense to me.
Yes this is a tragic and absolutely horrific injury and I feel so badly for the owners; but why is this graphic picture any different than other graphic injuries that are posted and discussed?
Some of us have interests, medically. I am amazed at how an injury liike this could even occur. The pictures, although horrific, are fasinating to me.
If you don't share an interest, that's completely fine, of course. Not everyone will. But I don't really think it's necessary to make the rest of us feel like "bad people" for wanting to see the pictures, or to make the OP feel bad for posting them.
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Location: Phoenix | ~BINGO~ - 2015-12-23 6:31 AM
I also found them interesting. But not only that, we all need to know the dangers lurking in a seemingly safe place. Bad things happen, and we need to know what needs done in a state of emergency and panic. I think this is an awful lesson learned. But, as per the OP, my horse would no longer be at a barn that the owner is so careless.
Um yes to the barn owner statement!! |
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Location: Arkansas | So so sorry this happened. Prayers for the little girl |
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Snake Charmer
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Location: Texas | Thank you guys for the prayers. I know they help. It was just such a freak thing. This poor horse was in what would be considered a VERY safe stall. Everything had to have happened just right. The chances are astronomical something like this would have happened. Like another poster said, bad things can happen under the best of circumstances.
The he person who was doing nothing to help was NOT the barn owner, but a renter who was in charge of seeing to this mare. I would not let her take care of anything alive, she has no sense. |
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Snake Charmer
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Location: Texas | I don't think the owners of the horse would have had the funds to do this, plus the mare was VERY shocky, and was close to death without putting her down. She had been hung up for quite awhile.
Edited by acheela 2015-12-23 6:45 PM
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Snake Charmer
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Location: Texas | vjls - 2015-12-23 8:11 AM i am not goning to look at the pictures thanks for the warning but why would you post pictures? how
it seems to me people don.t use commom sense
I posted pictures for several reasons.
People were asking to see to see them
as a reminder to make sure your horse is in the safest environment possible
freak things can happen under the best of circumstances
dont hire an idiot to take care of your horse that freaks and freezes under an emergency situation
there was a warning on the title about the pictures, so maybe you should go hide your head in the sand and pretend nothing like this ever happens. |
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| acheela - 2015-12-23 6:49 PM
vjls - 2015-12-23 8:11 AM i am not goning to look at the pictures thanks for the warning but why would you post pictures? how
it seems to me people don.t use commom sense
I posted pictures for several reasons.
People were asking to see to see them
as a reminder to make sure your horse is in the safest environment possible
freak things can happen under the best of circumstances
dont hire an idiot to take care of your horse that freaks and freezes under an emergency situation
there was a warning on the title about the pictures, so maybe you should go hide your head in the sand and pretend nothing like this ever happens.
Thank you for posting - it is really a great reminder. Very sorry for the horse but for those of us more medically inclined like me, I found the pictures very interesting. Merry Christmas! |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | There was NOTHING wrong with the OP posting photos. Nothing at all. The title warned of graphic pictures. So shame on anyone for casting negative comments to the OP for posting them.
I think it's good to post them. It is very eye opening to people who have not been exposed to the strength of these horses.
Panic could have caused the horse to do this, but also just the pure weight of the horse pulling back could do it. I am very sorry this had to happen at all. |
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Miracle in the Making
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| r_beau - 2015-12-23 5:35 PM vjls - 2015-12-23 8:11 AM i am not goning to look at the pictures thanks for the warning but why would you post pictures? how
it seems to me people don.t use commom sense I guess if you have no interest in seeing the pictures, then don't read the post? That would be common sense to me.
Yes this is a tragic and absolutely horrific injury and I feel so badly for the owners; but why is this graphic picture any different than other graphic injuries that are posted and discussed?
Some of us have interests, medically. I am amazed at how an injury liike this could even occur. The pictures, although horrific, are fasinating to me.
If you don't share an interest, that's completely fine, of course. Not everyone will. But I don't really think it's necessary to make the rest of us feel like "bad people" for wanting to see the pictures, or to make the OP feel bad for posting them.
you must be really thin skinned i thanked her for the warning i don/t look at pictures like that.
people amaze me at the stupid things they do common sense would tell you to put plywood or think boards on metal
common sense would tell u notto tie a horse up to a board with his bridle or anthing else
i have seen my share of wrecks being at the track broken legs necks etc
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Miracle in the Making
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| acheela - 2015-12-23 7:49 PM vjls - 2015-12-23 8:11 AM i am not goning to look at the pictures thanks for the warning but why would you post pictures? how
it seems to me people don.t use commom sense I posted pictures for several reasons.
People were asking to see to see them
as a reminder to make sure your horse is in the safest environment possible
freak things can happen under the best of circumstances
dont hire an idiot to take care of your horse that freaks and freezes under an emergency situation
there was a warning on the title about the pictures, so maybe you should go hide your head in the sand and pretend nothing like this ever happens.
i guess u can not read either
i thank whomever for posting graphic picture i did not read or look at pictures i read the other post with looking shees people
i can not type but you all can not read either or maybe you do not know the meaning of thank you for the warning
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | vjls - 2015-12-23 9:22 PM acheela - 2015-12-23 7:49 PM vjls - 2015-12-23 8:11 AM i am not goning to look at the pictures thanks for the warning but why would you post pictures? how
it seems to me people don.t use commom sense I posted pictures for several reasons.
People were asking to see to see them
as a reminder to make sure your horse is in the safest environment possible
freak things can happen under the best of circumstances
dont hire an idiot to take care of your horse that freaks and freezes under an emergency situation
there was a warning on the title about the pictures, so maybe you should go hide your head in the sand and pretend nothing like this ever happens.
i thank whomever for posting graphic picture i did not read or look at pictures i read the other post with looking shees people
i can not type but you all can not read either or maybe you do not know the meaning of thank you for the warning
I didnt see the pictures either, when the op made the post she didnt post them for a pretty long time thank goodness and still have not gone back to the first page. And I saw that Vickie thanked the op for giving us softy's a warning and I thank her {OP} too. So please lighten up on Vickie she was not rude to any body. |
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